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A fun little fan made film from the suphero beatdown series. They did two endings to the film and, much like A Death in the Family back in the 80s, fans voted on who they think would win this fight. This is the alternative version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3tC8TPh9oQ

I love Super Power Beatdown.  Great series.  This is definitely a cool episode.  I like the ones where the vote is so close that they do alternate versions.  They also did Spider-Man VS Darth Maul and much, much earlier, Darth Vader VS Gandalf.

As I said in the write-up, this IS the alternate version.  ;D

I think the most recent one they did was Wolverine vs Wonder Woman. That was awesome.

Oh man, that particular one was brutal.

I dare say that was the most graphic one to date. Both the original ending and especially the alternate ending.

Yep, most recent one was Wolverine VS WW.  Two endings to that one too.  The next one will be Batman Beyond VS Spider-Man 2099.


I know, I read that.  I was just saying I like that.  They definitely go all out with these things.  Since the production values are so high, they're probably shooting them while the voting is still up, so they probably shoot both versions anyway.

There's an alternative ending to Wolvie vs Wonder Woman? Didn't realise that. Thanks for the heads up Jev. I'm off to go have a watch

Oh yeah, you definitely need to watch that one.

Just watched it. The ending was great. Reminded me of an issue of Lobo and also Ultimate Hulk vs Wolverine. All good stuff.

The Actress they got to play Wonder Woman was damn near dead on.  If you got her, the guy who does Batman on the Beat Down videos and Tyler Hoechlin as Superman....I would watch that film in a heart beat.

Then there is this....
(http://i.imgur.com/i8dbR3O.jpg) (http://imgur.com/i8dbR3O)

I find their casting is usually dead on.  They tend to cast a lot of stunt performers/martial artists, which is great.  No Hollywood casting, so you don't get too thin or too pretty heroes and villains, you get them as you'd expect them to look.  They're believable.

I always found it awesome that they use Jason David Franks to play the Green Ranger or White Ranger.

The premise behind this entire series is great and so simple, and something many many kids and comic book fans around the world have discussed for years. I am glad that they take the filming, acting and choreography so seriously. They do a lot on a small budget and as already mentioned, the casting is always on point.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the people they cast are professional cosplayers aren't they?

Some of them are. Some are stunt performers, some are martial artists, and some are actual celebrities, like Jason David Frank.

Who's he? (Not being sarcastic. I genuinely have never heard of him before. Did he star in a movie or tv show?)

He plays the White/Green Power Ranger on the MMPR (along with the Red Zeo Ranger and the Black Dino Thunder Ranger. They got him to reprise his role on SPBD.

Oh! Power Rangers. Never watched it, hence me not knowing him. Power Rangers came along at a time when I was a little old for shows like that but young enough to still enjoy geeky things. (Took me a while to figure out what you meant by MMPR and SPBD too!  ;D).

That's OK, I wouldn't know who he was if not for SPBD/Batinthesun.  ;)

Shouldn't it be SHBD and not SPBD?

Technically it didn't, as it was based on Japanese sentai shows, and MMPR used fight footage from a sentai show from I believe 1975 along with reshoots of non-fight scenes using a North American cast.

No, because the series is actually called Super Power Beat Down.

Oh. I thought it was Super Hero Beat Down. My bad. Thanks for the correct *thumbs up emoji*

I was referring to the American version of the show when it was broadcast in the UK.

No, it's Super Power, because not everybody in the videos is a Superhero.  In fact, they use characters from a number of sources, including movie franchises and video games.  Their very first episode actually pitted the 1966 Batmobile against the 1989 Batmobile.

I've seen loads of the videos but focussed more on the versus aspect and who was fighting than the actual name of the series.

Ah yes. The "Marisha Ray in a bikini washing the cars" episode. So glad they got away from that level of gratuitous shots.

Yeah, as a guy, I enjoyed those kinds of segments, but I think it took the overall level of the show down a bit.  I'm glad they got away from stuff like that.  Though, they were working on finding their footing and had way less subscribers and made way less videos back then, so maybe they felt stuff like that was necessary to keep people coming back.


They used to release the videos that were just the fights and not the full episodes, I don't think they still do.  That saved people who didn't want to watch the debate part from having to skip ahead.  ;)

I remember the Captain America vs Master Chief fight being particularly divisive (Cap won), even here, and I also remember successfully arguing why Cap would win that fight based on feats and skills.

MMPR was a bastardization of Kyōryū Sentai Zyuranger which first aired in 1992 but was the 16th sentai series.  The genre as a whole started in 1975.


Interesting, I assumed we were close in age but I was 10 when MMPR came out which was it's target audience.  

Yeah, the only episode I saw that had a debate was Spidey vs Darth Maul. I liked the debate and think they should release them as separate videos.

I was 14 or 15, so just outside the age demographic they were going for.

ah  makes sense

Amazing the difference those 4 or 5 years can make! Lol

If I was the right age I could see myself absolutely loving the show

While I was the right age I never saw it as a kid.  It came on Fox and I only got abc, cbs and nbc.  It was a source of a bit of contention for me because all my friends loved it but I had no idea what they were talking about..so you can imagine I was left out of a lot of conversations.  Fast forward and I didn't even make past 2 episodes..but I love the Japanese show.

You sound like Calon! LOL

But there were certain shows on tv when I was a kid that you just HAD to watch otherwise, like you, you'd end up left out and ostracised from the conversation at the school the next day.

Yea but that was back in the day if you didn't have cable you were screwed added that there was no streaming services (the internet didn't reach to where I lived till I was 19) so I was limited by means outside of my control :p

How many basic tv channels were there when you were a kid? In the UK there was 4. And satellite tv didn't really become a commercial thing until I was about 14 or 15. But, as we've already stated, it was a video rental generation!

for me personally there were 3 (as stated Abc, Cbs, Nbc)  But Fox was a "newer" broadcast station and since I lived so far into the country, and this was the time of antennas on houses, I was unable to get Fox.  For some reason all the cartoons and kids shows began moving to Fox, so by the time I was 13 I was unable to see any of the shows my friends watched as they all either lived within broadcast distance or had cable.

Did you never go round to their houses after school to watch cartoons together?

Nope, like I said, I lived so far out that I actually rarely went anywhere except on Fridays which was grocery day when we would rent movies for the weekends.  I honestly did not know kids saw each other outside of school until I was 11.

OH. This makes me sad. But, on the flip side you got to watch loads of movies which helped turned you into the awesome cinephile you are today.

And after school cartoon watching with friends was over-rated. Honestly, you didn't miss out on much. (Is my feeble attempt at deception comforting at all?  :D)

That one was too close to call for me.  Human enhanced by a serum vs human enhanced by cybernetics.  The biggest complaint among Halo fans is that they got Master Chief's abilities wrong.  For one thing, his ever present energy shield was missing.  Plus, there were complaints that he used a Covenant plasma grenade, which he wouldn't have without Covenant present to take one from, as the grenades in his arsenal are frag grenades.  Stuff like that ticks us nerds off.  ;)

Online Fan Boy rage at tiny mistakes of the things they love and are knowledgeable about? When has that EVER happened?  :D

Ah..not sad about it.   Like you said I learned to have a wider appreciation for film, I read a lot, I learned how to hunt and work with my hands, i spent free time roaming the woods with my siblings.  Sure I may have become a bit of an introvert but Im fine with it.....I think:P

Halo fan boys are nerds?  Huh...I always considered them Jock wannabe's with massive inferiority complexes.... :P (just be clear, good natured ribbing_

I'm mature enough to not rage about it, I was just disappointed.  Other nerds, on the other hand...

Of course, then there are the people who have no idea what they're talking about and post anyway.  For example, several people said the jump out of the plane with no parachute would have killed Cap, even though he does that in the comics and even in the films.

I've come across that a lot since the MCU started.  If your only exposure to these characters are the movies, thats fine.  But don't act like you know more about them than those of us who have lived and breathed these characters stories for Decades.

Those are the ones that gives nerds/geeks a bad name.

As great as it is to get new people joining the clandom of geek, it would be great if they did a little research on the history of the character before spouting off as though they are an expert. Mistakes happen, but posting as though they are the authority and then refusing to acknowledge their errors when it pointed out to them is immensely frustrating.

I think the problem nowadays is some people view the movies as the whole information they need on a character, completely disregarding the 40, 50, 60 years worth of comic history. And, in this day and age where a simple google search will give you all the information you need, that kind of thing is unforgivable.

And I won't stand for it I tells ya. Not this time. The line must be drawn here. This far and no further. And I'll take this all the way to the Supreme Court if necessary!!!!!! ;D :D

Not researching is a big pet peeve of mine.  Like you said mistakes happen but the utter lack of effort is galling sometimes...Like this gem...obviously made by someone that read a headline and never looked further and thought they made a clever joke....

(http://i.imgur.com/ggcky6e.jpg) (http://imgur.com/ggcky6e)

Do NOT even get me started.

I'm all for more female characters in superhero movies, but the calls for a female Thor in the movies totally disregards all the other great storylines that he has had since 1962. As a black guy I am all for more black superheroes on screen too, but that doesn't mean I think we need to bypass Peter Parker and go straight to Miles Morales.

This whole, "it's popular now and I want it in the movies NOW" selfish attitude of some (younger) people just speaks to their immaturity. But, anyway, how does being a mythical Norse God translate to being a Disney "Princess"? That logic does not resemble our Earth logic.

It was because of the erroneous belief that Thor was transformed into a woman.  Since he was Prince of Asgard, if he were to become a woman he would be a Princess and since Disney owns Marvel...Disney princess.  When this happened in the comics the articles about it all had misleading titles that lead people to believe Thor was turned into a woman.  If they had read the articles or comics they would have known Thor became Unworthy to wield the hammer and a Woman was now "Thor".  That started a whole other argument in that Thor was not a mantle...even though it clearly states on the Hammer it is a Mantle and has been carried by others in the comics (including Wonder Woman).  Which leads into the whole "people only familiar  with the movies" aspect.

I remember reading all about that when the character was introduced. It's like all the uproar that happened with the Captain America is actually an agent of Hydra. It's stuff like that which is why I tend to stay away from such articles on the internet. It's a waste of energy reading/getting involved with them. And life is too short for such negativity.