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Airk Tobruk
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« on: October 09, 2013, 02:05:24 AM »

Can anyone tell me where to find more information on unarmed martial arts used by the Jedi?
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2013, 02:14:25 AM »

Not a lot of anything I am afraid.


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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2013, 02:25:16 AM »

It's easy. They just flail a bit and then die or give up. It's hard to fight an opponent once your arms have been severed and cauterized by a lightsaber~

But really, looking in the movies it seems a bunch of the hand-to-hand combat is simple a few kicks a some cheap facial blows. I would imagine, just as lightsaber combat draws inspiration from real life swordplay in technique, that there would be martial arts formats similar to what we have in our modern world, coupled with the deadly powers of the Force.
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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2013, 02:36:48 AM »

There is this, although not specifically designated to Jedi/Sith.

Teräs Käsi

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ter%C3%A4s_K%C3%A4si
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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2013, 02:40:41 AM »

It was said somewhere that the Forms could be translated to hand to hand. Which in that case, I got dibs on Form V...  But there are a list of unarmed styles, Teras Kasi  being a principle one but most of their users outright hated the Jedi.

Interestingly enough, Teras Kasi is confirmed to be based on the real life Martial Art Silat.

Here is a list of other Martial Arts in the SW Universe: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Martial_arts
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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2013, 03:11:56 AM »

We'll I would say basics of a self judo would suit learning how to reach inside to an opponent also learning how to grapple would be useful the arm or the body itself.
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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2013, 04:42:14 AM »

Would learning unarmed combat be beneficial to a Jedi's combat skills? And if so, how?

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Care to elaborate Master Nonymous?
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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2013, 05:34:03 AM »

Jedi seem to be able to take some pretty bad falls, getting thrown across the room against a wall, etc, without taking much damage.  Which makes me wonder, would Force augmentation to a strike matter a lot more than the physical body power of the strike?  If so, then they could make a lot of fast, weak blows from unusual angles, because it was the Force in their blow that mattered, not the body power.  So fast, lighter, odd angles...maybe it would have a lot of elements that look like parts of praying mantis kung fu and wing chun.
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« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2013, 07:41:35 PM »

I know little about real martial arts, but my understanding is that a Jedi in a fight wants to end it quickly - not necessarily cleanly for the other side. In that case, would krav maga be a good style for Jedi?
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« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2013, 09:25:14 PM »

I know little about real martial arts, but my understanding is that a Jedi in a fight wants to end it quickly - not necessarily cleanly for the other side. In that case, would krav maga be a good style for Jedi?

This was/is my thoughts, though I'm no expert by any means.  The only downside to Krav, from a Jedi perspective, is that Krav is a relatively brutal martial art.  They specifically train groin shots, breaking knees/elbows/fingers, etc.  For this reason, I'd say it's more suited to the Sith.  Though having never officially trained in other arts, I've no idea if they also train these things, but I've never heard of it if they do. 
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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2013, 11:34:36 PM »

Better a broken knee than a fight to the death - or a knee sabered in two, perhaps.

But yes, while I can see problems with the detail of the style, it does seem like the maximum efficiency aspect of it would appeal to a lot of Jedi who'd just want a way of getting people out of their face while they're chasing down a target - especially if it could be done while maintaining cover as a non-Force user, which I imagine would be necessary on occasion.
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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2013, 12:28:00 AM »

jasond22:

I expect what you are thinking of would be like tai chi. seriously, go on youtube and look for tai chi masters fighting people, it is brilliant, small and even slow hits that let the fighter focus his chi (the Force) and send people flying while kriffing up the chi flow of his opponents.

Ulios:

I think form V could be well emulated with aikido, seing as there is one school (sub form) focused on redirecting your opponent (like Shien) and another, more advanced version in which you redirect your opponent, and then do serious damage (like Djem So)

just my 2 cents.
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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2013, 12:58:45 AM »

Ulios:

I think form V could be well emulated with aikido, seing as there is one school (sub form) focused on redirecting your opponent (like Shien) and another, more advanced version in which you redirect your opponent, and then do serious damage (like Djem So)

just my 2 cents.

Aikido, Jiu Jitsu (the style I was taught) and other joint manipulation forms work REALLY well.

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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2013, 01:39:44 AM »

Here's the problem. I dare anyone to come up with a martial art that would NOT be suitable.

I am working on breaking bare handed combat down like the 7 forms, but not using them. I just don't think they apply that well.
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« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2013, 05:26:30 AM »


I am working on breaking bare handed combat down like the 7 forms, but not using them. I just don't think they apply that well.


Could you elaborate on that point? Why don't you think they apply that well?
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