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This thread is mostly for questions about Star Wars that you cannot understand, or find an answer for.


One of them that I can't figure out stemmed from the fact that I just finished AOTC again. It is: How did Galen Erso design the Death Star when it was already designed in AOTC? The blueprints and technical specs were already there when you see the designs of Geonosis. Was he recruited at that time, and who recruited him?

Anybody have an answer for this?

I think he either had a part in the AOTC's incomplete designs already, or he just specifically designed the science of the weapon and core etc. The framework seen in AOTC was getting started, but they asked Galen to help because they were stuck in RO. Also, he knew they would be asking him to. There's more details eluded there. He'd been involved before RO and was forced to again.

Galen was old in the beginning scene of R1. The Imperial who finally found him (forgot his name) said he was a hard man to find, implying he stopped working for them a long time ago. So I'm guessing Galen was working for them back then, he would have been young. Then he stopped. The flaw in that theory is: would it take the Empire years to find him? Well, he may have said years in that scene, I don't remember it well.

Am I making any sense?

The Republic gained the plans from the Geonosians (both via Dooku and via a plea deal) and the bugs started to build the superweapon.  Supposedly the idea was to build this things to counter the one the Seperatists might be building (which was actually not happening since there was only one being built).   Erso was saved from Seperatist hands and introduced into a project to make use of his known weapons design skills.  After the Repubic fell, and the numbers of kyber crystals available increased by a large amount, Erso begam to question what he was working on.   Director Kreanic tried to go it would Erso but the weapon's test blew up the place they were testing.  The Director blamed pirates and rebels in an effort to get Erso to see his designs were needed in the Empire to make sure everyone was safe from these criminals.   Erso's wife found out the truth Erso took his family into hiding.   The Director attempted to continue the work, but the Geonosians rebelled.  They were exterminated, and the Death Star moved once it had a hyperdrive.  The Station itself was mostly completed, but the superweapon was a problem.  Erso was found and dragged back to the project, which still took ten or more years to finish.  Partly because Erso was dragging his feet, and also attempting to find a way to make the Death Star fragile in some way as to not be obvious to the Empire.  The Power Generator is very unstable and only need a good hit to blow the whole thing up.  That was Erso's doing.  I am not sure if he specifically put in the exhaust port for the purpose of hitting the core, or if that just happened to be the best way the Rebels could find on short notice.  Just that the core was fragile.  Probably overly so.

Thanks, that clears it up (I think).

So why does Boss Nass still have the crown thingy in ROTS if he is no longer the Boss? Bad writing again?

What makes you think Boss Nass is no longer leader of the Gungans in ROTS?

Because there is a different Boss in TCW.

Yes, Boss Lyonie, I think.

The crown may be something personal to him, or a ceremonial thing accorded to all Bosses (similar to the way ex-Presidents are all still addressed as President Whoever).

Or just that there was several years between ROTS and TCW, so... ;)

Is it possible there's more than one Gungan city and the other Boss is just another Boss? Boss Nass is like the Big Boss over all. I mean, they clearly have advanced transportation and an army. So why wouldn't there be other Gungan places?

Well, I thought this might be the case as well, but on Wookieepedia it says that Boss Nass stepped down from the possession sometime before the Clone Wars started. I guess the crown could've been something personal to him, but I don't think crowns usually stay with the last person who wore them.

What if it's not really a crown and he's just an eccentric Gungan who wears a funny hat?

Possibly, but Boss Lyoni wears on just like it.

I would suppose each Crown is unique to the Boss...meaning they have one made for each Boss and they continue to wear it after their rule is over as a Status Symbol.

That would make since.

Here is another one.

How did Captain Phasma survive STB? Because she is supposedly in The Last Jedi.

Well she had her helmet and armor on, so I imagine a comlink or other device once Solo and Finn (and especially Chewbacca) were gone.  That or she makes it her business to know all the codes on Starkiller Base and could unlock it after being dumped in.

Also it was suppose to take some time for Solo and company to get from where they were to where they started planting bombs, so there is time.

Maybe, I guess we'll see.

And also, I'm sure I'm not the only one with unanswerable SW questions, so if there are others, feel free to ask. Unless they pertain to the Sith or the Jedi, then you can ask them in those threads.

Where did the skin off of Luke's hand go? He had it at the end of ROTJ, but in TFA he doesn't.

It's a different hand. The old one had wires exposed. So, this is more than just the skin missing. Perhaps they just don't last forever. Perhaps it was cut off again. Anakin's first didn't have skin.

But Anakin's first hand did have skin... biological skin. The first mechanical one he got didn't, I thought that's why he wore the glove.

Yes, obviously.

And Luke's hand with artificial skin was damaged enough that he wore a glove. I'd imagine he had to get that one replaced at some point in 30 years. Perhaps the next film will address why he didn't get one with fake skin.

How long has the Jedi temple been on Coruscant?

From dialogue, at least 1000 years

Maz says she has seen evil take many forms. The Sith, the Empire, and the First Order. Does that mean that she was around when the Sith Empire was?

Disney sources say Maz and Snoke are over 1000 years old. It's possible Snoke is a true Sith, something else or one of the Lost Tribe. Maz may have seen the Sith before the Jedi thought they had wiped them out.

Ledgends says 5000+ years. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jedi_Temple

Canon says ~1000 years. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Imperial_Palace


I'm grumpy they made Maz older than Yoda.

Why, In a whole Galaxy filled with long lived species Yoda couldn't have been the oldest

How long was the Clone Wars? And how old is Obi-Wan in ANH?

Around 3 years and

55-57 years old. 

I was figuring it all out today, and stuff didn't work out. I don't remember what now.

He certainly doesn't look that young.

Do the clones still age twice as fast? Because in SWR they look about 60, which is about what they'd be if they still grew like that.

Obi-Wan's aging has been explained away as his living under harsh conditions.  I haven't found an exact source to say 100% for sure, but everything says  the clones age quicker

I can see the harsh conditions contributing somewhat to it, but 20 years seem like to much, even for that. I feel like there is more that I couldn't figure out, but I don't remember now. What about Anakin. Why was he able to train Ahsoka in TCW when he wasn't a Master? And it didn't even seem like he was Knighted until ROTS.

The movie that Begins the Clone Wars series showed the Masters thought having an Apprentice would make Anakin more responsible, in a way it did, but it also created another powerful headstrong Jedi.  Unclear at this point in canon to say when he was Knighted, but going consensus is he was Knighted after the Battle of Geonosis

So then was he already a Knight at the beginning of ROTS? Or was he still apprenticed to Obi-Wan, seeing as he did call him master there?

He was knighted in the Clone Wars (as opposed to The Clone Wars) cartoon, so c. 1/2 way between AOTC and ROTS.

Of course, how canonical that is... *shrug*

And, equally grey in terms of canonicity, but a Jedi didn't have to be a Master to take on a Padawan - in some cases, Knights became Masters by training a Padawan successfully. Obi-Wan is a case in point of a non-Master with a Padawan, albeit that his training of Anakin came about through an unusual circumstance.

As for Obi-Wan's age, Alec Guiness was 61/62 when filming ANH. Obi-Wan was living on his own, in pretty nasty conditions, probably venturing out at all hours and in all conditions to keep an eye on Luke (just a supposition on my part, but I imagine he could sense him through the Force) and probably got into a fair few scraps over the 20 years he was there. It'd add up.

Okay, makes since. I guess I need to watch ANH again.

I think Obi Wan was knighted at the end of Phantom Menace, as he had just faced a Sith and lived, which is one special exception to knighthood. A knight or master can take an apprentice. When Anakin became a knight, Obi would qualify as master. Anakin skipped youngling phase, going right for padawan without the padawan trials. He faced Dooku and lived. Anyone know if Anakin faced the knight trials? He wined about not being skipped to master.

The older Clone Wars cartoon (2003) has Anakin knighted during the first six months of the war after having faced just about everything the trails would have him face.  The thing he missed was "looking into the mirror" as they called it.  Which is basically what Luke did in "the Cave" with Yoda.   By then they needed more knights to lead the clones to fight the war.  So Skywalker was knighted and sent back out to war.  Not too long after that, they sent out Ahsoka to be his Padawan, in an effort to ground him better.  It sort of worked while she was there.  Ahsoka was also sent because they needed more Jedi for the war, and she was skilled enough to go, just needing a master.  Obi-wan might have been good for that, but they really wanted to make Anakin a better Jedi.

The creators of The Clone Wars (2008) more or less held that the basic events of Clone Wars (2003) happened for their purposes.  At least in some way.  It meant they didn't have to introduce Ventress or Grievous, and they kept part of the look from that cartoon when they did the 3D character animation.  This is very evident on Count Dooku for the first season.

I know, this is an old thread, but since I started it, and since it was started for people to ask questions about Star Wars that they do not know, I am going to bring it back.


So my question right now is, why does Luke's hand not have skin on it in TFA, when it still does at the end of ROTJ? Does anyone know the answer to this, or is it just another one of TFA's (many) issues?

Remember in ROTJ, on Tatooine, Luke's new hand suffered a laser blast from one of Jabba's skiff guards.  When he was heading back to see Yoda he covered it with a black glove.  The damage was quite severe, so the tissue may have died off or he had it removed...possible..just a working theory

Dunno why it would be considered an "issue"... you have to remember TFA was the first part of the story...dunno why  everyone expected so much explanation in the first chapter.   As to the hand,  he might just have never replaced the skin on it after ROTJ... with Luke we haven't seen anything yet on what he was actually up to after ROTJ other than the vague hints.  With TLJ getting closer I'm sure more hints are coming.  Heck, there is a new book coming out later this year that is a collection of the tall tales and legends surrounding Luke after ROTJ

I guess we will wait and see what happens in TLJ.

Robo limbs in books simply don't last forever. It doesn't have to be the same hand as in ROTJ. It doesn't have to mean he got it cut off again.

 Some are made with skin. Some are more functional without skin. I can't quite remember which character I'm thinking of from the books, but they had to choose between a more normal looking limb or a military limb with more combat ability.