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Just a place to discuss what you liked or disliked about the film, being free to mention spoilers.  Personally, I liked the film. A lot.  But something is gnawing at me about it.  But I cant place it.  There was a rather annoying lady behind me added to an ear infection though.  I may have to see it again to get a full feel of it.  The 2 things I can absolutely say I loved was the Thor scenes, especially his arrival in Wakanda, and of course Thanos.  Brolin and the Russo's did an awesome job bringing The Mad Titan to life. 

 So after some reading up on the events in this movie from the point of the comics and some different theories, I can see how the characters that turned to dust in the end may be coming back. I still have a problem with the fact that I even needed to look into this, since I have never needed to do that with any other Marvel movie. I still found the action fairly boring. I know this was a much more serious movie than any other MCU outings, but I didn't think the humor was nearly as good as a it has been in the past. Knowing that so far most people seem to like Infinity War, I now feel like I have a better understanding of what people think about me for liking TFA and TLJ, probably about the same thing as I think about people who like this movie. LOL  ;)
To be sure, I respect peoples opinions for disliking TFA and TLJ as much as I do for liking this movie. I will always be down to have a respectful discussion on differences of opinion regarding such things. I won't get into heated debates about them though. So if you enjoyed it, that's awesome. I won't judge people for that. I would still like to hear from people that know the comics better that could tell me what I should be expecting in the next films. And I still have high hopes for Deadpool 2, so I'm not abandoning hope for Marvel or Disney. That was just a knee jerk reaction.

The ending makes it obvious that most of it is going to be reversed. The who reason to bring in new Avengers like Black Panther, Dr. Strange and Spider-Man is to replace the older ones that we no will not be moving much more further. So to kill them off knowing that and that sequels of their movies are already green light gives it away.

Here is my thing with it. Many people complained about the casino part in TLJ, how it was a total waste of time because they didn't accomplish anything. Well the was pretty much this whole movie. Absolutely nothing was accomplished. I think they could have made this movie into 1/3 or half the movie and moved on to what happens next. Or even change up the end, kill a couple older Avengers and keep us guessing.

As far as the next Avengers movie, well Dr. Strange knows how it will end. He only saw one outcome where they win, he gave up the stone, and told Tony he had to. So of course that was the one way it had to go.

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I didn't stick around for the after credit scene. Is that where it was made obvious what was going to be reversed? I would love to hear a break down of it. Great point about the casino part in TLJ  tx_tuff. I couldn't articulate that yesterday, but that is exactly how I felt about the movie. Absolutely nothing was accomplished (except for Thanos) In my humble opinion. And thanks for starting this thread Darth Tepes. 

All movies are subjective. There is no "right" or "wrong" opinion.

However, you're wrong in this instance!  :D (only joking).

As for the next movie, I wouldn't put too much stock in what happens in the comics. The MCU is not a straight adaptation of the comics. It is influenced by the comics and some storylines have been used very loosely. For instance, in the Infinity Gauntlet comic run (on which Infinity War is kind of based), it's Silver Surfer who crashes into Dr Strange's place, not Hulk. Adam Warlock gets the team together to help defeat Thanos, but Adam Warlock (confirmed by James Gunn) won't appear until GotG 3.

Personally, I think eventually they get the gauntlet from Thanos (I think Nebula ultimately did that in the comics) and one of our heroes sacrifices themself using it to undo the snap.

Anyone who died before the snap (Loki, Heimdall, etc) are dead. Gamora may return as her essence could be trapped in the soul stone. Vision could return as I think Shuri may have copied/downloaded his programme and they put it into a new body.

The quantum realm, which is going to be introduced in Antman & the Wasp, will play some part in the story too (maybe the gauntlet is taken and left there for safety).

Also, Dr Strange may have placed a marker on the time stone to help the heroes undo everything.


As for the post credit scene. check out this quick video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk5NP09Pym0


Finally....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eITJLgd7el8

Nothing was accomplished..by the heroes. Because this wasn't their film.  This was meant to be Thanos' film...and he accomplished plenty. I've even heard from people that like TLJ ,that they hate the casino scene.

I agree. Thanos seemed to accomplish plenty. I didn't think about it as being Thanos' film. And although I didn't mind TLJ's casino scene, I can understand why people didn't like it. I will definitely see this again with a more open mind when it's out on disc.

Thanks again for every ones willingness to have a discussion about this rather than bashing me or other people. This is what this forum is all about to me. I'm even starting to slightly change my opinion of the film because of it.   

I think calling it a Thanos film is a cop out. So Marvel made 10 years of Super Hero films just to make a Thanos film?

But I will agree he did accomplish a lot. You could even think of it as a political film, he is trying to save the universe after all. I believe China is already do this with his many kids each family is allowed.

By me saying you know it will be reversed is because of all the new Avengers they killed off, since already have upcoming films green lite, so they will be back.

I think Thanos himself might just turn the clock back. But I haven't read any of the comics this story line is based on.

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It being Thanos' film their plan from the beginning.  Of course it will be reversed..after all "no one in comics stays dead except Uncle Ben" is pretty much a unwritten rule.  As for the comics its based off of, you'll get no help there since there are characters not involved that were instrumental (Adam Warlock) in Thanos defeat as well as Thanos' motivation being much different.  In the comic Thanos is in love with the physical embodiment of Death (Mistress Death) and to impress her he planned to kill half of the galaxy.  Fun Fact: Deadpool is also in love with Mistress Death and he and Thanos often quibble over it.

Loved it... Going to watch at the cinema at least once more!

Not worried about the shift from cannon... If they didn't we would already know what was going to happen!
My only minor complaint about the MCU is Hank Pam's influence or lack of it I should say. Maybe more of him to come in phase 4??? Adam Warlock will figure too I guess, if that's who they hinted at, at the end of Guardians 2.

They decided to skip over Hank Pym I'm sure because of the whole spouse abuse thing from the comics

The whole abuse claim is a bit thin, but I hear ya dude 😊

Have a getting Hank Pym will be more prominent in the next Avengers, or at least his tech.

Yeah I have read a few Deadpool comics with Death in them.

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By the way my favorite part of the movie was Spider-Man and the Iron Spider suit which I didn't think I wound like. And to me that was the only sad part of the movie when he turned to dust.

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I didn't get to watch the ending scenes (we had to leave before it got to them), but I did finish the movie. And while I am confused (not having read this Infinity Gauntlet arc), I do think everything will end up working out. We only have two movies to go in order to resolve what is happening before the next Avengers movie, so we will see how it works. One thing I do hope happens is that they at the very least kill one person in AoS. If they don't. . . Well, lets just say I won't be happy. It was sad to see Peter die, but because he already has a sequel to Homecoming planned, I know that he will somehow make it back alive.


EDIT: Also, where are Valkyrie and Sif?

What confused you? And this movie only has a few parts in common with thr actual Infinity Gautlet comic. So, I wouldn't worry if you haven't read it.

Check out the video I posted above. It explains all about the post credit scene and what it means for upcoming movies.

I believe it's during the scene between Rocket and Thor when they're heading off to meet giant Peter Dinklage that Thir confirms that Thanos killed half of the Asgardians that were on the ship.

It has been confirmed in interviews with Kevin Feige and the Russo brothers that Valkyrie  Korg and Miek are in escape ship with half the Asgardians.

As for Sif, real world answer is actress Jamie Alexander is currently starring in a tv show that is going quite well (o forget the name of it), and couldn't fit Ragnarol into her schedule. So that means Sif was not on Asgard during the events of Ragnarok, which allows Marvel the opporunity to bring the character back in future movies if they wish.

Mirroring Knox's question; What confused you? 



You think we're going to get female Loki?

Just confused in that this is the only MCU movie where things weren't resolved, and I don't understand (yet) how it's all going to work out. Not confused in that the movie was confusing. Movies rarely confuse me in that way.

Things WERE resolved. This movie has a very well defined beginning, middle and end. The only thing that differs is that the bad guy won.

Think about it this way, if things were different and the movie ended with one of the heroes sitting down, watching a sunset with a little smile on their face, we would all be happy. It's only because Thanos is the bad guy that some people think the movie is "unresolved".

Yes, we all know that there are sequels, new chapters and further instalments coming down the line. However, that has been the case with the previous 18 MCU movies.

I would say the bad guy "won". Emphasis on the quotes. I suspect one of 2 possible outcomes:

1) The remaining Avengers somehow manage to retrieve the gauntlet and use the power to reverse what was done.
2) Thanos realizes that he was wrong and reverses it himself.

Assuming that the end was "the end" would have been tantamount to watching ESB and thinking "This sucks. Han's dead. Luke's beat to hell, and clearly no match for Vader. The Rebellion is scattered and on the run. Who make a movie like this?"

I'd like to know...........was I the only one that sympathized with Thanos?

This movie has ended. Thanos achieved his goal. The next movie will obviously focus more on what the heroes and remaining half of the universe do to cope/try and reverse what was done.

Here are things we know will happen in the next movie:

1- Spiderman will be back (his sequel is already confirmed).
2- Captain Marvel will play a big role
3- The quantum realm we will see in Antman & the Wasp will factor in in some way
4- Antman will appear (Paul Rudd has already confirmed this)
5-  Black Widow will not die (Marvel have currently interview 32 directors to direct a solo Black Widow movie)

While Black Panther's movie made all the money, a sequel has not officially been greenlit yet. Chances are high he will return. Although, in the comics, Shuri has become Black Panther herself, so that's an option.

I wouldn't say "sympathised" per se, but definitely totally understood his motivations and reasonings. Didn't agree with him though. But that is one of the special things about this movie. Kevin Feige and the Russo brothers always said this movie will be from Thanos' perspective and they delivered. He is completely three dimensional and not at all brash and moustache twirly kind of evil. He was full of conviction that what he was doing was right and truly believed that the universe will thank him.

On a separate note, I will say that Ebony Maw (the Voldemort looking magical Black Order minion) is also one of the best MCU villains we've had. Would have loved to see more of him in the film. But alas, he went the way of the Xenomorph (in that really old movie).

I simply meant that that they aren't done dealing with Thanos. The "end" of a story typically happens when the villain has been thwarted. My gut tells me the closing events are not final, merely a heart-wrenching setback. But yes, Infinity War is over. I was a little surprised that he acquired the stones so quickly. Of course the more he acquired the more powerful he became, especially after he gained the Space Stone.

Plus, y'know.......it said Thanos will be back. ;D He quickly earned a place of respect in my book of great villains.

I was so happy. One can only take so many 2D villains. That scene when he acquired the Soul Stone.....ugh. Ripped my heart out. Not because Gamora died, but what Thanos went through in weighing the choice, and also her final realization that he truly did love her.

I also chimed up with a victorious (yet not overly boisterous) "I knew it" when Red Skull showed up.

I was happy just to hear him shut up.

#@$% you, Spider punk-ass. :P

All I could think of when I saw him was The Banking Clan, and Darth Plagueis.

Yeah. He rubbed me as bad SW alien.

Haha! That's exactly what I thought too.

My prediction (and fervent hope) for the next film:

After Thanos is finally defeated and the dead come back, the Infinity Stones are given to some of the Avengers for safekeeping.

Vision gets the Mind Stone back.
Strange gets the Time Stone.
Stark gets the Power Stone.
Thor gets the Space Stone.
Adam Warlock (end credits of Guardians 2) gets the Soul Stone.
Wanda gets the Reality Stone.

Now, the sheer power of the Reality Stone augments Wanda's powers to an insane (read: comic book) level and, missing her brother, alters reality to bring him back.

Except it's not him. It's the Quicksilver from the X-Men universe, revealing that she has not actually altered reality so much as merged different realities.

It's the perfect way to bring all the disparate movie universes into the fold.

I approve of this.

Forgive me for throwing a tiny wrench into your theory..But Adam Warlock is confirmed not to even show up till the next GotG film

The only problem I have with this is that I liked MCU Quicksilver better than X-Men Quicksilver. Other than that, sure, why not.

Hmm  You're the first one I've heard say that

I want to post this on FB so bad LOL(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180506/e4cf53b28b07278219645cf8e8655113.jpg)

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LOL!!! You win all day for that! Holy crap that's funny! ;D ;D ;D

*Slow clap*

tx, you get a -1 cookie for that delightfully twisted meme.

:)

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You really think they need an excuse?

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Thanks for the SPOILER.


Agreed. I thought the Quicksilver scenes were the best parts.

Might be a bit difficult: Did anyone notice how 'burned out' the gauntlet looked after Thanos' snap?

No, I did a bit as well as there were some quite powerful scenes that really gave me chills for some reason. Like the one where Thanos 'adopts' Gamora and the one where he retrieves the soul stone...

Well, I got the same feeling. This movie was 'kind of needed' to raise the stakes for the heroes by giving them a 'worthy' opponent...

Thank you! I hope nobody around my office noticed me bursting into laughter ;D

Something I've been curious about: when are the events of Ant Man & Wasp supposed to take place? Pre-, mid-, or post Purge?

Oh yeah. But it still functioned. Also.....there's a spare at the Forge (whatever it's called). ;)

Pre.  It apparently takes place not too long after Civil War. 

Ok. 'Cause i was like, "The world's gone to shell, half of everyone is dead, and there are still people out there determined to be @$$holes?"

Yea, and Captain Marvel takes place in the 90s, so no current timeline films until "Part II"

So Capt. Marvel is a period piece to establish character?

I didn't say I didn't like Quicksilver, just that I like MCU's better.


Yes. Hopefully when she comes into Avengers 4, she has her correct suit, and she is able to help out. I also think it would be kind of sad, but also kind of realistic if she also got dissolved when Thanos snapped.

Aye, Nick Fury is also apparently a main character...with both eyes




I'm pretty sure the green is a suit she got from the Kree and going by the end credit scene I'm sure it will be her red and blue in A4


Gonna be honest, not really hyped for Antman or Captain Marvel.  Neither are characters I've ever really followed.  But I will see them I guess to see if any set up for A4 is shown...I just won't bust my butt trying to see them as soon as they are released

That's what I think too.


I'm not terribly excited for Captain Marvel, though I do want to see what she can do. Ant-Man and the Wasp I'm not nearly as excited for as I was for Ant-Man 1.

Well, I'm not hyped yet, but I'm sure they will be way better than I expect them to be.
I mean, I wasn't fond of Ant-Man in comics, but the movie was fun. I knew nigh nothing about Black Panther and loved it.
-> Chances are quite good that once again my first reaction ('meh') is completely wrong ;D

I learned a while back, when Captain America came out, to not go in with expectations. That way disappointments have less impact. Plus....I never followed any comics, so I couldn't be disappointed by how they things were changed. Cap to me was the absolute least interesting of all the Avengers. I knew nothing of the character, so I also knew nothing of how accurate my sentiment was of him being an antiquated relic; a hero of a bygone age. But I gave it a shot and was completely blown away. More so that it was a period piece, and how it ended with him "jumping" into present day. He quickly became one of my favorites.

Marvel has done well with mixing classic elements of the characters with newer ideas.  People with no background in comics can enjoy it without confusion while those of us steeped in the lore can enjoy it as well.  With Captain Marvel though, her little area of the Marvel Universe was not one I delved into as much.  As well they seem to be really hyping her character...(calling her the "Mightiest Avenger" and all)  They seem to be severely upping her power level for the MCU.

I wouldn't say those with no background have "no confusion". I know they've thrown some things in for the die-hards, but then leave out the explanation. Like the relevance of Bucky.

I thought his relevance was shown pretty clearly, as steve's friend.

But the original character was akin to Robin; he was only a boy. And I only know this to watching FX Movie Download (or whatever they run on Friday nights), cuz they show some of the extras from the DVD/Blu-ray.

Ah, I see what you mean now.   But, did not knowing that affect how you saw Bucky in the film with no fore knowledge?  Yea for me It was a bit jarring seeing Bucky as a grown man taking care of Steve, but it didn't last long.  Instead of a Father/Son relationship it was akin to being Brothers.

Exactly. Most didn't know, me among them. But IMO, the way the changes played into the story without being unbelievable. However, I did think Dum-dum Duggin's bowler hat with chevrons on it was a bit far fetched, as well as the street clothes that most of the POWs were wearing. But despite having potential to affect the backstory, these details were small enough not to affect the main plot.

>:D   ;D

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Ooo! I know which ones I want! Starlord and Groot never looked so good. :D

Finally saw Infinity War with my wife.  This quite literally made me Lol.

Good one Tx!

Really late to the party but just saw this movie and absolutely loved it!  I thought they knocked it out of the park with Thanos, like DL, the scene when he killed Gamora was heart wrenching, but great in terms of character development.  I for one was actually quite satisfied with how it all played out, like DK said there was an ending, it is just that for once the bad guy won just as he claimed he would, with the snap of his fingers.  Of course it is all going to be overturned in the sequel but hey in the meantime prune face can just relax and watch the sunset as he accomplished his mission.  Being a fan of the comics in particular the Infinity Gauntlet, it was nice to see how well done this movie was for the true believers as Stan likes to put it.

I know I'm really late to this but wanted to add my .02 to it.  Given the number of characters for the last decade since Ironman one, I think they did a really great job of mixing all characters into Avengers 3.  It was geared towards Thanos and his backstory along with Gamora's which makes sense since we know the backstory of most of our beloved characters.  I was disappointed in a few character deaths though, some made since like Gamora while others seemed like an after thought or just a scene to add into the movie.  There's multiple cliff hangers and questions at the end of the movie but the Russo brothers more than likely did it on purpose.  I love the movie and can't wait to see Avengers 4 once they introduce Captain Marvel and Ant Man 2 comes out next year.