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« Reply #50130 on: April 29, 2019, 03:01:00 PM » |
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If you had no idea what the philosopher's stone was, maybe read the book? Radical concept I know!  For as often as people say "don't judge a book by its cover"...we inevitably do (funny enough) when it comes to books. I can 100% guarantee people would have thought it was a book about a Philosopher and would have lead to poor sales. But "Sorcerer's Stone" conveys the magical premise. Its not like books and movies don't get their titles changed all over the world to draw in the local demographic. |
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« Reply #50131 on: April 29, 2019, 10:14:16 PM » |
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For as often as people say "don't judge a book by its cover"...we inevitably do (funny enough) when it comes to books. I can 100% guarantee people would have thought it was a book about a Philosopher and would have lead to poor sales. But "Sorcerer's Stone" conveys the magical premise. Its not like books and movies don't get their titles changed all over the world to draw in the local demographic.
Except Philosophers Stone sold pretty well around the world (as far as I know). It makes sense to change a title when translating into another language, but if the country is speaking English it just seems strange to do so. |
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« Reply #50132 on: April 29, 2019, 11:28:30 PM » |
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yes, GM learned the hard way back in the late 60's when trying to sell the Nova in Mexico. they discovered later that Nova translated to " no go"
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« Reply #50133 on: April 30, 2019, 02:31:55 AM » |
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Yup, I read about that with GM and Mexico. This is why cars in different countries have different names
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« Reply #50134 on: April 30, 2019, 08:12:13 AM » |
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My main problem with translated titles is when they try to sell an american movie in french speaking countries and manage to change the english title into another english title....
Either you translate the title or you leave it as it is but changing it to let it remain in english makes no sense to me.
Harry Potter titles were tranlasted quite litterally from english to french and it sold very well. Then again, maybe people in Europe have heard about the Philosopher's Stone more than others.
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« Reply #50135 on: April 30, 2019, 12:45:02 PM » |
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Tell me about it. Guardians of the Galaxy is translated in Mandarin to 星際異攻隊 which means Interplanetary Unusual Attacking Team  |
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« Reply #50136 on: April 30, 2019, 05:47:21 AM » |
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my D&D group be like;
P1: DM, can I go through wall?
DM: Why do you want to go through wall?
P1: to get outside.
DM: but wall is closed.
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« Reply #50137 on: April 30, 2019, 01:10:42 PM » |
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The American Publisher Originally wanted to change it to Harry Potter and the Magic School.... Sorcerer's Stone is at least better than that.
Let us pray and offer our thanks to the fates that this was not meant to be. The worry was because they believed the word "Philosopher" would not convey the Magical aspect of the book. Which it probably wouldn't have...unless you have delved into mythology and legends (like I have) you would have no idea what the Philosopher's Stone was.
But those in the know of magical lore would hear "philosopher's stone" and immediately think alchemy. I initially didn't pay any mind. After hearing Hermione read the characteristics I thought "she's describing a philosopher's stone." I considered that J.K. simply changed the name for her universe. Then I heard what the Brits know as the title of the first book, and got pissed. I've known what I philosopher's stone was since I was like 5. My gripe is give the dumb Americans a chance to not be dumb. Now I'm wondering: how many Americans truly believe that the Sorcerer's Stone is the thing of legend that makes alchemy possible? my D&D group be like;
P1: DM, can I go through wall?
DM: Why do you want to go through wall?
P1: to get outside.
DM: but wall is closed.
P1: That is not what I asked.
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« Reply #50138 on: April 30, 2019, 01:22:05 PM » |
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Tell me about it. Guardians of the Galaxy is translated in Mandarin to 星際異攻隊 which means Interplanetary Unusual Attacking Team
Sounds terrible. Might explain why some american movies are not as big a hit in China as in other places (not just the cultural differences). I know Star Wars is in that case. Now I'm left wondering what they call it there: "Swords of Light"?, "Laser Guns in Space"?, "Midi-chlorians Unleashed"?, "Planets at War"? or maybe "Lame Western Space Fiction"? |
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« Reply #50139 on: April 30, 2019, 02:06:52 PM » |
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Sounds terrible. Might explain why some american movies are not as big a hit in China as in other places (not just the cultural differences). I know Star Wars is in that case. Now I'm left wondering what they call it there: "Swords of Light"?, "Laser Guns in Space"?, "Midi-chlorians Unleashed"?, "Planets at War"? or maybe "Lame Western Space Fiction"?
A lot of English (US) words don't translate the same in other languages so when they're translating from English to a different language, the closest word is used instead. The American English language uses a lot of slang that other countries don't understand. Take words like flabbergasted or mind-boggling for example. These words don't exist in Asian languages nor do most nouns and verbs that describes sight, light and sounds like glisten, glare, gleam, rustle, etc. The Chinese language doesn't have words like "logic" or "romance" in it but there are modern day phonetic tranlations now. The word "miss" doesn't exist in Japanese, instead of saying "I miss you" the translation is "I want to see you" Another country doesn't have the word for "stuff" and instead uses the phrase "collection of things" when translating the word. Portugese doesn't have a word for "bully" or "impeach" but uses the word "massa" for bread dough, cake mix, batter and pastry Jedi isn't even a real word, it was created for the movie so imagine how "Return of the Jedi" would translate to other languages. In Chinese, Return of the Jedi is 绝地大反攻 but translated to English as "Jedi Counterattack"  |
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« Reply #50140 on: April 30, 2019, 04:03:23 PM » |
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A lot of English (US) words don't translate the same in other languages so when they're translating from English to a different language,
That's strange, because proper English (as used by the Queen) translates perfectly well into other languages.🤔😏 |
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« Reply #50141 on: April 30, 2019, 04:25:52 PM » |
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That's strange, because proper English (as used by the Queen) translates perfectly well into other languages.🤔😏
That's why I said US English doesn't translate well, we use a lot of slang and then there are words that have no translation as I've mentioned previously. |
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« Reply #50142 on: April 30, 2019, 04:36:33 PM » |
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That's why I said US English doesn't translate well, we use a lot of slang and then there are words that have no translation as I've mentioned previously.
Maybe you guys should start speaking properly then!  Also, just found this: |
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« Reply #50143 on: April 30, 2019, 05:30:39 PM » |
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But I enjoy it when "real English" don't understand me. I can just use slang to make fun of them...  |
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« Reply #50144 on: April 30, 2019, 11:49:20 PM » |
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or I can just speak Cherokee that can't be translated and mess with everyone's minds. lol
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