Darth Xocni
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« Reply #195 on: January 18, 2017, 11:53:58 PM » |
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Who was involved in the Stark Hyperspace War?
What I'm saying is that the Republic and Jedi thought that Revan and Malak were the only Sith. Traya, Sion and Nihilus proved them wrong as did the Sith Empire when it retook Korriban.
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Taegin Roan
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« Reply #196 on: January 19, 2017, 02:02:53 AM » |
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Who was involved in the Stark Hyperspace War?
Probably not Tony.
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Vivectius
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« Reply #197 on: January 19, 2017, 03:58:12 AM » |
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Who was involved in the Stark Hyperspace War?
The Republic versus the Stark Commercial Combine. The war lasted only a year (44 BBY), and you'll be shocked to learn that it was orchestrated by Darth Sidious as part of his plan to take over the Galaxy. Notable events from the war include Nute Gunray becoming Vicroy of the Trade Federation, and Finis Valorum becoming chancellor. See here: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Stark_Hyperspace_War
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« Reply #198 on: January 19, 2017, 01:34:48 PM » |
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Probably not Tony. Shut up What I'm saying is that the Republic and Jedi thought that Revan and Malak were the only Sith. Traya, Sion and Nihilus proved them wrong as did the Sith Empire when it retook Korriban.
Did some research last night. Found out 2 things. 1) There is a difference between the Stark HS Conflict and the HS War. 2) The Stark Conflict took place 44 BBY, while the Hyperspace War took place in 5000 BBY, between the Republic and the Sith Empire. This was back in the time of Naga Sadow, roughly 1500yrs before Revan. The defeat of Sadow resulted in his self-imposed exile to Yavin 4. The Republic versus the Stark Commercial Combine. The war lasted only a year (44 BBY), and you'll be shocked to learn that it was orchestrated by Darth Sidious as part of his plan to take over the Galaxy. Notable events from the war include Nute Gunray becoming Vicroy of the Trade Federation, and Finis Valorum becoming chancellor. See here: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Stark_Hyperspace_WarDon't know where/if the mix up came from (might just be me), but from reading Cloak of deception, I can't remember whether that was when he was made viceroy, or simply the Neimoidians were left in control of the Federation. I'm inclined to the latter, but the memory is foggy today.
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Rapine
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« Reply #199 on: January 25, 2017, 12:28:00 PM » |
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The way Twi'leks ought to always look:
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« Reply #200 on: January 25, 2017, 02:12:39 PM » |
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The way Twi'leks ought to always look: As much as I approve, this thread is more for information and discussion rather than random awesome.
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« Reply #201 on: January 25, 2017, 02:36:16 PM » |
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I know. My apologies.
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Darth Acervus
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« Reply #202 on: February 02, 2017, 08:50:13 PM » |
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Well, from the books I've read so far I found only the Darth Bane trilogy and now the Plagueis which stands out and shows some exciting intelligence behind the Dark Side. Others seemed to be one dimensional and they couldn't really elevate to a level beyond simple arrogancy to even remembering them so my memories are vague here and there On the other hand the whole Lucas universe is a complete mess if we want to dig deeper than the surface. As it was mentioned before, the mind trick is pretty much one point where the concept is bleeding and force push is the other for jedis (however in the D20 RPG it was somewhat regulated in use and wouldn't cause any interference using it on non-living creatures like droids. But everywhere else it's being used with a great smile.) All seem to go back to the good and bad opposition. It's my very personal opinion but if the jedi order also has the concept in mind about good and bad and it's just somehow different to the others' approach, then they are not really legitim to "guard the galaxy" In my theoretical jedi order there's no good and bad but things as they are. Guarding means intervention and needs a concept to back it up. The Dark Side is also just a label to another concept which is different and - how funny - the whole "light" and "dark" names are established by those who claim to be the light So I agree to move away a bit from the core of the movie-line when it comes to research and contemplation. Certainly and interesting discussion. Can't wait for the jedi academy to be set up too Plagueis is a stand-alone classic for any Star Wars fanatic. It is the one novel in the canon(or non-canon or legends or whatever) that draws me back time after time & never disappoints. It can chill you to the bone with its emotional depth in a way no other SW book does. Not saying I have read them all (but I have read a great deal of em lol) The Lucas universe & beyond is a mess! But its our mess & I love it. Edit: Ahh, I seem to have commented on something from about a year ago. Apologies. My very late comment stands though.
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« Reply #203 on: February 01, 2018, 09:49:27 PM » |
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So then, I've been thinking on something brought up in a conversation with Logos and I. Why has the force been so under-utilized, especially on the dark side of things. So much potential for just plain visceral pain, violence, and destruction, but yet it keeps being nerfed, overall. Is it just the writers not wanting to be that brutal? A perception that audiences in the wider sense won't accept it? Small minds and short sightedness?
Sure, force choke is great for dramatic effect in punishing underlings who fail, but what about force crushing someone's heart? Ripping the skin from their body? Sending a force push THROUGH the aorta and causing cascading brain aneurysms...
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Lady Agana Kath
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« Reply #204 on: February 01, 2018, 09:56:42 PM » |
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Such potential lost... Thats ok, gives us creative thinkers an advantage over our adversaries
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« Reply #205 on: February 01, 2018, 10:07:35 PM » |
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So then, I've been thinking on something brought up in a conversation with Logos and I. Why has the force been so under-utilized, especially on the dark side of things. So much potential for just plain visceral pain, violence, and destruction, but yet it keeps being nerfed, overall. Is it just the writers not wanting to be that brutal? A perception that audiences in the wider sense won't accept it? Small minds and short sightedness?
Sure, force choke is great for dramatic effect in punishing underlings who fail, but what about force crushing someone's heart? Ripping the skin from their body? Sending a force push THROUGH the aorta and causing cascading brain aneurysms...
In Path of Destruction, Darth Bane [SPOILER ALERTS] 1) crushed a "superior" lord bodily, leaving a mangled heap that once resembled a human. 2) stopped his father's heart before he knew he was a Force sensitive. 3) scared the piss out of a hungry rancor just from his DS aura, and then subsequently broke its will and subjugated it into being his ride to the temple of Darth Revan (I believe) The bigger issues in using the Force against an opponent arise when that foe is Force sensitive as well. One of the first things taught by both Sith and Jedi is to guard against subtle Force attacks.
On a side note, I can't believe this thread has been dead for a year.
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« Reply #206 on: February 01, 2018, 10:10:52 PM » |
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In Path of Destruction, Darth Bane [SPOILER ALERTS] 1) crushed a "superior" lord bodily, leaving a mangled heap that once resembled a human. 2) stopped his father's heart before he knew he was a Force sensitive. 3) scared the piss out of a hungry rancor just from his DS aura, and then subsequently broke its will and subjugated it into being his ride to the temple of Darth Revan (I believe) The bigger issues in using the Force against an opponent arise when that foe is Force sensitive as well. One of the first things taught by both Sith and Jedi is to guard against subtle Force attacks. In the book I'm currently reading, Jedi outcast vs. Jedi outcast, one countered a telekinetic attack by using the Force hold themselves to the ground.
On a side note, I can't believe this thread has been dead for a year.
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Lady Agana Kath
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« Reply #207 on: February 01, 2018, 10:11:56 PM » |
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In Path of Destruction, Darth Bane [SPOILER ALERTS] 1) crushed a "superior" lord bodily, leaving a mangled heap that once resembled a human. 2) stopped his father's heart before he knew he was a Force sensitive. 3) scared the piss out of a hungry rancor just from his DS aura, and then subsequently broke its will and subjugated it into being his ride to the temple of Darth Revan (I believe) The bigger issues in using the Force against an opponent arise when that foe is Force sensitive as well. One of the first things taught by both Sith and Jedi is to guard against subtle Force attacks.
On a side note, I can't believe this thread has been dead for a year. Thanks for the spoilers, now send me the trilogy so I can read it. We need to get it up and running again
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« Reply #208 on: February 01, 2018, 10:13:51 PM » |
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Thanks for the spoilers, now send me the trilogy so I can read it.
I gave you plenty of warning.
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Lady Agana Kath
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« Reply #209 on: February 01, 2018, 10:16:52 PM » |
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I gave you plenty of warning. And I ignored it Still need to borrow the books
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