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Title: ‘Harry Potter’ Spinoff Movie, ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Post by: Kham-Ryn Kurios on September 12, 2013, 04:41:39 PM
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J.K. Rowling has announced via her Facebook Page that she is writing a new Harry Potter spinoff film titled Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them for Warner Bros. The film will follow Newt Scamander, author of the textbook “Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them” – which was (as fans of the novels know) the name of the textbook Harry and Co. used while first-years at Hogwarts in the first installment, The Philosopher’s Stone. Rowling previously adapted the idea into a companion book for the Harry Potter novels.

The film will be the first in a new franchise from Rowling and Warner Bros. – read the official Facebook posting from Rowling below:

Warner Bros. announced on 12th September 2013 that J.K. Rowling would be making her screenwriting debut with ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them’, the first in a new film series which is part of their expanded creative partnership with J.K. Rowling. The films will be inspired by Harry Potter’s Hogwarts textbook of the same name, and will feature the book’s fictitious author, Newt Scamander.

“It all started when Warner Bros. came to me with the suggestion of turning ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them’ into a film. I thought it was a fun idea, but the idea of seeing Newt Scamander, the supposed author of ‘Fantastic Beasts’, realized by another writer was difficult. Having lived for so long in my fictional universe, I feel very protective of it and I already knew a lot about Newt. As hard-core Harry Potter fans will know, I liked him so much that I even married his grandson, Rolf, to one of my favourite characters from the Harry Potter series, Luna Lovegood.

As I considered Warners’ proposal, an idea took shape that I couldn’t dislodge. That is how I ended up pitching my own idea for a film to Warner Bros.

Although it will be set in the worldwide community of witches and wizards where I was so happy for seventeen years, ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them’ is neither a prequel nor a sequel to the Harry Potter series, but an extension of the wizarding world. The laws and customs of the hidden magical society will be familiar to anyone who has read the Harry Potter books or seen the films, but Newt’s story will start in New York, seventy years before Harry’s gets underway.

I particularly want to thank Kevin Tsujihara of Warner Bros. for his support in this project, which would not have happened without him. I always said that I would only revisit the wizarding world if I had an idea that I was really excited about and this is it.”


The subject matter is sound – the exploration of mystical beasts in the wizarding world – and with Warner Bros. still working out their superhero universe – with the Batman vs. Superman movie poised to make a big smash in 2015 – having something from the Harry Potter Universe – from Rowling herself – is just more ammunition in hand.

What do you think Harry Potter fans? Does this concept sound good to you?

Source: http://screenrant.com/harry-potter-jk-rowling-fantastic-beasts-and-where-to-find-them-movie/ (http://screenrant.com/harry-potter-jk-rowling-fantastic-beasts-and-where-to-find-them-movie/)

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Title: Re: ‘Harry Potter’ Spinoff Movie, ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Post by: TheHobbitofDune on September 12, 2013, 05:22:03 PM
Well, more Harry Potter is definitely a good thing in my book. You can never have too much. But with that said, I think that she should have went with new books, or a different movie idea. No TV shows though... ugh, please no. I already have too many that I need to keep track of. lol. And besides, a TV show would just feel cheap considering how this is Harry Potter and all.

Doesn't really matter now though. I'm going to be looking forward to this!


Title: Re: ‘Harry Potter’ Spinoff Movie, ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Post by: Oramac on September 12, 2013, 06:46:26 PM
This is interesting to me.  It opens up a lot of cross-generational possibilities for the future.  Maybe not in this film, since it's set 70 years before CoS, but if they franchise this I can see a lot of films including parents/kids of the original characters, or even bringing back the originals for cameos, like how Ep VII is likely to do.  It would be a spectacular way to increase the HP universe without ever actually making a sequel/prequel.


Title: Re: ‘Harry Potter’ Spinoff Movie, ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Post by: Master Rel on September 12, 2013, 07:32:18 PM
I am on board!


Title: Re: ‘Harry Potter’ Spinoff Movie, ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Post by: RLYHYPERGUY on September 12, 2013, 10:31:44 PM
Not a fan, to be completely honest.

Why can't we just leave good things alone?  :(


Title: Re: ‘Harry Potter’ Spinoff Movie, ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Post by: kewlkev360 on September 12, 2013, 10:43:48 PM
Not a fan, to be completely honest.

Why can't we just leave good things alone?  :(

Why not?  It's not a prequel or sequel.  It's just a different story in the same universe.   


Title: Re: ‘Harry Potter’ Spinoff Movie, ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Post by: RLYHYPERGUY on September 13, 2013, 01:52:24 AM
Why not?  It's not a prequel or sequel.  It's just a different story in the same universe.   

I know. I'm just one of those guys that likes to see new, original stuff. Yeah, it's a new story, but it's a universe I've already spent 7 (9 counting Fantastic Beasts and Quidditch Through The Ages) books and 8 movies with. I'm just a bit tired of franchises stretching themselves too thinly.


Title: Re: ‘Harry Potter’ Spinoff Movie, ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Post by: Darth Severus on September 13, 2013, 04:45:46 AM
I know. I'm just one of those guys that likes to see new, original stuff. Yeah, it's a new story, but it's a universe I've already spent 7 (9 counting Fantastic Beasts and Quidditch Through The Ages) books and 8 movies with. I'm just a bit tired of franchises stretching themselves too thinly.
I understand where you are comming from, but to me it depends on the quality. If the new stories are good and impactful I say bring the on. If they are just recycled crap like Abrams Star Trek movies then just don't watch (assuming your wife or someone else doesn't drag you too them.)

I mean the worse thing that can happen is that they aren't any good, the best that they can push the incredible world of Harry Potter into new territories that bring enjoyment to all.


Title: Re: ‘Harry Potter’ Spinoff Movie, ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Post by: Oramac on September 13, 2013, 02:30:38 PM
I know. I'm just one of those guys that likes to see new, original stuff. Yeah, it's a new story, but it's a universe I've already spent 7 (9 counting Fantastic Beasts and Quidditch Through The Ages) books and 8 movies with. I'm just a bit tired of franchises stretching themselves too thinly.

By that logic, Disney should drop all plans to make Ep VII or any other Star Wars films at all.  I appreciate your sentiment, and to an extent I agree.  It is nice to have new, original films/books/etc.  But not at the expense of work that is legitimately good. 


Title: Re: ‘Harry Potter’ Spinoff Movie, ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Post by: RLYHYPERGUY on September 13, 2013, 10:56:29 PM
By that logic, Disney should drop all plans to make Ep VII or any other Star Wars films at all.  I appreciate your sentiment, and to an extent I agree.  It is nice to have new, original films/books/etc.  But not at the expense of work that is legitimately good. 

Would you be surprised if I said I'm not really looking forward to Episode VII?  :D

I have no problem with continuing certain franchises, it's just that every single franchise is getting some kind of unmerited continuation at the expense of original work.

There's this thing that a lot of studios fall prey to: the "blockbuster syndrome." Every studio wants their movies to make tons of money on opening weekend. What movies are best for this? Franchises! Anything that's connected to another film that people loved will get them in on the name alone, whether it's good or not.

Back in the old days, movies would make a lot of money based on word of mouth. People would see a movie, tell their friends about it, then their friends would see it. What this means is that the quality movies would be the ones that make tons of money, not the generic blockbusters. Granted, word of mouth still happens today, but on a much smaller scale.

The blockbuster syndrome is SEVERELY stunting creativity, making it harder for aspiring filmmakers, such as myself, to get into the business. And with all of these sequels, franchises, remakes, reboots, etc., modern audiences have become accustomed to sticking with the familiar rather than trying something new. This is why you don't see many blockbusters nominated for Academy Awards; they want people to see the less popular, outstanding films.

It's a two-way street: the studios go with the same stuff, and then audiences eat it up, encouraging the studios to keep giving them the same stuff. It's like having the same thing for every single meal every single day. It's nice at first, but then you want some variety.

I have no problem with the Harry Potter universe, in fact I love it. I just feel like I've spent enough time with it and would much rather find a new universe to explore.

I don't want this thread to get too off-topic (I've already started derailing it and feel badly), so let's just agree to disagree.


Title: Re: ‘Harry Potter’ Spinoff Movie, ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Post by: Kham-Ryn Kurios on September 13, 2013, 11:05:50 PM
@RLYHYPERGUY: These threads are about movies, that includes the film industry; your post was fine, you were explaining your stance on franchises.

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I'd say we will see something different in the Potter universe this time.

It is being set 70 years prior and is centered around the author's adventures; also it starts in New York.


Title: Re: ‘Harry Potter’ Spinoff Movie, ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Post by: RLYHYPERGUY on September 14, 2013, 05:55:33 AM
@RLYHYPERGUY: These threads are about movies, that includes the film industry; your post was fine, you were explaining your stance on franchises.

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I'd say we will see something different in the Potter universe this time.

It is being set 70 years prior and is centered around the author's adventures; also it starts in New York.


Haha thanks, man. I am glad that it's not something like, Harry Potter: The Next Generation and is doing something different. I do like the New York setting also (I grew up in New Jersey). While I do wish this wasn't happening in the first place, I am glad that it's not the worst that could happen.


Title: Re: ‘Harry Potter’ Spinoff Movie, ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Post by: Master Rel on September 14, 2013, 01:00:45 PM
Hmmm I do find the resistance to the new Potterverse movie...the main reasons being...

1. this is being written by the original author...so it is guaranteed to be honest and authentic

2. the Potterverse is wide and expansive...deserving of another look

3. this will not include the core of the younger audience...but...the fan base which grew up on Harry Potter books are now young adults, this movie is more for them and thus a great idea to maintain the potential IMO


Beyond this, it is not a regurgitated Hogwarts story...to be honest I would watch a new batch of kids or a teacher focused story.

This is not being led by someone else, retelling the Harry Potter story.

This will most likely focus on the magical creatures (duh), the interaction between the muggle and the wizarding worlds, the earlier experiences of dealing with magical creatures causing havoc and the resulting clean up.

It will start off in New York though I suspect it will become a world wide romp...China, Japan, Africa, Russia, Canada, Brazil, etc.

The opportunity to explore the cryptozoology aspect will be fun also...those magical creatures that have been seen by muggles and have found their way into legend and myth...bigfoot, nessie, etc...as well as those that we know from the magical world.

I welcome it 100%.

Just as I would a Hogwarts TV show...honestly I think it would work well...remember what the whole Harry Potter experience did...it created a whole new class of readers...this...this has value, so bringing in a brand new audience and getting them hooked into reading the other books...win win in my book (Ha, see what I did there :) )


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Since we mentioned Trek...I have no issue with the JJ Trek.  Being 48 I own more memories than most regarding Trek, I have met many of the stars (ate lunch with a couple), and related...if I can appreciate all the various visions of the same baseline then why the resistance?

I liked Next Gen, DS9, and yes even Enterprise. 

Because I am a fan of Trek...as long as I am entertained then I can find elements to appreciate.

JJ's vision, IMO, is great.  He took the idea and rather than just revisiting the same with new movie tech, he created something new with characters we were familiar with...kind of the ultimate fanfic experience lol.

I am on board.

Maybe it is just me...but if the production values are good, I am entertained, and there are surprises in the storyline/characters then it deserves my attention...just saying  :D


Title: Re: ‘Harry Potter’ Spinoff Movie, ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Post by: Kresnik on September 14, 2013, 01:59:50 PM
This is like any expansion of a universe some are awesome some are turds... Some authors have made their entire living off of series / expansions etc ... I just see this as an expansion of a series ... Besides technically the book was written and now they are just doing a deeper story line.

I am very excited about this.


Title: Re: ‘Harry Potter’ Spinoff Movie, ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Post by: Master Rel on September 14, 2013, 02:09:13 PM
This is like any expansion of a universe some are awesome some are turds... Some authors have made their entire living off of series / expansions etc ... I just see this as an expansion of a series ... Besides technically the book was written and now they are just doing a deeper story line.

I am very excited about this.

Indeed...as am I.

:D


Title: Re: ‘Harry Potter’ Spinoff Movie, ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Post by: Kham-Ryn Kurios on September 14, 2013, 03:43:36 PM
8 ‘Harry Potter’ Spin-off Films We Want To See by Screenrant.

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The Aurors: If any profession in the world of Harry Potter was overlooked, it was unquestionably that of the Aurors. As the most elite and highly trained members of the Department of Magical Law Enforcement (a branch of the Ministry of Magic), the Aurors Office is basically a magical version of Britain's MI5 or MI6 - intelligence officers operating largely in secret.

But where their real-world counterparts are tasked with tracking down enemies of the state, Aurors must tangle with the wizarding world's most deadly threats - who also happen to be wizards and witches. The films granted a look at a few Aurors - Tonks, Kingsley Shacklebolt, and 'Mad-Eye' Moody - and Harry even grew up to join their ranks; but the day-to-day risks and rewards of Aurors remained largely absent.

WHY IT WOULD WORK: A film based on the Aurors' exploits would blend magic with espionage, opening doors for an adult-focused story - something truly new for the series - while retaining the element of fantasy. Historically, the British have always mastered the spy genre better than any other, so one set in the gritty (but magical) world of wizards and witches would attract audiences both old and new.

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Quidditch Through The Ages: It's the sport that captured the imagination of both readers and moviegoers: Quidditch. Easily the most popular sport of the wizarding world, it also happened to be an impressively designed one; players trying to score on goaltenders, others attempting to cripple them, while a pair of Seekers battled head-to-head to win victory for their team.

Although the sport - as popular to European wizards and witches as football to Muggles - remained a key element in the novels, the film series soon relegated it to the fringes. A true shame, since the matches that did make their way into the films were well-paced, well-shot, and action-packed.

WHY IT WOULD WORK: An entire movie based around Quidditch would contain enough excitement and emotion as any sports-focused, family-friendly film tends to be, while tapping into the Harry Potter universe. Besides "Fantastic Beasts..." Rowling also penned a spin-off book detailing "Quidditch Through the Ages," so it could be the next for adaptation. A movie following a character, or an entire team, from their days at Hogwarts all the way to the Quidditch World Cup would finally give the sport the attention that the films were required to remove.

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The Marauders: The self-dubbed 'Marauders' are a no-brainer for a standalone spin-off. Their talent for mischief was evident in The Prisoner of Azkaban, in the form of The Marauders Map, allowing its user to track the location of every person in Hogwarts Castle - provided they "were up to no good."

Fans know that 'Messrs Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot & Prongs' were actually Harry's father James, Remus Lupin, Sirius Black and Peter Pettigrew, masters of mischief that even Harry couldn't compete with. While J.K. Rowling has maintained for some time that she has little interest in writing a prequel, or a story based on the Marauders in particular, it's clear that by refusing to explore their time at Hogwarts, one of the most interesting stories hinted at in the series will be missed.

WHY IT WOULD WORK: First off, it's not hard to see why following a group of Hogwarts students would work - it already has - but the neverending onslaught of 'coming of age' stories following trouble-making boys proves there's always an audience. Add in the fact that one of them is bitten by a werewolf, forcing his closest friends to master the art of transforming into animals to control him during full moons, and you have a story pitch that any studio would jump at. The film - set in the 1970s, no less - would also offer a chance to make Pettigrew a more sympathetic character, while introducing four potential up-and-coming young actors along the way.

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The Hit Wizards: The Aurors may be entrusted with finding and capturing the biggest and baddest evil wizards, but what about the everyday criminals and crime bosses working beneath the surface of metropolitan Muggle cities? Those tasks are too menial for Aurors to deal with, so they fall to the men and women of the Magical Law Enforcement Squad. Clearly, J.K. Rowling knew just how promising this element of magical crime was, since she dubbed these magic policemen - we kid you not - Hit Wizards.

If that alone doesn't make our case for a film following the Hit Wizards and Hit Witches in their everyday investigations into magical crimes, nothing will. But fans of Harry Potter have already gotten a taste of a battle of good and evil on as high-stakes a scale as possible; why not show them a world that is just as dangerous, but wasn't deemed important enough to play a major role in the tale of The Boy Who Lived.

WHY IT WOULD WORK: With the current crop of blockbusters based on worldwide threats showing no signs of slowing, Warner Bros. would be wise to invest in other genres (perhaps their decision to adapt a story of fantastic creatures shows they're well aware). Specifically, not a magical world that exists in some far-off place of castles and forests, but in the very cities the audiences inhabit. That was part of the premise of The Mortal Instruments, but after that film fumbled the idea, we're confident the minds behind Harry Potter could make it work.

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Department of Mysteries: The setting of the Harry Potter series is a world in which the rules of reality no longer apply. Even so, the students of Hogwarts (and even full-grown wizards and witches) only ever seem to be granted a relatively safe level of power. Think about it: the magic in the film shows mastery of time travel, the ability to erase a person's memory, and even partially resurrect the essence of the deceased; yet Harry and his friends spend most of their time shooting spells as if they're sci-fi blasters.

There's a reason for the limits the Ministry of Magic places on everyday magic, and most of them could be explained by the men and women working in the Department of Mysteries. With secret investigations into love, death, time, space, and thought carried out in the department by the 'Unspeakables' who work there, the brief tour of its offices seen in The Order of the Phoenix gave barely a glimpse of its contents.

WHY IT WOULD WORK: If nothing else, Inception proved that mass audiences are intrigued, not intimidated by films that challenge their notions of reality, so long as they're entertaining in the process. Paired with the existing history of the Harry Potter universe, and crowds would flock to a film that embraced the surreal aspects of the fiction, and dove headlong into the deepest, darkest mysteries of magic. In the hands of the right director, this blurring of fantasy and abstract emotion in a physical place where nearly anything is possible, could start its very own franchise.

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Dragonologists: Seriously, who doesn't love dragons? Not content with simply featuring dragons for the sake of spectacle, the franchise introduced specific breeds - the Chinese Fireball, Hungarian Horntail, and the Ukrainian Ironbelly, to name a few.

Yet, as is the case with most magical beings in the Harry Potter universe, J.K. Rowling went into great detail on the capture and keeping of dragons, whether it be by members of the Committee for the Disposal of Dangerous Creatures a.k.a. 'Dragon killers,' or those trusted to handle them in captivity, known as dragonologists. It takes more than a dozen wizards or witches to typically bring down a dragon, and are kept in isolation from the Muggle world by dragon keepers like Charlie Weasley. If they ever got out...

WHY IT WOULD WORK: Fact: a dragon will always attract more fans than a movie without dragons. But fans of the Harry Potter series know just how practically the creatures were dealt with in the books and film, meaning they would also know how big a deal an outbreak of the fire-breathing creatures would be. Even a film based around the hunting and capture of dragons - featuring Charlie Weasley as a major character, perhaps - would be possible, since Charlie's job was time-consuming enough to keep him from Hogwarts during the rise of Voldemort. A fill-in-the-gaps 'interquel,' anyone?

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Magic Crosses The Pond: A casual observer of the Harry Potter franchise might make the assumption that wizards and witches are a uniquely British phenomenon, or, given the rest of characters seen in the films, a European one. But that's not the case at all; surely the differences between cultures would make a film chronicling the wizarding world of the United States worthwhile? After all, America has its very own Quidditch league, with its most famed pitch located (secretly) in New England.

Although Harry Potter proved to be as popular in the United Kingdom as one might expect, the series was every bit as embraced in North America - look to the popularity of 'The Wizarding World of Harry Potter' at Orlando's Universal Studios for evidence. Doesn't it follow, then, to introduce more stories set in the North American world of wizards and witches?

WHY IT WOULD WORK: Overlooking the sheer marketing dream of 'Harry Potter coming to America,' a new setting, and in the process, a new approach to magical men and women living in secret could take the series in a new direction, for an entirely new generation of young audiences. Would American wizards and witches deal with the same issues as their British counterparts? Since few Americans ever showed up in Hogwarts, we'd guess there's an American school of magic hidden somewhere - ripe for exploration, if you ask us.

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Neville Again: The perennial underdog of the series, Neville Longbottom started as somewhat of a joke when compared to his courageous and outspoken fellow Gryffindors. Neville proved his friendship and character in the end, saving the day in The Deathly Hallows: Part 2, but we shouldn't forget: both Neville and Harry were potentially the 'chosen one' prophesied to bring down Lord Voldemort (Voldemort chose Harry, granting him his own powers in the process). Had Voldemort chosen differently, the entire franchise might be named after Longbottom.

Potter may have gotten the glory, but Neville's own greatness found him working as an Auror after Voldemort had been defeated, before ending us up a professor of Herbology at Hogwarts. That leaves almost two decades' time in which anything could have happened to Longbottom, including a chance to see Hogwarts from a new perspective.

WHY IT WOULD WORK: In the time since production wrapped on the Harry Potter films, Matthew Lewis, who played Neville, has undergone a bit of a change. For those who haven't kept up with the fan community, his new fit physique (and teeth) have made him somewhat of a heartthrob among Potter fans, spawning numerous internet memes claiming the same. Already a fan-favorite of the series, a film focused on Neville would capitalize on that excitement, while fleshing out one of the more heartbreaking back stories of the cast.

Source: http://screenrant.com/harry-potter-spinoff-films-preview-discussion/ (http://screenrant.com/harry-potter-spinoff-films-preview-discussion/)

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I would also add to that list, a story of the Four Founders and the First Wizarding War.


Title: Re: ‘Harry Potter’ Spinoff Movie, ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Post by: TheHobbitofDune on September 14, 2013, 03:49:40 PM
If they are just recycled crap like Abrams Star Trek movies then just don't watch

I'm sure that it has introduced Star Trek to a new generation of fans who are probably going back and watching some of the older stuff because of it. I thought it was a good movie, but even if I didn't, I would still praise it because of that reason. And besides, it was pretty different.


Title: Re: ‘Harry Potter’ Spinoff Movie, ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Post by: Master Rel on September 14, 2013, 04:00:30 PM
I'm sure that it has introduced Star Trek to a new generation of fans who are probably going back and watching some of the older stuff because of it. I thought it was a good movie, but even if I didn't, I would still praise it because of that reason. And besides, it was pretty different.

Indeed...win win  :D


Title: Re: ‘Harry Potter’ Spinoff Movie, ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Post by: Kham-Ryn Kurios on September 14, 2013, 04:08:46 PM
There are only so many plots that can be explored, that doesn't mean they shouldn't try to create something unique to them, but it also means you (the viewer) should just watch a movie to watch a movie because it is just a MOVIE and remember...
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Don't take your entertainment for granted, lots of time and hard work go into making movies, something very personal to everyone involved; I consider us, the audience, the last part of that recipe.


Title: Re: ‘Harry Potter’ Spinoff Movie, ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Post by: Oramac on September 14, 2013, 08:28:20 PM
I don't want this thread to get too off-topic (I've already started derailing it and feel badly), so let's just agree to disagree.

Believe it or not, I don't disagree with you.  Quite the opposite, in fact.  I would love to see more original stuff out of Hollywood.  But I'm enough of a HP fan (and a few other franchises) that I'm willing to let it slide for those films. 

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The films granted a look at a few Aurors...and Harry even grew up to join their ranks

Wait, what?!  When did this happen?  Did I miss something, or have I just forgotten the last paragraph in the book?  I always wondered why Harry never taught Defense Against the Dark Arts.  Figured he'd be a shoe-in for the position. 


Title: Re: ‘Harry Potter’ Spinoff Movie, ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Post by: Kham-Ryn Kurios on September 14, 2013, 08:30:14 PM
Believe it or not, I don't disagree with you.  Quite the opposite, in fact.  I would love to see more original stuff out of Hollywood.  But I'm enough of a HP fan (and a few other franchises) that I'm willing to let it slide for those films. 

Wait, what?!  When did this happen?  Did I miss something, or have I just forgotten the last paragraph in the book?  I always wondered why Harry never taught Defense Against the Dark Arts.  Figured he'd be a shoe-in for the position. 


Some good info here:

http://www.beyondhogwarts.com/harry-potter/articles/jk-rowling-goes-beyond-the-epilogue.html (http://www.beyondhogwarts.com/harry-potter/articles/jk-rowling-goes-beyond-the-epilogue.html)


Title: Re: ‘Harry Potter’ Spinoff Movie, ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Post by: RLYHYPERGUY on September 14, 2013, 08:42:50 PM
Believe it or not, I don't disagree with you.  Quite the opposite, in fact.  I would love to see more original stuff out of Hollywood.  But I'm enough of a HP fan (and a few other franchises) that I'm willing to let it slide for those films.  

I completely understand. I have certain franchises I love (MCU!) as well. The reason I like the Marvel Cinematic Universe though is that they give each creative team complete control over their film, as long as it's consistent with the larger, multi-film story. It's wonderful how they're encouraging creativity!

Iron Man 3 is my favorite Marvel film (so far) because it epitomizes this idea. Sure, people may not have liked it, but at the very least you have to appreciate what Marvel is promoting.

If you can't already tell, I'm very passionate about creativity, and hate it when studios interfere too much in the creative process (Spider-Man 3 is a prime example). Hopefully WB will let Rowling do her thing and I suspect they will, considering how much free reign they gave Christopher Nolan.

However, screenwriting and novel writing are two very different things, something I hope that Rowling understands. I'm hoping she'll be able to put her ideas into one solid movie, and not have to resort to multiple parts (another thing I wish wouldn't happen).

Okay, I have to admit I'm warming up to the idea, even though I still wish it wasn't happening.  :D


Title: Re: ‘Harry Potter’ Spinoff Movie, ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Post by: Kresnik on September 15, 2013, 12:47:12 AM
I really don't understand why any one would wish it didn't happen... There are plenty of terrible HP games and that didn't ruin the franchise ...


Title: Re: ‘Harry Potter’ Spinoff Movie, ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Post by: RLYHYPERGUY on September 15, 2013, 05:35:04 AM
I really don't understand why any one would wish it didn't happen... There are plenty of terrible HP games and that didn't ruin the franchise ...

Well frankly, not very many people are into movie-based video games, as it's pretty much expected that they'll be terrible. The Harry Potter series gained most of its popularity through film (yes, the books are very popular, but the movies pushed them forward to a much greater level) and, since this new addition is being made through that medium, it has the potential to take it to an even greater level, or completely destroy it.


Title: Re: ‘Harry Potter’ Spinoff Movie, ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Post by: Kham-Ryn Kurios on September 15, 2013, 03:20:02 PM
Let them run it into the ground and destroy it, let them do it with all the franchises. Star Wars 24, Transformers 10, Fast & Furious: Again.

The next time I make a multi-million dollar movie, I'll decide what films suck; until then I'll reserve my opinions and enjoy myself.

We don't deserve anything from those involved in filmmaking, not with the way people badmouth directors or actors; Affleck anyone? Ledger anyone? Lucas anyone?

They should totally cast David Bowie as the lead, just because, or just cast the movie so unexpectedly the internet explodes. :D

MOAR OV EVRYTING! I cannot get enough of these moving pictures.


Title: Re: ‘Harry Potter’ Spinoff Movie, ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Post by: Darth Severus on September 16, 2013, 05:17:40 AM
Let them run it into the ground and destroy it, let them do it with all the franchises. Star Wars 24, Transformers 10, Fast & Furious: Again.

The next time I make a multi-million dollar movie, I'll decide what films suck; until then I'll reserve my opinions and enjoy myself.

We don't deserve anything from those involved in filmmaking, not with the way people badmouth directors or actors; Affleck anyone? Ledger anyone? Lucas anyone?

They should totally cast David Bowie as the lead, just because, or just cast the movie so unexpectedly the internet explodes. :D

MOAR OV EVRYTING! I cannot get enough of these moving pictures.

I don't think I could disagree more with a statement. Halloween is one of my favorite movie of all time, Halloween put a number behind it, not so much. Because people watch it doesn't mean its good, or should be view. Jersey Shore made it multiple years.

Movies are comerical but they are also an art form, if you are talking about just making money, then you are right, no arguement through what ever animal feces at a wall if it makes money all is good.
If you are talking abut the art form then who cares how much money was made and to be honest if you make a multi-million dollar movie you can be like James Cameron and have your real sucess be 20 years in your past.


Title: Re: ‘Harry Potter’ Spinoff Movie, ‘Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Post by: Master Rel on September 16, 2013, 05:51:41 AM
Certainly there are movies and setting that can not support more without rehashing; Halloween is a good one...Highlander, "there should have only been one!" lol, I did not mind the TV series but the movies, one and done for me.

Sometimes the chemistry is what we all liked...the characters, actors, director, editor, music, etc. it all comes together and it really can not be duplicated.

Sometimes it is not the chemistry, but rather the setting or the effects that supports the potential and these could be expanded upon.

Could does not always mean should though.

Potterverse I do not mind because it is mostly focused on the child coming of age aspect...within a setting.  Step away from the school and there is a whole magical world to explore, and a different core profile to use...in this case an adult story following up on a connection to the original series.

So there is respect to the original, there is expansion to the magical setting, and the author is heading it up...I am looking forward to it.