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« Reply #1080 on: March 31, 2016, 07:33:10 PM » |
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That's all good and well, but they're still double-bladed lightpikes...and their multiple advantages over double-bladed lightsabers makes me wonder why users of the latter don't switch over to the former. It's like using a protosaber over a lightsaber. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lightsaber_pikeDid you mean to say "they're" or "there are"? |
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« Reply #1081 on: March 31, 2016, 08:09:35 PM » |
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They're. The Temple Guards use lightpikes.
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« Reply #1082 on: March 31, 2016, 09:08:50 PM » |
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If you say so.  But a pike is a spear. |
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« Reply #1083 on: April 01, 2016, 12:08:11 AM » |
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If you say so. But a pike is a spear. I'm not the only one...  |
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« Reply #1084 on: April 01, 2016, 12:40:46 AM » |
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what about that the double-bladed sabers (are meant to?) purposely detach to create 2 single sabers if needed?
could/would you use only 1 side of a lightpike (as Maul did w/ his lightsaber)?
would a compromised lightpike be thought to work if cut in half?
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« Reply #1085 on: April 01, 2016, 12:49:43 AM » |
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what about that the double-bladed sabers (are meant to?) purposely detach to create 2 single sabers if needed?
could/would you use only 1 side of a lightpike (as Maul did w/ his lightsaber)?
would a compromised lightpike be thought to work if cut in half?
That's a good point, but: Double-bladed lightpikes are just about the same size, their hilts are thinner (and probably more ergonomic), and they're made of a lightsaber-resistant metal.
And:  I'm assuming that the red buttons are separate ignition switches. Also, most double-bladed lightsabers can't detach into two separate sabers. |
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« Reply #1086 on: April 01, 2016, 12:56:15 AM » |
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Double-bladed lightpikes are just about the same size, their hilts are thinner (and probably more ergonomic), and they're made of a lightsaber-resistant metal.
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« Reply #1087 on: April 01, 2016, 12:59:52 AM » |
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resistant does not necessarily mean impervious.
 It's not like the hilt is specifically made to always block a lightsaber blade, it's more of a precautionary measure - a plan b - more than anything. If you always block a lightsaber blade with the hilt of anything, you should probably improve your fighting. |
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« Reply #1088 on: April 01, 2016, 01:20:30 AM » |
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It's not like the hilt is specifically made to always block a lightsaber blade, it's more of a precautionary measure - a plan b - more than anything.
No doubt. I suppose if we're looking for in-canon reasons, then - as was suggested earlier - perhaps the longer blades of the dualsaber goes toward another (more aggressive?) fighting style. |
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« Reply #1089 on: April 01, 2016, 01:41:30 AM » |
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No doubt.
I suppose if we're looking for in-canon reasons, then - as was suggested earlier - perhaps the longer blades of the dualsaber goes toward another (more aggressive?) fighting style.
Maybe, although seeing as how some people have dual-phase lightsabers I'm sure that permanently adjusting your lightsaber length isn't a problem. I don't see why double-bladed lightpikes can't have the same length blades as double-bladed lightsabers. |
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« Reply #1090 on: April 01, 2016, 06:59:18 AM » |
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Maybe it is something simpler. One is designed to defend or guard something, while the other is designed to attack or fight something. The pikes are designed to defend or confine so the blades are shorter and the hilts longer. The double bladed sabers are designed to combat other lightsabers and have long blades to keep the reach advantage verse a regular lightsaber.
A slight deviation, what about the Sentinel's foldable two bladed pike seen in Rebels? Or are those double blade lightsabers that can fold? We see something similar in the Clone Wars whe nJedi General Krell has two similar weapons for his four large arms.
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« Reply #1091 on: April 01, 2016, 07:17:14 AM » |
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Maybe it is something simpler. One is designed to defend or guard something, while the other is designed to attack or fight something. The pikes are designed to defend or confine so the blades are shorter and the hilts longer. The double bladed sabers are designed to combat other lightsabers and have long blades to keep the reach advantage verse a regular lightsaber.
A slight deviation, what about the Sentinel's foldable two bladed pike seen in Rebels? Or are those double blade lightsabers that can fold? We see something similar in the Clone Wars whe nJedi General Krell has two similar weapons for his four large arms.
Maybe, after all symbolism is an important factor in weaponry. You're right in that double-bladed lightpikes' hilts seem to be longer than those of double-bladed lightsabers. The Temple Guards have foldable DB lightpikes:
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« Reply #1092 on: April 01, 2016, 11:45:02 AM » |
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I would still consider the temple guards to have saber staffs. They are just have longer hilts and shorter blades than Maul's. They probably do better in confined areas.
makes sense, they are primarily operating in confined corridors, but I disagree with this classifying them as "pikes", they're just a different variation on double bladed sabers, same as there are different lengths of single bladed saber (the initiate and Aeon being good examples) to me the lightsaber pike is single bladed and has a long handle, in all the sources I've seen these are described as being made from lightsaber resistant material, useful for if you're using the whole length of it when fighting. Using the whole length doesn't necessarily mean you need to be a better fighter, it just makes sens to use all of it, the bottom can be used to sweep an opponents blade away in a manner that allowed you to bring the blade in for a chop. Young could also use the handle for inflicting non-lethal disabling blows |
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« Reply #1093 on: April 01, 2016, 12:53:10 PM » |
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I'm not the only one... I think whoever labeled this a pike was trying too hard to be edgy, and used a term that doesn't fit. A pike is (dictionary.com) pikenoun 1. a shafted weapon having a pointed head, formerly used by infantry. See here for what defines a pike.  When I think of a pike in SW, visions of the force pikes used by the Imperial guard or Gungans come to mind. The Magna Guard electro-staffs come to mind as well. I would classify the weapon in question as a long handled staff. If it were more hilt and less blade, then I would call it a pike. Otherwise chalk it up to an overzealous game designer that wanted something "different". |
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« Reply #1094 on: April 01, 2016, 01:15:36 PM » |
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they got polexe wrong in that picture, theres a distinct lack of an axe head. in fact that thing labelled as a pole-axe is more a warhammer
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