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« Reply #1335 on: May 06, 2016, 10:32:15 AM » |
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A disturbing thought I encountered while looking at the slightly older Galactic maps and the most recent one that came out for TFA. Starkiller Base's point of origin? It is either extremely close or exactly on top of the older map's location of Ilum. We know from the late part of Clone Wars and Rebels that old Sith super weapons and the Death Star used huge kyber crystals, and Ilum is a source of such crystals that the Jedi used for their lightsabers.
Could Starkiller Base have been one of Palpatine's projects? Use one of the Jedi's planets as a new superweapon would be one of those twisted things he would do. Just the process took even longer than the Death Star, which had already been started during the Clone Wars, that a second Death Star was built as a stop gap until Starkiller could be finished?
Speaking of the Death Star, do we know for sure it was a Seperatist project after Dooku turned over the plans to Palpatine? We know from TCW that the Republic retook Geonosis within the first year of the war. If the Death Star was built there, surely the Republic would have noticed it what invading (with the likes of Obi-wan Kenobi involved). Could Palpatine have had the system sealed off following the Second Battle of Geonosis and then started building the Death Star, using Republic troops and Geonosis labor? And to keep it quiet later exterminated the population once the Death Star's hyperdrive was functional?
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« Reply #1336 on: May 06, 2016, 04:13:22 PM » |
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A disturbing thought I encountered while looking at the slightly older Galactic maps and the most recent one that came out for TFA. Starkiller Base's point of origin? It is either extremely close or exactly on top of the older map's location of Ilum. We know from the late part of Clone Wars and Rebels that old Sith super weapons and the Death Star used huge kyber crystals, and Ilum is a source of such crystals that the Jedi used for their lightsabers.
Could Starkiller Base have been one of Palpatine's projects? Use one of the Jedi's planets as a new superweapon would be one of those twisted things he would do. Just the process took even longer than the Death Star, which had already been started during the Clone Wars, that a second Death Star was built as a stop gap until Starkiller could be finished?
Speaking of the Death Star, do we know for sure it was a Seperatist project after Dooku turned over the plans to Palpatine? We know from TCW that the Republic retook Geonosis within the first year of the war. If the Death Star was built there, surely the Republic would have noticed it what invading (with the likes of Obi-wan Kenobi involved). Could Palpatine have had the system sealed off following the Second Battle of Geonosis and then started building the Death Star, using Republic troops and Geonosis labor? And to keep it quiet later exterminated the population once the Death Star's hyperdrive was functional?
I used to think it may have been Ilum as well but i don't think so anymore after seeing the movie. Ilum itself would've had the power to possibly destroy planets where as starkiller base required power from the sun |
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« Reply #1337 on: May 06, 2016, 04:19:40 PM » |
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« Reply #1338 on: May 06, 2016, 04:37:54 PM » |
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A disturbing thought I encountered while looking at the slightly older Galactic maps and the most recent one that came out for TFA. Starkiller Base's point of origin? It is either extremely close or exactly on top of the older map's location of Ilum. We know from the late part of Clone Wars and Rebels that old Sith super weapons and the Death Star used huge kyber crystals, and Ilum is a source of such crystals that the Jedi used for their lightsabers.
Could Starkiller Base have been one of Palpatine's projects? Use one of the Jedi's planets as a new superweapon would be one of those twisted things he would do. Just the process took even longer than the Death Star, which had already been started during the Clone Wars, that a second Death Star was built as a stop gap until Starkiller could be finished?
Speaking of the Death Star, do we know for sure it was a Seperatist project after Dooku turned over the plans to Palpatine? We know from TCW that the Republic retook Geonosis within the first year of the war. If the Death Star was built there, surely the Republic would have noticed it what invading (with the likes of Obi-wan Kenobi involved). Could Palpatine have had the system sealed off following the Second Battle of Geonosis and then started building the Death Star, using Republic troops and Geonosis labor? And to keep it quiet later exterminated the population once the Death Star's hyperdrive was functional?
Excellent work. You have officially quelled some of my overwhelming hatred of the concept behind SKB. If it was in fact begun by the Imps, and the FO took over the project, that would make a helluva lot more sense as far as the amount of time it would have taken to gut a planet to transform it into a super weapon. |
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« Reply #1339 on: May 06, 2016, 08:37:40 PM » |
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The idea that it was Ilum is quite possible, especially since we saw in the Clone Wars storyboard episodes the role kyber crystals play in those massive superweapons...
Incidentally, the behind the scenes info on Wookieepedia shows Dantooine was almost chosen by the scriptwriters to become Starkiller.
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« Reply #1340 on: May 06, 2016, 09:23:14 PM » |
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The idea that it was Ilum is quite possible, especially since we saw in the Clone Wars storyboard episodes the role kyber crystals play in those massive superweapons...
Incidentally, the behind the scenes info on Wookieepedia shows Dantooine was almost chosen by the scriptwriters to become Starkiller.
I think Illum would be a more logical choice due to the natural source of crystals. I don't see a reason to use Dantooine other than for nostalgic naming. |
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« Reply #1341 on: May 08, 2016, 05:04:25 AM » |
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"The Starkiller is the culmination of old Empire research into dark energy translations and hyperspace tunneling."
"The First Order selected the icy world for its unique energy-transmitting crystalline deposits"
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« Reply #1342 on: May 09, 2016, 05:58:58 PM » |
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What do they call a "snow speeder" when it's not flying over snow?
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« Reply #1343 on: May 09, 2016, 07:23:12 PM » |
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« Reply #1344 on: May 09, 2016, 07:23:52 PM » |
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What do they call a "snow speeder" when it's not flying over snow?
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« Reply #1345 on: May 09, 2016, 07:39:24 PM » |
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« Reply #1346 on: May 09, 2016, 07:48:13 PM » |
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And for those that don't uber-geek?
Did anybody actually say snowspeeder in the movie or just speeder? |
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« Reply #1347 on: May 09, 2016, 07:53:40 PM » |
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Did anybody actually say snowspeeder in the movie or just speeder?
Actually I think Han was the only one to directly refer to them, and he just asked "Are the speeders ready yet?" I just find it odd that it's most commonly known as a snow speeder, even though it can be used for any low altitude mission. If you've played Rogue Squadron, that's what they call it, even though it 2/3 of its main story use is over snowless terrain.  |
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« Reply #1348 on: May 17, 2016, 07:38:42 PM » |
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Was the Republic fleet not in space when the planets were destroyed?
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« Reply #1349 on: May 17, 2016, 07:45:03 PM » |
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Was the Republic fleet not in space when the planets were destroyed?
More importantly, why wouldn't the Republic fight the FO head on? Why was there only a Resistance? |
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