Darth Tepes
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« Reply #2700 on: October 01, 2018, 10:43:32 PM » |
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Not only is there nothing refuting it, its pretty hard to say it could be any other planet:
"The planet that would become Starkiller Base was once a remote and mysterious world known only to a handful in the galaxy. During the age of the Galactic Empire, the planet was mined for kyber crystals for use in the Death Star's superlaser."
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« Reply #2701 on: October 01, 2018, 10:51:30 PM » |
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Not only is there nothing refuting it, its pretty hard to say it could be any other planet:
"The planet that would become Starkiller Base was once a remote and mysterious world known only to a handful in the galaxy. During the age of the Galactic Empire, the planet was mined for kyber crystals for use in the Death Star's superlaser."
Exactly why I think it might be. Technically there could be another winter planet in the same system as Illum, but I don't really think that there is another one that is both an ice planet and grows crystals. |
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« Reply #2702 on: October 01, 2018, 11:58:36 PM » |
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Exactly why I think it might be. Technically there could be another winter planet in the same system as Illum, but I don't really think that there is another one that is both an ice planet and grows crystals.
If I remember correctly on the new canon map..Illum isn't there anymore |
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« Reply #2703 on: October 02, 2018, 01:48:20 AM » |
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I'd like to see more about Enfy's Nest, and find out what happens to Qi'ra.
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« Reply #2704 on: October 02, 2018, 09:50:48 AM » |
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I'd like to see more about Enfy's Nest, and find out what happens to Qi'ra.
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« Reply #2705 on: October 02, 2018, 05:55:07 PM » |
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Yes, but I want to know what you guys think.
Despite utterly loathing SKB from concept to execution, I believe it is plausible as far as timeline. The Empire had control of the system since Order 66, so it's possible that the actual weapon project started under the Empire, and the FO simply took over its development after the fall of the Emperor. We already know that Illum was notoriously cold. I'd like to see more about Enfy's Nest.
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« Reply #2706 on: October 02, 2018, 11:40:30 PM » |
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Exactly why I think it might be. Technically there could be another winter planet in the same system as Illum, but I don't really think that there is another one that is both an ice planet and grows crystals.
I would tie up nicely if it were, and truing a former 'Jedi' world into a weapon of mass destruction twice would be fitting Palpatines sense of humour. But i suspect the writers of TFA put far less thought into the canon implications of what planet it used to be than you are TR, I think it was more a case of contrast in planets in the movie for aesthetic purposes - Jakku Yellow desert, Takodana/rebel base Green Jungle, Star Killer White Alipne. Also the white and cold associates with making the First Order bad/heartless/technologically advanced etc. |
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« Reply #2707 on: October 03, 2018, 12:45:02 AM » |
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I would tie up nicely if it were, and truing a former 'Jedi' world into a weapon of mass destruction twice would be fitting Palpatines sense of humour. But i suspect the writers of TFA put far less thought into the canon implications of what planet it used to be than you are TR, I think it was more a case of contrast in planets in the movie for aesthetic purposes - Jakku Yellow desert, Takodana/rebel base Green Jungle, Star Killer White Alipne. Also the white and cold associates with making the First Order bad/heartless/technologically advanced etc.
Oh yes, the writers clearly did it for the purpose of the contrast and an explanation of who/what the First Order is like you said. Really the only thing I have found to possible refute it is the fact that from what we saw of Ilum in TCW and SKB in TFA, they do not quite seem like they have the same kind of terrain other than the snow. Ilum seems very barren and harsh while SKB is definitely cold and snowy, is a more of a icy forest (much like a lot of Alaska and Canada) if that makes any sense. |
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« Reply #2708 on: October 03, 2018, 01:03:46 AM » |
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Oh yes, the writers clearly did it for the purpose of the contrast and an explanation of who/what the First Order is like you said. Really the only thing I have found to possible refute it is the fact that from what we saw of Ilum in TCW and SKB in TFA, they do not quite seem like they have the same kind of terrain other than the snow. Ilum seems very barren and harsh while SKB is definitely cold and snowy, is a more of a icy forest (much like a lot of Alaska and Canada) if that makes any sense.
I've personally run into a lot of that warping of the senses when it comes to Star Wars planets too. I think we naturally tend to take what we see through the various media as what a particular planet or locale looks like as a whole (part of why I love the novels and extra material so much.) Like in the Legends material, Hoth had volcanic activity and unfrozen water which seems a stark contrast to everything we saw in ESB. Tattooine another great example, I always associated it with the portrayal in ANH of a barren and backwater world that time forgot, and then all the sudden in Episode 1 it is the site of the Boonta Eve Classic and is more of a tourist hotspot than I could have ever dreamed. Star Wars is just so varied like that, I love it when they challenge our preconceived notions as long as it makes a modicum of sense  |
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« Reply #2709 on: October 03, 2018, 02:00:35 AM » |
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Watched Solo again, I’m liking it more after watching it a few and getting to appreciate it
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« Reply #2710 on: October 03, 2018, 01:46:02 PM » |
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Watched Solo again, I’m liking it more after watching it a few and getting to appreciate it
Ya know other than looking up the scene with you know who showing up in hologram form, I haven't seen Solo yet, might get around to it eventually |
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« Reply #2711 on: October 03, 2018, 01:54:41 PM » |
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Ya know other than looking up the scene with you know who showing up in hologram form, I haven't seen Solo yet, might get around to it eventually
I say just get into it with an opened mind. It's decent for what it is and may not be Episode IV but it's re-watch and like worthy |
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« Reply #2712 on: October 03, 2018, 02:30:38 PM » |
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Ya know other than looking up the scene with you know who showing up in hologram form, I haven't seen Solo yet, might get around to it eventually
I fully endorse this movie. |
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« Reply #2713 on: October 03, 2018, 04:18:54 PM » |
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I say just get into it with an opened mind. It's decent for what it is and may not be Episode IV but it's re-watch and like worthy
I fully endorse this movie.
Well, see its not my feeling on the status of Star Wars that has kept me from seeing it...its my disinterest in Han. |
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« Reply #2714 on: October 03, 2018, 04:36:48 PM » |
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Well, see its not my feeling on the status of Star Wars that has kept me from seeing it...its my disinterest in Han.
Do it for Lando. For LANDO. |
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