Random Star Wars Thoughts

[Darth Tepes]

Do you have any hope that they could turn things around with 9, or do you think it's too far gone to save the trilogy?

Hope for "fixing" it...not much.  But, a little hope maybe we'll get something I can justify seeing in the theater.  Allowing a different director carte blanche for a second film in a trilogy was just a bad move. 

[Saso Is-kor]

Hope for "fixing" it...not much.  But, a little hope maybe we'll get something I can justify seeing in the theater.  Allowing a different director carte blanche for a second film in a trilogy was just a bad move. 

Amen to that, Tepes.

No fan of the trilogy here, but I do think that the right hands are back on the steering wheel with JJ. Thing is, I don't envy his position at all though. He basically has two completely different storylines to go with now, his episode or Rian's episode (pretty crazy how a sequel of a film can be like an opposing story.) I'm under the impression that whichever path he chooses, it's going to be off because it will in effect be ignoring an entire past film. Rian tied him down in a lot of ways. Like with Rey, he can't scale back her powers now, she's an unstoppable Force storm at this point. On a side note, I think it's kind of sad that Chewbacca is the lone survivor of the OT. It feels a bit like Star Wars has been hollowed out. Even R2 and Threepio are just background characters, at best.   

[Darth Tepes]

Amen to that, Tepes.

No fan of the trilogy here, but I do think that the right hands are back on the steering wheel with JJ. Thing is, I don't envy his position at all though. He basically has two completely different storylines to go with now, his episode or Rian's episode (pretty crazy how a sequel of a film can be like an opposing story.) I'm under the impression that whichever path he chooses, it's going to be off because it will in effect be ignoring an entire past film. Rian tied him down in a lot of ways. Like with Rey, he can't scale back her powers now, she's an unstoppable Force storm at this point. On a side note, I think it's kind of sad that Chewbacca is the lone survivor of the OT. It feels a bit like Star Wars has been hollowed out. Even R2 and Threepio are just background characters, at best.   

Leia's prominent role is still on apparently.  They are utilizing deleted scenes from 7 and 8 to work something.

[Saso Is-kor]

Leia's prominent role is still on apparently.  They are utilizing deleted scenes from 7 and 8 to work something.

Ugh, ok. It's probably going to be crazy. Deleted scenes were deleted for a reason, of course 

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[Darth Tepes]

Ugh, ok. It's probably going to be crazy. Deleted scenes were deleted for a reason, of course 

True, but apparently much of the deleted scenes were story ideas they scrapped during production.  Like how we see Maz handing Leia Luke's saber in the Ep 7 trailer but that never happens in the film

[Darth Logos]

Do you have any hope that they could turn things around with 9, or do you think it's too far gone to save the trilogy?

Yes. There's an huge explosion and it wipes out history until it encounters another huge explosion in the past, undoing everything up to the end of ROTJ when the DS2 blows.

Hope for "fixing" it...not much.  But, a little hope maybe we'll get something I can justify seeing in the theater.  Allowing a different director carte blanche for a second film in a trilogy was just a bad move. 

No, giving Jar Jar Abrams direction of a sci-fi movie was the bad move. He's like 2 steps above Michael Bay when it comes to sacrificing story for wiz-bang effects/visuals. Johnson just expanded on that mentality.

[Infinit01]

Yes. There's an huge explosion and it wipes out history until it encounters another huge explosion in the past, undoing everything up to the end of ROTJ when the DS2 blows.

Spoiler alert: Episode 9, Luke wakes up after becoming one with the Force just to find out that he was merely a glitch in the Matrix and got flushed out by the Machines only to be picked up by the Nebuchadnezzar. Oh wait...

[Darth Tepes]

Or.... Rey finds the World between Worlds and Pulls Luke through like Ahsoka

[Taegin Roan]

Or.... Rey finds the World between Worlds and Pulls Luke through like Ahsoka

Or Ahsoka Returns.


EDIT: Is it just me, or is the first thing people think of when the hear "The World between Worlds" is the place in The Magician's Nephew that they go to before Narnia?

[Darth Tepes]

Or Ahsoka Returns.


EDIT: Is it just me, or is the first thing people think of when the hear "The World between Worlds" is the place in The Magician's Nephew that they go to before Narnia?

I've heard quite a few stories use similar titles for in between realms

[Darth Logos]

Spoiler alert: Episode 9, Luke wakes up after becoming one with the Force just to find out that he was merely a glitch in the Matrix and got flushed out by the Machines only to be picked up by the Nebuchadnezzar. Oh wait...

LOLZ!  Point

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LOLZ!  Point

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[Darth Tepes]

The Lightsaber duels that never happened thread have made me think about something.  Were the Jedi of the Old Republic, as a whole, more powerful than the Jedi of the Prequel era?     common sense dictates as time progresses skill and power, even as a group , should grow.  But it seemed the Jedi were more interested in maintaining the status quo instead of expanding their knowledge.  This was evidenced in Season 6 of Clone Wars when Yoda was questioning what he knew after hearing Qui-Gon.  The council shrugged it off as "that cant happen".   Only Anakin was open to the possibility.  My thought is in terms of knowledge the Old Jedi and the new were kind of even.  Now in terms of skill with a Saber and Force abilities, I think the old republic would have been more skilled since they were fighting Sith on a more constant level.   The Sith on the other hand, I think were More powerful by the time of Palpatine.  The Sith did not reject expanding their knowledge, in fact they encouraged it.  Uncle George himself said Palpatine was the most powerful Sith who ever lived.  Hazy early morning ramblings.

[Infinit01]

I agree with what you're saying, Tepes.  The Jedi of the Old Republic were also in war for quite some time and they worked on expanding their skills.  The Jedi of the Prequel era were content with where they were at since "the Sith are no longer alive" kind of mentality. The is kind of like the military where they decrease their population during peace time but then start recruiting like crazy when a conflict arises.  The recruitment during war time, I believe, leaves a lot of training that one who experience if their weren't in a hurry to spit soldiers out versus during peace time then they can take their time and mold the soldier into who they want that soldier to be.  I think it's around the same type of mentality between the Old Republic versus the Prequel era.  One was in constant war and conflicts so they made sure to keep expanding their knowledge and skill sets since the Sith were around and you never know when they'll be in a fight versus the Prequel era when the Sith was "no more". 

I also think that the Old Republic Jedis were like music from the 70s and 80s versus the Prequel Jedis were like the music from the 2000s.  The former were instant classics and had a way about themselves versus the newer Jedis were the "watered down" version of the original.  They were taught some of the same things but throughout the generations, smaller things got left out until the Prequel Era.