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Title: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: vorpalrend on January 11, 2013, 01:21:12 AM
Ok, i have done a basic search but cant find a guide. I was wondering on how to build a saber and what parts ill need from the ultrasaber site and id hate to buy everything then realise "Oh, you need 7 of them and 4366432 of them"

Any help would be much appreciated, and im sorry to anger anyone if theres a link on the home page, my eyes are getting bad and i dont get my glasses for a week and a half still.


May the force empower you all.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: BenPass on January 11, 2013, 02:09:04 AM
Well first off, you won't anger anyone on here for asking questions lol. We're pretty easy going group here. As to what you need, it's dependent on what you're looking for. If you're looking for a stunt build (no sound), then you'll want this list:

Body
Emitter
Pommel
(Note - Some bodies don't have interchangeable emitters)
Latching Switch
Battery pack
Batteries
Battery charger
LED
Blade

If you want sound, then you need all of the above except:

Battery pack/speaker combo
Obsidian soundboard
Momentary switch
Resistor (I recommend BuckPuck)

Here are some links for you:

Complete hilts - http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/78.htm (http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/78.htm)
Bodies only - http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/90.htm (http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/90.htm)
Emitters only - http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/88.htm (http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/88.htm)
Pommels only - http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/86.htm (http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/86.htm)
Battery Pack/speaker combo - http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-sound-aacombo.htm (http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-sound-aacombo.htm)
Obsidian board - http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-sound-obsidianusb3.0.htm (http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-sound-obsidianusb3.0.htm)
Batteries and charger - http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-battcharcombo.htm (http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-battcharcombo.htm)
BuckPuck - http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-buckpuck1000.htm (http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-buckpuck1000.htm)
LED module for V2 hilts - http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/led%20module.htm (http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/led%20module.htm)
LED module for all other hilts - http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/mls.htm (http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/mls.htm)
Latching switch - http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-guardedlatching.htm (http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-guardedlatching.htm)
Momentary switch - http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-guardedmomentary.htm (http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-guardedmomentary.htm)
Mid-grade blades - http://www.ultrasabers.com/MG-Blade-p/blades-mid.htm (http://www.ultrasabers.com/MG-Blade-p/blades-mid.htm)


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: vorpalrend on January 11, 2013, 02:58:44 AM
You bloody legend, thank you so much.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: BenPass on January 11, 2013, 03:55:20 AM
You bloody legend, thank you so much.

Not a problem at all! Hope it helped! Mind if I ask what you're planning to build for the saber? Also, are you going sound or stunt? Be sure to ask if you need anything else for help. I know there are a bunch of talented people here who are willing to help, and I'm getting pretty good with building 'em myself. Don't want to toot my own horn too much, but I can walk you through quite a bit.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Master Bluespike74 on January 11, 2013, 01:29:17 PM
This thread will give you links to videos for building as well.

http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=7466.0 (http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=7466.0)

Blue


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: eerockk on January 11, 2013, 05:58:28 PM
Sticky? It's a great mini-guide!


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: BenPass on January 11, 2013, 06:07:44 PM
Well it would be a helpful redirect for those with similar questions even if it doesn't get stickied. I'll probably hold on to a copy at the very least in an effort to help as much as possible.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: vorpalrend on January 12, 2013, 07:46:33 AM
Im planning to make atleast one of both.

I mean, if i can collect Assassins Creed gear i can bloody well take the time to build something so wonderful that i have been dreaming to do since i was 6

But stunt will be good as a starter. Mates and I will be recording things so sounds can be edited in


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Duff Man on January 12, 2013, 11:00:00 AM
Well first off, you won't anger anyone on here for asking questions lol. We're pretty easy going group here. As to what you need, it's dependent on what you're looking for. If you're looking for a stunt build (no sound), then you'll want this list:

Body
Emitter
Pommel
(Note - Some bodies don't have interchangeable emitters)
Latching Switch
Battery pack
Batteries
Battery charger
LED
Blade

If you want sound, then you need all of the above except:

Battery pack/speaker combo
Obsidian soundboard
Momentary switch
Resistor (I recommend BuckPuck)

Here are some links for you:

Complete hilts - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/78.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/78.htm[/url])
Bodies only - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/90.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/90.htm[/url])
Emitters only - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/88.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/88.htm[/url])
Pommels only - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/86.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/86.htm[/url])
Battery Pack/speaker combo - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-sound-aacombo.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-sound-aacombo.htm[/url])
Obsidian board - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-sound-obsidianusb2.1.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-sound-obsidianusb2.1.htm[/url])
Batteries and charger - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-battcharcombo.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-battcharcombo.htm[/url])
BuckPuck - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-buckpuck1000.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-buckpuck1000.htm[/url])
LED module for V2 hilts - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/led%20module.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/led%20module.htm[/url])
LED module for all other hilts - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/mls.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/mls.htm[/url])
Latching switch - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-guardedlatching.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-guardedlatching.htm[/url])
Momentary switch - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-guardedmomentary.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-guardedmomentary.htm[/url])
Mid-grade blades - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/MG-Blade-p/blades-mid.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/MG-Blade-p/blades-mid.htm[/url])


You will also so need solder, a soldering Iron, heat shrink, wire (28-24 gauge depending on what you like) and a magnifying glass(not needed but makes it easier).  For the Led you will also need a Heat sink unless you are using a Modular LED System(MLS)/ LED Module.....and a bunny, A fuzzy one.(a puppy or kitten will work too)
Us old guys for get to add these basics sometimes.  ;D(I know they are Duh's but it is kinda like the "Do Not EAT" signs on the urinal cakes....some one will eventually ask)


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: vorpalrend on January 12, 2013, 01:15:43 PM
Thanks for that man! good thing i do some basic circuitry work otherwise id have to go buy all that.....although i should do it anyway, some of my gear is outdated and my soldiering iron is a bit.......i dont know? liquefied?


OK! lets say im looking through the store and all that.

I have selected an RGB hilt and want the rest around it. Have body, pommel and emiter.

What else do i need for the RGB? as far as i have read i need to use the dummy cell because you can overcharge the LED. but what else specifically?


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Master Bluespike74 on January 15, 2013, 03:43:59 AM
Sticky? It's a great mini-guide!

Or, everyone could just subscribe to my channel and save the moderators the effort!


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Manroon on April 03, 2013, 06:13:52 PM
Stickied! *goes to wash stickies off hands now* lol

Seriously, nice and informative topic! Kudos guys!


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: WMcleod93 on May 28, 2013, 10:44:28 PM
I'm sorry to bother anyone after so long. I'm new on this.
I was studying your list of what's required to construct a lightsaber and I am rather confused between the latching switch and the momentary switch.
Could you tell me what each is and what it would do in the circuit for this lightsaber?

Thanks for the help


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Master Bluespike74 on May 30, 2013, 01:04:56 AM
I'm sorry to bother anyone after so long. I'm new on this.
I was studying your list of what's required to construct a lightsaber and I am rather confused between the latching switch and the momentary switch.
Could you tell me what each is and what it would do in the circuit for this lightsaber?

Thanks for the help

A latching switch is a simple on/off switch.  It is used in the stunt builds as the only thing you are doing is turning a light bulb on and off.

A momentary switch is used to send a quick signal to a control device, in this case the sound board. 


Title: Re: how to change the led on an ultrasaber
Post by: bradhertz on June 17, 2013, 12:54:24 PM
does anybody know how to remove the LED on an ultrasaber. i have been able to take the LED and the battery pack out of the handle, but they are connected at the switch and i cannot seem to be  able to remove that.


Title: Re: how to change the led on an ultrasaber
Post by: eerockk on June 17, 2013, 01:14:46 PM
does anybody know how to remove the LED on an ultrasaber. i have been able to take the LED and the battery pack out of the handle, but they are connected at the switch and i cannot seem to be  able to remove that.


If you are swapping out an LED, you might want to try pulling it out from the emitter side, cutting it out from there, and then souldering/heatshrinking the wires back together from that end. I did this with my Prophecy and then my Guardian and didn't have any issues.

Prophecy Swap
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhGHQ3uYhCM#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhGHQ3uYhCM#ws)

Guardian Quick Disconnects Addition
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY0RdPTsTQ8#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY0RdPTsTQ8#ws)


Title: Re:If you are swapping out an LED, you might want to try pulling it out from the
Post by: bradhertz on June 17, 2013, 04:54:14 PM
ok thanks i will try that out.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: adventureGeek92 on January 15, 2014, 11:10:07 PM
Hi, I'm building my own lightsaber I got all the parts I need from Ultrasabers. I'm having a really hard time with the wiring I can't seem to get it to work I fried my first sound board and I had to get a another one. I now have it were the sound and LEDs work and if I hold the switch down it will turn off but only when I hold it down otherwise it stay's on. I'm also unsure about the BuckPuck and how I'm supposed to wire that in. The parts I have are:
  
   BuckPuck
   Momentary switch
   Obsidian USB 3.0
   Guardian Green LEDs with quick release
   Lion batters
   Battery holder (for 2)
   Shock Le single switch lightsaber body
   And me who doesn't know what there doing.

Any help would be appreciated this is a learning process and has been fun, but I need a little (more like a lote) of help from someone who knows what there doing.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Master Bluespike74 on January 15, 2014, 11:19:32 PM
Hi, I'm building my own lightsaber I got all the parts I need from Ultrasabers. I'm having a really hard time with the wiring I can't seem to get it to work I fried my first sound board and I had to get a another one. I now have it were the sound and LEDs work and if I hold the switch down it will turn off but only when I hold it down otherwise it stay's on. I'm also unsure about the BuckPuck and how I'm supposed to wire that in. The parts I have are:
  
   BuckPuck
   Momentary switch
   Obsidian USB 3.0
   Guardian Green LEDs with quick release
   Lion batters
   Battery holder (for 2)
   Shock Le single switch lightsaber body
   And me who doesn't know what there doing.

Any help would be appreciated this is a learning process and has been fun, but I need a little (more like a lote) of help from someone who knows what there doing.


http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=7466.0 (http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=7466.0)

This thread will help you with installing US products.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: eerockk on January 15, 2014, 11:55:12 PM
Blue's post will cover it for sure, but drop any specific questions here. We're always happy to help!  ;D


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: adventureGeek92 on January 17, 2014, 05:30:08 AM
Hi,
Those video's are a big help thanks.
Another question I have is when I turn the LEDs on they get really hot is that normal?


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Master Bluespike74 on January 17, 2014, 09:32:43 AM
Hi,
Those video's are a big help thanks.
Another question I have is when I turn the LEDs on they get really hot is that normal?


It is.  You have to use heat sink to pull the heat away from them.  Copper & aluminum are the best types. 


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: adventureGeek92 on January 17, 2014, 05:08:24 PM
Thanks so much you'v been a big help.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: adventureGeek92 on January 22, 2014, 06:27:20 PM
When the battery speaker is hooked up to the LEDs is there supposed to be a higher pitched whistle type noise or is there supposed to be silence?
And I just got my new USB soundboard but I can't get any sound from it any ideas?


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Master Bluespike74 on January 22, 2014, 08:46:28 PM
When the battery speaker is hooked up to the LEDs is there supposed to be a higher pitched whistle type noise or is there supposed to be silence?
And I just got my new USB soundboard but I can't get any sound from it any ideas?

There should only be silence.  You have power going to the speaker directly from the batteries. 


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: adventureGeek92 on January 22, 2014, 09:45:08 PM
There should only be silence.  You have power going to the speaker directly from the batteries. 


Can I fix it or did I do something wrong? If I can fix it, how?


Title: Re: how to change the led on an ultrasaber
Post by: Relan Tarel jedi kinght on February 07, 2014, 01:49:56 PM
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Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: adventureGeek92 on February 09, 2014, 01:22:00 AM
Hi, I have a (Modular LED System (MLS) unit) and when ever I turn it on it gets really really hot. (I can't touch it hot) is it supposed to do that or am I hooking it up wrong? If it need heat shrink or something like that, were do I put it on?
 Thanks.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Relan Tarel jedi kinght on February 09, 2014, 01:37:29 AM
Hi, I have a (Modular LED System (MLS) unit) and when ever I turn it on it gets really really hot. (I can't touch it hot) is it supposed to do that or am I hooking it up wrong? If it need heat shrink or something like that, were do I put it on?
 Thanks.

Your gona have to be more spisific. The leds put off a lot of heat it is the saber itself the part that's getting hot cuz that's normal if its been on for more than 25 min or so


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: adventureGeek92 on February 09, 2014, 07:00:53 AM
Your gona have to be more spisific. The leds put off a lot of heat it is the saber itself the part that's getting hot cuz that's normal if its been on for more than 25 min or so


Its the Modular LED System (looks kinda like Iron Mans mini arc-reactor)  that gets hot. Its not in the saber hilt yet I'm working on wiring right now and when ever I turn on the LEDs after a few minutes (5-10min or so) they get hot enough to burn skin and they take a wile to cool off.
  What do you think?
 Thanks.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Relan Tarel jedi kinght on February 09, 2014, 01:25:55 PM

Its the Modular LED System (looks kinda like Iron Mans mini arc-reactor)  that gets hot. Its not in the saber hilt yet I'm working on wiring right now and when ever I turn on the LEDs after a few minutes (5-10min or so) they get hot enough to burn skin and they take a wile to cool off.
  What do you think?
 Thanks.

Sounds normal the led put off a lot of heat so they need the heat sink and the hilt to disprce the heat


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: adventureGeek92 on February 09, 2014, 08:10:16 PM
Sounds normal the led put off a lot of heat so they need the heat sink and the hilt to disprce the heat

I'm really new to this so please bare with me. Dose the hilt act like the heat sink or do I need to get some how dose that work?
I really appreciate all your help thanks.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Relan Tarel jedi kinght on February 09, 2014, 08:27:44 PM
The hilt will help disperce the heat. You can also follow my build as I progress if it will help you in your build
http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=18437.0;topicseen (http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=18437.0;topicseen)


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: adventureGeek92 on February 09, 2014, 10:29:17 PM
Thank you very very much.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: DarthVinnyous on March 11, 2014, 09:55:04 PM

Quick question on this; is there somewhere to see the wiring diagrams for building? I have had my sabers on my wall for far too long and recently have been inspired to disassemble one of my initiates to mess around with and begin the process of building my own saber. Also is there a thread that explains how the soundboard works as well as someone who can explain converting from a standard stunt saber to one with sound?
I have a V3 initiate that I would like to put sound into but dont want to mess it up.

Thanks!


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Master Bluespike74 on March 11, 2014, 10:23:46 PM
Quick question on this; is there somewhere to see the wiring diagrams for building? I have had my sabers on my wall for far too long and recently have been inspired to disassemble one of my initiates to mess around with and begin the process of building my own saber. Also is there a thread that explains how the soundboard works as well as someone who can explain converting from a standard stunt saber to one with sound?
I have a V3 initiate that I would like to put sound into but dont want to mess it up.

Thanks!


Everything you need is right here.
http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=7466.0 (http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=7466.0)


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Tol Freeman on June 05, 2014, 08:13:09 PM

Blade downswitch from heavy grade to mid-grade for a better lightsaber.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: dean_s2 on June 06, 2014, 03:14:50 AM
I'm completely new to this forum but am crazy excited about building a custom saber.  I have 2 Master replica sabers, Anakin's graflix and his chosen one.  I want my own though.  I have questions.  The response I see from the basic build question is helpful.  I have a few pieces I have chosen to possibly use: Shock body, Archon emitter & neck, War Glaive pommel, Obsidian sound board, Anti vandal momentary switch, 4x battery pack.  Will these components work together?  Do you need to buy the obsidian sound board for sound or is there another less expensive option.  How do you choose a blade?.....So many questions.....  :'(


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: sedstiskyfaller on June 06, 2014, 03:31:11 AM
I'm completely new to this forum but am crazy excited about building a custom saber.  I have 2 Master replica sabers, Anakin's graflix and his chosen one.  I want my own though.  I have questions.  The response I see from the basic build question is helpful.  I have a few pieces I have chosen to possibly use: Shock body, Archon emitter & neck, War Glaive pommel, Obsidian sound board, Anti vandal momentary switch, 4x battery pack.  Will these components work together?  Do you need to buy the obsidian sound board for sound or is there another less expensive option.  How do you choose a blade?.....So many questions.....  :'(

I know it can feel overwhelming, but don't fret! Everything you listed will work except you need a two AA battery pack for Li-ion batteries to use the soundboard. The Obsidian is the only soundboard US offers and it is great. The blade should be chosen based on the color LED you plan on using and the strength you want it to be.

Here is a thread on blade types: http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=3096.0 (http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=3096.0)

I wish you luck on your project!


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Master Bluespike74 on June 06, 2014, 01:51:48 PM
I'm completely new to this forum but am crazy excited about building a custom saber.  I have 2 Master replica sabers, Anakin's graflix and his chosen one.  I want my own though.  I have questions.  The response I see from the basic build question is helpful.  I have a few pieces I have chosen to possibly use: Shock body, Archon emitter & neck, War Glaive pommel, Obsidian sound board, Anti vandal momentary switch, 4x battery pack.  Will these components work together?  Do you need to buy the obsidian sound board for sound or is there another less expensive option.  How do you choose a blade?.....So many questions.....  :'(


I am a DIY builder.  I prefer to use Ultrasaber parts on my Ultrasabers.  I have ventured outside the box at times in order to experiment.  I have a huge list of DIY videos on my YouTube Channel that will help you begin your journey.  I'll even provide the link to a conversion from stunt to sound that I did with an Obsidian to give you a starting point. 
http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=7466.0 (http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=7466.0)

As a friendly reminder, be sure to read the rules section of the forum and post an acknowledgement there.  Since this forum is run by Ultrasabers and the upkeep is paid by their company, they have asked that we not discuss products outside their own with a rare exception.  Everyone here will be more than happy to help you on your journey to construct your very own lightsaber though.  Keep in mind that my style (or other's) may not be the same as yours.  The end game is for you to be happy with your saber.

Blue



Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Tol Freeman on June 27, 2014, 09:21:38 PM
You need 4 Ni batteries and Yari spike plus a split double-bladed lightsaber to make an electostaff.

(http://forums.ultrasabers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4508)
(http://narwath.tripod.com/cgi-bin/electrostaff.jpg)


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: jyn-toar on October 03, 2014, 06:28:30 PM
Okay people...here it goes.
First off, this probably would not be happening in the near future.  But it's good to dream, right?
I have one saber.  One.  It's a Mace Windu hilt converted by the other guys to be battle-ready.  It has sound and a functioning LED.
My question is: could I gut this saber and keep all the parts, but put them into an ultrasaber?  Cause I'm not a huge fan of how the saber handles.
I can think of a few problems with this.
First, there is a recharge port built into the pommel.  I don't have a clue as to how much damage I might do just by removing the pommel.
Second, I've never taken apart a saber before and this was converted with a custom chassis.
Third, I put resin in the joints to keep stuff from moving around when I dueled (because the entire hilt was a pressure-fit system with the emmitter and pommel holding everything together).
Again, this would not be anything that would happen in the near future.  Just curious as to whether or not it could be done.
Oh yeah; there are two switches; an auxiliary and a power switch.  PLEASE tell me there's a way to wire that into a single switch.
Thanks in advance!


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: James Casey on October 29, 2014, 12:45:19 PM
So, I'm thinking of building from scratch on my next order...

Looking through this thread and others on here, it seems like it might be possible for me to do it all myself (:o) but I'll be spending more time reading topics and watching videos before I commit to anything.

Still, at present my planned purchase is this:

- Shock body, emitter, and pommel (Probably. I like all-silver hilts.)
- Silver or unlit AV switch (I need to check with US they sell these, also that they can widen the hole in the hilt before shipping.)
- Soundboard
- Battery pack/speaker
- Batteries
- Other stuff I may be missing. Seems like I'm missing something, but I'm writing this from memory.

Would I need to pick up spare wire, or will there be enough shipped with the parts to be going on with?

I also need to work out what resistors will be necessary, if any, and where they'd have to go.

I already have several spare MLS units and sets of quick disconnects, so don't need to buy one of those to go with the order. I do need a blade, but that'd be dependent on how much extra it'd add to the shipping.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Relan Tarel jedi kinght on October 29, 2014, 01:39:10 PM
So, I'm thinking of building from scratch on my next order...

Looking through this thread and others on here, it seems like it might be possible for me to do it all myself (:o) but I'll be spending more time reading topics and watching videos before I commit to anything.



Still, at present my planned purchase is this:

- Shock body, emitter, and pommel (Probably. I like all-silver hilts.)
- Silver or unlit AV switch (I need to check with US they sell these, also that they can widen the hole in the hilt before shipping.)
- Soundboard
- Battery pack/speaker
- Batteries
- Other stuff I may be missing. Seems like I'm missing something, but I'm writing this from memory.

Would I need to pick up spare wire, or will there be enough shipped with the parts to be going on with?

I also need to work out what resistors will be necessary, if any, and where they'd have to go.

I already have several spare MLS units and sets of quick disconnects, so don't need to buy one of those to go with the order. I do need a blade, but that'd be dependent on how much extra it'd add to the shipping.

Your missing the buck puck. Other than i think your list is all there


An easy way to do it is to order the saber as normal and in the coments section write " please send disassembled " that way you get all the parts needed and the hole for the switch is the right size. Before you do you should email emory at [email protected] just to be sure.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: James Casey on October 29, 2014, 08:23:42 PM
Good point, thanks!


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: TheDon10 on December 23, 2014, 07:43:07 AM
Okay, So. I am another brand new person to this scene. I am planning on building my first saber in the near future, and I see lots of posts here, But to be honest, Im a better learner by sight. I have to see something being done to really figure out how to do it myself, generally speaking anyways. I have never really done much soldering, but I understand the basics, so if I can just view it being done, that would be all I need for that aspect of my needs. I was wondering if :

1.) if anybody has already, or would be willing to film a video of them constructing their lightsabers, that way I can see how to do it myself.

2.) Has anybody found a good quality Curved saber body that I could use to build a custom saber.

3.) anybody can share links or sources with possible parts/places to find parts for what I may be able to add to my saber, including those outside of UltraSabers if there are other options of good quality.

4.) if anybody could share with me the list of all the components I will need to purchase. Thank you SO MUCH.

Sincerely,

TheDon10

Now I'd like it to be known that I want to have this saber sound compatible, so I can add something like Obsidian into it when I have the funds available. Also I want to be able to add the Emerald Software into it when I have the Funds. I don't mind starting it out as a basic Stunt saber, but I do want it to be capable of adding the upgrades I listed above.

Can anybody help me with any of this ?? As much information as you can give me would mean a great deal to me.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: TheDon10 on December 23, 2014, 07:49:38 AM
Also, Just wanted to add.

My ideal saber would be something like a cross of Mace Windu's Saber with Dooku's curved blade but with a blade holder something like the Reaper, made by UltraSabers, and a fairly plain pommel is fine by me. Just in case that helps


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: TheDon10 on December 23, 2014, 10:35:41 AM
Also, Just wondering, is it possible to add the emerald Usb to a custom saber ? Or is there another/better product that anybody can suggest to put in to a custom saber.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Darth Obi Don on January 25, 2015, 08:32:50 PM
Okay, So. I am another brand new person to this scene. I am planning on building my first saber in the near future, and I see lots of posts here, But to be honest, Im a better learner by sight. I have to see something being done to really figure out how to do it myself, generally speaking anyways. I have never really done much soldering, but I understand the basics, so if I can just view it being done, that would be all I need for that aspect of my needs. I was wondering if :

1.) if anybody has already, or would be willing to film a video of them constructing their lightsabers, that way I can see how to do it myself.

2.) Has anybody found a good quality Curved saber body that I could use to build a custom saber.

3.) anybody can share links or sources with possible parts/places to find parts for what I may be able to add to my saber, including those outside of UltraSabers if there are other options of good quality.

4.) if anybody could share with me the list of all the components I will need to purchase. Thank you SO MUCH.

Sincerely,

TheDon10

Now I'd like it to be known that I want to have this saber sound compatible, so I can add something like Obsidian into it when I have the funds available. Also I want to be able to add the Emerald Software into it when I have the Funds. I don't mind starting it out as a basic Stunt saber, but I do want it to be capable of adding the upgrades I listed above.

Can anybody help me with any of this ?? As much information as you can give me would mean a great deal to me.

1. Check out this vid. They use TCSS parts but Ultrasabers has all the parts you will need too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOAVTwOEWDs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOAVTwOEWDs)
3 and 4. The Custom Saber Shop TCSS has MHS parts that are compatible with Ultrasabers .
             The TCSS forum has tutorials on how to build stunt and sound sabers.
             Ultrasabers has all the parts you need in their Build you own lightsaber section here.
http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/84.htm (http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/84.htm)
Have fun.
Don



Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Darth Obi Don on January 25, 2015, 09:14:16 PM
This set of Vids may help as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOpUSCsXXhk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOpUSCsXXhk)
Don


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Kyo Pendragon on February 08, 2015, 07:44:11 AM
Hi this is my first time here and I was wanting to know how difficult is it to build your own light saber? And can you build the hilt and outside to look exactly the way you want from scratch?


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Master Bluespike74 on March 14, 2015, 09:06:16 PM
Hi this is my first time here and I was wanting to know how difficult is it to build your own light saber? And can you build the hilt and outside to look exactly the way you want from scratch?

Welcome. Yes you can but it is very expensive because most people use aluminum and a lathe to cut aluminum is very expensive. I have seen some really great PVC designs over the years that are much easier to work with. I know a guy that has used Curved Electrical Grade PVC and made a beautiful Ventress saber. He installed electronics to make it a stunt saber and he is a PITA to fight with.

The great thing about PVC is that it does not get cold in winter, is less likely to experience a short circuit, and if you purchase the right size, you can use US parts for the internals.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Griffon on April 28, 2015, 04:19:16 AM
I am considering using the Manticore as the basis for a self built upgrade.  Adding momentary AV switch with momentary to latching converter.  Maybe switch to 18650 power supply.

If anyone has experience with the Manticore for mods I would appreciate communicating direct to discuss.   
Please drop a note and I will contact you back.

Thanks

Griffon


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: kiltannen on June 23, 2015, 06:34:29 AM
I've been thinking about doing a custom build with my own hilt - but I don't see how to order a blade AND I'd really prefer to order an Emerald driver.  Is there something I'm missing? Or are they not available for us to buy as parts?..


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Groovidad on June 26, 2015, 06:36:33 AM
I've been thinking about doing a custom build with my own hilt - but I don't see how to order a blade AND I'd really prefer to order an Emerald driver.  Is there something I'm missing? Or are they not available for us to buy as parts?..

You can't order a Emerald driver from US.  Educate yourself on the ways of ordering from US.  Go to their "Build Your Own Saber" section.  There is another site to order parts from but, you must PM me for that.  My respect for US runs deep!  Let me know.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Talonghoul on October 29, 2015, 06:21:51 AM
Hello, i have an idea that i require someone with knowledge of building their own sabers, i want to make a dual pike but also have it so i can detach either both or just one from it if it's even possible.
Anyone who can help or wants to email me at [email protected]
Thanks


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: alexRobillard on December 09, 2015, 02:46:17 AM
So I am planning on building a double bladed saber. What will I need extra? I'm assuming hilts, but what to connect them? What are the extras I'll need when creating a double bladed saber in contrast to a single bladed saber? Very helpful info also on the tutorial!


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Groovidad on December 09, 2015, 05:33:13 PM
So I am planning on building a double bladed saber. What will I need extra? I'm assuming hilts, but what to connect them? What are the extras I'll need when creating a double bladed saber in contrast to a single bladed saber? Very helpful info also on the tutorial!

Are you trying to build a saber with blades parallel to each other?  I've not seen anyone build such a saber yet, it is not unthinkable, obviously.  "IF" that is what your after, you would have to build an emitter with 2 blade holders.  The weight of such a build would have to be counterbalanced and the threading of the emitter to the hilt body would have to run at least an inch for stability.

"IF" you are speaking of a saber staff then go to the US site and explore their offerings.  Everything you would require can be found there.

Hope that I gave some assistance. :)


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Bushido jedi on December 25, 2015, 05:58:43 AM
Where do you find the 24" blades?


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Stovepipez on January 18, 2016, 05:55:02 AM
So I am sitting here lavishing love on my Renegade, while in the back of my head I am thinking how sweet it would be to swap out the emitter for the dark war glove emitter. 


The problem is I have no idea if they will swap.  I searched around but could not find the required info.  Anyone out here know?

Thanks
Dave



Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: findisaiah on January 25, 2016, 08:23:40 PM
Can I use a  blade from the other guys with a ultra saber hilt?


Title: Re: how to change the led on an ultrasaber
Post by: Spades on January 25, 2016, 08:43:59 PM
yes if your blade is 1 inch thick


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: findisaiah on January 26, 2016, 03:23:47 PM
All I have is a blade what exactly do I need to build a saber with a red blade?


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Spades on January 26, 2016, 04:12:56 PM
All I have is a blade what exactly do I need to build a saber with a red blade?

I have answered this 3 times for you now in the form of links and resources and I think Dark Scrub has as well at least once. Quiet your mind and focus your attention.

you will need:
a body, and emitter, a pommel
a button to turn it on, an LED module, abattery set up, a buckpuck or resistors, a speaker if it has sound, a sound board if it has sound.

dig through your recent posts by clicking on your profile at the top of this page then finding the link to see recent posts. (at the bottom of the page) and find the links I am talking about.

Best wishes friend.



Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: KraytDragonPearl on April 10, 2016, 01:41:37 AM
Can I use a blade from the other guys with a ultra saber hilt?


Based on the number of posts that you have I can see that you are new to the Forum,  please refrain from mentioning another saber manufacturer on this forum.  It is not polite and furthermore its against forum rules.  we simply refer them as "the other guys".  I hope the other forum members have been helpful in answering your questions regarding the parts that you need to create your dream saber.  

MTFBWY

KDP  


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: shade_1313 on July 10, 2016, 11:32:20 PM
Anyone know what US uses to attach the sound board to the battery/speaker pack?  They're clearly attached, but the epoxy that I tried didn't adhere to the battery/speaker pack.  If not US's method, how have you done it?


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Sabourok on January 21, 2017, 01:28:32 AM
I am relatively new to the forum and so I am still going to search other threads, but this seemed as good a place as any to ask. If I was looking to make a blade that does the flash-on-clash effect, are there any additional or specific parts I would require?

Also does the Obsidian V4 soundboard have a motion detector for when the blade moves? I hope I am not simply blind and overlooked mention of such a feature. Electronics in general are a foreign language to me, though I am looking to learn as much as I can for my first build.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: shade_1313 on January 21, 2017, 02:03:25 AM
I am relatively new to the forum and so I am still going to search other threads, but this seemed as good a place as any to ask. If I was looking to make a blade that does the flash-on-clash effect, are there any additional or specific parts I would require?

Also does the Obsidian V4 soundboard have a motion detector for when the blade moves? I hope I am not simply blind and overlooked mention of such a feature. Electronics in general are a foreign language to me, though I am looking to learn as much as I can for my first build.

Usually, an RGBW LED is used for FoC, plus wires and such, of course.  Ultrasabers does sell LED units that are prewired for FoC, in fact, making it a bit easier.  That said, the RGBW LED approach does have some drawbacks in terms of what flashes can go with what blade color, so bear that in mind.

While I haven't tried it, there are LED boards (that is, the star shaped circuit board that the LED dies are actually mounted to) that are made up of different combinations than the RGBW, but that will take a little more work to put together.  Also, you may need resistors depending on what colors or mixes you're looking to do, exactly.

The Obsidian boards do include motion detectors.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Sabourok on January 22, 2017, 02:15:57 AM
Ultrasabers does sell LED units that are prewired for FoC, in fact, making it a bit easier. 

I am currently working with an arctic blue LED unit from Ultrasaber, which is "made with multicolor RGB LEDs and combining two diodes to create the Blade Color."

I am assuming it is capable of FoC since it specifies that Tri-diode options are not compatible with FoC. I don't see the point of that being specified if the other options weren't compatible.


The Obsidian boards do include motion detectors.

This is very reassuring, thank you. I was unable to find explicit mention as such so I did not think my assumption would be safe to hold unconfirmed.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Benji on January 23, 2017, 03:39:45 PM
I am currently working with an arctic blue LED unit from Ultrasaber, which is "made with multicolor RGB LEDs and combining two diodes to create the Blade Color."

I am assuming it is capable of FoC since it specifies that Tri-diode options are not compatible with FoC. I don't see the point of that being specified if the other options weren't compatible.


This is very reassuring, thank you. I was unable to find explicit mention as such so I did not think my assumption would be safe to hold unconfirmed.


Arctic Blue can have a silver FOC. There's a chart of the available FOC colors for each color here http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=3652.0

If you didn't order the LED with FOC enabled, then you will likely have to modify the LED to enable the FOC... And I have no idea how to do that, but I know it can be done as others have done it before.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Sabourok on January 23, 2017, 07:21:28 PM
Hopefully the last question I'll need to ask. I've recently found out about heat shrink being needed for soldering wires. What size heat shrink should I be looking for? The first page I see reference to using wire gauges 24, 26 or 28, but heat shrinks don't really tell what gauge they shrink to fit and the charts I find leave me spinning.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: jedi06 on February 24, 2017, 01:46:08 AM
Maybe I did my math wrong but it seems like it is cheaper to just buy the saber already made than to do a DIY from ulrasabers.  Anybody else notice this?


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Darth Knox on February 24, 2017, 03:42:54 AM
Maybe I did my math wrong but it seems like it is cheaper to just buy the saber already made than to do a DIY from ulrasabers.  Anybody else notice this?
Possibly. But imagine the satisfaction derived from having a saber that you can say you built yourself. Plus, if you wanted to upgrade/customise the saber it helps if you've already done a DIY build so you know what you're doing.

But, if budget is a concern, buying a ready built saber is probably the best way to go.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Benji on February 24, 2017, 09:31:48 PM
Maybe I did my math wrong but it seems like it is cheaper to just buy the saber already made than to do a DIY from ulrasabers.  Anybody else notice this?

True, I've run the math multiple times. To do a DIY saber with all US parts is more expensive.

The cost difference, though, (in my opinion) is negligible compared to the feeling of having a saber that I built with my own hands.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Anger_fear_aggro---OH MY on April 01, 2017, 11:33:30 PM
Well first off, you won't anger anyone on here for asking questions lol. We're pretty easy going group here. As to what you need, it's dependent on what you're looking for. If you're looking for a stunt build (no sound), then you'll want this list:

Body
Emitter
Pommel
(Note - Some bodies don't have interchangeable emitters)
Latching Switch
Battery pack
Batteries
Battery charger
LED
Blade

Here are some links for you:

Complete hilts - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/78.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/78.htm[/url])
Bodies only - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/90.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/90.htm[/url])
Emitters only - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/88.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/88.htm[/url])
Pommels only - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/86.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/86.htm[/url])
Battery Pack/speaker combo - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-sound-aacombo.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-sound-aacombo.htm[/url])
Obsidian board - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-sound-obsidianusb3.0.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-sound-obsidianusb3.0.htm[/url])
Batteries and charger - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-battcharcombo.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-battcharcombo.htm[/url])
BuckPuck - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-buckpuck1000.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-buckpuck1000.htm[/url])
LED module for V2 hilts - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/led%20module.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/led%20module.htm[/url])
LED module for all other hilts - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/mls.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/mls.htm[/url])
Latching switch - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-guardedlatching.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-guardedlatching.htm[/url])
Momentary switch - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-guardedmomentary.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-guardedmomentary.htm[/url])
Mid-grade blades - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/MG-Blade-p/blades-mid.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/MG-Blade-p/blades-mid.htm[/url])
Which of these would I need if I fried my internals but have everything else?  Dominix V2

I got it from the grab bag, and weathered my saber to my content, but since I didn't want to risk taking it out the wrong way (I'm not remotely mechanical), I decided to soak half of it with all the parts inside aaand thus water+chemicals seeped somehow (even though the bottom was tight, it penetrated somewhere and poured out the emitter end).


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Benji on April 05, 2017, 06:05:22 PM
Which of these would I need if I fried my internals but have everything else?  Dominix V2

I got it from the grab bag, and weathered my saber to my content, but since I didn't want to risk taking it out the wrong way (I'm not remotely mechanical), I decided to soak half of it with all the parts inside aaand thus water+chemicals seeped somehow (even though the bottom was tight, it penetrated somewhere and poured out the emitter end).

Ouch. Well, if you are looking to replace all the internals, exactly as they were, then you will need latching switch, battery pack, batteries, LED and a resistor along with the wire necessary to put it all together.

On the other hand, you could take it apart (you'll have to to replace the internals anyways) and carefully test to see if anything is salvagable (perhaps the wires themselves and, if you're lucky, the LED unit survived). Then go from there.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: CL727 on April 21, 2017, 08:57:35 PM
Need Some Help,

Trying to customize my Archon v3 to make it look like the V2 ROTJ.   I have a graflex clamp but the hilt is to wide and I have a short stem and I can't connect these 2 together. I'm very close to finishing this product. I have been to wannawanga, tried pastorjedisabers, and have gotten nowhere. I would appreciate some help. Thanks.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Anger_fear_aggro---OH MY on May 06, 2017, 04:10:49 AM
Ouch. Well, if you are looking to replace all the internals, exactly as they were, then you will need latching switch, battery pack, batteries, LED and a resistor along with the wire necessary to put it all together.

On the other hand, you could take it apart (you'll have to to replace the internals anyways) and carefully test to see if anything is salvagable (perhaps the wires themselves and, if you're lucky, the LED unit survived). Then go from there.
Thanks for the response.

After it fully dried, I tested it out and noticed it still turns on, it's just extremely dim.  Since it was a grab bag, and I wanted red but was trying to save money, could I just get a new red LED and be fine?  Since it turned on, I assume everything else is normal/operable.  Might even be the batteries...?

P.S. I cannot open my hilt from the bottom.  Let's just say the weathering was so legit, the metal fused in some parts.  I lack a power saw of any sorts and knives are utterly useless since melded aluminum isn't easy to cut.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Benji on May 08, 2017, 09:27:48 PM
Thanks for the response.

After it fully dried, I tested it out and noticed it still turns on, it's just extremely dim.  Since it was a grab bag, and I wanted red but was trying to save money, could I just get a new red LED and be fine?  Since it turned on, I assume everything else is normal/operable.  Might even be the batteries...?

P.S. I cannot open my hilt from the bottom.  Let's just say the weathering was so legit, the metal fused in some parts.  I lack a power saw of any sorts and knives are utterly useless since melded aluminum isn't easy to cut.
Sorry I'm just now seeing this, I haven't touched the forums since May 3. Life has kept me busy.

You could just get a new red LED and test that, it might be fine. You are going to have to find a way to replace those batteries, though. Then see what happens.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: A_Tang on July 31, 2017, 05:09:15 PM
I have two US sabers:

1) Dominix V3 with light and Obsidian lite sound and non-lit AV switch
2) Consular with tri-LED w/ the quick disconnect feature and a guarded switch ( I believe it was called a stunt-saber on the US site)

Is it possible for me to transplant the Obsidian lite soundboard/AAA battery holder/speaker module from my Dominix to my Consular? I'm able and willing to re-solder wiring (and install some connectors if need be) to do this but I'm having trouble finding a wiring diagram.

Also, I'm assuming that I don't need to transplant the LED module - am I correct?

Thanks
AT



Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: K1LL3RC0ACH96 on August 31, 2017, 01:12:27 AM
Alright, so here we go.
I am a new builder and I was wanting to know something about the battery pack that might sound like a newbie question (but there's no shame here cause I am one ;D)
When it comes to the battery packs, (if I wanted a saber with sound) does the holder/speaker hook to the LED for the blade ,or do I need to do 2 separate batteries holders for that?
 
Thank you for your time everyone!


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: K1LL3RC0ACH96 on August 31, 2017, 01:31:20 AM
Also, when it comes to blade length, what would be an appropriate size if I am getting the malice emitter?

Thanks


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Badkarma on January 20, 2018, 08:01:55 PM
Well first off, you won't anger anyone on here for asking questions lol. We're pretty easy going group here. As to what you need, it's dependent on what you're looking for. If you're looking for a stunt build (no sound), then you'll want this list:

Body
Emitter
Pommel
(Note - Some bodies don't have interchangeable emitters)
Latching Switch
Battery pack
Batteries
Battery charger
LED
Blade

If you want sound, then you need all of the above except:

Battery pack/speaker combo
Obsidian soundboard
Momentary switch
Resistor (I recommend BuckPuck)

Here are some links for you:

Complete hilts - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/78.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/78.htm[/url])
Bodies only - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/90.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/90.htm[/url])
Emitters only - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/88.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/88.htm[/url])
Pommels only - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/86.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/86.htm[/url])
Battery Pack/speaker combo - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-sound-aacombo.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-sound-aacombo.htm[/url])
Obsidian board - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-sound-obsidianusb3.0.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-sound-obsidianusb3.0.htm[/url])
Batteries and charger - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-battcharcombo.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-battcharcombo.htm[/url])
BuckPuck - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-buckpuck1000.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-buckpuck1000.htm[/url])
LED module for V2 hilts - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/led%20module.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/led%20module.htm[/url])
LED module for all other hilts - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/mls.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/mls.htm[/url])
Latching switch - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-guardedlatching.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-guardedlatching.htm[/url])
Momentary switch - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-guardedmomentary.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-guardedmomentary.htm[/url])
Mid-grade blades - [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/MG-Blade-p/blades-mid.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/MG-Blade-p/blades-mid.htm[/url])


This is great information! Not sure if I'm going to buy my next saber or build it. I can only imagine the rewarding feeling of seeing your very own saber come to life.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: SimmplyGimmply on January 22, 2018, 12:51:55 AM
Not a problem at all! Hope it helped! Mind if I ask what you're planning to build for the saber? Also, are you going sound or stunt? Be sure to ask if you need anything else for help. I know there are a bunch of talented people here who are willing to help, and I'm getting pretty good with building 'em myself. Don't want to toot my own horn too much, but I can walk you through quite a bit.

Im also new to this! I was wondering can any saber (I have ordered a myster box) have a soundboard installed? Granted I am not sure if I have gotten lucky and gotten a sound saber yet.. but in the event that I dont I might want to upgrade it later!

Let the power of the Darkness takeover!


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Therion Jinn on January 22, 2018, 01:57:04 AM
Alright, so here we go.
I am a new builder and I was wanting to know something about the battery pack that might sound like a newbie question (but there's no shame here cause I am one ;D)
When it comes to the battery packs, (if I wanted a saber with sound) does the holder/speaker hook to the LED for the blade ,or do I need to do 2 separate batteries holders for that?
 
Thank you for your time everyone!
LED unit is wired through the Soundboard on the Obsidian chips. Only one set of batteries needed


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: golem1357 on February 13, 2018, 10:21:47 PM
i have recently tried purchased some parts to build a lightsaber, and when i did i didn't realize i needed a latching switch and i ended up getting a momentary switch because i have no sound. i was wondering if there was a way to make it work, and if so how would i have to do it (wiring diagram would be nice).


Title: Re: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: tx_tuff on February 13, 2018, 11:54:35 PM
i have recently tried purchased some parts to build a lightsaber, and when i did i didn't realize i needed a latching switch and i ended up getting a momentary switch because i have no sound. i was wondering if there was a way to make it work, and if so how would i have to do it (wiring diagram would be nice).
Try and research, many things will go into this and none of us can just tell you how with the info provided.

The answer is yes, but you will need other parts. So another company that sells a board separate that is just for that reason. Saw it on YouTube while looking around.

The easiest way is to just order the right switch.

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Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Andel-Thön on June 10, 2018, 10:43:22 PM
Out of curiosity why would you use a buck Puck instead of a basic resistor? A resistor would be a simpler system. What is the benefit to using the puck instead of a resistor and if you were to use a resistor what resistance would it need to be in ohms? My stunt saber came with a resistor rather than a puck is why I'm asking.
This is great information! Not sure if I'm going to buy my next saber or build it. I can only imagine the rewarding feeling of seeing your very own saber come to life.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: ollivander_apprentice on June 16, 2018, 10:27:30 AM
Hi all,

Long time listener, first time caller.

I've got a saber from US previously, and love it - it recently made a cameo as an attention-grabbing prop at a Star Wars themed wedding, quite a few guests might be looking one of their own soon. However, I've finally convinced myself to have a go at building a saber. I am in the fortunate situation that I have access to CNC and 3D printing at work, as well as an understanding boss. I have an idea in mind to pack all the electronics into a metal cylinder, and then machine a shroud to surround it. Could anyone give me some insight into the recommended internal diameter needed to comfortably house the electronics (to be sourced from US), as well as recommended length.

Also, what sized hole and thread would be needed to install the momentary switch, and what thread should I tap into the ends to screw in a US Battery pack/speaker combo and Emitter - are these threads standard for all US pieces?

If I could impose on your generosity a little longer to sanity check a component list for the electronics if I want sound and lighting, does the following sound like a complete Build of Materials?

Emitter
Pommel
Batter pack / speaker combo
Obsidian card
LED module (any recommendation on the best colour that could be described as yellow?)
Momentary switch
BuckPuck
Blade

Many thanks all, looking forward to the future sweet sound of an activating saber.



Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Dauntless Seven on June 17, 2018, 06:35:47 PM
Hi.  This sounds like an epic first project.  Before we start answering your questions... have you at all considered looking at the complete empty hilt packages or individual build your own saber parts on the US sales site ?  Your very first customization/build experience should be fun versus worrysome and a more easy to complete project without damaging pieces sometimes beyond repair/useability.  Blown sound boards can be costly.  You could create a 3D shroud and other decorative modifications.

Let us know if you are a newbie or an experienced at finer soldering, electronics, tap & drill, retention screws, threading, dremel, etc.  :)


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: ollivander_apprentice on June 19, 2018, 06:27:09 PM
Hi.  This sounds like an epic first project.  Before we start answering your questions... have you at all considered looking at the complete empty hilt packages or individual build your own saber parts on the US sales site ?  Your very first customization/build experience should be fun versus worrysome and a more easy to complete project without damaging pieces sometimes beyond repair/useability.  Blown sound boards can be costly.  You could create a 3D shroud and other decorative modifications.

Let us know if you are a newbie or an experienced at finer soldering, electronics, tap & drill, retention screws, threading, dremel, etc.  :)

Hi Dauntless,

Many thanks for the insights. My expertise with soldering and electronics would be light, and dremel would be nil. To be honest, building a saber was a testbed to learn and develop electronics and machining with a fun end-goal to keep me focused. My colleagues at work are all deeply experienced engineers, and I am swapping biochemistry lessons for engineering lessons.

However, your point about enjoying the first build is well taken. I would be well amenable to focusing on the machining aspects of the shroud rather than the electronics aspects until my soldering and electron control skills develop. Is there a plain hilt you would recommend that can be supplied with all the electronics packed in, but is as plain and narrow as possible to enable it to be encased in an outer shroud without creating an outer diameter akin to a can of beans?

It would still be useful to know the recommend internal diameter of the electronics housing, and appropriate threads, as I hope to ultimately build something from scratch in the future, but will first need to build it in a 3D CAD software package.

Deeply appreciate all insights and advice,

Many thanks!!


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Dauntless Seven on June 20, 2018, 08:50:20 PM
Hi.  Sorry but can only reply briefly to this today due to time constraints... but there are lots of alternative saber choices.  You need to look at what US has to offer and perhaps start out with a more streamlined basic designed hilt that you can visualize creating, fitting and attaching a 3D for example shroud on to.  Something like the Aeon/Dominix/Initiate v3 line or a Standard Battle Issue.  Even a Prophecy.  Just note that these sabers are MHS compatible for the pommel end only and not also for exchanging the emitter.  All are really good to use first sabers and quite popular.

Hopefully others will comment.  Also check out the Customizations and Gallery sections for more ideas.  :)


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Infinit01 on June 21, 2018, 05:10:08 PM
Out of curiosity why would you use a buck Puck instead of a basic resistor? A resistor would be a simpler system. What is the benefit to using the puck instead of a resistor and if you were to use a resistor what resistance would it need to be in ohms? My stunt saber came with a resistor rather than a puck is why I'm asking.

The resistor will provide less stable, less accurate, and just less function than a buckpuck which can do more


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Therion Jinn on June 22, 2018, 02:53:07 AM
One of the biggest things a buckpuck gives is a steady light intensity over the life of the batteries


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: SilverFieldWolf on August 27, 2018, 05:19:26 AM
Would you guys suggest buying a Lightsaber before you build your own?

Also, I can't seem to find any info about the different types of blades and what they're for. Could someone give me a quick summary? or maybe point me where I can find that info?
I'm wanting to make (or buy) The least expensive Lightsaber that's strong for dueling. I kind of just want to see if dueling and fight choreography is something I want to get into before I spend a lot of money or time into a really nice Saber.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Lord_S_Gray on August 27, 2018, 06:04:01 AM
Would you guys suggest buying a Lightsaber before you build your own?

Also, I can't seem to find any info about the different types of blades and what they're for. Could someone give me a quick summary? or maybe point me where I can find that info?
I'm wanting to make (or buy) The least expensive Lightsaber that's strong for dueling. I kind of just want to see if dueling and fight choreography is something I want to get into before I spend a lot of money or time into a really nice Saber.

Hi Silverfieldwolf!

Based on your last paragraph  wanting to see if you're into it i would suggest buying a stunt sabre (ie one without sound) before getting a higher end one or building your own which can be pricey especially if you want sound as in addition to lights you need to buy and install a soundboard.

Ultrasabers has some great basic hilts like the Sentinel, Aeon and Dominix varieties that are under $100 USD to get set up without sound, just choose your color and a heavy grade blade and your good. If you want sound too the lite sound option is fairly inexpensive and really good as well.

For something strong for duelling you want to get an Ultrasabre with a Heavy Grade Blade - I think this answers your question re blade types - essentially heavy grade is tougher than regular mid grade is is great for dueling - i can attest you can bash two heavy grades together or against door frames no problem.  Ultraedge in blade type just refers to the type of plastic used, if you look on the screen when selecting the type of sabre you want there is an explanation for all four type US offer just choose a sabre and flick through the screens as if you were ordering to get to it.

Definitely start with buying something simple though, you'll get an excellent product straight from US and not have to worry about piecing it together and messing up the wires.  If you find you enjoy it then you can move up to a more premium sabre (e.g Guardian or Emeprors Hand Type) or consider building your own if you have some skill in electronics - but for first time definantely just buy one one outright to find out what you don/don't like about it. Worst coms to worst and you don't enjoy playing round with it you'll still have a cool sabre to put in a display cabinet that didn't cost the world.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Aaronstar on December 11, 2018, 11:27:30 AM
just to confirm do i have all i need for internals, or am i missing something, do i have something i dont need?
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Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Infinit01 on December 11, 2018, 11:39:59 AM
Get rid of the AAA battery holder since the premium board needs the 14500 and you already have the 14500 combo added.  Everything else looks good


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Aaronstar on December 11, 2018, 11:48:33 AM
o, so the universal battery charger is an internal component, not an external accessory that you put the batteries into to recharge? good to know. i needed the battery holder and speaker combo which i did not see at first. also how much can the obsidian sound board configure the led, like pulsing and changing color, or would i need to get my hands on the emerald for that?

also, do i need 2 batteries or 4?

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/510495958698819616/522124898676768768/Untitled.png)


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Infinit01 on December 11, 2018, 12:01:09 PM
Hey there, the soundboard can only enable/disable pulse, enable/disable FOC and of course sound.  If you want to change color, the Emerald driver or Diamond Controllers are what you want. Both will have to be purchased through building a hilt as US doesn't sell them as parts.  The up side is that the Diamond Controller has the Obsidian V4 built into it whereas you have to add sound to the Emerald which still costs and takes up more room within the saber.


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: Aaronstar on December 11, 2018, 12:29:20 PM
if i were to add in my own recharge port instead of removing the batteries, what would i need? i already have the hole for it...

also, this may be a long shot but could i recharge the batteries through the obsidian usb?


Title: Re: Basic Build Guide Request (New Builder)
Post by: DahliaTalon on January 03, 2021, 12:46:59 AM
Hi all,
I an a noob and could use some help!
I 3D printed Darth Talon's hilt (because I can't find her saber anywhere), however now I'm completely stumped on what pieces I still need to purchase.... I did see the list with links but would appreciate some specifics
Thank you!