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« Reply #105 on: December 17, 2019, 12:52:48 AM »

Yeah I agree about the Twi’leks. They bothered me. The characterization was fine but the look was wrong.

I thought the Gungan joke was kinda funny. Some of the other things I didn’t catch or didn’t bother me enough t worry over. Though I tend to let a lot of things just go in the Starwars universe.


Heads up in case you haven’t heard. Episode 7 will be dropping on Wednesday instead of Friday. Supposedly so it won’t compete with the movie. Plus I guess it will have a special sneak peak at the movie. Some people are saying it also has a tie-in but as far as I have read that’s just rumor.
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« Reply #106 on: December 17, 2019, 02:27:38 AM »

My 2 cents..............since this is being targeted for all audiences, my guess is that they want good characters to look nice/pretty and the bad characters to look sly/evil. So the kids can tell who's the baddies vs goodies.

Not sure why they had pointed teeth, unless they filed them down to be more intimidating looking. Many cultures on Earth did that too.

Another line: The twilike (slaves) shown in the original movies (dancers, etc), to ME, were bred for the look/athleticism - by their owners. In the prequels, most shown were Jedi, so as the "good guys" were shown in a better light.
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« Reply #107 on: December 17, 2019, 09:05:40 AM »

YAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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« Reply #108 on: December 17, 2019, 05:16:16 PM »

When you squeeze it, Its just Mando's exasperated sigh /s

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I knew you would notice it  Grin

Well I had read your post before seeing it, so I know to pay attention for it. My money is on Mayfeld is an ex Scout Trooper.



Yeah I agree about the Twi’leks. They bothered me. The characterization was fine but the look was wrong.

About the characterization: Xi'an's perpetual hissing, is what bothered me. Coupled with the fangs, the performance was more akin to vampire than anything else.

Concerning the look: I'm particularly let down that even since Filoni uber-fanboy-ed on TCW and modeled ALL Twi'lek off what is seen in Jabba's palace, we've been stuck with ugly males with bulbous heads and sharp teeth. Case is point: Cham Syndulla.



And now is just as good a time as any to point out the inconsistency of Twi'lek female horns. The original, Oola, was wearing a headdress that had horn shaped covers over her ears. My first proof is the other Twi'lek backup singer:



No points on the side of her head.

Then there was this little minx in the Coruscant bar:



Again, no protrusion, and the covering would not be high enough to cover horns.

And finally we come to Xi'an, wearing the traditional leather boxers on her head, shows the same amount of bulge at the temples as her brother.



Way to iron out those canonic inconsistencies, Disney.


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I thought the Gungan joke was kinda funny. Some of the other things I didn’t catch or didn’t bother me enough t worry over. Though I tend to let a lot of things just go in the Starwars universe.

I just thought it was a little contrived, beyond the obvious insult that Gungan's are generally classified as simple minded. I guess my hangup on such things stems from the understanding that in a galactic realm of story telling, idioms can only go so far before it's just stupid to assume that everybody in the galaxy knows what you're talking about.  Undecided

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Heads up in case you haven’t heard. Episode 7 will be dropping on Wednesday instead of Friday. Supposedly so it won’t compete with the movie. Plus I guess it will have a special sneak peak at the movie. Some people are saying it also has a tie-in but as far as I have read that’s just rumor.

Thanks for the heads up. +1

Not sure why they had pointed teeth, unless they filed them down to be more intimidating looking. Many cultures on Earth did that too.

Either way, their canines were over exaggerated, and it served no purpose.

The more I think about it, the more I believe that Bib Fortuna and whatever the hell this is, should have been classified as a different species and only been similar to Twi'leks.

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« Reply #109 on: December 18, 2019, 10:02:51 PM »

I liked this episode quite a bit. Sad ending though. Also, Mando should know better than to call someone on a comlink when there are imperials who could easily be listening in on your conversation. Just saying.
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« Reply #110 on: December 19, 2019, 02:20:06 AM »

This was the best episode since the third one.  The ending was fantastic.  I don't think I'm going to be able to concentrate on "The Rise of Skywalker" tomorrow night knowing Baby Yoda might be in danger.  I just have to keep telling myself, "They haven't released any merchandise so they won't hurt Baby Yoda".  Kuiil getting killed is definitely a downer and the sadest moment on the series so far.
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« Reply #111 on: December 19, 2019, 11:34:12 AM »

Enjoyed this Episode very much.
I really liked seeing the TIE fighter transform into landing mode. At the same time it bothered me just a little bit because after all these years of movies and shows they just now decided to do this? I mean at this point we were pretty much used to the fact that they landed on their “fins”. A nit pick I know.
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« Reply #112 on: December 19, 2019, 11:46:15 AM »

Enjoyed this Episode very much.
I really liked seeing the TIE fighter transform into landing mode. At the same time it bothered me just a little bit because after all these years of movies and shows they just now decided to do this? I mean at this point we were pretty much used to the fact that they landed on their “fins”. A nit pick I know.
My guess is this is a special TIE sort of like Vader’s.  Even before the “fins” did their thing it looked a little different.
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« Reply #113 on: December 19, 2019, 02:06:03 PM »

Enjoyed this Episode very much.
I really liked seeing the TIE fighter transform into landing mode. At the same time it bothered me just a little bit because after all these years of movies and shows they just now decided to do this? I mean at this point we were pretty much used to the fact that they landed on their “fins”. A nit pick I know.
My guess is this is a special TIE sort of like Vader’s.  Even before the “fins” did their thing it looked a little different.

Its definitely a specialized TIE. We have even new canon sources of TIEs being landed on their wingtips such at the Battlefront II campaign. He is/was a Moff after all.


Also detail I noticed, at some point in the episode something was said about Baby Yoda and nurture vs nature (dont remember the exact line) but it got me thinking

When we first met the little green guy he was terrified of violence, shying away whenever Mando got in a fight. But even a couple episodes later we seen him watching Mando closely during fights, even "cheering him on" in his own way. Its not so surprising that we see him use a Dark Side ability from nowhere now, hes been imprinting off of Mando's violent tendencies. I wonder how that will flesh out.
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« Reply #114 on: December 19, 2019, 03:09:25 PM »

Enjoyed this Episode very much.
I really liked seeing the TIE fighter transform into landing mode. At the same time it bothered me just a little bit because after all these years of movies and shows they just now decided to do this? I mean at this point we were pretty much used to the fact that they landed on their “fins”. A nit pick I know.
I gotta refute this. Despite the realization of and old concept drawing, I hated this design. Plus, why wouldn't someone as important as a Moff come in on something with.....shields? Undecided A TIE-Advanced I could see, not.....this thing.



Also, where the hell is the landing gear supposed to go? Leave to the Disney era numbnuts to think that every possible thing can be crammed beneath the surface of a thing because no machine has functional internal components that take up space. v_v

Nit pick away my fiend. I can't stress how important it is in story telling to nail the fine details because then it makes suspension of disbelief easier for big details.

My guess is this is a special TIE sort of like Vader’s.  Even before the “fins” did their thing it looked a little different.
The stalks are shorter, which might actually make engineering sense to help reduce the amount of landing area needed. The OGs would have slightly longer stalks in order to better accommodate rack clamps.

Its definitely a specialized TIE. We have even new canon sources of TIEs being landed on their wingtips such at the Battlefront II campaign. He is/was a Moff after all.
TIEs have always been able to land on their wings. They're just not very easy to get in and out of......which was kinda the way the Empire wanted it.

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Also detail I noticed, at some point in the episode something was said about Baby Yoda and nurture vs nature (dont remember the exact line) but it got me thinking

When we first met the little green guy he was terrified of violence, shying away whenever Mando got in a fight. But even a couple episodes later we seen him watching Mando closely during fights, even "cheering him on" in his own way. Its not so surprising that we see him use a Dark Side ability from nowhere now, hes been imprinting off of Mando's violent tendencies. I wonder how that will flesh out.
I loved the little dark side moment. It showed him reacting off of instinct to help his friend. It also goes to show that there is no light and dark in the Force.

I also loved the "other" incident:

(couldn't find an actual still from E7)

"I'm helping to fly, daddy."

Also, looking at this close up of Mando's bracer: how the hell does he work that keypad with fat glove fingers?


Did anyone else catch the scout troopers helmet about to flop open?

I loved that they brought in our brethren/sistren in the 501 to help shoot this episode.
Also loved the reuse of the Death Troopers. That whole scene was pretty epic in execution.

Hated that they showed Kuiil like 5' from the ramp, and still manages to get shot down. And where the #$%& was that useless droid?

What gives with Cara covering her stripes and not the Rebel cheek-cheer? What lame story did they concoct for the meaning of the stripes?

Speaking of Cara: I love how they aren't afraid to show her taking hits. Just because she's a kickass hottie doesn't automatically mean you can't hit a girl. What I did hate was the energy binder belts. It started off ok, but then they were able to grab them. If this is how they were supposed to work, then why didn't Jar Jar get tangled instead of shocked? Undecided Same dumb physics as Ezra's slingshot?

I loved how they portrayed the "client" as a zealot. He truly believes that the galaxy thrived under Imperial rule.

Thought the convenience of scouts listening to all the radio chatter was a little hinky, but made sense. What didn't make sense is how they know immediately what direction to go.

And if this was the end of the season, I hate those malicious bastards a) for ending on only 7eps, and b) for dropping such a heart wrenching cliffhanger on us. Angry Angry Angry
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« Reply #115 on: December 19, 2019, 03:55:51 PM »

And if this was the end of the season, I hate those malicious bastards a) for ending on only 7eps, and b) for dropping such a heart wrenching cliffhanger on us. Angry Angry Angry
Good news then, Logos: Season 1 consists of 8 episodes  Wink
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« Reply #116 on: December 19, 2019, 05:16:53 PM »

I gotta refute this. Despite the realization of and old concept drawing, I hated this design. Plus, why wouldn't someone as important as a Moff come in on something with.....shields? Undecided A TIE-Advanced I could see, not.....this thing.



Also, where the hell is the landing gear supposed to go? Leave to the Disney era numbnuts to think that every possible thing can be crammed beneath the surface of a thing because no machine has functional internal components that take up space. v_v

Nit pick away my fiend. I can't stress how important it is in story telling to nail the fine details because then it makes suspension of disbelief easier for big details.
The stalks are shorter, which might actually make engineering sense to help reduce the amount of landing area needed. The OGs would have slightly longer stalks in order to better accommodate rack clamps.
TIEs have always been able to land on their wings. They're just not very easy to get in and out of......which was kinda the way the Empire wanted it.
I loved the little dark side moment. It showed him reacting off of instinct to help his friend. It also goes to show that there is no light and dark in the Force.


I may be wrong but there was another TIE variant of a variant that is meant to be canon which was named the "TIE/sh VIP shuttle". This was a modified TIE-Bomber and had a set of landing gear and boarding ramp. It was able to carry four passengers and two days' provisions. It also had a low powered cannon and a shield generator. However the TIE/sh VIP was only a short range ship with no hyperdrive and needed escort fighters if enemy ships were nearby. This meant a lot of people preferred the Lambda Class shuttles for it's longer range, avionics/sensors and greater comfort.

Vader's Death Squadron utilised a fleet of TIE/sh shuttles during the Hoth conflict and  the search for the Falcon as radio transmissions between Star Destroyers would have interfered with the sensor sweeps.

Captain Needa's "last voyage" was on a TIE/sh shuttle before Vader choked his aspirations. Around 44ABY in Legends/EU an Ithorian politician named Snaplaunce had an old TIE shuttle painted bright yellow (featured in the book, The Truce at Bakura).
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« Reply #117 on: December 19, 2019, 05:20:23 PM »


"I'm helping to fly, daddy."



I loved how they portrayed the "client" as a zealot. He truly believes that the galaxy thrived under Imperial rule.

Thought the convenience of scouts listening to all the radio chatter was a little hinky, but made sense. What didn't make sense is how they know immediately what direction to go.


YES! To the first.

YES! To the second.

As for the direction I assumed if they could snoop on the transmission, they might've got a ping on where the receiver was.
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« Reply #118 on: December 19, 2019, 09:39:24 PM »

Thought the convenience of scouts listening to all the radio chatter was a little hinky, but made sense. What didn't make sense is how they know immediately what direction to go.

I thought the same thing about the directions up until just now. I just realized that they knew which way to go, because they saw which way Greef, Mando and Cara came from.
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« Reply #119 on: December 27, 2019, 11:07:30 PM »

How 'bout that finale?
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