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OK! So it is time to open this thread up! I'm working on a custom Sith character costume and work is in-progress. I figure I can take everyone from concept to completion and chronicle the ups and downs of creating your own costume (within reasonable monetary limits....ok...I'm cheap!)

Let's start out with the "concept" phase. Below is the link to my Google Drive folder with all of the bits 'n bobs that I have collected so far that will comprise my costume.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1OqnJ4-jrlCbvf54L4rBXPayq5Z_ng1ve?usp=sharing

Construction has begun on the following pieces:
(btw...EVA foam is a bit more tricky than I anticipated....)
1) EVA Foam bracers
2) EVA Foam Belt Buckle (Lord Starkiller inspired)

I currently just received the gloves and am awaiting the outer tunic.
I have my "Dark Apprentice" saber (see links in signature below for that build). I have added an "unstable" look to the the blade with some silicone caulking (it looks nice!)

The helmet displayed is not the final idea. I am looking to mash together this with some ideas gleaned from Darth Vindican's helmet stylings. Should yield an excellent result!

So...Here we go! Feel free to comment!

OOOOO you have a Dark Apprentice!? I just got my Dark Apprentice v5 in the mail yesterday what does yours look like? Also love that your taking everyone on the journey with you I myself plan on making a with costume as well.


My collection: Dark Apprentice V5 in blue violet amethyst with the Dark Dorinian pommel and black av switch, Aeon v3 LE in Consular green with silver av switch, prophecy v3 in blazing red with silver av switch, Aeon v4 with emitter windows in guardian blue with silver as switch.

Dark Apprentice is just the name I gave my saber. It's actually a Dominix V2 in Red and then customized. See links in my signature.

In the words of the Senate himself, "we will watch your career with great interest."

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/1acec62e467890b3485d1dabc3673718/tenor.gif)

Starkller Belt Buckle Mk.II is coming along nicely...

2 coats plasti-dip. I don't think I am going to try the hand hammered paint again from the previous attempt. I will just weather it. Note the unintended pits and texture. #HappyAccident

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1kha24rdgJZdKqqi9REsyU4IKFbElcY5t)

...stupid blurry camera

In other news:

Here is the beginning of my left Bracer (learning as I go so the Right one is easier to put together)

I started with a basic bracer shape (thank you Foam Cave) in 6mm EVA Foam and added a 2mm underlayer to help with placement of the larger 6mm shapes. Those aren't glued down yet but I put them in place for effect. Comment....be brutal....

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=12QhLfG-eQg-9v-zM6xe8W0nNp7rByARl)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1RzQu47HlNyFsb0gJQshulrAwFzdNoHYQ)

I'm thinking velcro to close the bottom or maybe a zipper.....thoughts?

I think you should definitely do Velcro over a zipper as the zipper would be difficult to install and most likely fall off easily. So far looks good though man, keep going and you’ll have them done in no time.


My collection: Dark Apprentice v5, Aeon v3 LE, prophecy v3, Aeon v4.

duly noted. I think I can get a more snug fit at the seam with the velcro too

Starkiller inspired belt buckle (MK-II)

Here is the current progress on the buckle. Finished painting the color parts and some initial weathering. The foam must have been set down on something pebbly as there are a bunch of fine indents. So, I used some gunmetal paint on some of the larger indents. Looks like it's been through something already....that's turning lemons into lemonade :-D

The buttons are way too bright and the next round of weathering should knock down that some. It's time for some dry-brushing and then a nice grime wash to complete before the final matte clear coat.

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1Q1IG7htXs-KxfyI5uoiItmnNDkX59fq4)

Is that the type of foam that you use a heat gun or heat source to mold?

Not exactly. These are EVA Foam sheets. I cut out all parts and the "buttons" and knobs and such and used heat to open the slits in the faders. You can use a heat gun to do some basic bending and shaping though.

I think I should stop with this much. I think it looks right.

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1f6Ld0dMo9Bc_OryZFKERgzco5QVCSvJr)

and here is MK-I (top) vs. MK-II (bottom).

I'd say MK-II is the clear winner!

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=10r5gWeZN43l7iqGfyTjvaK1xqi7UGLLE)

All that is left is a matte clear-coat and to attach some velcro to fasten it to a belt...

Awesome, appreciate the clarification. I saw the original posts as you made them and modifications here, side by side mk 1 just looks a bit faded like you took a grenade hit... it really depends on color of final outfit but I see what you're saying. Maybe having a big paper cutter would help, like one of those with a huge lever to make one hard straight/clean line. I've done cuts by hand before with scissors and it's all about executing in one action, to make it have less deviation. I also bought some good "fabric" scissors from a clothing material store. Ross, Jo Annes, Michaels, that type of place. Drawing lines is of course useful, but you have to just knuckle down and commit without any hesitation. I worked with a lot of vinyl "free hand" and almost no one does that... but it's possible even if a little nerve wracking, so I bet foam is a bit harder but do-able. I want to make some Saiyan armor so I'm watching you with piqued interest. Although I will likely integrate Sith Armor as well so it will help either way. -1 point for your efforts.

That actually brings to mind a question, is the foam impact resistant without warping? For instance if I mold some over shin guards or arm guards that are hardened plastic, do you know if the foam cracks or ruptures from impacts once it sets or does it reform to it's shape without incident? I don't imagine it's brittle like styro-foam.

I wwouldn't ecommend doing ay sparring with this. Once it is heat formed it keeps its shape well and still has the same texture. Think gym mats (same stuff) its not going to protect you…just make you look snaz.zy.  any repeated blows will ruin your paint job or damage the piece.

Thanks for the encouragement. I ssuggest getting some foam and watching some of the great youtube videos out there. make something small and work your way up. The buckle is literally my first foam build…ever. The bracers are next and scare the poodoo out of me…also learning I suck at most math and geometry! good times ;-)

***UPDATE***

The soft piece for my mid-coat arrived...Off went the arms...and I thought I'd throw on the gloves.

Pretty...pretty...nice!

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1mTYRtCfEUXzja-gURef3i_XNTvRLOkUx)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=10NxXRRtAuPTWpQ8uju-6w8aieSZH_Es7)

Building my left bracer is almost done. I'm using it as a test/learning opportunity....and boy am I learning.  ::)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1RBxYvyN0BIYhwhYK3daXXlCSryWFiO_F)

Even though I heat-shaped the thing before putting it together, I am hoping I can do a little bit more as it's gone flat and stiff. I'm hoping the contact cement doesn't re-activate and I go sliding all my parts off as I re-shape them a bit.

I am currently pleased with the look though. I have to add some detail in the recessed channel. I considered doing some lights...but that is beyond my current skillset. Anyone with knowledge can feel free to chime in loudly.

ordered black wrap tunic (even cmes with an obi) from Amazon …

more soon…

One of the things you learn with making an outfit is how flat shapes transition to "molding" to your body or wrapping around other items to make complete garments or pieces of apparel. Your geometry measurements may not be as bad as you think at first glance, it's not compensating for "unforeseen" adjustments in how it will fit VS how it's planned to. If you haven't tried sewing, tailoring, or altering wearable items in the past I can't stress how important that is in original measurements before cutting or fully assembling certain things. Even testing dimensions by cutting (replicas from) cloth pieces  to double check it before using more expensive materials. I like your bracers because I want to do something with armor that would have those kind of pieces, but I think I may mold foam or something else visually appealing over somewhat more "solid" plastic just incase I want them to be closer to more functional armor. Hell maybe make an ideal looking set with a set that looks more battle scarred that is stronger and build to be shock absorbent for sparring... Then just explain them as a "ritual armor" set and a "warfare armor" set. I keep changing small details (like color) because I want it all to have meaning based on the Sith Lord wearing it rather than just "oh, black looks cool and it's so Sith-y"...even though I'd happily go jet black. Luckily there are so many available choices to go some way that makes it your own. Like how I have wanted to get some pearlescent paint in the tones I picked; so it looks one color I want in mostly darkness, but (hopefully) adding light (but ideally even igniting my lightsaber) will show "my true colors" and make the armor seem to "come to life". Watching you guys evolve keeps kicking new ideas into my head, or reminding me of very old ones. So I thank you for sharing. If it all works out right I'll instill terror and captivate, thanks to insights evolving from these 2 outfits. Trust me I've seen my own fair share of trial and error over years of this kind of thing, but it looks like you're doing great thus far.

How strong would you have to make your armor for it to not only not break/deform during sparring, but also to be "functional" to lessen the impact of being hit while sparring? Makes me consider picking up some of the padded martial arts forearm and elbow guards. Would steel gauntlets be overkill? I know they'd offer superior protection, but would it be better to have a plastic or padded material so it doesn't damage the opposing saber "blade" that hits it, as opposed to it hitting solid steel? I see some sites have pretty cool steel bracers/gauntlets for not insane prices, so assuming one of them matches your style, or can be slightly modified or painted to match it, perhaps that's an option as well if you want the ultimate in functionality?

Yea, I thought through most of those options either for appearance or function. Ironically although I want metal (up to a point) because that is reminiscent of older style Sith battle armor, it'd probably be bad for some reasons like those you mention. I don't want metal dented from impacts, or the finish of it/opposing saber getting tarnished from repeated strikes. Like you were saying about those MA forearm guards, maybe integrating them in/underneath to dampen the felt force, they even sell those kind of pads relatively cheaply on their own and in small enough sizes to sew into something larger. At this point I'm considering even making a large portion of pvc pipe (possibly different sized segments) cut to slip my wrist through, then adjusting that 2" gap to the underarm area. With pads affixed inside and the whole length leather bound, some holes pre drilled through opposing sides to bind them with a "rope/string" I thread through. Keep the whole over covering like a tight fitting sleeve the armor insert can slide in and out of, velcro tab that wraps over rear portion, so I can separate them for cleaning or airdrying. This is why I keep adjusting my design to suit needed materials or innovations. Like washable fabrics vs dry cleaned, adding or removing snaps, zippers, details. I'm trying to get the whole concept concrete before buying materials beyond what I already have on hand, so I don't waste any cash knowing my ideas grow around problems and with different insights.

I want metal badly so I might make the visual only Ritual Set metal and the Combat Set hardened plastic padded inside. Like a custom set of up armored kendo wrist guards, for improved dexterity and defense. Might segment the pieces together, but that'll take a tad more planning to explain the layering in detail. Think pre molded deflecting armor pieces attaching to/over a padded shirt/vest. Locking in as layers externally like a partial carapace type of layer. Goal always being safety without major mobility restriction or flexibility loss.

You guys scare me with the "metal" armor stuff...I just want to look cool. I'd last less than 30 seconds in an actual fight. LOL

I think I am going to bevel the edges on the top parts of my gauntlet. Dremel-style....

I am fighting myself with trying to either add some simple lighting to that channel in the gauntlets or just add some kind of foam detail. Either way, I want to utilize the Sith Eternal logo in the circular portion. I just can't figure out how to keep a nice slim profile on that channel if I did some Red LED's, diffusion and maybe an over layer....and then where the heck does the battery pack go? Such are my questions....

Thanks for the suggestions and support!

Good to hear, terror has always been a goal for me with my outfit. Plus, even if it's not for actual combat it just looks great, like it is "made for it" even if it really isn't. But in truth it's kinda expensive or difficult to make sadly. I agree totally on details integrated when you want the look to fit some creative idea. One of the other reasons I'm tempted toward at least some layers of metal to try engraving or etching some detail. I mean ancient Sith weapons/armor is dang near always cursed, enchanted, or drives people insane. The more of this I can integrate the more authentic in my opinion. I'm almost driving myself crazy planning and making it so I must be succeeding in theory. That lighting idea sounds cool, can't wait to see who can help with info integrating that in...

About the martial arts forearm pads, I just found one that has elbow and forearm pads, and also inner forearm pads, which is pretty rare. They even say it's "ideal for weapons training."
(https://www.centurymartialarts.com/product/image/large/149341_2.jpg)
(https://www.centurymartialarts.com/product/image/large/149341_3.jpg)

As for metal options, Medieval Collectibles seems to have a LOT of "functional" steel bracers. You'd just have to try to find the right balance of medieval/fantasy/etc. that matches your desired aesthetic. They also have a wide variety of leather-based bracers/gauntlets, although I don't know how much protection or cushioning form blunt impact they provide.

https://www.medievalcollectibles.com/product-category/armour/functional-armour/functional-arm-armour/functional-arm-bracers/ (https://www.medievalcollectibles.com/product-category/armour/functional-armour/functional-arm-armour/functional-arm-bracers/)

Some potentially interesting designs:

At under $40 for the pair, these may be cool:
(https://26r1162iqrnz10wquy34bg3o-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/MCI-2583.jpg)
These may be too plain, but they're only $30:
(https://www.medievalcollectibles.com/product/dark-warrior-arm-bracers/)

They have more exotic and fantasy style ones for upwards of $60, $80, or even $100 too.

These Samurai bracers are awesome, but $136, so quite pricey:
(https://26r1162iqrnz10wquy34bg3o-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/RT-228.jpg)
(https://26r1162iqrnz10wquy34bg3o-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/RT-228_3.jpg)

These are more basic, and cheaper, but $70 for a pair still isn't exactly cheap:
(https://26r1162iqrnz10wquy34bg3o-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/MCI-2168-1_6.jpg)
(https://26r1162iqrnz10wquy34bg3o-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/MCI-2168-1_9.jpg)

At $45-50 for a pair in a variety of color options, these may be cool too:
(https://26r1162iqrnz10wquy34bg3o-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/DK6070.jpg)
(https://26r1162iqrnz10wquy34bg3o-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/DK6037.jpg)

Potentially even some chest/torso armor would be cool. Century, the same people that make the martial arts forearm/elbow pads, actually have some relatively sci-fi looking chest gear too:
(https://www.centurymartialarts.com/product/image/large/149341_20.jpg)

It's not exactly cheap though, and actual steel breastplates seem to run upwards of $100 even just for something pretty plain. Leather chest/torso pieces are also an option for a bit less money, but not much less, especially for more intricate designs.

Although I don't know how much you'd actually need a functional chest plate/armor unless you plan on doing some heavy sparring. I'd think arm protection would be paramount over torso protection?

Haha. You've seen my current outfit. I don't have any gauntlets, forget armor. Unless you count canvas forearm wraps haha. I just like thinking about things in advance and potential future routes to go.

Lights would be awesome in your gauntlets, but I'd be of no help with ideas for making them work, and not giant. And I'd imagine making them handle even mild sparring while lighting up and not being huge would be even more challenging? Definitely cool to see you custom making things though!

***UPDATE***

OK...while it's not made of  STEEL.....This is coming along nicely! I put in some temporary Velcro Dots to be able to close it (notice the seam cover on the bottom). I did a little bit of beveling (that was an adventure) with my Dremel and it does look much nicer. What do you think so far? I can't wait to start filling seams and getting to some detail work and paint.

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1rVIvLnFkU4eusU3PpX9F-6pROlx-b99b)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=13bN0IqnUfl4riBk2J5VX4K7QqhoMtZmH)

That looks great! Awesome work so far. And I couldn’t imagine trying to make a design that custom and intricate out of steel unless you were a professional smith or something like that. So good call on not going that route.

I thought it looked really cool before seeing it worn on an arm, but it looks like it fits really well, and I like the looks of the edges. Pretty savage, can't wait to see how it looks painted, although I'm already a bit impressed with the workmanship thus far. What kind of paint and application process you going to use? It's been great watching this piece come together, you completed one bracer assembly and refining it prior to constructing the other right? (right now seeing it worn as black on black reminds me of Death Troopers, which is also never a bad thing) Eagerly awaiting next stages toward completion!

current plan for painting is several coats of plasti-dip followed by some dry brushed edges with flat steel or gunmetal.If I don't go for the addition of some LED lights, then there will be a red Sith Eternal emblem in the circular space. Final bit will be some sludgy brown for an oily weathered look.

I just mapped out some further details with a pen and I'll use a wood burning tool (after purchase) to add them before paint.

Next step…seam filling

I should be getting my Sith tunic & obi tomorrow…

Stand by for update…

I did some mapping out of details for my bracer in pen (it looks so awesome with that alone) Need to pick up a woodburning tool to execute the design.

ok...be brutally honest....here is the tunic (a bit snug in the gut...the obi is shorter than I like but still wearable and came with velcro on already..bonus!)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1SbAjxTud-HK-HDOdRnwy0ea1vFtvKRVl)

Here it is with the outer "tabards", gloves and the nearly finished left bracer. (I took off my belt and added it backwards over the obi just for fun.)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=12Mz6of6CJbR5Hq5KCPxoZPc4vo0OKHAv)

A little closer...

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1VZb_iB8tBjc3k7j7g33ky6s56K3DKDuU)


Seriously though...what do y'all think?

So far it all works together pretty well, the belt and bracer are good accents to break up the black. I wouldn't have likely chosen the white undershirt, but not knowing what the bracers will look like in a finished color, it's too early to pass true judgement on that bit. Overall it's shaping up nicely, I'll reserve final judgements for the final product... So far those bracers rock, and set off the whole outfit.

I think it is coming together very nicely! The bracers are looking really, really nice, and definitely add a level of personality and uniqueness (and badassery, if that is a word) to the look.

If this were scrabble I would allow it! It's basically an entry in the modern american dictionary of functional slang. (at least the version I believe in, it's canon)

Thanks guys for the comments. IIt's nice to have other critical eyes on the project.

As far as the white shirt is concerned, ignore it, it was just what I was wearing at the moment…actually…imagine the shirt in wine red. I think that is the direction I am heading to break up the black a bit. The neck itself would be made to look like a neck seal (think stormtroopr or kylo ren)

With the tunic being so long, I may just opt for either black sweats or some kind of pant instead of the ones that had the butt cape thingy (see first post in thread for link)

…onward and upward!

Oh, cool, the deep red will look nice in my opinion. I get using what makes sense at the time (like the white shirt showed the detail of your outer tunic/collar for photos with it) until you put everything together. No problem with weighing in, this is entertainment to break up the monotony. Or scavenging pieces that can get integrated into my pre existing sketches/ maybe other outfits. It'd fun watching and learning different styles.

lots to share:

1) Got my wood burning tool…that's a nifty bit of fun. So, I'm detailing my left bracer (pics tomorrow) I also did some gap filling and installed my Sith Eternal detail. I am quite pleased. I'm very close to sealing, paintin, weathering and final details

2) Work commences on right bracer…Time to use what I learned

3) My wine red undershirt has arrived…So I will need to squeeze in a costume check to see how things are coming together

Hopefully lots of pics tomorrow…stay tuned!

First update of the day....

I think this bracer is complete (construction wise). Does anyone think it needs anything else?

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1mITv5KpvkjRZ6f3-7K-pps0mXvfg_Y0K)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1JE7ZmmXvvS0VS18l2FUrOIr1VcuuqeOV)

Well, here's the whole getup so far (even the Lord Starkiller-inspired buckle tacked on quickly and my covertech clip). As always, I ask for nitpicking...

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=19Cv1bworJQMWAccTVfPXIwv7QgRRYXHe)

The red inner layer really does look nice...I think.

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1A646wKP71u4-9O0gEbyKTqus3C5UqXc3)

Notice that I have also assembled the 2nd bracer but not detailed it yet (I am hella impatient....)

In sad news, I ripped the 2mm seam cover on the left bracer and have to figure out a repair.

The bracers are a $%# to put on with the long tunic sleeves and I may have to revisit how I want to fasten them after I get the painting done. I'm getting back to considering a hidden zipper at the seam instead of an inner and outer velcro layer. Either way, it's a very tight fit.

So, what do you think?

That looks awesome! Major props. The belt buckle looks good with the bracers, and the bracers look very, very nice. I agree on the red under-layer being a nice touch.

I honestly don't know of anything to nitpick. I guess if I had to, it would be to make sure your shoes or boots match the whole outfit? Nothing fancy is needed, and you don't need some crazy high boots like you see a lot of Star Wars characters have, but even just some black work/riding/combat boots would be fine, and I don't think you'd even have to tuck the pants into them or anything, just that you don't want some basketball shoes or something serving as the literal base for the entire outfit that is coming together very well I'd say.

Making me want to upgrade my outfit some!

Thanks for the kind words.

I have to invest in some kind of system to better fit everything so it looks on point with less fuss (it takes a lot of fuss currently!)

I don't have the lower body (below the belt) done yet...I'm just wearing jeans today...not very Sith-y. I will probably just go with some baggy sweats as they really won't be seen much. Boots are going to be later.

I can't wait to start painting these bracers. It's not going to be much but it will make them look so much better.

Anyhoo, onward and upwards!

Looking forward to seeing what the bracers look like painted! Their progress has already been fun to watch.

I agree taht some baggy sweats should be fine, considering all you really need them to do is not be noticeable, as they're largely hidden.

I don't think I'd be much help in suggesting a way to tighten/adhere/put on the bracers. A Zipper would be easy, but I'd imagine it would make the fit pretty limited and not adjustable. Which could work for the outfit you have in mind now, but I can't help but wonder if you wanted to eventually try it with more or less layers under it.

The only other options I know of that I have seen on more "commercial" or "professional" options are either straps, which tend to be on bulky pieces, like metal or thick leather bracers. But those type of straps would likely be too much and detract from the look you're going for, as it may be more of a medieval look than a sci-fi one.

Or a series of holes with rope running through them:
(https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/H550df46e91a34c01bc5a6acf101cb56f9/The-Mandalorian-Armor-Bracer-Star-Wars-Cosplay-For-Adult-Men-Steampunk-Leather-Lace-Up-Arm-Guard.jpg_q50.jpg)

Either with the two sides of the roper overlapping each other like shown above.

Or more of a straight across look like here:
(https://26r1162iqrnz10wquy34bg3o-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/200856.jpg)

But I do not know if you could put holes in your material that would still have sufficient strength to tighten and secure the bracers to your arms without ruining the integrity of the material or tearing it. Or if the general look would even work with what you're doing, as I'd imagine the idea of your bracers is to look more futuristic, so visible methods of adhering them probably isn't what you'd want from an aesthetic perspective? But I figured it couldn't hurt to throw some potential options out there, maybe help you come up with a related alternative option?

Thanks for the suggestions. I finished building and detailing bracer #2 and now everything is pretty much ready for plasti-dip and painting. FUN!

As for the method of securing everything, I have time to think on it. I like the rope look/idea but it would just pull right through the foam...because foam.

I figure if I truly $#%#$ up the bracers, there's always another order for Ali Express :-D


One quick question SirLaL: When you are wearing the cardigan/surcoat, how do you deal with the seamed area do you flop it over the seams (doubling up at the seam and creating the collar) or do you just kind of let it do its thing? I'm probably going to put some strategic velcro or snaps on some of the soft parts to make the dressing process quicker, nicer and neater so I don't have to stand there and fidget with the outfit.

I think I just throw it on and then sort of just manually adjust the collar/seams to look alright when the belt is on, and it’s generally tight enough fitting that the belt holds everything in place more or less. I put very little work into how the cardigan looks beyond just keeping it open the right amount over my torso and pretty taught under the belt so it doesn’t look bunchy. Sorry if that’s not much help.

not unclear at all. I do the same. Just harder to see since iit's ll black

WOW I missed some major developments there in a short window. That "structurally completed" right bracer looks fantastic, I really love the detailing. Again, supremely filled with envy! The red does go well, and I can't really add much that hasn't been said...

One thing is that with cosplay in general, the more intricate the outfit the more work usually goes into wearing it/putting it on. I'd constantly adjust myself before leaving home, then when getting out of vehicles, and after different cosplay actions and before/in-between photos. It's kind of the nature of the beast in some cases, unless you can plan ways to "keep everything exactly where you want it" Like you said (I think) snaps or other ideas. Possibly looking at youtube videos from well regarded "cosplay pros" or asking/starting a topic on here, maybe searching for one on "how to keep costume parts in place". I've found hidden buttons in-between layers can help some, although snaps can be more secure if not hard to fasten while putting things on sometimes. It's all in the design, and you're obviously pretty good at designing so I have faith.

The other part I think I may be of service with is the bracer fastening issue. You have velcro dots I believe at exact measurements. Likely tailor fit to be exacting to your arm dimensions. But possibly not accounting previously for the layering now in existence. I'd suggest adding another next to the preexisting one (if you have the space) to give you a bit more wiggle room for a more comfortable fit while remaining visually hidden. If not, you could try one of the thing's I've purchased and used in the past. Velcro straps/strips. These ones are industrial grade so they have enough strength to hold in place, and the adhesive is no joke. I cut portions down to hold my battery packs more securely, reduce rattle, and hopefully protect the cables/connections from being unduly stressed. I only cut about 1/2" by 1 & 1/2" segments figuring it'd cover half the inside of the hilt and be hopefully strong enough... Well I installed them universally after the first one held, without testing removal first... and F me, it holds to tight it's a B**** to get them out now without a plan in place & technique. So mission accomplished I suppose, cuz holy moly 10lbs of strength holding that is intense to fight against for sure. So I bet these would hold your bracers in place no problem, and so far the adhesive has held up to my insane training, movements, and hours of Spin Wars filming.
(https://i.imgur.com/ZcVHNXS.jpg)
Next time it'll be a 1" by 1/2" small piece to hold my batteries not "surround them".

thank you for all of that...lots of ideas to consider.  I am vascillating between the Velcro and still eyeing a hidden zipper.  But first: painting!!

I'd be interested to see how you would manage a zipper, but have actually been eagerly awaiting the paint job. This has been an intensely fun project to watch play out. I guess I just added the best simple solution I could think of in a medium I knew you were already comfortable with, and that I knew I had some relevant experience with. It's been ages since I used a wood burner, maybe I should invest. Although I doubt you should be inhaling the foam vapor that results in large quantities. I would suggest adequate ventilation when working since who knows what result that would have on the body... everything tends to cause cancer or worse these days, better to proceed with a degree of caution if safeguards weren't already in place. I apologize for not thinking of it sooner, but you seem like a pretty smart guy so hopefully you beat me to it.

A Sith Lord exhibiting care for others? 2020 strikes again!


I had a fan and some open windows nearby...still...very stinky when you plunge that mother-lover into the foam

You can get a wood burning tool super cheap. Harbor Freight and such...but I got mine at Home Depot and it works just fine. No need to buy the super deluxe.

I'm trying to figure out how to rig some old carboard tubes (heavy duty kind) into a "T" so I can mount the bracers on them for spraying. Fun exercise.

Seemingly counter intuitive I can understand, but not with deeper understanding. No Sith tends to work in absolute solitude permanently: in researching, finding outside input, examples, test subjects/research assistants, or even mentorship/wisdom from others are all of great value in development of gear or techniques. Making great gains usually (and within most of the tales) required as much. Call it a type of symbiosis if you will, but ultimately your progress serves me/my purpose. Positive input/reinforcement (even if truthful) is an inevitable investment in my own research as well. As stated, you were working on a Sith outfit... which makes it even more conceivable. Sith working together toward common goals in essence, or maintaining the longevity of a valuable asset while it remains useful. So I would counter that I'm very much in keeping with the rationale along those lines.

I appreciate your work, and also see no reason for someone who produces such fine work to suffer unduly; I'd gain nothing from it. So seemingly selfless acts can often be selfishly motivated. Does this make kind words or praise ring hollow? I'd hope not, it should not cheapen them, because such praise was (and is) still rightly deserved. I can be cruel, although it was not my intent here; not seeking to diminish any feel-good vibes you may have possessed. Merely offering transparency and standing behind the truth of my thoughts. You are rather cool and inventive, it's illogical to allow an artist to destroy himself in the process of creating a piece if it's not required to complete the work... especially when more such things may come to pass, or even better advancements made with the increased longevity. Sith have social circles too, just very different relationships than most. I may be dark, but not purely mad. Nihilistic destruction for the sake of destruction is certainly no way to achieve meaningful growth/gains, in my understanding anyway. So I say, as always, keep up the good work.

(nods affably but clutches hilt…just in case)

just kidding…seriously though, most of my current success stems directly from interactions with folks in this forum…and then a leap of faith as I try it out.

thanks :-)

Yes, good... I can feel the trust between us is as rock-solid as ever...

(http://i.imgur.com/Hdkl67D.jpg)

...no that left hand isn't waiting to do a Force Choke gesture at all!

(Also messing around, yes this is a valuable resource of advisors, guides, and information gurus on so many conceivable projects. With the practice/effort you keep putting forth you earn your place among them in my opinion. A serious SW web based Mecca, of a sort, has been created here. Desire and a bit of faith can lead to accomplishing some fantastic works with the assistance from this many knowledgeable individuals. Heck we could build a life-sized replica of the Yavin 4 temple if we tried; with enough collaborative effort a great many things become possible.)

Sorry for being late to the party here.

Definitely liking the look of the bracers you've got. EVA foam can be a VERY versatile material

Thanks Therion! I took a lot of your advice on board and it helped a ton as these came together.

Question: Do you suggest adding velcro before or after painting?

I plan on a quick heat seal and initial coat of plasti-dip on these starting Monday. 2-3 coats should do it.

Since they will remain black, I will be able to get to weathering and detailing after that!

***UPDATE***

Painting has commenced on the Bracers. Notice the new detail in the empty channel area. Amazing what a few model sprues, twist ties and foam bits will do!

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1pUrd3KJwJVV4T79PK8kPdHoyDHXBIsAZ)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1KMLMKSvQXgwHAeLiNAEH7_JtSUR9LSgH)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1Kf372IbPGoKLSDbO-L4itlMR_21sFSlj)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1I4SMrrjPhlkKhxaO5yptIx3v36Avq8h2)

Oh yeah! That matte black does make the red pop, and look crisp. I also like those "wires" you added into that central channel to add some more detail! They look pretty dang good. Those are just for show right, the wires don't light up or some such right? I mean I like them as is, makes them look more technological and sci fi in vibe. Like somehow it's powered armor or serves some utility purpose. -1 point for sure for this pretty clean paint job.

Very nice! It's really coming along incredibly.

Looking really good.

As to the velcro, I didn't paint the inside of my own bracers, so it didn't matter.
Bit of advice, though, would be to use super glue along with the self adhesive. The self adhesive doesn't like being pulled on alot

No electronics this time…though I almost did it. The bracers I am basing these off of threw up a large electo-shield on the off-hand …these…not so much.

not nice on the -1 point…I haven't weatherd them yet! They're far too clean still

I did see others using super glue or other adhesives...my temporary velcro dots bear out your warning/advice! Thanks

I just meant Dark Side VS Light point, an attempt to distinguish which was being awarded... Not a legitimate "counter point" to your collective total, rather one more "minus" into the total negativity (Dark Side streak) you already have going. I'm just trying to praise how Dark aligned this creation is to me.

But, I think they look great even without electronics installed. If you had worked a functional electro-shield into the design I'd be first in line pre-ordering my pair from you right now. They are too cool, no unfavorable judgements here.

I'd be down for a functional energy/deflector/elecro-shield. Hell, I'd settle for a less high-tech shield gauntlet like Kratos had in the 2018 God of War, where it looks like a gauntlet/bracer when not in use, but can activate to form a shield when needed.

I wonder if something like that would be doable. I'd imagine in real life it would have to be bulkier to hold what I assume would have to be multiple layers/levels that somehow fold or spring out to form the "shield?" But that would be pretty cool if someone could make it work. Sorry for going off topic though.

Great work mrg. It's really progressing nicely!

***UPDATE***

Weathering completed! Not sure if it transfers in the pics or not...

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1Q8YncMknWUBsKALe193GruXvKJ1VX3bM)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=13xi98jabXYy8OySHSfi6KoCXFIOQzIeJ)

True, it's probably not transferring the actual effect as it should. It's a bit more apparent to my eye in the top photo and I think the reflective nature/glossiness of the paint is less conducive to "us seeing" the look fully. Maybe a youtube display linked over to here would showcase it better than stills would? Idk, and maybe that's a lot to ask in effort. I can pretty much see the more-so greyed areas where you distressed them. I think it "rubbed off" some of the paint layers to basically show the base coloring again? I mean it looks good as far as adding "some wear and tear" goes, and it's a cool addition of the little "warning symbols". I still say they look pretty great, job well done. On second glance they do look a bit tarnished and less of that "right out of the box feel".

Still, looking very good

**UPDATE**

I DECLARE THESE BRACERS COMPLETED!

THEY ARE TIIIIGHT with just my compression shirt on...egad! They are also a pain to put on with one arm at a time :-D

BUT...they look awesome...IMHO!

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1HnKPoHt5vhN_j8IofQlD6kdSghVE5V6g)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1a6zDgHxZRbafS9-QfwRYMGhEJfj-JFGs)

I wanted to put on the outfit so far but I ended up rage-quitting the exercise as I didn't have enough time or hands. I am regretting some choices in my outfit as the tunic arms are super wide and I end up fighting them to get the bracers on. The obi it came with is its own giant PITA as well as it is a bit shorter than it should be. Annoying!

Color me impressed. They look complete, and completely awesome, to me. I suppose that, as a Sith, you can always have one of your underlings help you put them on.

Thanks…now imma need some Underlings! Being bad is expensive!

Most impressive.
Most impressive indeed.

Go find a planet with aliens to conquer? Forced labor = no payment required all profit...

If that's too difficult or distasteful, find "volunteers" willing to serve without pay, nonprofit SW fans perhaps locally?

(wait I see an alternative possible solution, there is a ring on a finger... Samurai used to have spouses assist them in donning their armor before battle due to the complexity on occasion, so maybe some requests could be made/negotiated for?)

At any rate, they are excellent, let the anger they inspire fuel you somehow. Or perhaps that is a mere side effect of a perfect Sith design process? Either way, well done.

For a second there I thought you were going to suggest he have kids so they could help him put on his armor eventually. Playing the long game is something the Sith are quite familiar with, after all.

Oh you know me all too well, the thought DID cross my mind. But if conscripting individuals meets with ill response or is frowned upon (because I'm hesitating to say the S word even in jest), creating life to serve is probably worse... although I know it to be an old world mentality, and many people's idea of a "retirement plan"/senior care. But wow, that's pretty Dark Side in my opinion... "I created you, now you serve me/contribute and will until my death" family can be dark though.

you guys are too much :-D

Thanks! Doesn't it feel great having fans?   ;D

Acolytes and sycophants…No Sith hould be without them ;-)

I think I'm returning the tunic I bought. The sizing just doesn't fit right. II'll probably end up with a short sleeved tunic from FFAO on Etsy instead. This means some more of the red compression shirt will show around the elbows and the bracers may fit a little better overall. I'm really debating on including the shoulder armor or not

I think that's a good call. If it doesn't fit right, while you're still working on the look it's probably best to make sure you're pleased with every piece. I'm sure some more red showing could be a nice accent and touch to the overall look. You have shoulder armor made already, or it's something you're considering making/adding now?

I'd say heck yeah, challenge yourself a bit more and give yourself a new project to work on... worst case scenario if you don't like it or stop liking the overall look of it when you finish, then just shelve it. If you make them and find them awkward to wear or don't like the look with your outfit, they can just be a display piece. I just say more armor is always better to have lying around, just incase you feel like wearing it.

The armor would be another build Sir Lift. I have a picture of my intended idea in my first post of this thread. I may simplify it. The original plan is to incorporate a rotj luke-style cloak with that armor or something like it. I'm just running up against my limitations in building thus far. I figure that this is all prelude to putting my helmet build together so I can really knock that out in style.

Through victory my chains will be broken…

Indeed, Through Passion, you gain strength.

I took a peek back at that link you'd posted... that shoulder armor is savage as it gets. It reminds me of Piccolo or teen Gohan in style, but ultra Dark Side. Any variation of that would be epic as HFIL. You do whatever you desire, but dang if that isn't a crazy nasty concept! Best of luck with whatever you decide, and as always May the Force serve you well.

yeah, that shoulder armor looks pretty sweet in-game. I am just struggling to get it to make sense IRL

I had some fun today making a paper version of Evil Ted's basic helmet to get a sense of the size. I may need to get the large version

***UPDATE***

On to the next thing.

Decided to get the basic helmet put together. So...it begins again!

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1dJHGfbb-6dhFdumUer5WKEeVbbWnyimQ)

Yep, some things are always the same, no matter how much you try...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM3Y6uw6FtU# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM3Y6uw6FtU#)

This is the direction I want to take (just the helmet)

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/41/43/34/4143343e014b3d6292fe85b713ec9d03.jpg)

That's a sweet look overall. Elegant yet intimidating. But isn't that "just" a Kendo mask? Not "just" as in downplaying it's awesomeness of course.

yeah pretty much a kendo mask but this is the look I'm after. I will try and break it up a bit with some details though.

It's a good look for sure! Always looking forward to seeing the evolution of your gear.

As far as helmets go... after playing Fallen order not only did I want to buy a Fallen but additionally I'd love to eventually make an Inquisitor cosplay, but finding/making that helmet. Ugh, difficult or expensive I'll bet. But I'm feeling it'd be worth it.

(http://i.etsystatic.com/20882104/r/il/db1a3c/2156597821/il_794xN.2156597821_st41.jpg)

(http://i.etsystatic.com/26715213/r/il/d179cf/2828898197/il_794xN.2828898197_cz4l.jpg)
Just saw one for $60 ish but the lusterous one is closer to $100.

I also highly recommend NOT searching for it or pictures related! Since knowing the internet it'd be somehow SPOILER-TASTIC to anyone who hasn't played JtFO. Since related links and things are nonsensically bad... Google is evil for this kind of thing. "Oh you wanted this specific result? Here's EVERYTHING even vaguely related... Terrible. Hence why I provided some sample images instead. It's just a good looking helmet! My preferred one of the ones shown in game.

yup...a pretty sweet design and it WOULD be hard to do in EVA

Apparently the top design IS a model of EVA foam and based off a design I found being sold on Etsy. So, apparently do-able. Tempting, but I'd probably just break down and buy a beautiful and wearable model, unless I wanted to make a weathered looking version. I mean something about that mirror finish just gets me, but I could certainly live with one I made myself and have some serious pride in that too. Decisions decisions. Just hope your own toiling is proving fruitful/beneficial.

pretty much anything is possible with eva and I do like the satisfaction of building stuff myself.

currently I am trying to settle on design elements for my own build and procuring some additional items. Also looking into ideas for my shoulders&neck

Looking forward to seeing what you come up with!

As for shoulders and neck, I saw a cool design for some Sith Acolyte pauldrons. You could always go with a different logo if you wanted as well, or a slightly different shape as well. Or a multiple-part pauldron that also covers some or all of the upper arm. Perhaps even something like Starkiller's pauldron, which you could mirror for both sides with either design if you want more armor and a more symmetrical look:
(http://mynocksden.com/_Media/img_4949_med-3.jpeg)
And there's other pieces of armor I think they made for their outfit:
http://mynocksden.com/projects/sith-acolyte/ (http://mynocksden.com/projects/sith-acolyte/)
(https://www.therpf.com/forums/attachments/starkiller-1-jpg.342694/)

Ok that's a pretty dang good Starkiller... But I enjoy the vibes of the "casual Friday" Sith mashup.

Sith Casual Friday sounds like fun. His full outfit is sweet though:
(http://[url=http://mynocksden.com/_Media/20150412_181438_med-2.jpeg]http://mynocksden.com/_Media/20150412_181438_med-2.jpeg[/url])

oh wow! those were both nice ideas! love the sith logo piece as it is both simple and bold.

***UPDATE***

Did some work on the neck-seal which will also be integrated into the shoulder armor. I still have to put the bottom piece of this on but it went together quite well (Just don't tell Tony Stark...)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1bIsijOph2cv_Y9OI_V1lqX6hS1X9nl-Q)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1XLFu6pSnlJhHIeAieVtY2ehfjHx4hoOn)

I also need to hit it with the heat gun and do some filling before sealing it and painting it. However...looks sweet so far imho!

That's looking very, very nice. Looking forward to seeing the continued progress! It's great to see custom pieces and a unique look. It really gives it character.

Thanks guys! I swear, I'm just pilfering other costumes for pieces and combining them.

Here is the "completed" neck seal. I'm looking into adding some details and then figuring out how to design some shoulder bits to attach to it....ugh! more math.

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1Lg_oAN-wv8gNcpDqvVX1s8wSQo-T2X8k)

I can honestly say thatchaving to build my items is a slog. The worst of it is my lack of skill and know how. I can see the items in my head but have difficulty translating them into the real world. My helmet has met with some setbacks and I haven't quite figured out my shoulder armor.  However , iI'll ave pics of my neck seal tomorrow to share… le sigh

Looking forward to seeing it. When you do figure it all out, it will be that much more satisfying, and have a story and meaning behind it.

Welcome more so into the "art" side of it. It's a constant burden to figure out how to actualize your envisioned piece in a functional product. Especially when you have to find ways to fit within it, open/close/don it, and make it look good too. And if you don't have like a wire mesh mannequin to build on or something it's odd at times getting shapes right without a blueprint. I know that struggle from trying to work on projects several times. Keep at it!

Can you hit up the local thrift store and see if they have a dressmaker’s dummy you can buy?

This is nice. But it gives me an odd Goa'uld vibe and now I wanna see a full jaffa armor wielding a lightspear...

**UPDATE**

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1wJGayPtOI_dysgAJ35EIctYixJ_GB85z)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=156W1IzVUV7pn7BFCxqMC4w3d04qu9uhg)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1mtaDtCxfRaAFGZQyKeTFrzlIHfxIYJGp)

I feel like Jaffa would use Saberstaffs or possibly saber pikes since they closely mirror their staff weapon fighting techniques, but yeah a spear would also do it. Point for the reference in general though, Teal'c is like what a reformed/reclaimed Vader would have been in infamy and purpose for sure. There is also something horrifying about legions of Jaffa wielding lightsabers cruelly wiping out populations for the Go'auld (that'd be remarkably Sith). Still Master Bra'tac ftw...

I also see the comparison a bit now with Jaffa battle armor, but I liked the "finished" product of the neck piece before the reference was made. It looks pretty clean and simple when worn, and like it'll mesh with an outfit and mask well. It does give a good Dark Side vibe, and will likely compliment the bracers for sure. 

Hi there mrg149 and DarthProdigal,

That neck seal looks darn impressive and much more solid than some that I have seen for sale online (I have seen neck gaiters for Stormtroopers that look like they're made from those flexible exhaust hoses for washing machines!).

And in regards to Goa'uld/Jaffa weaponry - they did in fact have a staff weapon namely a "Ma-Tok" but IIRC it was more of a regular staff with a blaster style laser weapon installed in the snake headpiece. I built a "lightsaber replica" of it back in 2016 but again I can't show it here as I used "other guys" technology. However here is a photo of the Ma-Tok I used as reference.
(https://ftsabersite.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/jaffa-staff.png)

Thanks everyone for the positive vibes! Just ddon't ell Tony Stark that I pilfered his MK 4 neckseal.

BTW the pattern was found for free as a pepakura file (actually it's the whole dang suit) & i wrestled it together fairly easily. I'll lap a matte coat on it yet and iit'll e done.

Next step is to try and salvage my helmet build…otherwise iit's ack to the drawing board.

I'm testing out some techniques on an alternative bracer build…more on that later.

Oh yeah, it's for sure heavily patent protected in that case, but don't worry... it's not like he can litigate against you. And I mean Stark Industries must have better things to do too. Heck if Stark demolished the majority of his own hardware what's the worry about you using an "obsolete" model? Good job repurposing it for the Sith. I approve!

Interesting! I'd love to see your work somewhere.
@DarthProdigal, yeah, a pike would do to!

Hello DarthRondoudou and Prodigal,

Thanks guys and I have sent you both links to my site in your PM inbox ok!

And @mrg149, I wouldn't worry about Iron Man/Tony Stark - I'm on good terms with him as I built this for him... 8)
(https://ftsabersite.files.wordpress.com/2019/04/ironman4-mk.png)

Side project....

Tried a different design for bracers...Here is a look

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1mwbNbrWPpokDSqWp8iBpoj-dWLNWl7ly)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1yLpqBikqViKcMnre9jUliDaH12iHN_2s)

That is also a good style, I like that design very much as well. It's got a clean elegance. And now I suppose that means you'll have two sets to alternate between as desired.

The end result is two different pairs of bracers but this was mostly just to test a few ideas out and practice building skills with the eva foam.

The helmet build is kicking my rump and not going well…the bracer was an easy win

These look FANTASTIC Mrg!!

How long did it take you to do each of these?

Point!

Those bracers look incredible. Congratulations on a job well done.

The bracers are literally 4 pieces and some velcro. They didn't take long at all (I only finished 1 of 2 so far)

These were a free pattern from stormthecastle.com and I left out some detail (read: forgot) & did it in 4mm foam instead of 2mm. I used this to test usin Mod Podge as a sealer instead of plasti dip. Nice but it cracks on moving/flexing parts.

Paint was a glossy hammered pewter spray paint (I wish I used the hammered black though as theses are rather silvery). Weathered with brown and black acrylics and sealed with a finale matte coat to knock the sheen down. I need to finish the other one still.

Thanks for the love!

P.S. - I think I really borked my helmet build  :'( but I'm fighting through it and trying to salvage something out of it…I've almost trashed it several times but can't quite do it.

I knew I should have payed more attention in math class…

ok…I am finishing up that 2nd bracer I was playing around with.

…& things went a bit awry. 1) the fit was a bit more wonky (despite using the exact same pattern. 2) My spray paint can wet the bed and so the paint came out differently (the "hammered" paint is weird to begin with and has some black undertones to it) so it has a darker and dirtier sheen than the first. I will attempt to rectify this with some acrylics on the O.G. version. 3) When I put this one together, I just realized that the velcro side is THE SAME on both bracers despite my attempt to make a clear right and left bracer.SERIOUSLY?!?

In thend, They should still look decent.

…in other news: My attempt to make some better looking pouches for my Jedi outfit went well until I started sealing the foam with my mod podge and thus my paint looks butt-like and I don't think it will get to the "faux leather" look I was hoping for

Such are the trials of this builder…May the Force have mercy

That is horrifying overall, well we both know how mercilessly the Force toys with lives and even destinies at will. Your efforts will be rewarded given time, but no guarantees of your sanity surviving exist... Making you all the more fearsome by Sith standards. For what is more terrible than a Sith? One driven mad by research and efforts to craft things. Project "cursed armor" seems to be going quite well according to the will of the Dark Side. Much anger and despair has been produced, and woven into the product. Glad to see you toughing it out! That shall make it far more rewarding when ultimately finished. Plus all the armor pieces will have a good story behind them.

Well, I think I saved the bracers minus the stupid brain-fart with the velcro....

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1UAOEuw0fVKedjYS94g6U5cNt4WxwXHMp)

UPDATE:

I'm trying to save this helmet...but it's kinda ugly so far...

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1F99UXtM_juM9aH-Vql4iEgUW8FSzR17y)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1MENtQnJLHhj4VN3c6YWYDab9QAG4CVKJ)

***UPDATE***

Thought I'd add a little detail to my gloves to go with the bracers. So, I did a Stormtrooper-style hand guard. These should look swell after some paint and weathering!

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1EPYSmoMqKV2ww65ixHlIYFx8myvzNp0Q)

Nice!!!!

Nifty, Mrg!  Looking fantastic  :)

Point!

***UPDATE***

Here are the results for my "hand armor" with each bracer choice....Which do you like best?

BRACER A:
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1jR5Id62aqLWzpq8-ANyxSD8yY0CzO0CY)

BRACER B:
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1tDjb7sjmcb1m0WAiz-7tKI7iYPUKTsnu)

Very nice!! I love the red detail.

I like how they wind up going with either model... I like both for different reasons. Two separate good looking styles.

But if I can only vote for one, I like the overall flow/blended look of the Bracer A setup.

Although I think the look of the Bracer B design style would match your existing helmet best, to my eye anyway and just thinking of the two items when paired together.

Mrg, these are absolutely spectacular!!  While I think that BOTH are AWESOME, I'd have to go for "Bracer A" as my preference (but, again, BOTH look fantastic)!

WELL deserved point!

Both options look incredible. A looks like something a more tech-savvy Sith would wear, while B looks like it would be perfect for an ancient Sith. Both are really well done. But I'd give A the nod due to the sweet details and it being very distinctive. Can't go wrong with either one though.

You all have excellent taste :-D The "A" combo is, by far, my favorite. I may have to add a bit more armor to the fingers due to a little overzealous use of sandpaper to distress and attempt to remove some errant glue on the left hand causing a small hole in the fabric (oopsie!)

I may have some updated pics on the helmet soon....have some bits en route to add…it's a process

**UPDATE**

Some more work on the Helmet:

Check out the back detail on the helmet that has been added:
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1S9NMxyy9NWyTryBEjrlQIXTdX1YatBLj)

Side "Cheek" pieces added....Also not planning for the "Kendo-Style" grill is in-progress:
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=14VtrIneqiI7IoKDvL2bIM0KnaQQO4leU)

I'm trying to fill and smoothen out areas as I go as well. I can't wait to get a sealing coat of Plasti-Dip on this thing and paint it. I think it will look much more interesting then.

I think I'm going with the obvi black with some variations and metallic tones. I want a red highlight somewhere (perhaps the Sith Eternal logo stenciled on...suggestions?) I was also thinking that the "grill" could be in an old gold tone for another bit of contrast.

I welcome comments, suggestions and ideas.

trying to decide whether I want to add a thin ridge detail  (think that rised detail on an old football helmet but a little wider) or somthing closer to the "mohawk" holder on a Spartan helmet minus the "hawk"

Thoughts?

My logic circuits are offline for the day, maybe later. Functioning is taxing at the moment, batteries are spent.

***UPDATE***

Did some detailing on "ears" and at the chin.

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1a0k8E_IIj1PxZbzKiBGZhFlHwblfpV3J)

I am planning on adding the "grill" today. I have NO IDEA how I'm going to be able to seal or paint it once installed...but...fortune favors the bold!

***EVEN MORE UPDATES***

Now it's really taking shape. I think we're about ready to paint this thing!
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1auH1OqDgtn86VaYW8NiEUk2JkCL4vmx0)

I added my neck seal, bracers and glove with hand armor....couldn't resist!
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1e5eCvmDYgLx6J3_z8esEYPT42t8UXdHG)

Ok, I know it'll be time consuming and painstaking but you can use painters tape cut into smaller sized shapes to cover the reflective part. Just cutting them smaller than each section and filling in "gaps" along edges with layered pieces as needed. Then it'll be a bit of a pain to remove after too, but it'll likely work out well enough. My thoughts anyway.

And it all looks pretty good together, interesting and different than what I see around in it's own way. I like it.

I like it! It looks like it would serve a purpose in combat, and besides hiding the wearer's face, which itself lends an air of mystery and menace, it's reflective surface could be more than a little disorienting or unnerving to an unprepared opponent who, instead of seeing the eyes of their adversary, or even seeing no face, they see themselves mirrored back at them. Very interesting.

Glad you guys dig it! I don't think any more building needs to be done at this point. If i've learned anything it's that the more you mess with something, the worse I tend to make it! So: put it down…walk away and think about sraling and painting.

2:07 forward seems appropriate then: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZaAFADoF1M# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZaAFADoF1M#)

LOL that seems about right! better than reforgiing Kylo Ren's helmet on planet of the Apes…

Current paint use is flat black with a matte hammered black metal on the plates (looks like a super dark gray). Tomorrow will add some red accents along with flat steel and the "grill" gets a gold painting.

Pics to follow

***UPDATE***

Here it is....light weathering so far but this is the "clean" version. Let me know what y'all think?

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1omGBgHioIVoNcVNQUPZK4_Yu-XMsnE8C)

from the side
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1bkzU3vB0lbcdyWUnmZsAmeFu6cJJK41V)

and the back
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1--DnmqOZjKPcUejAoq4PzK6xTF3idI0d)

The choice and placement of accent colors looks good, subtle red pieces to match the bracers well. And I had jokingly posted that Ironman snippet to say "this'll take a while, better go entertain yourself" but then you really did use Red and Gold... (and the other two colors are standard War Machine as well, kinda funny)

It looks good painted finally, and to think it gave you plenty of trouble first; guess it was worth the effort/frustration.

Yeah...this has been quite the adventure. Now I get to dirty it up a bit and be done with it.

Not sure whether I want to go further on the armor front. Just go with a standard-ish Sith Robe setup. I have the long tabards thingy that SirLiftaLot has in Gray but mine is black (natch..) However, a hooded cloak is needed. I want to do the Luke RotJ/Mando style cloak.

Decisions, decisions...

***UPDATE***

And now the weathering is pretty much completed. Hope it shows in the pics.

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1AJyukEWpBwMw2qxn8JE_GaxDeSHMplh1)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=13LuN4rIfYst-rotNL5NKFmlZCml0wd4M)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=13q5DvqWIA5wSrlZfcxydVj_zq6zf0-wT)

Looks great to me. Very unique. Sufficiently intimidating and I could see it also being a bit unnerving to go up against with the mirrored surface. It also looks like it would go quite well with the bracers, which I imagine was the idea. Well done!

Made some decisions on the next few steps:

1) "Soft Parts" will consist of a wine-red undershirt, Black short-sleeve tunic with hood from Far Far Away Outfitters along with their obi for continuity. I will use my black cardigan as a long tabards (see SirLiftaLot's costume)

2) Shoulder armor- I've decided on using this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FCx5DWmUW0&t=330s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FCx5DWmUW0&t=330s)

as my starting point for my shoulder armor. I am not going to do the chainmail detail but, instead try to do something a little more star wars-y in design. The shape is what I intend to keep.

*** UPDATE ***

Shoulder Armor/Pauldrons are in-progress.

Here are the shoulders (the gap is where my head goes facing <==:
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1DJbSsvAtWlfjUDp8R2MQGguPS032C7Af)

Arms (You can see the markings for some details I will be adding):
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1TNLv0ihY3yx6JJ4dUXVQ_UkTU6MaXD9Q)

Both parts together (as if my arm were straight out in a "T" pose:
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1o8JhMaGNbyIYgxTakIX1xsgicu1TGhzW)

I wasn't sure I was going to like this as the parts were coming together. However, now that I've done some shaping and a few details, I like it when I'm wrong :-D

looking good!

Can't wait to see the finished product cause these look sooooo nice already! Have a minus point =D

Thanks everyone!

Next step is to break out the woodburning tool for some further detailing. I ccan't wait to paint these up. I think I will do black on the outer portions and the black hammered metal color from my helmet on the inner inserts with gold "buttons"… or vice versa.

What say you?

Gold is often quite nice on details.
A few sith armors in swtor (so, old rep era) are quite oppulent though. It all comes down to what kind of character is wearing the armor. A fighter? Judging by the helmet I'd say it's more likely than a politician or conspirator. So... Gold detailing is probably best than too much gold ^^'

DAG NABBIT!!!

I posted some super-sweet pics of my progress from today and it didn't end up posting here

**UPDATE**

Here are the pictures I tried posting yesterday.....

Shoulders with new details and first coat of Plasti-Dip drying:
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1kJRUNKQSLGX_OyXmKncGHbjrd-WcW3lQ)

Deltoid and Bicep Armor:
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1sCDy6lqC6mfTSl5xwz5KCoA9rbmULy-i)

Everyone together:
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1ZXORV-0qoWsAqomHt35hWg26Pa0pnJNS)

...and with the helmet and neck seal:
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1_F8b8uQaCwZSrIZ8fWSXvE9UNbY2M_Fz)

Second coat of Plasti-Dip is currently drying....I'll add a 3rd and then the painting will begin. I've decided that the raised portions will be flat black and that the grooved inner areas will be the same hammered black color as the plates on the helmet. With some weathering, these are going to look pretty cool. Doncha think?

Those are looking great!

I figured it might be time to start thinking about a name for this character.

I found one of a Mesopotamian god of death, war and pestilence that I like: Nergal (IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE POLISH BLACK METAL BAND...egads!)

So, what do you all think of:

Darth Nergal or Lord Nergal?

Hmm.  Doesn't quite strike fear in my heart.  I hear Nergal and think of gurgle, burgle, Nermal.  None of which a Darth lord wants to be associated with.

I think the Sith will need to take that one back to focus groups, if any still yet live.

How about Darth Reaper?

Reaper may be a bit cliché I'd say. The internet says that Nergal was also known as Erra or Irra, and had a wife named Ereshkigal, not that the last bit help with a name for a male Sith I suppose. If mrg ends up not going with Nergal, although I don't have any issues with the name, he could perhaps portmanteau multiple names (either from the same or different Gods of death) to come up with something truly unique, not that we haven't had less unique Sith names like Maul, Bane, etc.

It seems like some Sith names add something to the end of another word or name, like Plagueis having "Plague" as the seeming basis of the name, but sometimes they literally just use words, like the aforementioned Maul, Bane, and Vitiate.

If mrg does want to keep Nergal as the base of the name but add a little bit to it, there's a few routes I can think of. An interesting one could be Nergallant, which combines Nergal and gallant, which could be taken as a splended and stately God of Death, or a brave God of Death. Or even for a Revan-type Sith who started out with good, knightly intentions.

Or there's Nergalactic, which is just smashing together Nergal and Galactic, which could be fitting for a God of Death ruling the galaxy.

or Nergalactose if you really like the monosaccharaide sugar galactose for some reason.

Nergallows could combine Nergal with gallows for a Sith executioner.

Nergallus would combine Nergal with gallus, which the internet tells me means bold, daring, or reckless in Scottish, but is apparently also Latin for rooster or cockerel, so you'd be the Daring Rooster God of Death.

But I'm just throwing things at the wall here if I'm being entirely honest.

Edit: or Nergalcazar, which is Nergal and Alcazar, which is a Moorish castle or palace, which I guess may work if you're from Portugal or Spain?

Or Nergalpaca, the God of Death and alpacas.

Or Nergalpha, the Alpha Nergal.

…takes off his glove an smacks SLaL across the face

Thou dost offend

So…Nergal = No go…got it

sorry.  not all foreign names carry their ominous meaning

Darth Gallows sounds kinda cool.

I'm contemplating the same problem for my new outfit.

These look absolutely fantastic!  I can't wait to see your finished ensemble!

Point!

***UPDATE***

Finished the initial paint job.....Now it's time to dirty these up a bit!

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1aKeiuQ_j7-ZE5HaNjVasMTRaorxMYF3l)

Those look fantastic. Great job once again. Looking forward to seeing it all come together!

And just to clarify, I don't think Nergal is a bad Sith name, I was just trying to give some potential options to add on to it to mitigate the issue that janx brought up, but when I was looking for words to add on the end, I saw some silly ones that I had to add.

***UPDATE***

...AND now they're DIRRRRRTY!

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1GA4-Qk_QPolmdw-z-viphiLEbzlmJyrl)

Looking good!

I may borrow this design for my own Sith-itization of the jedi outfit (aka shoulder pads to go with the red light saber).

In other news, remember that $10 voice changer I ordered.  It just got here. I recall you wanted to know how it turned out

To my ear, speaking quietly, with it set in Monster mode, It sounded deeper and kinda Kylo-Ren-ish.  About what I was hoping for, and plenty loud.

To wife, she couldn't understand a damn thing I said. Alien mode is high pitched and terrible.  Amplified mode sounded like me but louder, with some warble.

it has no volume knob.  The speaker/battery box is about 6" by 3" by 1" so it's kinda bulky.  I am assuming I can hide it under my tunic, but it'll be a stretch, literally.


All said, it's a maybe on whether this thing is going to be cool or a pain in the ass when I talk to people. I'll have to control my voice myself to avoid overdriving it, as well as to help it help me. It's not a bad idea to speak quieter inside the mask, so all the people hear is the machine, anyway.

ain't it the way - bappa di boopie

So the pattern I based these off of was free.They're ethe Witcher Pauldrons from Much Props (find it through YouTube ) I just redesigned them for something a little more Swarzy. They are giving me a light Darth Malgus vibe for some reason.  I can't waith to strap these up and then on!

As for the voice changer…I had a bad feeling about that especially after some Google-fu was employed. If you have a smartphone you can utilize that with some apps possibly to greater effect

I think the majority of my building is done. HOWEVER, I may wish to go back and take a 3rd crack at the starkiller belt buckle now that I've leveled up my skills and tools since beginning this project.

Based on the great results with your recent gear, I'd say you'd be able to make a great V3 belt buckle. Looking forward to seeing the finished result all come together!

not sure if iI'm ust having a blah moment today or what?

tried to strap my shoulder armor on and had a rough go of it…its a guessing game iI'm osing :-(

Tomorrow will be a new day, perhaps things will be easier.

These look absolutely fantastic, Mrg!!!  Incredible craftsmanship (I'm legitimately envious  :))

Point!

If I can't figure out how to rig the dad-burned things on my body, you can have them ;-)

...but thanks!

***Update***

Starkiller Belt Buckle V3

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1osDuNCPvI96NafvQ_9Xlt_7sR5ZZiRPp)

...as opposed to V1 (top) and V2 (bottom):

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=10r5gWeZN43l7iqGfyTjvaK1xqi7UGLLE)

which one is the best?

**UPDATE**

A black hoodie does not a Sith make.....But since I had it on today and I don't have any soft parts (save for the cardigan/tabards), I figured I'd try and put on the parts to see what it's looking like. The arms are posed to mind the GAP (hoodie). It's very precarious at this point.

I secured the shoulders to the cardigan/tabard via Velcro but there is some more major work that needs doing.

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=16GQUzicqKs3YAWkFo4Jv33Tqpu0FUk-g)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=174Sw2DfQwyn282HyNXfDjtuBJTGzqtQG)

Not sure what to think?!

armor looks good.  Once I see it with what the planned garb is, it'll prolly be awesome.

…from your lips to the Force's ears!

…ok…Character name attempt #2

Darth/Lord Malix

could be pronounced MAHL - IKS -or- MAHL - IHSS

Mal = bad plus it can be a convoluted version of Malice but with that Swarzy twist

 and it hews close to the Maul, Malgus, Malek trope.

I have some backstory ideas percolating as well…but that's for another day

This looks very nice!!! There is a Vidocq meets kendo vibe from the helmet wich makes it a bit too much for me. But it's always nice to let ennemies see their own death.
The arms pieces are awesome.
-1

I hear it pronounced like malice with an X.


Rise, Darth Malix.

Yes, the Dark Side of the Force is strong with this one... continue to exceed expectations Lord Malix. Great things are underway, but there are greater gains to be made. Leave nothing standing your wake. You create to destroy who you were, and shall destroy all you come across to create something else entirely. A true Dark Lord of the Sith.


(yeah it works well in the proper context, good ring to it)

***UPDATE***

STATUS: DARTH MALIX COSTUME TEST #42,342

This is without any "soft parts" which I really need to get on top of...

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1ygjTjO6unIBL77GSkHJ4OEraF4B7ohTb)    (https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1Wr8Btg6n0rWKX9IUIvNkT7ICaRoZ9CxP)

This image was pulled from the photo receptor memory of a demolished security droid.

IDENTITY: UNKNOWN FORCE USER
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1vSnGb3De-TSQ_N-TcpIXIeYbWTJcQVID)

looking more evil every day.

what do you think about an obi for the belt?  It'll spread the belt compression (aka belt gut).  I'm not seeing indentation on you but, many of us have the same problem if we cinch a belt around... :)

Plus, it'll add a layer.  layers and textures will make the all black materials stand out more.  I can't quite see what you're shirt/tunic is because of being a single material/layer.  I assume that's related to what you meant by missing the Soft parts.  stuff that's in the works.

I'm liking the gorget.  it reminds me of the upper shoulders/plating darth vader has (though yours is completely different) before we see clothing, etc.


Is it possible to curve those shoulder pads (the rectangles) more so the  front and back edges don't flare up like we see more in the right-side picture?  I'd like to see that edge held down more so I'm not looking "under" the armor.

Seeing the blade reflected in the mask is very nice.  That's menacing.

okk so just to tackle the current response…

TThe nly soft item I currently have is the tabards via cardigan.

the rest should be ignored as it was used just to make it all look less "street"

Ill be purchasing the black short sleeved tunic with hood and an obi from FFA when the funds are enough.

I think I will need to build out a belt a little more (almost wore my jedi belt just for styl looks)

The armor doesn't seem to want to stay as rounded as iI'd ike and I think I'm going to have to wait for the rest of the outfit to truly fit everything in place. I did seem to figure out how to get the pieces to work together a little better with some strapping.

I'm just glad it iisn't looking dumb

Nice paldrons.

Thanks!

Alright Mrg!  Looking particularly Sithy  :)

Great job; I'm looking forward to seeing more!

Point!

Great job. This is coming together quite nicely!!

Thanks everyone! I need to get those soft parts ordered....

Ok...It's getting close to decision time on some of the soft parts.

Here are my choices:

Far Far Away Outfitters - Short-sleeve Hooded Tunic in black
(https://i.etsystatic.com/13348365/r/il/e605a2/1043022714/il_794xN.1043022714_h1a5.jpg)

VS

Cosplay Sky Star Wars Anakin Skywalker Cosplay Costume Outfit Black Version
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0004/9414/1503/products/11006343_1_740x.jpg)

Both are going to run around the $70 mark once I include an Obi with the FFAO hooded tunic.

I would get MORE with the CS outfit but would probably discard the belt and (for this build) the robe as it wouldn't work with the armor (though I'm open to seeing how it ends up). The sleeves on the tunic would be long and I would have to figure out how to deal with it when I wear my bracers. On the plus, pants and flexibility for future outfits. Many of the costuming clubs poo-poo the CS robes as they can be hit-or-miss. Also, this can be ordered MINUS the outer robe...So, there's that.

Cons with the FFAO tunic is that it is just a tunic and obi and a future purchase of a cape would need to be made. Also, I am pantsless (but I do have some potential items in my closet).

I'd really like to hear some thoughts on this!

FFA feels like a known quantity.  the fabric and stitching is going to be top notch. The short sleeve tunic will accommodate your braces and shoulder pads.

You can hang a cape from the pads.  Or leave off the armor and instantly be a jedi.

Now maybe a hoodless version would be a better multi-use, as that would accommodate robes in Jedi mode.

But I feel like that FFA is going to be a better piece than the full Anakin garb if it's from a mass production company (I think For Tyeth said Cossky was good, but otherwise...).


I recall seeing pants mentioned as a factor.  Do not make a decision based on pants.  That's a $30 part from FFA or Target for some Dockers. The latter have pockets and are screen accurate.  That's probably my one regret purchase is my FFA pants are well made but it's the one part I can source from a normal store and come out ahead (pockets!). Costume or period-replica pants just don't fit like modern does.

Thanks again Janx! I waffle back and forth between these items about every hour or so weighing the pros and cons (though the pants are not a factor but a very very minor bonus that would probably just be discarded for later use).

The FFAO tunic with or without the hood seems the way to go. With the hood means a regular cape and without means a hooded cape (can't go all Sithy without a badass hood…it's just not proper!!!)

Glad to help.  I've got my own waffling with those FFA pants for my costume :)  Which I did upload some pics with the mask and pants, but nobody saw. If you get a moment, tell me what you think.

ok…decided to go with FFAO as my choice and now iit's own to hooded plus cape (later purchase) vs non hooded plus hooded cape (later purchase)

with the former, Ill always have a hood integrated vs the latter where hood and cape are separate items

What do you folks think is the better aesthetic?

Man that last picture is killing it when put together, I can see a Darth Malix vibe working with the armor. I feel like the purchase of an under tunic will smooth out the section between shoulder armor and bracers surely. And it's ironic how the samurai vibe will resonate with OG Vader ideology of design as well. I love the mix of a Kendo style grill/mask with the reminiscent of samurai style shoulder and upper arm guards. It's awesome mixed with the reflective nature of that helmet shining your red blade back as mentioned. I do understand the desire for a hood, but question how well it'd work with your current setup... Though a cape would be a great addition surely. A hood would be properly Sithy but detract from the accents and overall feel your helmet exudes. You worked soooo hard to turn that into a win, it just seems a shame to diminish it by shrouding it unnecessarily. You've really done such a great job crafting all that armor, it just seems such a waste to not highlight it and potentially limit it's impact (to my eye anyway).

DP raises good points on the merits of hoodless.

I still feel in favor of a hood.  One being that it continues the feel of Sithness.  Deviating too far from and folks won't see it as you do.  I've seen that in my steampunk jedi outfit and even the recent sith-ish outfit to work with the red blade.  If it misses on enough key attributes...

Another reason for the hood is layering.  While the hood hides aspects of the mask, it also adds intrigue. A person can see hints of detail beneath the cowl, they know it's there.  That you didn't stop where the shadow fell.  Glimpses of detailing can be more powerful than a full display.

Plus, you can dramatically pull the hood back...

I agree on both plus the layering aspect. Think about those sweet shots of Malgus all hooded up and maul in the tattooine desert. Shrouded in darkness until the big reveal

I'm just questioning the overall look minus the cape with a hood attached to the tunic

#SithProblems

I don't think you can go wrong with either choice.  You'll end up adapting with a hooded cloak or a cape when the time comes to expand.  My tunic has a hoodie, so I'm thinking about a cape.  If it didn't, I'd be looking for a hooded cloak...

Ultimately, it's a matter of 10 bucks and personal aesthetics. iI'll et the Force guide me when  the time comes.

**Update**

Made some belt pouches out of EVA foam....They do look rather "leather-y"!

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=13l78Z6LQ7QdCJJ_bXpOkAEgtsGQ3NN11)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1ts_pxSYlQiIE2NGevZN2wuNkLAAiFami)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1Mz1-vTSsNszg62RTZN4GCUB6j1WUor4j)

they do look leathery.  these are something I'd probably build out of leather, but nobody's gonna notice, that's how close you've got it.

I do see that small ding where you mis-grooved on the smaller pouch.  there's a leather tool for doing that, with a guide bar to keep it aligned with the outside edge.  not sure if it'd work on EVA, but it might...

good job.  I suspect the wider one can hold a smart phone.  I am now envious :)

What's the backside look like?  How are you holding the sides & back together?  As well as the mount to your belt?

The whole thing is  3 pieces of 4 mm foam (  2 sides and the pouch) with a 2mm detail. I cut the trim and used a heat gun to open up the groove. To attach I made a loop out of 2mm foam (2 for the larger pouch) & gave a little extra room for a belt to slide through

The small pouch is a little too small for my flip phone(don't judge me) & the larger one holds it nicely but might be a bit small for a smart phone.

I used a free template from the foam cave for a batman utility belt pouch and then just extended it for the larger one and hand drew the flap to match. The detail was from my own brain.

Extra thoughts on pouching (mostly for anybody else about to make pouches):
over in steampunk land, a craft book I have from a legend of the art, showed making faux leather out of two layers of craft foam sandwiching double-sided duct tape.  This way, either side looked like leather, and the duct tape gave it the strength to not tear easily under load.  Not sure how EVA foam compares to leather or craft foam, so it might apply.  Craft foam tends to look less leathery.

for the leather pouches I bought, the guy used too much elastic banding as the pouch strap (it was fished through 2 slits in the back of the pouch and the ends fastened together). 

Way too sloppy on my belt, so I cut them off and used 1" wide by about 4" long strip of 2 sided velcro.  That let me get it very tight on my belt

My master leatherworker guy used snaps, so his pouch snaps onto his belt.  That pretty much locks in the configuration, so I prefer my solution.

the secret to leathery texture on foam is a heat gun and crumpled tin foil pressed into the foam. Crazy effective…just don't hit it with the heat again or it's back to flat foam!

what's the next step on your outfit?

Mine's pretty much done, aside from waiting on those mythical boots.  I reckon I'm stumped on anything else I could add.

I'm waiting on some rplenishment of my "slush ffund" so I can order tunic and obi. I've decided on the short sleeves with the hood

**UPDATE -ish**

Just thought I'd post a pic of ALL my "hard parts"

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=19yP0Oyazg3SIXYiVAtvMbLOlMu8-ROAa)

Looking good.  Have you got plans for a belt or boots yet?

I just wanted to stop in to say that you have a really nice set going there. Very impressive. Nothing actually constructive to add, but what you made is deserving of praise.

I have a belt that I normally wear that I may combine with a foam piece to make a larger prequel style belt or I may just buy something.

as for boots…no plans there yet. boots are a big expensive pain

Thanks  bub! If mine turns out a fraction as awesome as yours, then I'll be happy. You were part of some initial inspiration! Appreciate the love!

***MAJOR UPDATE***

Just ordered the following from Far Far Away Outfitters

* Short Sleeve HOODED Tunic in BLACK
* Obi Sash in BLACK

Project moves Forward. Darth Malix is happy....You may all live 1 more day.

That looks fantastic. Point.

Thanks for the pointage!


can I just admit how much I hate waiting for my order to be delivered?!? so impatient…

Yep. Waiting is the hardest part.

hey folks! Been out on vacay and just getting back. I should have an update soon with my tunic/obi. More soon…

Tried to slap on the new tunic and obi today and get it squared away with some strategic velcro.

Good  lord almighty! How did these folks get themselves dressed in the morning?

I decided to try out all my known parts so far and it took the better part of an hour or more to get it right without even addressing the shoulder/arm armor. I managed to get a pic on my craptop (will share when I get time) before running out of time today…and this was just the upper body!!!

Overall the fit for the tunic from Far far away outfitters was ok (slightly snug in the shoulders) and material could have been better…microfiber?

The obi took me a minute to realize it needed to be wrapped around me a time or two but looked decent once employed.

Together with the (SirLiftaLot) cardigan/tabbard it looks nice with variations in black tones

visuals soon

Glad to have you back! I think the real reason Sith Lords have servants and acolytes was to get them dressed in the mornings! Looking forward to seeing it all come together.

yeah, it can be tricky.  Men's garb is usually easier to wear than jedi stuff. I'm used to having to help cinch up a corset.

I've heard for cosplay photos, bring a friend to help you get dressed and adjust everything.  Those pesky tabbards get crooked when you try to pin them down with the obi.

**UPDATE**

Here are the latest pictures with SOME of the items

-Tunic
-Obi
-Cardigan/Tabard
-Undershirt (maroon)
-gloves
-Gauntlets
-neck seal
-Helmet

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1zmhCPry4XvXudp1jXyzUurK26KNE03gU)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1RLfhdiBgIjFWRvwH2pAb0Aw03n8vu8P6)

Look at that, it all came together very well.

I'd like to see this with your arms out of the way and belt and greebles in place (all the hard to put on bits). What I'd hope to see is how it contrasts/adds details to the look.

So far the red and black look good, should pop well in a better photo (grainy).

But I definitely have an idea of how all the pieces look and should look together.  These were good choices.

this was posted in the wrong thread

Looks like I have a small surplus that I can spend. I'm thinking one of 3 items is possible

1) sith belt
2) cosplay boots
3) cape

What do y'all think? I'm leaning towards boots

I'm told my more-than-i've-ever-paid-for-footwear custom boots arrive today. As we'd both talked elsethread, mens boots can be pricey and hard to source. The rest is probably cheaper/easier to find and possibly no needed for an early run of the costume, whereas sneakers won't cut it.

So, boots.  Get them.

I did a little "side project" with some junk around the old Lars Homstead and made a Comm Badge for a future project.

Waddya think?

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=15iL-8ztal4tmonGx2aSXT8b_iIIkHYA5)

I splurged on a 3D printed Blade Plug from Sedsti Skyfaller on Shapeways (Moraband) so I am waiting for my next payout to my slush-fund. When I am all paid-up then I am going to purchase these:
https://www.amazon.com/Telacos-Darth-Shoes-Cosplay-Costume/dp/B078Q4L6TL (https://www.amazon.com/Telacos-Darth-Shoes-Cosplay-Costume/dp/B078Q4L6TL)

I'll have to scuff them up a bit but they'll look snazzy me-thinks!?

both the comm badge and the boots look very nice (haven't seen the plug). I like the circuit board bit.

I'd wait to scuff the boots up until:
see how they look as is with costume
try walking a bit through dusty dirt area (or sprinkle some on)

Might find a bit of natural dust takes the shine off while leaving your options open later costume choices. Like what if you have to attend the Sith Ball and need to shine up a bit :)

cookies AND the Sith Ball? Who wants to be Jedi ?!?

Boots are up next

Nobody, because the Jedi don't have Balls.

:)

Good call on the boots.

I suspect you're really close on having this event-ready

dude! I learned how to sew on press snaps...I'm danderous now  ;D

Your life will never be the same again! You'll see the pair of curtains that never stay drawn shut....Press Snap!....The stylish throwover rug on the back of your sofa that keeps slipping off.....Press Snap!.....That  pillowcase slip that never stays on the pillow....Press Snap!

You'll see Press Snap problems everywhere but now are armed with the skill to solve them. And I just saw your Comm Badge - very nice...you know you could attach it with a...... ::)

Point xD

Ditto.

I couldn't think of something snappy to say.

but I bet MRG could fix that now.

…inch of velcro? *looking clueless but expectant*

Hi MRG, Yeah, an inch or two might work better...IRL military flight suits use Velcro patches and would help the badge to lay flat and stop it moving.

You know I was joking, right :-D

I think you're on to something.  You know, the whole costume would probably drape better if we attached velcro all over MRG.  Then everything would stick in place for sure.

No let's be serious Janx, if we did that then every time MRG went to a fairground or amusement park and walked past a BarFly Jumping Wall we'd never be able to peel him off of it!
(http://www.xtreme-events.eu/wp-content/uploads//Barfly-klettwand-sprungwand.jpg)

But seriously I wasn't thinking 100% clearly when I suggested the press snap to attach the comm badge - I'm a little distracted waiting for a delivery of a new friend I have acquired. He has just cleared UK Customs and should be at my home in a day or two.

A press snap would be a quick solution if you wanted to remove the badge now and then but Velcro would be better. I'll let you finish your outfit in peace....looking forward to seeing the finished project.

**UPDATE***

Just received, painted and weathered my 3D Printed "Moraband" Blade plug from Sedstii Skyfaller Designs.

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1zpm8AuVnJT2ZLTMhk-RF5E9zQM22N6F3)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1l7TAQke5dxTf2nFYF72D58Cf3Fxu4O4x)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=17P1rLnYpmRBebCj6vc7GV8Rym58gv_Re)

very nice.  Good paintjob and looks great installed.

What's next/waiting on? Boots?

Anything else?

there's always more…

Nice. Always wondered what a V2 saber shroud from them would look like. Kinda tempted to get one for my one Bane's Heart saber now too :P

Highly recommended!!

***UPDATE***

Boots ordered!!

https://cossky.com/products/star-wars-sith-darth-maul-boots-cosplay-shoes?_pos=1&_sid=367b4020e&_ss=r

Go go bootses!

***UPDATE***

Boots have arrived… I like them

I'll get pics as soon as I can

Excellent. Boot up.

looks like the costume clubs poo-poo the EVA foam for costumes in favor of PVC foam (aka "Sintra"). Looks like its back to the drawing boards… >:(

bummer.  not a big fan of costume police, and therefore not a big fan of clubs.

On the plus side, if you remake in  PVC, you have working models to go by and probably have a few ideas for what you'd do differently the second time around.

true but iI'm till miffed as their crl says EVA is kosher. I ordered some samples of this PVC foam and it's a P.I.T.A. to work with

EXCELSIOR!

I smell shenanigans. Any chance the judge is some kinda rep for the "Sintra" company

This stuff sounds like Warbla, shapable with a heat gun:

https://themandoway.com/how-to-shape-sintra-armor/

Looking forward to seeing your completed ensemble, Mrg^^

may you live a long life then…  :P