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Title: Why they eliminated the lightsaber scene
Post by: SuperSword on October 17, 2011, 02:59:58 PM
Why they eliminated the lightsaber scene in ROTJ where Luke finishes building his lightsaber and activates it and C3PO is seen in the background, I have posted the scene in the Videos board. As to why it was eliminated, I am thinking because they wanted the green lightsaber to make its first appearance on the sail barge scene. That way, it makes a much more dramatic appearance and people get to see a green lightsaber for the first time in a scene that has much more action. The same reason why, in the Chronicles of Narnia, that the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe comes before Magician's Nephew, even though Magician's Nephew comes first chronologically, its best for readers to experience Aslan's first appearance at the stone table where he greets Peter and the others.


Title: Re: Why they eliminated the lightsaber scene
Post by: Master Nero Attoru on October 17, 2011, 03:26:50 PM
Definitely.  Him igniting it on the sail barge was a big deal, and it seemed like they deliberately didn't show him having it prior (of course it was in R2D2).

Also, because that scene sucked... don't get me wrong I LOVE Luke's ROTJ saber - it's the whole reason I love green sabers - but that scene was pretty much pointless.  You can infer that he constructed a new saber (and if you can't, Vader outright says it later on in the movie).

I always advocate watching the original trilogy first for a similar example - that "I am your father" moment at the end of ESB is just too awesome to spoil by watching them chronologically.  Granted it's become so ingrained in pop culture that even people who haven't seen Star Wars know that Vader is Luke's father, but still.  I showed someone the original trilogy and they weren't aware that (spoiler alert) Luke and Leia are brother and sister - he was so surprised!


Title: Re: Why they eliminated the lightsaber scene
Post by: Qui-Tom Helms on October 17, 2011, 08:52:56 PM
What???  Luke and Leia are brother and sister????  :D :D :D :D


Title: Re: Why they eliminated the lightsaber scene
Post by: kewlkev360 on October 17, 2011, 09:03:08 PM
Definitely.  Him igniting it on the sail barge was a big deal, and it seemed like they deliberately didn't show him having it prior (of course it was in R2D2).

Also, because that scene sucked... don't get me wrong I LOVE Luke's ROTJ saber - it's the whole reason I love green sabers - but that scene was pretty much pointless.  You can infer that he constructed a new saber (and if you can't, Vader outright says it later on in the movie).

I always advocate watching the original trilogy first for a similar example - that "I am your father" moment at the end of ESB is just too awesome to spoil by watching them chronologically.  Granted it's become so ingrained in pop culture that even people who haven't seen Star Wars know that Vader is Luke's father, but still.  I showed someone the original trilogy and they weren't aware that (spoiler alert) Luke and Leia are brother and sister - he was so surprised!

Wait.  Vader is Luke's father!?  spoiler alert would be nice dude.... :P


Title: Re: Why they eliminated the lightsaber scene
Post by: darth tratus on October 17, 2011, 09:13:49 PM
yeah i didnt really like the new scene. it doesnt really show him doing much with it. a couple weeks ago one of my soccer friends was over, and he saw my ultrasaber. we started talking about starwars and it seemed like he knew nothing!!!!!!! i asked him if he ever saw it and he said NO. i was like WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!! MY BEST FRIEND HAS NEVER SCENE STARWARS!!!!  i made him watch 4 5 6 first because thats how i started. i think its the best way to watch them.


Title: Re: Why they eliminated the lightsaber scene
Post by: Master Nero Attoru on October 17, 2011, 09:47:21 PM
I have a few friends who have never seen Star Wars.  Totally weird, I don't even know how that happens.  Granted they're girls, so I can forgive it I guess... but COME ON!  Who hasn't seen Star Wars?!?!  What kinda world do we live in?


Title: Re: Why they eliminated the lightsaber scene
Post by: navajas on October 17, 2011, 10:23:21 PM
I always advocate watching the original trilogy first for a similar example - that "I am your father" moment at the end of ESB is just too awesome to spoil by watching them chronologically.

I never let my son know until he saw the movie. I didn't let him see the movie until he was my age at the time it came out: six. That was a hard six years as it is almost impossible for any lay person to hear the words "Star Wars" and not impersonate (badly) Darth by quoting (incorrectly)  "Luke, I am your father."

I actually almost came to blows with my great uncle over this at a family Christmas party. He started talking Star Wars and I said, "Do not say anything about Darth being Luke's father. I'm keeping that secret until he sees the movie." He thought I was joking, said, "Isn't that knowledge public domain?" har har har! Really, he knew I wasn't joking, but, thought it would be no big deal to ignore it. Just a nerd movie right? I saw him laugh my demands off like a joke, so I said, "I've been waiting to share this moment with my son for basically 30 years. You ruin this for him and me, and I knock you out right here. Seriously." Again a chuckle... then realization.

Merry Irish Christmas!  ;)


Title: Re: Why they eliminated the lightsaber scene
Post by: Master Nero Attoru on October 17, 2011, 11:25:10 PM
Hahahaha classic Navajas... well done!  I bet my gf would do the same thing, she is violently opposed to spoilers!  I'm sure she (like myself) would not want our child's shock at the plot twist to be ruined.


Title: Re: Why they eliminated the lightsaber scene
Post by: Sarich Belmont on October 17, 2011, 11:37:32 PM
I ruined that spoiler for my sister a few years ago. My response when she told me she didn't know that was, "Are you sure you're my sister?" I mean come on, you're brother and father are total nerds and our mother knows that too.

The thing that made it worse though, is that she is my older sister. You figure she would have found out about in that four year headstart that she had on me.


Title: Re: Why they eliminated the lightsaber scene
Post by: grave13 on October 18, 2011, 11:14:35 AM
Irish Christmas rules!!!!


Title: Re: Why they eliminated the lightsaber scene
Post by: SuperSword on October 18, 2011, 04:11:21 PM
Speaking of the eliminated lightsaber construction scene of Luke in ROTJ, I was hoping for a similar scene in ROTS. Such a scene would show Vader building his signature red lightsaber and activating it, it would've been a good scene.


Title: Re: Why they eliminated the lightsaber scene
Post by: grave13 on October 18, 2011, 06:21:08 PM
I would have like to have seen a lightsaber being made. In the movies


Title: Re: Why they eliminated the lightsaber scene
Post by: SuperSword on October 18, 2011, 08:43:55 PM
I would have like to have seen a lightsaber being made. In the movies
Well like I said, it should've been done in ROTS, with Vader and the red lightsaber.


Title: Re: Why they eliminated the lightsaber scene
Post by: Yega on October 18, 2011, 09:12:45 PM
I know guys who have not seen ANY of the Star Wars. And they have the audacity to say that is is stupid!!!!  >:(  >:(   >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(
I don't know about you guys, but when I hear someone bashing on Star Wars, I feel like choking them, with the Force........

Im not married, but I want my son (No, I do not have one yet.) to have a similar experience that I had with Star Wars. Im thinking about making a post about it. One of the best days of my life. :)