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Way of the Saber => Saber Combat => Topic started by: Cang Snow on September 26, 2017, 12:01:52 AM



Title: One of the most powerful attacks you can pull off
Post by: Cang Snow on September 26, 2017, 12:01:52 AM
Hello! It's episode 5 of Lightspeed Saber League (http://www.lightspeed-saber.com)'s New Move Monday, where every Monday we share some great moves for you to try out in the field! We're now halfway through our first season and we thought we'd share a big one with you all: the Switch-lunge. This one was actually kind of hard to describe, as we have a lot of different variations based on the same footwork. We ultimately distilled it down into this simple to learn action, but showed some of the advanced application in the end-video examples.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TfMqy2k01w&list=PLCMyxWzNT0g1GQIgjC4y-_OymcXMMy6E7&index=5

This is personally one of my favorite moves, but I'm not even the league's most prolific user. This is our man Eli's bread and butter and he earns oohs and ahhs from the crowd with every point.

As always our moves are specialized to use of the Lightspeed blade. If you are using any other blade, please exercise extreme caution. Remember, it's never worth hurting anyone over.


Title: Re: One of the most powerful attacks you can pull off
Post by: Master Althalus on September 26, 2017, 06:16:36 AM
Just to stay true to expectations:
This is called a Gran Passo in Bolognese fencing.  ;)

I just don't get the "switch" part (a question of nomenclature, basically). As you are essentially making a long passing step, you're switching the leading foot there also, don't you?

In Bolognese fencing, we have the "cambiare di piede", where one foot is retracted besides the other and then the other is brought forward, so there's a real "switch" of the feet in place (more or less). Something similar is used in your Slipcut.


Title: Re: One of the most powerful attacks you can pull off
Post by: Cang Snow on September 26, 2017, 06:40:09 AM
Just to stay true to expectations:
This is called a Gran Passo in Bolognese fencing.  ;)

I just don't get the "switch" part (a question of nomenclature, basically). As you are essentially making a long passing step, you're switching the leading foot there also, don't you?

In Bolognese fencing, we have the "cambiare di piede", where one foot is retracted besides the other and then the other is brought forward, so there's a real "switch" of the feet in place (more or less). Something similar is used in your Slipcut.

I think it is best described as a hybrid between the Gran Passo and the Cambiare di Piede. A passing step is made, but the front foot recedes, but only enough to place the weight of the body quickly over or past the leading foot. So unlike the Cambiare, it does not recede all the way back to meet the trailing foot.

I have not used the full foot switch as you describe, so I cannot compare. But in my practical development, I have found that attacking off a Switch-step is faster than attacking off a passing step. It may be dependent on your stance, however. If your stance is very narrow, the results could be different. What do you think?

This may be due to my personal training, but in my mind the action has more in common with the flunge, as the body weight is thrown forward and power is generated from both legs while placed relatively close to eachother.


Title: Re: One of the most powerful attacks you can pull off
Post by: Master Althalus on September 26, 2017, 10:03:37 AM
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It may be dependent on your stance, however.
Everything depends on your stance, that's why I have two different ones in Form I and II for Functional Fiction.  ;)
This move is really good from a forward-oriented stance, where you can pivot over your leading foot. Doing it from a more evenly balanced stance or a backward-oriented one (like classical sabre) requires weight shifting, which results in a slower step.
From this stance (evenly balanced), often I use a jumping motion to compensate.


Title: Re: One of the most powerful attacks you can pull off
Post by: DarthProdigal on November 17, 2020, 10:40:41 AM
Very cool, great demo.