Saber Forum

You know...in the tradition of the popular Random Thoughts thread...another that focuses on Star Wars random thoughts.

Pics, ideas, visions, questions, quotes, etc.

Keep it clean and family/work friendly  :D


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Han Shot First!

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Good idea Rel. So, in the spirit of a random Star Wars thought, I still remember the chills I got when I heard Old Ben Kenobi speak through the Force from beyond death. I hope the new movies will give those same kinds of chills and feelings of something so much bigger to a new generation.

Agreed...I have high hopes!

Just finished watching the Angry Video Game Nerd's video on Star Wars games. By the way, if you don't know who he is, you stink! ;D Anyway, the Star Wars game for the NES is hilarious. At the end of one of the levels, you crash your speeder into the Mos Eisley Cantina in order to finish the level. So guess who shot first? Nobody! Luke just runs Greedo over with his speeder ;D

I used to have that game! I still have the SNES version: Super Star Wars. I also have Super Return of the Jedi!

I have nothing ;)

Have you guys seen these considered ideas for the Millennium Falcon?


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Wow, no I hadn't seen those! Pretty amazing!! Have y'all seen this?

(https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/12/12/lJYL-fhhikGDL7EMnZo2bg2.jpg)

http://roflrazzi.cheezburger.com/scifi/page/9 (http://roflrazzi.cheezburger.com/scifi/page/9)

Lol the falcon looks like it has ovaries!

 ;D

Hehehe yeah, it does.

Greedo shot first.

I mean...

*changes identity and hides underground*

“You’ve never heard of the Millennium Falcon? … It’s the ship that made the Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs.”

(http://www.wired.com/images/slideshow/2007/04/gallery_starwars2/Fisher-Hamill-Ford-Mayhew.jpg)

I have to say I would not mind seeing the "Adventures of Lando Calrissian" developed.

Donald Faison (of Scrubs fame) has wanted to do a Lando-centric series for years, and I think it would be good to see other facets of Lando...

I second this...we need more non-force types getting some air time  :)

Good point  :D

"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."

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That pic always makes me laugh!


I am not trying to seduce you

When I dance they call me Macarena
And the boys they say que estoy buena

They all want me, they can't have me
So they all come and dance beside me
Move with me, chant with me
And if you're good I'll take you home with me

Dale a tu cuerpo alegria Macarena
Que tu cuerpo es pa' darle alegria cosa buena
Dale a tu cuerpo alegria, Macarena

Hey Macarena!
(Ay!)

So, here is my random thought...

I think that lightwhips are awesome.

Just for you then.

(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/316/0/3/03bf2080574fcf1362c739c717b125d3-d1w6pqa.jpg) (http://th03.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/080/d/b/darth_lash_by_jamesjiaxu-d4thf4q.jpg)


(http://th04.deviantart.net/fs50/PRE/i/2009/297/a/4/Cyla___Vipera_Woku_Commander_by_hapajedi.jpg) (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/191/e/4/dark_lady_of_the_sith_lumiya_cosplay_by_alyonadangel-d56rfou.jpg)

Point for fantastic pics.
 

    "Everyone dies. It is the final and only ever lasting justice. Evil exists; it is intelligence in the service of entropy. When the side of a mountain slides to kill a village, this is not evil, for evil requires intent. Should a sentient being cause that landslide, there is evil; and requires justice as a consequence, so that civilization can exist. There is no greater good than justice; and only if law serves justice is it a good law. It is said correctly that law exists not for the just but for the unjust, for the just carry the law in their hearts, and do not need to call it from afar. I bow to no one and give service only for cause."
    ―Boba Fett[src]
 Mandos Rule!

That last lightwhip is most impressive. I need to learn how to make one....

It looks to be a standard LED saber tube with a cluster of outdoor LED light ropes

(http://www.ledwholesalers.com/store/images/uploads/ropelight11_2.jpg)

But most of the finished ropes in DC voltages are $$$.

There are inexpensive battery driven light tapes that could be run into flexible clear hose and equal the same effect for 1/10th the price.

:)

Darth Gekido, thank you for the point.

I know there's one guy who has made a few Lightwhips, and actually has a video of him testing them out with a few friends. They also attempted to see if a single lightsaber would be useful against a light whip, and 9 times out of ten, the lightsaber wielder would be taken out before getting close. Obviously they didn't have enough saber training.  ;)

I believe you would be correct Rel in your analyzation.

I want to see Corellia in the next trilogy.

So do I.


Also, the world needs to see the Incom T-65.

I am curious what the attitude towards the GunGuns and JarJar in particular would have been if he were presented in a serious role, a rich mellow voice, calm, stoic, strong.

Just saying.

:)

They would be just another serious species, like Mon Cals. Not the fabulous Gungansa wesa all know and muy muy love.

Lol true true

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Was thinking recently about the Separatist remnants. They existed, and that's an estabilished fact, and some of them survived to join the Rebel Aliiance. But they received much less attention than the Imperial Remnant. Probably it's because the Empire vs Confederate Remnant conflict is kinda evil versus evil; however, with the Sith gone from the Separatist leadership, they wouldn't be so evil anymore?..

I have wondered about that as well. I'm no fan of the Battle Droid, but I have to admit a Rebel Squad with a couple Destroyers and Supers would make for interesting fan art.

Palpatine used annihilator droids on Byss after the Clone Wars and some leftover baron droids actually overthrew the only settlement on Arzid in 16 ABY. Other than that... "At the end of the Clone Wars, a command signal triggered the simultaneous deactivation of all Separatist droid forces." Any remaining Separatists would've been pretty vulnerable and probably went into hiding from Vader and the Hands.

Gizor Dellso reactivated a lone factory on Mustafar, but the 501st quickly put a stop to that...

Some crime lord accidentally activated a bunch of Buzz Droids in the Falcon's hold once, before she got that name. Bought them on the black market after the war. They got loose and then attacked the Imp cruiser that was trying to arrest him. That was interesting. ;D

And Luke fights one at the start of "Survivor's Quest"...

Your pretty much right on that for the most part. In the clone wars cartoon I think around season 3 or four? A meeting between republic and separatist senators came to an agreement to end the war, but a separatist attack was launched on coruscant dissolving the hopes for peace and count dooku killed the separatist senator who with padme's help brought forth the proposal for the separatists. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mina_Bonteri (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mina_Bonteri)

Droids, unlike the organics, can be deactivated and can be activated again with no harm. There are numerous records of mass reactivations of battle droids; Gizor Dellso, the Reconquest of the Rim campaign (as described in the Guide to Warfare and Guns of Kelrodo-Ai), etc. While Vader's deactivation commands paralyzed the droid armies and drove the navies to retreat, it in no way completely stopped them.

You know, the Sep Navies were largely impounded for some years after the end of the war, and eventually sold off at government auctions or scrapped as I understand. Perhaps a number of droids met the same fate? There could be whole private security forces of first gen battle droids out there.

I'd really like to see some B1s and B2s in the service of crime lords like Jabba, customized with exotic or unique weaponry and bright/personalized paint jobs... B3s, not so much. I wouldn't mind it if the Imperial Remnant or the GA reprogrammed some of those, but a personal militia? No way.

In order to impound the navy and resell the droids, the Empire needs to estabilish full control over all Separatist territories. And these territories still have organic and very angry Separatists. Hence Reconquest of the Rim, the Western Reaches operation, the operation against Gizor Dellso and others, in fact a continuation of the Clone Wars.
And the Confederacy may have colonies and outposts in the Unknown Regions such as the western galaxy or the halo. Here's where a Deep Core-like situation of warlordism can emerge and be sustained for years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKWVCv8uWDI# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKWVCv8uWDI#)

Palpatine was right, the Jedi were planning to overthrow the Republic, hence the Clone Army. But what Palpatine(who they knew who he really was all along) didn't tell Anakin was, that the Sith and the Jedi were allies. The plan was to take over, then split the Galaxy evenly between the two factions. However Palpatine betrayed the Jedi, and took power all for himself.

Then Palpatine married Waru and they lived happily ever after.

My random Star Wars thought: Why in the begining of ANH, does Leia speak with a little bit of a British accent?? But then acts like a bad-ass the rest of the movie??

Defense mechanism, I should think.  IE, put on "official" voice and get the soldiers to listen to their civilian "boss".

Yeah...but, Obama doesnt do that...LOL

People adopt multiple roles in society - how a teacher speaks to a student is not how a teacher speaks to a colleague, nor is it how they speak to a superior.

Leia, in ANH, is assuming the role of a superior to the rank and file soldiers, which she nominally is, and so adopts said tone.  However, they have their orders from a higher authority, so her tone is ignored.  Once she realizes that using the vocal intonations of her office won't work, she drops them.

Or - they wanted Carrie Fisher to sound more "regal" at the start and then dropped the accent.  Which sounds better?

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Would anyone else be amused by the idea of a Jawa Jedi?  Or a Jawa Sith?

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Aww cute :)

I loved Jawas until they were revealed to be skanky rat people...I preferred the air of mystery.

sigh

 :-[

A Jawa Jedi would be hilarious.

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Do people in the Jedi universe often live longer due to spending so much time in hyperspace or at least traveling quickly in normal space (faster to the speed of light you get, the slower you age), or do they live longer on average due to the technology?

While technically the following people are still within the average lifespan of people on Earth, they generally are not still as active as these people are, and are showing more signs of aging.

Han Solo - Born 29BBY, active beyond 43ABY (minimum age of 72 and beyond, not really showing much in the way of aging.

Boba Fett - Born 31BBY, active beyond 40ABY (minimum age of 71, and still having an active lifetyle, although he does comment on his getting older when Jaina is being trained and he's working with his granddaughter).

Lando - Born 31BBY, active beyond 40ABY (minimum age of 71, and was due to have a child in 40ABY)

Wedge - Born 21BBY, active beyond 44ABY (minimum age of 65)

Personally, I would say it has more to do with the advancement of medical technology than hyperspace. In Han's case, however, it's just stubbornness.

Well, actually all the running from stormtroopers probably does wonders for your health..... if it doesn't make it dramatically worse lol.

Your time in hyperspace is still time.

The clock ticks regardless.

If a man sets his watch at birth and lives for 100yrs, then he is 100yrs old.  How others see him due to time away and time spend in cold sleep or in hyperspace is relative to their local reference.

If there is any extended lifespan, and surely there are a dozen ways for a human to do so...connection to the force, data transfer/cybernetics, high end med-tech, witchcraft/sorcery, hypno-toad, etc.

More than likely the average person can expect what we think of as a normal human lifespan, 85-95 +/-10yrs.  But the quality of the middle age, 30-50 is stretched out right to the point where the body is worn out and then fades quickly...so one could expect to stay at the health and look of 30-50 through out their 85-95+ years.

Hollywood age magic...

Tom at 50
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Jaclyn Smith at 64
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Dick Clark at 74
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And there are non-famous people or not all that good looking people that are fully fit and youthful into their 70-80's...the is not the norm but I suspect in the Star Wars setting it is.

So is Disney gonna pick up Star Wars where Ep 6 left off??? With the same people?? That would be pretty cool.

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I doubt it will be right where EP6 left off, not a whole lot happened that was interesting.

My question is will they go off of a book, or try to come up with something on their own?

It was already discussed that they would not be following a book...though they may take some elements or characters...it should be new.

 :)

Well, hyperspace's entire purpose is to stop that "twin paradox", "time dilation" and "everyone's long dead when you return" crap. So I think it doesn't cause any age discrepancies, and greater human longevity is a result of better medicine. It was also mentioned that human lifespan is shorter on Tatooine, and I've already written afew unflattering words about Tatooinian medicine in the thread next door (it's more backstreet chop docs, midwives and snake oil salesmen than gerontologists). The correlation is obvious:Tatooine = frontier medicine = short lifespans, Coruscant = Sufficiently Advanced medicine = long lifespans.

I'd actually extend that to cover most of the Outer Rim Territories.  Reputable doctors who are affordable aren't readily found.

Been around for a while of course but worth another viewing  :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPdJdEFilaU#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPdJdEFilaU#ws)

Just that sort of thing that offered up that sith were a viable option for characters...sigh.

 :-\

For an MMO to succeed, kinda has to happen.  Especially to keep balance between classes.  I mean, if only one side gets to play as Force-users, it kind of makes every other class non-viable, and the product would tank.

Very true indeed!

Very true. Unfortunately, people forget that that's the actual reason for it and view the Sith as just another set of abilities, even outside of the game.

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HA!  :D

^^ Nice!  Point.


Also... new Clone Wars episode tomorrow!!!  Huzzah!!

I'd really like to see Boba Fett in Episode VI.

...So why not just watch it? ;)

He's already there, you know.

Fairly sure he meant eps VII   ::)

No, I am entirely certain that he hasn't seen ROTJ ;)

Say whaaaaaaaaat?

:/

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 :D

Thank you.

Re-reading The Legacy of the Force series, and it's my belief that Caedus is the weakest Sith Lord ever... a child in Darth clothing. Great books, kind of a disappointing villain.

And the most well known illustration of him looks... well... like an enraged teen. Pathetic and a little funny.

Him? Weak? I actually thought he was OP...

Not weak in terms of power, but character. And yeah, kind of OP with Force abilities.

Ah, I see. He struck me as a bit weak early on, but by Invincible he seemed fairly tough, if resigned. Knowing the exact circumstances behind his fall helped a lot and I understand why he would've been a bit emo towards the beginning.

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Seemed appropriately random but eaqually intriguing and I must share.

About as perfect a random SW thought as it could get.

 ;D

It's completely correct, however random it may be... the light from the most distant stars visible is billions of years old, so we are viewing the universe at its birth. I'm not so sure about the intergalactic battle part, but it's an interesting idea anyway ;)

I was reading Star Wars: Allegiance today and it suddenly occurred to me:  technology in Star Wars is still the 1980s.  Mara Jade has a piece of personal electronics large enough to hide a lightsaber in!

There's, in fact, a mishmash of technology from 1980s to modern day. The monitors on X-Wings, TIEs and the Death Star are very dated looking; the datapads, however, are the very modern tablet PCs, only with holographic technology.

I think it struck me as odd because I haven't read any books that take place during the OT - era for years.

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Whoa...that does look interesting.

 :-\

Do you have a link to a larger version of this?

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I'll see if I can find it Luna.


@Rel: I posted that same picture in the Disney Acquiring LucasFilms thread.

Sorry for the double post, I just wasn't able to edit my last one.

To answer your question Luna, unfortunately I don't have a larger version of that photo.

But I do return with a few more Episode VII photos:

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(http://theactionelite.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/star_wars__episode_vii_heir_to_the_empire_poster_by_bort826tfworld-d5aqohx4-402x600.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcq5ex334j1qm3qa2o1_500.png)

(http://www.deviantart.com/download/283255818/wip___star_wars_episode_vii_movie_poster_by_joeshmoe59697-d4on5l6.jpg)

(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/343/a/a/star_wars___episode_vii_poster_by_boup0quod-d5nk0yw.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WvMrLQqS9rw/UKz7lpH0jlI/AAAAAAAAX10/91sUhUbXS_M/s1600/STAR-WARS_EPISODE-VII_POSTER_2015.jpeg)

It is fun to see how inspired others are by the potential of what eps 7 could be  :)


This one...a bit of yikes for me...Luke comes across as little effeminate?  Which in real life and for any given character in general might work just fine, but somehow this is not my vision of an older, wiser, stronger Grandmaster Luke...not so much an androgynous Saturday Night Luke...looking fabulous.

(http://www.deviantart.com/download/283255818/wip___star_wars_episode_vii_movie_poster_by_joeshmoe59697-d4on5l6.jpg)

Egads!

Lol

I was encouraged to seek a few others  :)


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The last one is a funny of course  :D

        Man lives in the sunlit world of what he believes to be reality.
        But... there is, unseen by most, an underworld, a place that is just as real,
        but not as brightly lit... a DARKSIDE.


        The dark side is always there, waiting for us to enter, waiting to enter us.
        Until next time, try to enjoy the daylight.

   I know, I know, that's actually from the old Tales From the Darkside show, but it fits my mood lately.

I see your Episode 7 (Darkside) and raise you a one (Lightside)

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Finally found the larger version for you Luna.

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Thanks! Here's a point.

That would be a good one for Legacy series.

Thank you kindly.

How come we never see anyone smoke space cigarettes(or whatever they would be called) in SW?

They do actually...death sticks.

But thankfully there is only that reference...though I suspect sith smoke in the dark behind their curtains of lost hope and humanity.

I think death sticks are a warning against smoking... they shorten the consumer's lifespan, after all, and only the seedy people/establishments carry them.

I always thought Death Sticks were supposed to be the SW Illegal Smokable. Assumed regular cigarettes and cigars were around. Matter of fact, I believe I've read some EU with them in it.... just don't remember which books.

Niles Ferrier smokes a cigarra in the Thrawn Trilogy. :)

Death sticks are narcotics in the Star Wars universe.

Quoted: Death sticks were a mild hallucinogen primarily sold on Outer Rim worlds, but could be found in abundance on Coruscant. Originally developed in the illegal pharmaceutical labs of CoCo Town, they were relatively cheap and were smuggled into the clubs of cities by slythmongers. The cilona extract offered euphoria in exchange for a horrific outcome, producing a twisted version of reality enhanced by bright colors. With each dose, the user's life was shortened, and the successive dosages took away larger chunks from a lifespan. With each successive dose, the desire for a harder reaction increased. It was thus very difficult for a youth to shake off their addiction without medical assistance.

Tobacco exists in the Star Wars universe in one form or another. Death sticks are like liquid LSD.

You are correct.

None of that information is given in the movies, so the otherwise uninformed viewers probably envision a cigarette-like object, and will be left with that vision until they look it up (which in all likelihood they won't).

I can agree on that. I just thought I'd clear that up in case people on here weren't informed.  ;D

In fact. When I saw Episode II when I was around 10 I believe, I thought they were smokes.

i thought they were supposed to be drugs when I saw them.

Lando (and other minor characters) smoke cigars in The Lando Calrissian Adventures, though it seems awkwardly out of place to me.  (Then again, not the best Star Wars books, either.)

Niles Ferrier does in the Thrawn Trilogy - t'bac or tabac, I forget which.

i knew death sticks were a narcotic type substance.....but god damn!

Wait, no - it was a cigarra.  I was wrong.

this just gave me a bad idea for a substance abusive jedi

best outcome

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most likely outcome

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(http://cbsboston.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/lobstah.jpg?w=420&h=315)

Darth Lobster  :)

As for death sticks, I never had a problem with confusing them for cigarettes, because in the Russian translation they were called "dur'" (which is an underworld slang term for narcotics in Russia).

Evil Yoda..... Nuff said.

I'll withhold my judgment until someone posts the inevitable pic of that. :)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfebu5fw9x1qbtwkko1_500.jpg)
(http://www.damncovers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/yoda-darth-yoda.jpg)
(http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/67/1990aa3939e245a5956d1aa692b9faf8/l.jpg)

 ;D

 ;D

Awesome!

It was a cigarra with carababba tabac, to be precise.

I am a fan of the SW:CW character Ahsoka

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But you know what is crazy?  I did a search for a good Ahsoka Tano pic...oh my my my...as they say, if there is a rule then someone will break it...so many provocative pics of her.

To be honest I had not seen her as anything but a young Jedi who was a girl...apparently she inspires a fair amount of...interest.

Anyway...I hope that Disney makes some concessions and that she survives that wretched Order 66.

:)

I like Ahsoka, too. Don't pay attention to those artists who sexualize her, they are just stupid. And I, too, think she survives. After all, she's a civilian when Order 66 hits, so she's not immediately affected.

Ahsoka would be very BA as an Adult.

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d98/English_Beauty/Star%20Wars/Jedi/Ahsoka___10_Years_Later_WIP_by_Jose.jpg)

Indeed...indeed.

 :D

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WARNING! The following is so awesome it might make your head implode!

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YOR'S WORLD HE'S THE MAN! YOR'S WORLD THE MAN!

 

You sir, just won all the internets.

On Darth Yoda - there's a moment in Yoda: Dark Rendezvous where we see Yoda's potential as a Sith.

Dooku nearly craps himself.

Hilarious stuff, that.

Oh yeah and Yoda wants a flower or something, right?

The only thing I enjoyed from Episode II aside from the lightsaber duels at the end was Obi-Wan's mullet.

(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/35271944.jpg)

Rest in peace, mullet.

That's the very one...  kind of terrifying to wonder if a member of Yoda's species ever went dark...  900 years is a long reign of evil...

Not worse than a Neti Sith. These beings live for thousands of years.

Neti are ridiculously OP...over powered :(

Along the lines of Neti, a Force-sensitive Gen'Dai would be pretty formidable, too...tough to kill, few vital organs to target, live for 4,000-7,000 years.

Being as primarily rooted (forgive the pun) in life as the Neti are, and connected to the Force from birth, it's hard to imagine a Neti Sith.  I know there's been one in canon, but how he got to that point would be... difficult for me to grasp.

Gen'Dai...  now THERE is overpowered for you...

An Anzati Sith would be really creepy, IMHO...

That would actually be pretty cool. Every once in a while, there has to be an overpowered baddy, like a final boss in a game.

After all, there was a Shi'ido Sithy once :D

And a Sith Apprentice who manages to kill their Gen'Dai master is truly bad ass.

Oh yeah I think he was a Wookiee. Now let the image of a Wookiee Sith Lord fill your minds and cloud your judgement! Lol

Two words...Ewok sith...(shudders)


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 ;D

A Wookiee Sith marauder, a dark warrior, is bad ass and fearsome. However, a Wookiee Sith Lord and Master... Sith Master is a social job, and not being able to speak Basic is a serious dampener on the Wookiee's effectiveness. Not everyone understands Shyriwook. The same applies to all other species with exotic, non-Basic-capable vocal apparatuses.

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The most dreaded Sith Triumvirate: Darth Yub Yub, Darth Gunganus and Darth Tuskanus.

Was Jar-Jar the true Sith Lord the entire time??? It would make sense, as silly as it seems.

He's not Jar-Jar. He's Darth-Darth. Darth-Darth Binks.

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You slay me there you did! Haha this has brightened my day beyond compare!

Please scroll to 1:29... ^^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qAKXK_aLeA#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qAKXK_aLeA#ws)

Enjoy! :)

I've seen speculation on this before, but... what if Obi-Wan was actually Luke's father? :D

Then Eragon would rip off Star Wars even more than it already does. 8)

Haha! Yeah I like that ep! Robot Chicken is freakin hilarious!

Hahaha! I've got some of the other robot chickens on my star wars bluray, but not that one. That's hilarious

Somewhere in one of Senator Amidala's secret hiding places, lost to the ages, is a carefully preserved bag of hair - Obi-Wan's mullet memento.

Maybe she had had enough of adolescent, psychopathic whining and did a 180 for older, nicer gentlemen instead.

What happened was the three of them hit the Juma really hard one night, Anikan passed out and well, one thing led to another....that's why she kept that hair and that's why Obi felt the need to protect Luke and keep Leia hidden. To protect his children from his mad padawan turned Sith! Yay for fan-fiction!!! Lol

Obi-Wan can't be Luke's father...

Whining is genetic.

But thankfully, it gets diluted with each generation. So by Episode IX we might have a perfectly normal hero! XD

Yeah right? ^^

Most fave is the scene with Palpi on the escalator. "My Lord!"  ;D



Are you sure?!? o0

also don't have palpy on an escalator. ive got some only. my fav of the ones I have is lando with vader on cloud city, where vader keeps altering the deal lol. "further more I wish you to wear this dress and bonnet." "that was never a condition of our arrangement!""i have altered the deal pray I don't alter it any further". hehe. I love the storm troopers and fett in the background

Just for you.
Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LowVhCfLm68#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LowVhCfLm68#ws)

Aww thank you! Point for finding it for me  :D

You are very welcome but how did you like it? =)

My lord. Stormtrooper. My lord. Stormtrooper. My lord. Stormtrooper. My lord. Stormtrooper. My lord. Stormtrooper. My lord. Stormtrooper. Stormtrooper. Stormtrooper. Stormtrooper. Stormtrooper. Stormtrooper!

My fave... ^^

So glad you enjoy it to!

It really doesn't rip off Star Wars as much as people think it does.

it was funny :) robot chicken have created an entirely new side to palpy that you just dont see in the movies haha  :P

That is right!
Making him so much more enjoyable ^^
And I pitty him a lot when I rewatch the Robot Chicken Parts.

Seldom that I can watch something in repeat and enjoy it each time. :)

I'm good at rewatching series. Seen the entire archer twice, and season one at least 5 times

and I've watched firefly countless times.

the good ones are always worth rewatching

Has anyone else ever noticed that the 'Death Star Trooper' helmet is in all three original movies? Cause I only just noticed it in Empire last night. lol Someplace I never even realized anyone was standing. Hurray for insanely well detailed movies! ;D

Would you rather be born (in the Star Wars galaxy) a...

Twi'lek

or

Wookiee

(for this thought, just those two  :) )

That one's tough. The awesome powers and life span of a Wookiee, or getting to be Green, Blue, Orange, Etc... I dunno.

If I were a Wookiee I would want to be white or white blond just for the shock value.

:)

A wookie duh! Then I can get some mando armor and become a total BA. Wookie+mando = Win

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Armor on a Wookiee...a perfect formula for a special level of stinky  :)

Fun pic.

 :D

Man, I still can't decide. I think I'd be a wookiee, probably with unusual coloring for kicks. But I might lean towards Twi'lek, cause then I could convince my girl to answer blue Twi'lek.  ;D

If I could choose it would be tough...but I am leaning towards


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...if a regular citizen or living with modern conveniences, but if living a more rustic life then Wookiee without a doubt.

While being either from birth would enable you to get used to things that seem odd to us (lekku anyone?), I would have to choose Wookiee. Both species dealt with slavery, and Wookiees have trouble being understood, but I would prefer the life on Kashyyyk to, well, anywhere that the Twi'lek might end up.

Ahhh but by that logic, how about a Twi'lek on Kashyyyk, since that seems to be a selling...location, location, location...:D

Twi'lek hands down! Graceful and pretty versus large and hairy... not much of a choice lol

Agreed  :D

And as karma...how about another pair to consider?


Togruta

or

Rattataki

Gosh, what do you think? ;D

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For me the choice is easy  :D

agree! Vanity has to win there

the second combo, togruta

Hey all!

We are opening up a completely new Star Wars RP game setting, an alternate direction.

Here is the link, drop by and provide input even if you do not intend on playing.

http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=14693.0 (http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=14693.0)

There will be tons of action, lots of potential for characters to end up on the wrong end of a metal saber or find an unwanted metal slug in their bodies.

Smugglers, bounty hunters, Mando and Jedi knights, operators, rogue builders, and that is just what they show the world...there are assassins, spies, and political sappers around every corner and behind many a mask.

"When you feel the knife, expect your best friend"

No characters are safe because they are player's characters...it will be a wild wild western romp.

Please consider joining in on the fun.

PS
Redshirts are welcome...if you want to try RP without committing to a long game then join in and we will create a reasonable hidden reason for the timer to begin running.

There is a lot of leeway for characters that you would not normally play...a person with a month to live, the guy who must commit a terrible crime to save his family, and other one way considerations as well as regular types.

We seek characters with layers...

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So I have been watching The Clone Wars on DVD with my kids. My son loves Ahsoka, so I decided to look on line and print a picture of her for him. Now, Rel mentioned on another thread how hard it is to find pictures of Sith girls on the internet that are not risque. I did an image search for Ahsoka pics and OH MY GOODNESS!! There are some pictures of her out there that are certainly NOT ok for a 4 year old. I am not even sure they are ok for me to look at...but I will just have to keep looking at them until I am sure.  ;)

Yes indeed one must be very careful when searching pics...especially Ahsoka....try Ahsoka Tano Clone Wars as the google search...almost all hits are family safe.

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Best to search first and then share later.

Get a decent internet nanny program   :-\

Yeah, I did not search with my little guy in the room. I did it when he was in bed because I wanted it to be a surprise. Turns out, I was the one who got the surprise!!

This picture is cute and wholesome. However, I will never be able to un-see what I have seen.  :o

Trust me I doubt you saw the worst of it...there is...well just say it gets bad.

A common pic search led me astray once...I needed brain visine...sigh  :(

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One of the coolest things I have seen in a good while.

 ;D

So the Death Star was built by space giants! I knew it!

But really, very cool picture. I built my share of models over the years (WH-40K) so I can definately appreciate the work and detail that goes into something like that. Hope Disney sees this pic and is inspired to go back to old school effects.

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 ;D

That Bantha...thing....brings up a thought in my head.

I read, through a book of Star Wars  creatures, that there is a whole special bond between the Bantha and the Tuscan Raider society. At a young age, a raider is presented to a litter of young bantha, in which one is chosen and becomes a life partner with the raider. They grow together, learn together, and play together, eventually becoming a warrior and steed together. They even wed together, in the sense that a Raider takes a wife, the Bantha will mate and become bonded to the others bantha as well. It's said that when a Bantha's Raider dies, or the Raider's Bantha dies, the other will take to such a level of grief that they will even commit suicide.


Then I thought of all of the Raiders I have slain on SWTOR.


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That was a pic of Bantha Pug!


As for your atrocities...the chains of your sins will weigh you down my friend...weigh you down...


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For the record, they attacked me first.

Yay ya...you just happen to be looting through their burial grounds or traveling without permission through their lands...and it just happened...typical...hatred is an ugly mistress sir...ugly I tell you!

Tell that to the rest of the SWTOR players. The whole species on both sides should be extinct by now. Oh silly MMO logic.

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I know ive seen this posted here somewhere recently

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well, its from this book

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which my little sister, being the most awesomeness little sister ever, presented to me all wrapped up as a present when we visited today  :D she is always finding little things that "make her think of me" and getting them as gifts (I do it a bit too for her), and lately its all these amazing little star wars things!!!

so now I have LOTS of these funnies to look at!  :D
and shes going to buy me the "Vader and son" book for Christmas.
my sister is officially the best little sister in the world! (but I already knew that)

on the other hand, for the fun of it I put two of my sabers together as a staff today for her, and typical her just picked it up and started swinging it like a pro  ::) damn her and her sword dancing lol :P
im thinking of buying her an initiate LE for her birthday, she wants one in BR and itll be a nice present  :D

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What kid was lucky enough to have 5 AT-ATs? I had one, my cousin had one, and between the two of us we could barely re-enact the Battle of Hoth.

My AT-AT was an army of one that never, and I mean never, had a successful mission in my back yard during the Chicago winters.

Come to think of it, I don't think the snow speeder ever actually made it back to Echo base either.

And those speeder bikes that blew up at the push of a button... well they were just asking for it.

Ok, I need to stop now or I never will..... :D

lol id love to have an AT-AT!!! and it was a photo I found on 501st Legions facebook page... maybe a few of them put their ATs together for the photo. its adorable either way  :)

I think back to all of those toys and how they all got sold at a yard sale for a few bucks.

Mom said I had out grown them.....

Now I buy high end lightsabers and talk on a Star Wars forum.....I sure showed her!!  ;D

i think my mum shakes her head everytime i get a new Lego, or something else spacewarsy. thankfully shes a very understanding and patient mum!

Last Christmas my mom put a small Lego Tie fighter in my stocking, then I put it together only minutes after finding it. Yeah 22 and still playing with Legos.....[insert forever alone face here] lol

Have hope man, I'm 22 and still play with LOADS of legos. (seriously, I have cases of the minifigs on my wall) And yet I am somehow blessed enough to not be forever alone. :) (though the lady still doesn't really understand the whole lego thing, she accepts it because it's star wars and she loves me. Plus, she's a geek, so she's got several collections of her own toys lol)

On a side note, I never did get one of those mini TIEs. Got the planet series X-Wing and the Mini Headhunter, even the planet series Delta 7, but never did find it worth it to buy anything Imperial. lol

I'm 26 and play with Lego :P luckily my partner also rather likes lego

I'm 32 and still spend hundreds of dollars a year on Transformers figures.

And now hundreds on lightsabers too! :P

I am 48 and sold by bionicle collection for $400...pennies on the dollar...cost $19 to ship by slow boat.

 ;D

Anybody else ever know that Owen was originally Ben's brother?

"Your mother and I knew he would find out eventually, but we wanted to keep you both as safe as possible, for as long as possible. So I took you to live with my brother Owen, on Tatooine..."
―Obi-Wan Kenobi to Luke Skywalker in the Return of the Jedi novelization

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Owen_(Kenobi) (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Owen_(Kenobi))


In the prequels Owen is played by Joel Edgerton and Ewan McGregor's stunt double is played by Nash Edgerton.

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I knew it.  :)

i knew it! ha ! yea thanks for the conformation

Ewan McGregor is also connected to the film in another way.  Ewan's uncle was the Wedge Antilles in the Original Triology.  He revealed that fact during an interview on UK television. 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Lawson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Lawson)

Yeah I love that. 'You have to let me be in it! My Uncle is Wedge!' lol

I've never heard it put that way but lol :)

Oh yeah, I forget where I found it, but there's an interview with him about TPM where he says they asked him why he should get the part or why he wanted to be in the movie and that's pretty much what he said. lol

Why are there no all-out evil Sith? I'm talking Erzsebet Bathory in Sith form, maybe a crafty Gollum-like fellow who crawls about on all fours... most Sith created in recent years have come across as fanfic-y (Lost Tribe especially, and Revan).

Also, don't start an argument about Revan. That's not the point of the post.

Funny, I mostly see all sith as this sort of feral animal type, in some measure.

Bunch of spoiled, selfish, snowflakes.

:D

if you want an evil sith, go check out Calumnius in TOR RP- not canon I know, but he's a rather nasty piece of work!

Well yeah, they're all spoiled and selfish and somewhat instinctive, but for the most part they're somewhat sane. I would love to see some Sith with their minds fully corrupted by the Dark Side.


Thanks, I will. I've been thinking about joining the RP for a long time anyway, so I might as well read up.

Join, Luna. You will like it. ;D

*contemplates convincing Luna to join GCW RP instead of TOR* *contemplates what it would take to protect the galaxy from Luna* *keeps mouth shut*  ;D

Just kidding Luna. ;) We can always use another faceless minion of the Imperial Navy to disgrace, embarrass, and eventually vaporize in an improbably epic battle where the underdog rebellion wins by a landslide victory. 8)

how would you personally like to execute jar jar.... lets see the most creative

I might... I had an idea or two that I had discussed with Jelly a long time ago, but I've come up with different ideas since then.


Only the grunts are faceless ::)

My character idea could be either a Sith or a random sicko, so it would work either way.

Anyway, back on (board) topic.

I love jar jar why would I execute him... NOT! I hate the dude, he is without a doubt the worst character in Star Wars. Umm lets see how would I execute him??? I think execution is not the right word. I would most likely torture him first before giving him the sweet taste of death. First I would hang him by his feet upside down and use a light saber and burn his skin on as much of his body as I can without cutting too deep. Then I would hang his favorite food in front of him just out of his reach and when he try's to use his stupid long tongue to reach it I would slice it off. Then I would lay him out on a midlevel rack (the ones that would dislocate your joints by pulling you in all directions) and while he is in pain from everything else I would use the rat torture on him which would most likely finish him off. If your not familiar with rat torture it's when a cage is tied to your stomach with only the bottom proton open, and rats are placed in it. On top of the cage you put hot coals and the rats not wanting to be burned to death eat threw your stomach and wreak havoc on your insides. Yep I think that's how I would get rid of mister binks.

the rat trick a classic. you sir have taste. but seriously jar jar was the most pointless character ever, but along with saying that i dont like grievous either i dont believe they should have killed maul. they should have made him general of the droids and the jedi hunter. total waste of a great character

Ya they should have kept Maul. I like grievous in general, but I dont like the way they made him cough all the time. I understand that he coughs for a reason but it still bugs me. Have you read about grievous's history and how he became a general? Its kinda cool. I think they could have made him more of a bad@$$ in the movies but oh well.

i know his history some what and i like him in general as well but the only guy in the series to have a staff saber they kill off after a five minute fight

I know it has been said before, but I think Dooku would have been better used as a Dark Jedi than a Sith Lord. It would have added a little more depth to his character than just calling him a Sith. I realize he technically is a Dark Jedi (Fallen Jedi) but I think, this should have been explored more, instead of just calling him another Sith. He really is a character they could have done a lot more with. Maybe him and Maul leading the Seperatist army together.

I think it would have been interesting if he were a Jedi who peacefully left the Republic for political reasons (without falling to the Dark Side). If that were the case, it would have made more sense for the Council to assume that he was just an idealist at the beginning of AOTC.

At any rate, I feel like they intended to do a lot more with Dooku than they did. I doubt they would have hired Christopher Lee, one of the greatest actors of all time, if they had been planning for Dooku to be a fairly minor villain all along.

You know, Luna, that is an excellent thought. That would have made a much better and richer backstory for Dooku. It would also make his being referred to as Count Dooku make more sense. They never really do call him Tyranus and if he is now a Sith Lord, why not call yourself that? It is not like he is keeping it a secret so he can one day return to the Jedi order.

When I made my post, some how I knew it would catch your attention. Your thoughts did not dissappoint.

Point.

He kept the name Count Dooku because the Sith were waging a shadow war against the republic and the Jedi, using the separatists as proxies.  Dooku was the public figurehead of the separatists.  The Sith would not have garnered such support if they revealed their true identities.  By using Count Dooku, a once respected Jedi turned political idealist, they gathered much more support.

True, the Jedi knew he was Sith at the end of Episode 2, but having the Jedi name him that during wartime can seem like propaganda. 

maul and dooku fighting for the title of apprentice ...maybe.... no i take it back i like the dooku fallen jedi idea better

deeper tangent on dooku fallen jedi would have been nice i agree

Personally, I think the entire usage of the Sith idea in the prequels was unnecessary. Now, I am not trying to start another argument about Jedi vs Sith or even down play the existance of the Sith. But it just seems like an unecessary sub-plot to me in the prequels. In the OT, The Emperor and Vader never talk about the Sith. Up until ROTJ, it is not clear if The Emperor is really into the Force or not. He could have just been some old guy who used Vader as muscle.

Then the prequels come along and mention the Sith. But Palpatine is not trying to revive the Sith Empire, he is trying to make his own empire. I think this angle would have been better to play up rather than the, "We have been in the shadows all of these years," plot line. To me, Sidious, Dooku and Maul do not really feel like Sith Lords. This is not to say they are bad characters, but they seem to have nothing tie them togther other than red lightsabers.

I am fine with the Sith's existance in the Star Wars universe. But I think the prequels would have been better served to treat the Sith as something the "was" and is no more, and have Palaptine portrayed more as a wanna-be that dabbled in the arts rather than a master of them. I like his backstory of being a collector of Sith lore rather than him being an actual Sith Lord. And all of this would have made Dooku, a former Jedi, that much more important to the destruction of the Republic plan.

All my points are belong to you! Seriously, very well said and I agree completely. Besides, if Pruneface is only a pretender that managed to stumble upon some small level of power that he was able to refine over the years, it further solidifies Obi-Wan's claim on the Death Star. After all, how can a dead Jedi (One with the Force) become more powerful than a Sith Lord can imagine? Especially if this particular Sith Lord (Vader) studied under Pruneface, fought Dooku, heard tales of Plagius (sp?), saw Maul firsthand, and had years of study of other Sith Lords? I mean, if these are all such great, wonderful, and powerful Sith, then a dead Jedi must be nearly infinitely powerful.

I would argue that Obi-Wan's claim is made solid in that, unlike Palpatine's promise, a Jedi with proper training can truly transcend death.  The Sith to use the Force to their ends - a Jedi who transcends death as Obi-Wan, Yoda, and Qui-Gon do becomes one with the Force, a much deeper bond.

Anakin might have been capable of their level of power - had he been undamaged physically.  But the injuries he suffered placed him into the armor, which hindered his power greatly.  While still powerful, he was a shadow of what he could have been.

You're also assuming that Palpatine taught him everything...  Palpatine may have quite deliberately held back.

Very true and good points. Mostly, I just wrote that to be ragging on the Sith ;) just being silly

Is it just me...or would it seem that even though Vader was in that armor 24/7/365 that he probably did not stink as bad as Palpatine did? I mean pruney looks like he would really smell something awful...all roasted rotten meat kind of smelly...those gross folds and deep wrinkles filled with sith stench and dark side ichor...if he smells like he looks, then he could make skunks faint or even die at first whiff.

 :-\

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I really believe he did just that.  While other Sith going back to Bane held to the Rule of Two, Sidious did not.  Sidious never intended to train an apprentice to such a degree that they could usurp him, something that was a key tenet to the Rule of Two.  Sidious intended to rule the galaxy for all time.  His "apprentices" were really just enforcers for his will.

hahaha! Love the look on the face of the girl in pink!

I randomly learned today that a member of the 501st is a professor at my college, and that he apparently regularly attends his classes in his costume.

Why have I not taken his class, and why have I not noticed this?

Because you have apparently been experiencing fail? :-\

What is his costume? I mean, there isn't much in the 501 that isn't Stormtroopers, officers, or Darth Vader. I think it would be hard to miss a guy in a big white plastic suit teaching class. :D maybe you need new contacts. ;)

I saw a woman at an event dressed like Juno Eclipse.  Now if there was a teacher dressed like that, I don't care what she is teaching, I am in that class.

According to the person that told me, He's either a Sandtrooper or a speeder bike Scout Trooper. And that's exactly what I'm thinking. I attend a relatively SMALL campus, so it'd be hard to miss a person dressed as anything Star Wars. Especially where I am located.

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LOL

That is awesome! :D

Indeed! Hey, It's Big Bass! When did I miss your return to the forum? Welcome back buddy!

Yep Iam back haven't posted officially that iam back yet and things are all well at home and my niece is adorable. I will have to get some pic of here on here. Anywhoo end thread derail.  :P 

AWESOME! Yeah, you definitely need to share some pics of the littlest mando. ;) (Bo Katan for her first Halloween, perhaps? lol)

Anyways, yes, back on topic. My random star wars thought: At least one of my many local Wally World's is now out of TCW Season Five. Because I just bought the last one.  8)

I should really go about finding it....

Or, I might get the set of all five seasons on Blu-ray. I have seasons 1-4, but only 4 is Blu-ray.

Yeah... I'da bought the boxed set, but all I was missing was seasons one and five... so it just makes more sense to buy the individual sets.

I bought tall the episodes on iTunes.

ive only got season three on dvd :( but a free to air station here that's got all the kids shows has been playing clone wars, and we are currently in season four, so im slowly seeing them all!

Trust me, Season Five is the best. ;) (matter of fact, it's the only reason I started buying the show! lol)

Yeah, it was my favorite season out of them all, the only drawback was the Droid Arc... The only good episode in the whole Arc was the one with Greggor.

I enjoyed that one alright, but then again that's mostly because I bleed Pilot Orange and have a built in soft spot for the 'mechs.  :) And I did love the bit with Greggor, I know he must be vapor, but I'd love to see him show up in one of the final episodes. (Personally, I think he looked better with the beard though. lol)

I definitely agree with you concerning the beard, but the plot seemed long and drawn out... It was sad though to see the green cone headed droid fall into hyperspace though.  :'( you will be remembered... Whatever your name was...

BZ. At least he won't remember what happened...  :D Poor little guy...  :'( (Though I always thought being vented in Hyperspace would just atomize you across a few parsecs without much time for endless floating)

I'll eventually get to it. Though at this rate I'll know the whole thing before I see it :P

That'd be a shame, there's some really awesome surprises in S5. Oh well, at least there's always the special episodes that haven't come out yet! :)

I can't remember why, but I got stuck about halfway through S4. I think the last episodes I saw were with the Papanoida family. I've been re-watching some of S3 recently as 4 and 5 are on my Christmas list.

I like the look of Rebels, though. Jumping forward to the Jedi Purge seems like a cool time to be around the universe, as it's the great unknown era for me.

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I've always thought of myself as Chaotic Good. Going by Mara Jade's logic.....I agree.

I'm more or less neutral good these days.

I see myself as Lawful Neutral.

A direct link for a better clean view...


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Lawful Evil, as always. Kriff.

Lawful Neutral...yep   :-\

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Sometimes how I feel.

Oh, and Happy Birthday, Carrie Fisher!

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KIDS SAY THE DARNDEST THINGS.......ABOUT STAR WARS.

So my 4 year old son told me he needs a red lights saber just like Darth Mulch. I laughed, he did not understand way.

Ahh, kids.

lol, that's wonderful! Thanks for the chuckle!

Point for the laugh :)

During the trash compactor scene, Mark Hamill (Luke Skywalker) held his breath so long that he broke a blood vessel in his face. That's why many of the shots show only one side of his face.

As Luke and Obi-Wan enter Mos Eisley via Luke's speeder, Dash Rendar's ship, the Outrider, from "Shadows of the Empire," can be seen lifting off from the space port. The ship was added in the special editions. (THE BEST EDITIONS)

If someone using a Lightsaber struck a Vibroblade with sufficient force, would the Vibroblade break?

Lightsabers can cut through vibroblades without any particular effort, unless the vibroblade in question is made of one of very few lightsaber-resistant materials.

A lightsaber-proof vibroblade would presumably break under enough force.

really?!

edit- huh, how bout that, that could indeed be a YT2400 taking off! point for the awesome random fact Kham!  :D

why do we never see a dude with a lightwhip?

Didn't all of the "slavers" in that clone wars episode have them? Or was some other sort of whip weapon?

*shakes fist in the air* KHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  >:(

lol Okay, I'll admit I like to watch ROTJ in the Special Edition cut. More blasterfire in the star battles.  8) But otherwise, THEATRICAL FTW!

i have yet to watch tcw.

Because women with whips are... well, you know.


I don't think they were actual lightwhips. They only delivered a shock IIRC (it was a sucky arc so I haven't watched it in a long time).

speaking of clone wars, they've started airing season 5 here on tv :D yey!

You have now!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmhpbOIDGsQ#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmhpbOIDGsQ#ws)

Starting a new Star Wars RP game in the T&P section...not just for training!

The section allows you try characters that are unfamiliar, such as a recent sith player who wanted to try her hand at being a Jedi...through our failures we learn much about ourselves lol.

The section also allows me to provide setting that are unconventional and out of cannon context, like this one...post apoc Star Wars...the Jedi and the sith are more Marshals and Spies, respectively with most having no or only limited connection to the Force, blasters are rare with slug throwers the constant, sabers are nearly all made of metal with light sabers being one of the most rare tech known, except for hyperdrives...working hyperdrives are exceedingly rare and valuable...most travel is once in a lifetime, you stay where you end up for the most part.

The new plan is mapped here with potential options for the adventure.

Stop by and see what is what...monkey butt!


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Ok all!

Great adventure and success!

Here is where this little story ends...or does it?

These are the options I am considering for the next post apoc storyline...input is most welcome and any related other thoughts will be considered!


1. the crew of the Sand Spirit continue their adventures together...jump to 10yrs later...characters can be the same as they were though advanced 10yrs or new ones that have been picked up along the way!

2. the Blue League, a branch of the Jedi Order have found a moon with an unusually high connection to the force...the moon is completely covered in layer upon layer of intertwining jungle with the lower levels being referred to as hell...all characters are Jedi knights, 1 minor Force ability, a protosaber (power supply and cable), and a blaster...most alien species are welcome (not 100yrs old shapechanging godlings...just the mundane normal types lol)...the sith are close to finding the source...the Blue League must succeed!

3. the Black Hand, a branch of the sith order...have found a moon with an unusually high connection to the force...the moon is completely covered in layer upon layer of intertwining jungle with the lower levels being referred to as hell...all characters are sith warriors, 1 minor Force ability, a protosaber (power supply and cable), and a blaster...most alien species are welcome (not 100yrs old shapechanging godlings...just the mundane normal types lol)...the Jedi are close to finding the source...the Black Hand must succeed!

4. on a remote mining world something happens, the people are afflicted with a horrible sickness that warps their bodies and minds, creating mutate monsters...it is up to the valiant Storm Trooper company to hold off the mutants until reinforcements arrive...characters are civilian miners/related as yet not affected or storm troopers/Impie soldiers.

Thoughts?

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He would do the role so well ! ! !

i meant in canon but thanks.

Too lazy to cheat with Wookieepedia. What is Grievous's species? What does he belong to before his cybernetic implants made him into a brain & stem, a heart, lungs, and eyes? And of course before Obi offed him

I know there was an episode of CW where Kit Fisto & his former padawan went into his lair, but I don't remember it explaining what he is.

Kaleesh.

Sounds like an insult!

"Hey what was his species?"

"Kaleesh"

"Whatever, no need to be rude!"

lol


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So I got someone in my ear about doing panels at Phoenix Comic Con. When did I become a Star Wars expert?

when you joined this forum. i seem to be the local expert in my town.

For my random Star Wars thought: I'm approved!

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Very cool Ben!

On a side note, the inclusion of the maple leaf in the icon is quite clever  :)

I hear rumors that Disney is going to resurrect the dreaded "Christmas Special," to air on Disney Chanel... :-[

It would be a blast to see again lol!

Thanks! I was pretty excited!

And the maple leaf is very interesting! I can't take credit for it, but I do like it.

I've been approached by Phoenix Comic Con volunteers about jumping in on panels for a free pass and all that... thoughts?

Welcome to Rebel Legion. It really is a blast being part of events where so many people are dressed up.

Swing by Nar Shaddaa Base sometime.

Go?

If I got a chance like that, I'd be right there - unless Phoenix is too far for you to travel easily.

Thanks man! I'm so thrilled! Most of my gear was made by TwinRoses and I couldn't be happier with it.

I can't afford my X-Wing pilot costume, or else I'd join the Legion as well. Why must cool things be expensive.....

Because they're worth it, lol....that and materials are expensive oftentimes. Maybe look at getting one piece at a time, as you can afford it?

Someone needs to put Mando armor on my wheelchair...with a flamethrower...and whipcord launcher.  Forgo the jetpack, I don't drive well.

I live in Phoenix, probably a ten minute drive from the convention center. That won't be a problem.

don't forget the mini-missile launcher!

Pfft.  Real Mandos use mini cluster missiles!

as a Sith i appreciate the art of overkill. dark point incoming

It's only overkill if it doesn't work.  ;)

Would you like an Arc Reactor on that wheel chair as well? Adamantium armor? A Hyperdrive? And maybe a Flux Capacitor?
Wow this would be a sweet wheel chair....

That's what I'm doing with my Civil War gear. My main problem is actually going to be making the jumpsuit, since I have no sewing skills, and I can't afford to have someone else make it.

I understand! IIRC, there is someone who makes them for $50-$60 on Rebel Legion

Really? I must look into that!

Actually, last I looked FINDING the right jumpsuit was quite difficult, because they seem to have discontinued the orange one(it was just a pair of Walls or Dickies work coveralls in orange, with pockets and such added.) Hopefully either he or I could get one.

But I have to wait, Stonewall Brigade uniform is my first priority right now.

I'll see if I can find the link for you!

EDIT - Here it is! http://www.rebellegion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=38573&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=225 (http://www.rebellegion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=38573&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=225)

Eh, not really.  A cup-holder would be nice though.

I DON'T REMEMBER MY USERNAME!!!!!!!! Curses!

Thanks for the link though.

My pleasure! You can always go for a new account :)

no. it is overkill when the target could have been dead with something 5-10x less effective but you do it anyway because it feels good. like smashing a single cockroach with that giant hammer ship used in the clone wars against Mace Windu.

I would do that every day if I had one of those.

lol dark point or light?

I subscribe to the philosophy that you blast your target until it goes down and then you blast it again to make sure it stays down.

Light please 8)

Double tap. What rule number was that again? lol

More like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63CyaosU1V8# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63CyaosU1V8#)

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A guy named General Rieekan, pronounced rye-can.

perhaps you Mandos can help me here.
what is that greeting phrase you use that translates to "So, you're still alive" and how do you pronounce it properly?

Yes I did have to go and double check spelling and pronunciation. :)

Speaking of rank...how is it that Han, (and Lando for that matter), is a general and Luke is only a commander?

Su cuy'gar

I'm not sure if there is any official pronunciation stated. 

Soo COO-ee-gar!

Tion'ad hukaat'kama?

 ;D

Vor entye

How much would an X-Wing cost in real life?

Billions at least. The ISS is estimated around 100 billion and NASA's next generation launch system is estimated at 35 billion.  Those don't even have shields, laser cannons, proton torpedoes, or astromech droids, so peobably a great deal more than those.

Psh. NASA. Doesn't even put a basic 'Mech in their budget. ::)

Point. I loved that it gave me a laugh. :)

Wedge's Gamble puts it at about a million credits, I believe - but it's been a while since I read it, so I may be off. Might have been a sixth of a million, as I can't remember if Erisi's 12 million was meant to be enough to buy a squadron or a wing of starfighters.

Now, try and figure out the credit:dollar exchange rate... ;)

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Hmm in real life, about $18.49 give or take.

That just sent me into a fit of uncontrollable giggles. :D point

how long untill holoprojectors are a thing?

they are a thing

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from: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2008/05/27/1211654006265.html (http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2008/05/27/1211654006265.html)

big publicity stunt thing done earlier this year in Australia by the leading telecommunications company. Im sure there's been similar elsewhere in the world.

The article reckons it'll be commercially available in 4 or 5 years.

how long untill i can get a holo deck installed in my spare room?

That picture makes me think of Richard Attenborough from the ride into in Jurassic Park.

Disneyland will probably be full of them soon, if not already happening.

*points to haunted mansion holograms* Maybe not QUITE the same, but still... ;)

yeah those mirrors were trippy

How about those great examples of original fan created Star Wars aliens?

I found a great one!

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Neat

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i like it. point

Terrible thing... a place called Filmbar in Phoenix is showing the Christmas Special on the 18th. Not sure if I want to see that debacle.

Welcome to the...

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You might want to change BAT**** to, "Have you gone guano?" to adhere to the forum rules.

Friendly suggestion

good point...I will get on that, thanks.

where is this Death Bar?

dark point btw

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That is the main ingredient in my nerf pot roast

Nerf, huh? Ever heard the phrase, "tougher than a two credit nerf steak"?

That is why i use a slow-cooker. And i only buy free-range nerf shanks

I feel like the Sith aren't doing anything good for themselves nowadays.

Dark Lord of the Sith used to mean "HOLY MOTHER OF ALL GUNDARKS, I'M JUST A JEDI MASTER, I CAN'T DEAL WITH THIS! PLEASE KILL ME QUICKLY, OH GREAT DARK LORD OF EVIL!" You had to be a freaking great hero to kill one.

I'm not sure exactly when it happened, but now, Sith are basically just Jedi with red lightsabers and hormones. Heck, they even have a code! People like them as something other than villains! What the frell happened?

It used to be that two Sith were enough to threaten the Jedi Order, now armies of Sith aren't enough.

I haven't noticed much of a change in Jedi power (nothing consistent, anyway), but Sith power has gone way down.

Abeloth is what the Sith used to be. Not ability-wise (because Abeloth would literally eat any Sith, with the possible exception of Vader because metal is difficult to digest), but conceptually.

I feel like they should've left the Sith as some mysterious ancient threat.

This may seem odd coming from someone who doesn't like Sithies, but they just aren't decent villains anymore. I would totally love the Sith if they were proper villains again rather than emo objectivists (I'm looking at you, Vestara Khai. You belong in Twilight).

What you speak of is the whole reason Bane insisted on the Rule of Two, if you ask me. The Darkside was spread thin among the ranks of The Brotherhood of Darkness and real understanding of it was denied to what was mostly ex-Jedi with little actual knowledge of the history or true power of the Sith. Bane was disgusted enough with what these "Sith" were to go looking elsewhere. Think about that... these guys were powerful enough to fight the Republic to a pretty vicious stalemate and carve out an empire of their own, yet Bane thought they could do more? Now, being a Jedi myself I have the following commentary on all things Sith... many claim the name, few rate it. Even Krayt's order is a mere shadow of what Bane established. I think the best Sith villain should never be revealed. He should Keyser Soze his way around the Jedi and the Republic, existing only as a phantom, a rumor that can never be proven but should never be denied. Most lack the patience for this.

Interesting observation, I am biased toward the Jedi, but great heroes need great villains and the Sith have moved in a direction that doesn't interest me story wise.

All of the last couple thoughts...yes.

Emo objectivists indeed.

Lord Keyser Soze for the win.

Yes...many claim the titles...very..very...(waits to establish a dramatic pause)...very few rate them.

Soze is one of the greatest villains ever because you're not even sure if he's real.

They already did this with Sidious. He was the ultimate Sith; the great successor to Bane's line. I'm not sure you could do the same thing all over again and try to pass it off as new. Eventually, you can't S(no)oze your way around the galaxy forever, coexisting. They're the Sith, with the ultimate goal of destroying the Jedi and ruling the galaxy. They're not parasites.

I have to agree with Luna here that the Sith were best left in the past. I think they should be something the "was" and "are no more." An ancient and mysterious threat that nothing now lives up to.

Sidious was not a great Sith Lord in my opinion. Using an army of preprogramed clones to take over the galaxy just does not seem like the Sith way. Compared to some of the stuff Malgus' did, Sidious' plan seems like cheating.

I like the backstory of Palpatine being a collector of Sith lore and I think it should have been left at that, and not have him a master of these arts. This would fit well with his plan and attitude, kind of like the tales of the Nazi's dabbling in the dark arts. Palpatine as a politician toying with the Sith arts that he taugh himself is a good angle I wish had been played up. A man who picks and choices the parts of an art that he wants to use rather than studying it as a whole. And then trying to teach his half learned arts to a pupil....all of this would make a lot more sense, in my opinion.

There is just something about this "last in a long line of Sith Lords" that just does not work for me.

I'm a bit confused. You're agreeing with me that Sith should be left as a mysterious ancient threat, but saying that the concept "does not work" for you, and referencing Malgus as a good example of a Sith.

I am saying that the concept of Palpatine as in the prequel movies does not work for me.

I see Malgus as being ancient. Part of the Sith when being a Sith Lord meant something, as you put it.

Palpatine as a continuation of that line does not seem to fit right...in my opinion. The Jedi thought they destroyed the Sith 1000 years ago. If that was a fact, and Palpatine was someone who taught himself the Sith arts rather than be a direct lineage of the Sith....that would make more sense to me and be a better fit in the series.

MOST Jedi believe that the Sith are no more...  but Yoda, the Grand Master, states in Episode I, "Always two there are, a Master and an Apprentice."  Meaning that at some point during Yoda's 900 year life span, a Sith or someone claiming to be one was encountered by the Jedi.  Maybe quoting from a holocron, arguably, but that sounds more like someone quoting fact.

I always took what Yoda said to mean that IF the Sith were back, that they always work in pairs. I never took it that he always knew the Sith were still around.

All of my previous thoughts are just a hypothetical, alternate spin on the back story that I thought would make for a better story. Others have said they think the Sith would be better left in the past and I agree.

But even Sidious messed up the vision. He ruled the galaxy, sure, but for a couple decades with no credible successor (and always hotly contested by political intrigue and rebel movements). In that, he failed. Why reveal yourself? Rule the galaxy through replaceable proxies, if you must rule, but the age old grudge with the Jedi got the better of Sidious and he just HAD to do it in a big dramatic sweep. Exposure makes you a target.

Okay, reading the Bane Trilogy and Darth Plagueis might make you all appreciate what the Sith had to become in order to rule the galaxy; they were still powerful practitioners of the Dark Side, massively so, but they also had to become masters of commerce and galactic politics, cunning and espionage; they only numbered two at any given point in time and managed to move entire star systems.
"...Politics dies to thunderous applause..." The Sith did that, Sidious culminated that. He ruled for almost two decades and the reason there was rebellion was because some of the ex-politicians didn't like being out of the job (oversimplification but the point still stands; there will always be rebillion to any order), and the successful Rebellion was Palpatine's own making, anyway.

And to be fair, the movies do the Sith no justice. Their exposition is shocking throughout the entire saga.

I agree, I just read the Bane Trilogy and am working on Darth Plagueis. Shady stuff.

Why should the movies do the sith "justice"?  They are evil.  They are the bad guys.  The public does not want a sith forward movie...only a handful of fanboys and fangirls would.

Seriously.

Forgetting all this emo sith hugging that has come about due the EU, video games, and "off off off broadway" stories...Uncle Lucas intended the sith to just be bad guys...villains.

 :o

You're stupid popularised Sith are the emo dudes, not the Banite Order.

And when I say "do justice", I mean justice in their explanation and backstory. The Sith in ANH are just there (in fact, the whole OT, the Sith are never explained beyond "they hate the Jedi and destroyed us, now we must destroy them because they are evil"); in tPM, the Sith meet on a rooftop and discuss finally (WFT?) destroying the Jedi, do some battle and get chopped in half; in AotC, nothing is related to the Sith until the very end when Dooku and Sidious are finally seen together; and in RotS, even when Anakin is converted doesn't really give a good reason why the Sith Order is the way it is.

The Sith are the bad guys in the movie because all we know about them is that they are what the protagonist is struggling against. Uncle Lucas had some good ideas but could never tell a story quite right; the Sith have no exposition in the movies. It's not good enough to throw a villain in there and say he's bad because the good guy needs to fight someone. The movies never say what the Sith are, what they stand for, why they are the way they are; they are only defined by what the protagonist needs to fight.
I'm not saying make the Sith the protagonist, I'm just saying that they need a reason to be, and a reason to keep going. The EU in necessary to fill in all the character motivations lacking from Lucas' films.

Do the Sith need more of a motivation than 'Rule the galaxy'? I mean, not a city or a country or a planet... The entire galaxy. The power of life and death over trillions upon trillions of living beings all under their command. Absolute power.

Anyway, I'm not even sure the Sith are named as such in the OT - Vader and the Emperor are Force users who call on the Dark Side, while the light side is never specifically named in the OT either. It's enough to know that they've corrupted the Force, and everything else is secondary in terms of their motivation.

I think, in a lot of ways, we've been spoiled by the Expanded Universe, which can dig far, far deeper then the movies ever could. To read about Darth Bane and the Brotherhood of the Sith makes for a huge shift in the reader's perception of the Force, I think - but you don't need to know about all that to enjoy the films. It's enough to know that they're part of a secretive order, opposed to the Jedi and set on ruling the galaxy. It's storytelling shorthand - the detailed why and how aren't needed in a story that (in terms of Episode IV, at least) is all about the hero's journey.

If you want to be taken seriously in your defence of anything, or if you hope to make an intelligent argument, you should learn not to begin your post with the words, "you're stupid". Insulting someone for disagreeing with you or holding counter views is not the way to have an intelligent, respectful discussion. I had considered ignoring this post and continuing to browse through the forum, but that kind of attitude is not warranted or appreciated and needed to be addressed.

I really do not mind if someone wants to root for the bad guys....to each their own. But I can not and will not pretend that the Sith are anything but that.  

Let's call a spade a spade here....Anakin killed children. What more argument of the Sith's character is necessary?

Sidious was nowhere near the ultimate Sith.  The ultimate Sith was the Sith'ari, which is Bane.  Sidious was just the last guy in the Sith line and the time was right for the Jedi and the Republic to fall. Sidious broke the Rule of Two, by never really training his "apprentices" to replace him.  He intended to rule the Empire forever, never being usurped by anyone, Sith or otherwise.  Several EU novels depict this, especially Darth Plageuis and the books after Reurn of the Jedi.

Now that the dust has settled and the smoke has cleared, let’s take a moment to reflect….

We all have our preferences when it comes to Star Wars characters. That is the beauty of the Star Wars universe, there is something in it for everyone. These Sith vs Jedi arguments get particularly heated because, hey, we are all human and those who post on this forum are passionate about Star Wars. I find is amazing that we do get so passionate about Star Wars and this is a credit to Uncle George’s creation. It stirs up feelings in us and that is want a good story and good characters are supposed to do.

For reasons deep inside of each of us, we choose a side in the Force. Others choose different sides and we may never agree. We are all too deeply rooted in our beliefs so arguing will gain nothing.

The Force is truly strong with this group…..whichever side of it each of us choose to align with.

Well said that was, hmm!

WOW, I'm really sorry guys! I meant "your" not "you're". I wasn't meant to call anyone stupid. I'm sorry if I've offended anyone; it was meant to describe the emo sith that have become popular of late, THEY are the stupid sith. I'm sorry my grammar wasn't as tight as it usually is.

I think you misunderstood my post.

I stated that the ancient aspect should remain mysterious.

I was referring to real-life chronography, not SW chronology. My point was that recently (IRL), representations of Sith have become poor. This includes most (if not all) representations of ancient Sith.

I have no further thoughts on the subject but I wanted to clarify my standpoint.

Make a post that is not what you want to read and you call me stupid?

That is a good one.

Uncle Lucus can't tell a story quite right...millions of fans would disagree.

But hey what do I know?  Apparently I am stupid.

Good one.

Being that this is a friendly and family safe site that promotes good feelings and warm fuzzies for all, I will refrain from a much warranted and deserved backhand return to that serve.

Looking with hindsight, could nearly any movie be better in a particular aspect if a certain consideration was made different?  Sure maybe.

That there should have been more screen time and story percentage dedicated to sith is an interesting thought.  But they were relegated to roles with basic, simple, and yes I will say it stupid stories and methods because the movies were meant to support the heroes.

But hey Disney has the reigns now, maybe there will be a more satisfying sith back story and character motivation with the upcoming movies.

PS
PM me next time you want to sling insults, this way I can respond in a more appropriate manner.



Guess I took too long to post a response lol.

Yes agreed, emo sith are sad and stupid character profiles.

:)

Thank you, this is what I meant. I'm so very sorry for any offence; I truly did not mean it like it was read.

No worries!

It was fairly harmless but I kept the response up so some of our newer members did not get all crazy and think it would be ok to start flaming each other for grins  :)

It is all good in the hood!

This most recent bout of Jedi vs Sith has got me thinking a lot. I am not trying to reopen the debate, just throw out a few musings. This is not so much a random thought as it is a deep thought….

I liked Star Wars when it was simple.

When I was growing up, I lived and breathed Star Wars. I was bullied a lot as a child and so Star Wars was my escape to a world of heroes I could emulate. The universe was easy to understand, black and white. There were good guys and bad guys. And yes, I said bad guys.
 
Everything about the Empire was specifically designed to depict them as evil. The Stormtroopers helmets are supposed to give the suggestion of a skull. Vader’s helmet is modeled after the stahlhelm. The ships are large and imposing. Their main weapon is called the Death Star. In the 1980’s, there was not much question about who played what role in that story. Star Wars was a space aged fairy tale of good verses evil.

You had some depth to the story. Han Solo was the edgy character but turned out to be the scoundrel with the heart of gold. Vader was the ultimate bad guy who redeems himself at the end. I still think about his find words to Luke, “You were right about me,” referencing Luke’s feeling that there was still a little bit of good in his father. Vader did not try to justify his actions. He did not try to say that he was really just misunderstood or that Luke had misinterpreted him. I always took it that at the end of ROTJ, the Force had forgiven Anakin. In the original version of the film, with Sebastian Shaw, I always saw a bit of humility on Anakin’s face as he stood with Yoda and Obi Wan.

Along come the EU, video games, prequels, and the altered versions of the original films. Now we have a backstory for everything. Literally everything. Look up anyone or anything on wookieepedia and there is a full write up about it. The EU has filled in the backstory so much as to be counterproductive to the best part of Star Wars, its simplicity and innocence.
 
The Star Wars universe has become a Quentin Tarantino like universe in which the good guys are bad, the bad guys are good, and nothing is what it seems. Perhaps this is a sign of the times; the jaded and cynical world that we live in. But in my opinion, the world we live in is all the more reason to keep Star Wars the way it was.  It has gone from being a fantasy that can inspire us to a thinly veiled model of our own world.


I do not know why this little anecdote comes to my mind but it seems relevant so I will share it….

I have mentioned that I used to be involved with WWII reenacting. I portrayed an American infantryman. There were guys who preferred to dress like the Axis powers and I will admit that that side had some cool gear and much more stylish uniforms. There was definitely an aesthetic appeal to them as well as a taboo appeal.

One weekend I found myself at an event called a tactical battle. This is an event that is not open to the public. There were no displays, no choreographed battle for the public. It was an event for the re-enactors to play war games. This particular tactical event was very much lopsided in favor of the Allies. There just were not that many Axis re-enactors that showed up for some reason. I was asked by a few guys if I would trade sides, just for the purposes of the battle. I figured, why not? They changed out my helmet, coat, kit and rifle. It seemed cool at the time. The very first encounter changed my mind.

I was dug in well near a curve in the road. I was well camouflaged and I saw the Americans coming before they saw me. I had them. I drew down on the first soldier…and I could not pull the trigger. There was something that bothered me about pointing a firearm (even though it was full of blanks and this was all part of the “game”) at an American soldier. I made noise so that they saw me and let myself be “shot,” then never returned to the battlefield.

What bothered me was that I was an American soldier, a reservist. I never fought in a war. I am not a veteran. I never did anything significant. I was not even really an outstanding soldier at that. I was just one in the crowd. One of many reservists. But I still could not bring myself to commit an act of violence, even mock violence, against one of my own.

The moral of this story is I believe that there is a point where make-believe becomes too real and requires us to reevaluate it.

Thanks for listening. Have a good weekend, Saber Forum.  :)

May the Force be with us.

Excelent point Jedi of Chicago. I never stopped to think about things from a conserviave standpoint. The straightforwardness is probably what resonated with me and kept me interested enough to sit still long enough to watch the ot as a youngling. But being only 4 when tpm came about seeing a much more action oriented side of this magical saga of space-wizards and laser-weapons really dug the hook in deep.

I suppose the thing I always notice about the Jedi path for me is that it is about choice and the real bad guy is never external, but rather the monster you could become. That's where I've gone with it in recent years. Your war in Star Wars is always you, be it those light/dark moments in a video game or something more real where you try to live as a Jedi. I guess I also read too much Zen swordsman type stuff too, but that kind of shapes this view. I try to be the sword that gives more than it takes in my own participation in the universe, ready to bring battle to the doorstep of evil but never willing to resort to evil for my ends, even if my intentions are good.

I understand and don't all at the same time. I play some Axis and Allies, and you have to play the Axis side, in fact its the fun side, you act first you control the action, you get to dictate the course of battle. The men I play with I've won both sides but the Axis is the most fun, you get to be the person you could never by in real life.

Different people have a different level of belief they can suspend. Some can't play a Sith, some can't watch Avatar for more then 5 minutes. I understand where you are coming from Chicago, I  don't believe as you believe but I understand what your saying.

That's interesting, chicago. I've never done that in real life - been on a few cadet training missions, but there was nothing especially different about the other sides uniforms, of course - but I have real problems playing bad guys in video games. I just empathise with the 'good' NPCs too much. I have the same problems when reading novels about 'bad' guys - I don't find bad or criminal behaviour seductive, even if it leads to great rewards.

The only time I can remember coming close to supporting the bad guy was watching Scarface - Tony Montana was a realistic and somewhat sympathetic protagonist, but the film never really showed the effects his cocaine was having on users other than Tony himself. Had it done so, it would have been harder for me to have much interest in his ultimate fate.

I wonder if I'd feel the same as you if placed in the position you were in.

It's not really the bad or criminal behavior that seduces. It's more of the story behind the villain, behind the "Bad Guy". It's their character, the personality, the motivation. If you are like me, there is both the good and the bad within the human, within the psych. But it's more to that. If you notice, the most popular villians, the most popular "Bad Guys"...are the ones with the most tragic stories, or the most intricate psyches. Sure some of them are bad, just to be bad. But others, others have deep stories behind them. The question that appeals to us isn't about them committing what is, to our social standards, morally wrong or violating the law set before us...but WHY are they doing it? What motivates them to commit some actions. Some are heartbroken. Some are doing wrong to present a better justice. Some are doing it to teach lessons that we cannot teach others every day. It is that part that appeals to the fans of the villain. Not the action, but the meaning behind the action. The story.

For me, it's easy to play a sith or dark jedi for instance. While there is the power behind it, there is more to it than that. There is the meaning to put emotion behind my actions and character. There is the conflict of "right" vs. "wrong". While there is the capability if writing a backstory behind a Jedi figure, I could get more intricate with a Dark Sided persona.

This brings me to why I love the Extended Universe. While the original films/Lucas' works were very black and white....the EU provided and continues to provide a broader spectrum. Some people like the straight, "simplistic" path of the Black/White Star Wars perspective. But others, such as myself, love the complex levels of the EU. It gave us an opportunity to insert ourselves, our works, our characters into a Universe that appeals to us. It allows us to forge paths that we would take, or might take, in a Galaxy long ago, far far away. In a sense, it is more real to us, not in the sense of it being a Sci-Fi ideology but in the sense that it allows us to be just as complex in the EU as we are in Real Life. In the real world, there is no black nor white. There is an entire spectrum that goes forth within each and every individual. It gives us a "real" experience.


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Point to Kitsune!
Lots of people just like badguys because they are immature and uncivilised, this gives all badguy sympathizers a bad image. But the above is exactly why people started liking villans in the first place. Also the comment about a more real experience hit pretty close to home.

In the end, IMO, based upon a life full of ups and downs, highs and lows...it is much easier to be bad.

It is much easier to blame having a hard life, being sad, or being heartbroken.

It is much easier to just say to hell with it and do what you want instead of what you should.

It is easier to relate to those who do what they want instead of those doing what needs to be done, should be done, etc.

And it is far more a response I believe to video games leaving the option to play evil or bad guys, this makes it seem ok and just the same as playing a good guy.

All that was mentioned about having heartache, hard life, etc. this happens and molds the good guys too...they just seem to rise above it instead of letting it drag them down.

 :-\

That's not what I meant by my statement about those things such as heartbreak and downfalls. I realize that, but being the villain allows an individual to experience and play with the darker side of these things. Again, it's about the story. In the end, it is the same as playing a good guy, but the experience and outcomes are different. Different people handle different situations..well..differently! It is no easier making a "villainous" choice than it is a "just" choice, as they both draw on moral and cultural values.

As a culture we are endowed to view the good guys as those that "Rise above the rest". We culturally accept bad guys as the "Dastardly ne'er do wells that want nothing but destruction" and who are "emotionally unstable". But in the end, it falls into the psychology of the character. These were ideals presented to us in media, in books and literature; in film and digital mediums as well. While it is nice to have a black or white definition of something...it often causes the undermining of what it means to truly be human, to truly indulge in the psychology of the character.

A villain to some is a hero. A hero to some is a villain. In the end, they are only human by our standards. Leaving a book unwritten, while entertaining, leads to the misconception of the psychology of the character or persona. It leaves blank spaces, thus making them inhuman. Of course, to each their own, but in the sense of practicality nothing is simply a two-sided coin.

I am with you brother...like what you like!

There is room in our collective hobby for everyone to find a place, somewhere.

:)

So, are you saying that if you were in the Star wars universe, you would do the things the Sith do? Why? And for that matter, how does it help your point that it is ok to favor them?

It depends on the situation. My Sith character is a fictional, nonexistent being in the realm of my imagination. In a situation like that, there are many possibilities that I cannot describe simply because I am not experiencing any of them at this moment. I would have to be able to see myself growing up as a force-sensitive entity in the Star Wars Universe, which is impossible since I am not of that universe. That being said, it would also depend on my experiences, and my psychology in that universe as well. In this world, I am a generally rational but also very emotional person, so I haven't a clue. If I followed any of the paths I did in this life in the Star Wars Universe, I'd probably come out as some sort of Dark or Grey Jedi, simply because of my own viewpoints and experiences.

But to answer that, it is pretty much impossible unless I could exist and experience two separate universes (one of which being a fictional idea) at the same time. I cannot answer, because I do not know. I am not in that Universe, now am I?

Let's say you were teleported there right now, with all of your experiences of this world in mind and having full knowledge of the Star Wars universe already. Would you sill go along with the Sith, knowing what they are all about?

Just curious.

I am not a force sensitive, so they would probably kill me.

Say that I was, however. I would, as stated, probably turn out to be a Dark Jedi or Grey Jedi, or perhaps something similar to Revan in a sense. I can't answer that because it's all experience based. If you were to take me now, the darker parts of my mind would say, "Psssh...of course!" There is a lot of hate inside of me, a lot of pent of anger and frustration. Emotions I haven't been able to let out in the real world. I go through abuse in my family every day, and what I wouldn't GIVE to you know. Take care of that. But my rationality says I cannot, because I'm not a stupid individual. But I do like the idea of having power. Of control. Of being a dominate, dark force. Which is why I have a very high self control practice in my life, because I don't even trust myself.

But did I ever say I supported the Sith? I did not. I simply play my characters as part of one. There is a difference in between reality, and fiction. But in the end, it still intrigues the mind. Some of us like that dark story, simply out of what it is. That doesn't mean we support it. It just interests us.

I do not know how to continue this conversation without it becoming too personal.

I am sorry for whatever you are dealing with in this world.

I deal with my own struggles, as does everyone else.

We all deal with things in different ways.

Thank you for your honesty.

It's not a problem at all. I'm just wondering why it went from Fiction to Reality. I was simply talking about why the villain intrigues the individual as much as a hero does. XD


 

I think it went that way because that was the theme of my post a page or two back...."when does make believe become too real"... and that is where my mind has been.

I guess we just got lost in the ebbs and flows of the forum. :)

Oh that would make sense. I had forgotten about that post, but I did read it. That is a very intriguing topic too, because it does relate to those of us that enjoy the roles and stories of the villain.

Why?

Because we're also sane people! (For the most part. This is an ideal statement XD)

That is one of the reasons I can enjoy making a villain character or persona for something. Because it isn't real. I can make them into the perfect villain if I wanted to, or a hearty, honorable mastermind (which is where I usually fall into when I play the villain) without having the struggle of moral value or issues with my real self. As a rational person, I am capable of distinguishing my character from my real life self. Simply an actor playing a part in the musical, so to say. Though, I will say it is very fun to get in character when gussied up in my gear and fool around with my friends while we are in costume. =P

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Weren't there actually 3 Sith'ari? Wasn't it King Adas, Marka Ragnos, and Bane?

I wish I had a house like the Lars'.

That would be a neat house,

(http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20071123205741/starwars/images/f/fc/ITW_Lars_Homestead.jpg)

I like that they included Luke's Skyhopper.

No, Sith'ari was a title, but tied to a prophesy of sorts.  Adas claimed the title but that doesn't make him the Sith'ari. 


According to the wiki, The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia names Bane as the Sith'ari.

Ah thanks Nova 2! I got a little confused after reading the Sorzus Syn part of the Book of the Sith.

According to the wiki, the author of The Book of the Sith intended for it to be a sort of joke that every in universe Sith character who added to the Book of the Sith came to the conclusion that they were the Sith'ari.

Wow, you all really need to brush up on your lore.

Jar Jar is obviously the Sith'ari.

Thus says Robot Chicken, thus say us all.

All's I thought it said was that King Adas was the first, but all lore points to the true Sith'ari as Bane. I know Bane was the Sith'ari, after what happened in his novel trilogy I have no doubts whatsoever.

And yes, Jar Jar was the TRUE Sith Lord during the Clone Wars! Lol
"Oh yeah, yousa manipulateses meesa. Hehe hehe MWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!"

Was Qui Gon Jinn the first Jedi to become a Force ghost?

No.

The Arrandas need another series.

Or at least a novel.

Tyler Perry presents: Meet the Calrisians!

Point for phobious!

Thanks! I can't imagine Madea running around Bespin...too horrifying!

I just reread all that Sith'ari confusion and i think that having multiple Sith'ari would be feasible, but i would expect at least 5-10 thousand years to separate each one

Agreed

Certainly room for it as the most powerful Sith of an era, but beyond that I just wouldn't buy it.

Why is Natasi Daala so much better than everyone else?

I would hazard a guess that any level of competency that she had was due to writer's favor?

 ;D

I don't know. Until recently, everyone else - authors included - seemed to hate her.

I've only read the first two books she's in, but I like her okay as a character. She was one of the first Imps I read that actually had, ya know, depth of some kind. I found her interesting, what with the whole crush on Tarkin thing.

BTW, why is it all the female Imps had to have a romantic thing for some higher ranked old guy? I mean, we got Isard rumored to have a thing for the Emperor, Daala with Tarkin, and I guess they never say Mara had a thing for Palps... but it sure seems implied to me. *shrug* Just seems weird.

Well mara's affection could just be chalked up to the sort of relationship any padawsn has for their master but intensified due to the gender difference. That and women tend to gear toward a man in charge. It's a mammalian thing.

On a related note, anyone know of any opposite gender master-padawan pairs in the Jedi order, or is that shunned as temptation or something?

Oh! Yes! I know one! Only one, but I do know one! Padawan Darsha Assant. I forget her Master's name, but he was a male Twi'lek, if I recall correctly. Very cool pair. She had a yellow lightsaber, as I recall. Second one I read about.

Thank you. I just wanted to know the precedent. What species was she and what era?

I'm guessing you mean in the books or something? Since there's the obvious Ahsoka and Anakin duo in Clone Wars

Yeah...I'm pretty sure the Jedi Order didn't shun at all against teams of padawans and masters who were the opposite sex of each other. You see it ALL over the place in the Star Wars Universe. It's just there. There weren't many explored in the films but it's evident that it's as common as same-sex teams as well.

Darsha was human, and her era was immediately before the prequels. She was in the book Darth Maul: shadow hunter. Great book. Leads right up to tpm and has some obi wan and Palpatine cameos in it. And a droid named I five. I five is win.

Random note*

Point to Manny for his nice Shock review.  Didn't realize they made the regular Shock with the grooves on the pommel now, looks fantastic!

I had forgotten aboud Ahsoka as i have yet to watch the 3D Clone Wars

And yes, I 5 is win. I read one of the Corucant nights books. The one where they find Kaj Savaros. He also has a large chunk of win.

The only Clone Wars cartoons worth watching:

[img width= height=]http://animationaficionados.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/good_clone_wars.jpg[/img]

The new CW series is worth watching from the third season on, although there are good bits before then, too. You're missing out if you haven't at least seen seasons 3-5.

S ason five made me reaccept the show after the whole dathomir debacle. It was that good.

It's not even remotely close to Canon, but depending on your characters gender in SWTOR there's plenty of opportunity for opposite gender Master/Padawan pairs.  

What about Anakin and Ahsoka?

Mace Windu and Depa Billaba.

Jorus C'baoth and Lorana Jinzler.

Kyle Katarn and Mara Jade, for a time.

Mara Jade Skywalker and Anakin Skywalker.

Jaina Solo and Kyp Durron, for a time.

Jocasta Nu and Jerec.

Thanks everyone. Points to all contributors!

Dooku had a female Padawan as well - Komari Vosa.

i would also like to throw in:

Master Ven Zallow and Aryn Leneer

Quinlan Vos and apprentice Aayla Secura

I'm in the process of watching Season Five. I'm definitely enjoying it! Im up to where Ahsoka has just been accused and has rabbited.

A sort of parody of the Fugitive with Harrison Ford. Good movie, great reference to a SW veteran.

got linked this on Facebook, from a page called "Only Kiwis Will Get This".
The designs might be lost on some of you who don't know a bit about Maoris, but I know there's more than a few people here that will appreciate this work of art :D that and its just awesome

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It does look good, a real interesting moko art piece.  I often forget my own Tā moko until new faces of shock appear before me.

 ::)

This is beautiful. I love Maori designs and traditions. It's a fascinating culture in my opinion.

I am working extended hours to keep the plant running through the cold weather. I spend way too much of the night outside in the cold.

It is so cold, it hurts. Actual temp is -12. Real feel is - 38.

Echo Base looks like a spa by comparison.

I'm living the dream out here on Felucia, jungle islands are my favorite.

It is a bit chilly out here on Yavin 4 (Hawaii)

 Anyone know a hot planet that still has forests and beaches? Otherwise I guess I found a small corner of Tatooine where its still sweltering, but there beach on one side, forest on the other

The beachheads on Kashyyyk?

Hmmm Earth?

 ::)

 ::)

What is the worst official piece of Star Wars media?

Book, TV episode, video game, etcetera.

For me, it depends on what makes it "worst". If it is quality, then there will be all kinds of options. If it's story, again, many options. If it is for giving a false sense of the Star Wars universe and making people think that every character is a special snowflake, KOTOR series.

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/1057347/snape-clapping-o.gif)

I was going to say something along these lines...special snowflakes lead to acceptance of sith as a good choice...and this is a bad thing.

 :-\

Dark Saber. I rest my case.

+1

+1

Kotor would be my choice as well.

Holiday special, hands down

Dark Saber is worse than even the Holiday Special, at least with the special there were some good props and a neat cartoon to watch. Even if the old wookiee was kinda creepy and the effects shots were all recycled....

I have never seen this Holiday special. From what I've heard that may be a good thing

Yavin 4, idk why i thought Felucia. Too many Pan-Galactic Gargle Blasters i guess.

In other news, does anyone know where Ithorians grow hair? Thw wook said they have it but didn't specify where.

I expect the hair is peach fuzz.

What about Masters of Teras Kasi?

I really liked that game.

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Also, I just found out that Obi-Wan's homeworld is called Stewjon.

Oo! I know the worst piece of SW ever! And i own a copy! The 1978 Marvel comic #6; The Hunter. Anyone wanna buy it? Excelent condition, i only read it once. It has gimmicky adverts and a rant about procrastination by Stan Lee.

This one?

(http://www.covernk.com/Covers/L/S/Star%20Wars%201977%20series/starwars1977series6.jpg)

Well if one were to assume excellent to be mint...in sleeve...$35-$40 if the 1st printing and $5-$8 if second printing.

I bought it right off the rack when it came out, as a wee lad  :)

If this is the worst SW media you can think of then I suspect you have not got out much  lol.

Dang, Vader's lightsaber is huge.

#16 october. My bad. Title the Hunter.

Yep bought that one also.  Mint or Near mint...$27-$30.

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Jaxxon was a quick-witted Lepi smuggler from Coachelle Prime!

"Jaxxon. You can call me Jax for short…which I ain't"

It just is not a party until you have a green rabbit alien on board!

I need to get up to the Green Rabbit. I hear much about him, but I don't trip over many of the comics past number 9 or so. lol

He's after the Star Warriors!

Anyone want it? Pm me. It comes inside a cardboard backed sleeve near mint far as i can tell

Jaxxon is the second greatest character in Star Wars.

Jaxxon is alright by me...

Sigh...I need a Star Wars fix...anyone have some blue milk?

Blue milk for a blue elephant. I'm sorry I couldn't resist!

Remember kiddies as Master Qui-Gon said, "Having the ability to speak does not make you intelligent."

Makes one wonder if it came form a blue cow?

Hmmm

What would you guys call our music styles in SW?

Country; Corelian

Dubstep; Droid-rage

Death Metal; Sith Metal

There are actually some equivelant genres in SW canon, IIRC. I know nothing about them but someone else might.

Country should be Nerf Ranching (or something like that)
I'd agree with Droid-Rage (gave me a good laugh that one; -1)
and same with Sith Metal

I'm down for some Sith Metal, so long as Dooku sings! Lol

Two random thoughts.

Upon rewatching RotJ the other day, I remembered that I used to think that only Jedi used sabres and the only reason Vader used one was because he used to be a Jedi. There's certainly some dialogue that implies that, and at the time I hadn't seen TPM (it might not have been released yet).

I'm currently reading Splinter of the Mind's Eye. It's awkward. I read it when I was too young to understand how awkward it is, but now... yeah.

Me too :/ the first 30 or so pages, you have to cringe through

Splinter was written to be a cheap sequel to Star Wars if one was necessary. The mist planet would have eliminated the need for costly sets.

I think I read it once and passed on my copy on long ago. I don't recall anything that I'm missing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K38f9Ie52ZI#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K38f9Ie52ZI#ws)

So in this preview of season 6 of the Clone Wars, what species is the one shot and her sister?

 :-\

A near-human without context or other?

They don't even look like the same species, despite apparently being sisters (although perhaps they are not sisters in the literal sense). A Nautolan offshoot?

Also, I feel like I watched certain bits of the preview ages ago. I know it's been around since last summer, which is a fairly long time for this sort of thing, but it seems like I saw the Jedi who was shot before S4 was released.

Maybe it is your latent precog abilities being fueled by excessive corporal consumption!?

 ;D

Screw the female alien species, whatever she is. I want to know more about that Spider dude. What an interesting character...

He's from season 2... and yes, he's very interesting indeed.
Admiral Trench (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Trench_(Admiral))

I must have missed that. I watched most of The Clone Wars, but I missed a few segments of it due to college work and time management. Fancy character though. I like the idea of his species.

my sister saw this at a café she walked past and sent the photo to me :)

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It's not nice to joke about a lady's weight.

Corporal as in visceral...blood, blood pancakes, and such.
The noting of the same doesn't seem like much.

It was a knowing bump or at best a friendly poke,
Not a ill thump or a pesky annoying joke.

Sometimes my words are misunderstood,
leading to moments where they are hard as wood.

Endeavor for the future, clarity I will,
as Master Yoda might say "a pill you take, to chill".


(http://www.wallchan.com/images/sandbox/20155-yoda-dr-seuss-star-wars.png)

Very nice. Point

Thanks for the concern, but it was a joke.

A joke which would generally be just as rude, come to think of it (save for these exact circumstances) ;)

Yes, I sort of figured, but I've been a bid deprived of sleep between the bouts of group insomnia with my roommates and certain stressors having to do with a four letter word that starts with "L" so I forgot to put an emoticon.

So no worries!

(http://i.imgur.com/OgVUPIl.jpg)

I know this is a Ralph McQuarrie piece, but does anybody know of more art like this or was this style kind of exclusive to Ralph?

So far as I'm aware, McQuarrie did the pre-vis work for all six films. I have some of the prints for Phantom Menace, I think, so you can certainly buy them if that's what you're after.

Otherwise, I imagine if you look on deviantart or somewhere, you should be able to find artists working 'in the style of', as his style is distinctive enough that I can well imagine aping it being an exercise for aspiring artists.

my newest acquisition :D this was released in December last year, and soon as I realised it was out I had to order one in from Haynes through work, much to the amusement of my colleagues- none of them are starwars fans sadly

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and with my millennium falcon owners manual :)

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I've been trying to track down the Haynes t-shirts (or similar - they had the cutaways and so on) that were out a few years ago for the X-Wing and AT-AT. No joy, alas, but congrats on a cool find!

I just thought these were interesting.

(http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060410161939/starwars/images/8/8f/Episode_3_Falcon.jpg)

Apparently the Millenium Falcon was in Revenge of the Sith. At the time, it was still known as the Stellar Envoy.

Yeah, that's one of those things Lucas did because we all know the galaxy has to revolve around 10 people... Lucas did confirm this was the Falcon, pre-Solo ownership... I however, given the model's age, would have just been happy to leave it as a random YT-1300... for crying out loud, it's one of the most popular ship designs, you'd think there'd be more that one in the universe.

To be honest, I hadn't even noticed it in the movie but it makes sense that Uncle Lucas would continue to tie more and more things in. Somethings are just cameos (which the Millennium Falcon was), and other things didn't need to be placed (Anakin building C-3PO and Yoda being friends with Chewie). I think it's a cool cameo, which in this case is fine as it's not tying anything together and is simply just another pilot doing a smuggling run.

hmm, may or may not have been a smuggling ship then. At that stage it was owned by the Republic Group described as "an obscure and possibly secret organisation linked to holding companies on Coruscant, Alderaan and Corellia"

just a random bit of info for you :P

guess its the same as when they remastered the OT (or at least on the bluray version), they stuck the YT2400 Outrider into a scene in Anchorhead in A New Hope

I saw the Falcon there last time I saw Revenge. I wondered Who else did.

If you read the book "Millennium Falcon", you'll see that it was the Stellar Envoy in that scene.  The writer was sure to tie the Millennium Falcon to the Old Republic and the battle of Coruscant. 

I'll have to look into reading that book. It's now in my queue and I'm curious as to the history behind the Millennium Falcon.


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Just thought these were interesting for the PT and curious to see if there are for the OT as well.

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I cant think of any reason they would fit the OT save the top one with added fireworks for ROTJ

They could work.

Tatooine, Hoth or Dagobah, Endor.

I wonder how many history teachers went into "retirement" after Order 66?

...hate order 66...just saying.

What is everyone's thoughts on Gary Oldman maybe being cast in episode 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEWJ9XrFeOM#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEWJ9XrFeOM#ws)

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Sounds amazing. Villan?

He would make a glorious Jedi :D

Hmm, new Vapaad poster boy?

I'd like to see C-3PO attempt stand up comedy.

Kham, you sir, are a genius...and correct.

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I feel like it would be really interesting...or incredibly boring.

OR he will go for lots of High-brow humor.

Lots of room for failure, but all the more magnificent if he pulls it off...

Of course I'd rather have Bender by my side any day on or off the calendar.

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Thine, I am thine father.
Still funny tho.

Nay! I am thine father.
lol :)

Thou art no such man! Even now I hear him snoring in his bedchaimber!

Thoust be hearing things, good sir! I doth not fabricate the claims unto thee!

Thou doth not indeed! Prepare thyself for a deul most arbitrary!
*Servant! Fetch my lightsaber, post haste!*

Forsooth, thine gauntlet hath been cast! Be it upon your head shouldst thou meet a grim end,
for I shall sever thy hand from thine limb atop an unexplained contraption most curious in the bowels of the metropolis above the clouds.
It is here my claims shall be vindicated! And thoust shall shriek against the revelation, but know in thine heart that it be true.

Forsooth indeed!
*enter servant bearing lightsaber*
*Deceptae takes lightsaber and ignites, points at Xaeyon*
*exit servant*
With my ruby blade I shall remove thine head and use thine bones as a shrine for thine lightsaber, which I shall then bestow upon my true father as an offering of piece for ruining his youth-bean elixir chalice, which shall in turn be replaced by your skull!

Very nice. Points to both of you.

42! I win! Thank you, well attired Jedi scum!

Worth a read...

http://www.tor.com/blogs/2014/02/you-all-forgot-that-luke-skywalker-is-a-bamf (http://www.tor.com/blogs/2014/02/you-all-forgot-that-luke-skywalker-is-a-bamf)

some very good points made, you get a point for sharing it.

Point for that read.

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Mark is a real gentleman.  That is a great painting of him.

I've met Mark on a job and he is probably one of the most down to earth people you can be around.  Sick sense of humor ...

He approached me and said "at ease trooper" I said "I loved you in every Joker you have ever voiced "  he said " I'm offended your not a fan of my other work" I said "Hayden Christensen made a better hero" he stood there for a second while I tried to keep my face straight... I laughed then he said "he has dreamy eyes"

Hilarious and one of the only times I geeked out on a job... Well other than when I met Patrick Stewart ...

Lolz. I'm jealous.

I think I just saw a Wampa in the woods behind my house....

Mark is one of the few Star Wars actors I have met.  I got to talk with him between signings at DragonCon, I was working VIP security...met Mark, Neil Gaiman, Gary Gygax, and Kevin Smith at that one.

Mark was a really nice guy who was always smiling even when tired and worn out.  Classy guy.

I was in a men's room at a Star Trek convention once, obeying guy code and using the center of the three urinals when I was suddenly flanked by two very tall gentlemen who proceeded to be very embarrassing and hilarious as they sang and joked and went about their business, thankfully, or unfortunately, there were only the three of us in the restroom.  We laughed, sang, and they signed paper towels for me...

And that's how I got Johnathan Frakes and John DeLancie's autographs...

That is awesome on so many levels

Working security has it's perks

Doing private protection jobs you meet a lot of interesting people

I'm about to re-watch Star Wars: Clone Wars, with the missus. Here is a taste of the awesome if you don't remember:

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That show is pretty badass. I was just thinking about it last night while I was watching Samurai Jack.

......Awesome......

I've always loved that show... Time to watch it again.

I'll be over at your house in about 12 hours!

Bring your sabers.

Death Star Engineer Addresses the Exhaust Port ‘Issue’

There is some NSFW language used, by some a mean only a couple, you have been warned.

http://furiousfanboys.com/2014/02/death-star-engineer-addresses-the-exhaust-port-issue/ (http://furiousfanboys.com/2014/02/death-star-engineer-addresses-the-exhaust-port-issue/)

Well, I'm glad someone finally wrote that.

hehehe  8) "magic space wizards"

That is pure brilliance so funny love the sexless monk warlocks reference  ;D

Is there another name for them?

Space Wizards with Laser Swords has always been my go-to.

Someone had a list of cool spaceships on Facebook for people to vote on that seemed a tad incomplete until I added Outrider and Lone Starr's Winnebago to it. Too many Whovians in that group, I think... the Falcon is second in the voting to a blue box.

Wait so if there are Whovians and Trekkies, what are we?

Space Wizards, presumably.

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I've heard Warsies, WarMongers, Dorks, Nerds, Geeks, Sith-Heads, Jedi-Wannabes, Forever Solo's... there's lots out there

Lol...Forever Solo's, shooting first asking questions never

Hmm, Warsies sounds accurate but the Sith in me can't resist Warmongers.

How about sithies?

There are plenty of terms, but the one I have always identified with is Star Wars fan....boring, I know, but I hate terms like "Warsie".

GFFAers is the term kicked around in the community I was a part of...

A mouthful, no doubt, but strangely easy to type quickly, even compared to Warheads or whatever ;)

Hmm I was playing with the sithies...poking a local sith with a stick, I missed this post lol.

That is a good one.

Hmmm.

No real easy answer right?

I gotta go with Ben on this one, Star Wars fan.

The thing is that Star Wars fans have so many flavors that you're better to identify them by type. Troopers, Jedi, Sith, Mandos, there's just a lot of options out there, you know?

Very true, but when dealing with mundanes...it is better to be under one umbrella  :D

I suppose so... with that in mind, Fanboys?

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Lol true very true.

I think I'm with Jammo but what does GAFFer stand for?

"Galaxy Far, Far Away"er

Ah, I see. I like it.

Oh, perhaps Star Warriors!

I, for one, like the fact that Star Wars fans aren't lumped into one group. It makes it harder and less appealing to falsely identify yourself as one for attention.

I like your sentiment Luna


But while we're making suggestions, I've got a few:
GFFAers: to make it pronounceable should be GaFFAers {gaf*fer}, keeping the 'a' from galaxy; which is common among abbreviations when you start to get a consonant-dominated word-like thing and want to make it easily said.

And now my personal creation that I will now bury my head in shame for;
Lucasites: derived from the name of the creator, Uncle George, AND sounds like leukocytes which are (simplifying this fantastically, as in 'fantasy' not 'awesome'; I really hate myself for hammering this square peg) the 'war' cells of the human body and resemble stars under the microscope (if you had all the right stains and a good imagination; again, 'fantasy')

I've been called "Star Wars kid"  before as an insult...even though I'm 26 and older than those who called me that,  lol.

I like both Gaffers and Lucasites. I think I'll use them both. And points to both Luna and Kev
EDIT: I mean Xaeyon but Kev gets one for sympathy I guess!

I've been called "nuts" before because I'm a Star Wars fan. People at work just don't appreciate Star Wars, clearly.

I feel that the term "nuts" is just a bit ambiguous however.

Thanks, but no need for sympathy.  I found it funny.

Just going to leave these here...


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A point to you Good Sir!

Bully bully!

Cheers mate.

I disagree. The thing I love about fandoms is the unifying aspects of them. Belonging to a fandom (doesn't matter which) makes you feel like you're a part of something bigger. A fandom fragmented into different sections doesn't have quite the same effect.

It isn't divided.

It just doesn't have a name.

Sorry. I read this:


And this:


And thought the discussion was about something completely different.

Yeah, the phrase "lumped into one group" didn't fit my point. I think I edited the post several times in my head while typing it.

Came across this series of pics today and had to share! To me, they are a wonderful, cheerful thing and they brightened my day a bit. The artist is Craig Davison and the article is found here: http://nerdapproved.com/approved-products/this-artist-brilliantly-captures-our-nerdy-childhood/#4YXmZtSUB54LsXlQ.01 (http://nerdapproved.com/approved-products/this-artist-brilliantly-captures-our-nerdy-childhood/#4YXmZtSUB54LsXlQ.01)

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Adorable. Point.

Agreed, great find...point.

Thanks! I thought it was nice :)

I just finished I, Jedi. It was pretty good. Nice battle descriptions, fun story. 7/10

The Sith are branching out.

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Progress is inevitable...

I'm covered in Tattoos but don't have any star wars ones I'm thinking of these to start with.
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Nice. Once I get the chance I'm going to get a 3 pronged ( rather than 2 or 4) Old Sith Empire emblem with a Revanite emblem inside the circle and "Power Passion Streingth" over each crown in aurebesh.

Sounds cool man love the old Sith empire emblem not sure what the Revanite emblem looks like though

If you are looking for input from a fellow forumite with a couple tattoos of his own...18 individual, a full spine kanji piece, and full shoulder blades/neck piece...the first tattoo is sweet but I would consider some color breaks, even in soft notes like browns and whites to offset all that black...the second, whew, busy and IMHO (which does not count for all that much), is just too over done...a bit ugly.

But the first is a bit of s'nice!

Well, poop.  Aaron Allston died.

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Aaron Allston was born in Corsicana, Texas, and wrote his first novel at the age of 16. His earliest Star Wars novels were part of the X-wing series, to which he contributed four books in 1998 and 1999. He also wrote two books in The New Jedi Order series, two short stories, and three books each for the Legacy of the Force and Fate of the Jedi series. He then returned to the X-wing series with Mercy Kill in 2012. It was his last Star Wars novel.

Fellow Star Wars author Timothy Zahn wrote on Facebook that Aaron "was a wonderful author, a devastating punster, an erudite teacher, and -- most of all -- a wonderful friend."

"His humor in the midst of his pain and medical difficulties was an inspiration to everyone around him," Zahn wrote, "and I will always remember the panels he and I (often with Mike Stackpole) did together. The Aaron, Mike, and Tim show, as we called it, has come to a sad close."

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I'm sure it's been brought up before but I have a question ...

Anakin was born on Tatooine, his mother died there he has been there a few times...

Obi Wan Kenobi goes and brings Luke to Tatooine expecting that Vader would never go there again ...

Why wouldn't a guy go back to his birthplace even though he turned dark side and hates the place ... You would think he would stroll back there once or twice ... It just doesn't make sense too me that Kenobi thought the birthplace of the Emperors hand is going to not want to come back and force choke around the place ...

I would believe that Vader was too busy being the Emperor's lacky to have the time for casual strolls on the dunes of Tatooine...

Not even when he was on vacation for a casual krayt hunt? Maybe experiment with some of the local cuisine? And of course, terrible group photos with the jawas wearing hawaiian print cloaks.

Nah , the Emperor doesn't give vacation for his "apprentices"; but I hear it's got a great medical plan that goes with the job :D

But wouldn't he think that maybe someone is hiding there

I think Tatooine was chose because it was a place of pain that they thought Vader would avoid.

HA! Point to Xaeyon.
And yes he probably stayed away because it held too much pain for him.

Crawl creator?

http://starwars.com/play/online-activities/crawl-creator/index.jsp?cs=48va8q5zn7 (http://starwars.com/play/online-activities/crawl-creator/index.jsp?cs=48va8q5zn7)

KORRIBAN

What's that?

However, we do have a specific thread for it, so let's not bog down this one.

You're dead to me... :P


I have a question about SW:
Where are all the kriffing Space Whales?

And now I'm imagining Moby Dick, Star Wars style!


Also, 1000th Post!!!!

that just makes me think of the dolphins from hitchhikers guide to the galaxy

so long, and thanks for all the fish!!

Read KotOR: Daze of Hate (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Knights_of_the_Old_Republic:_Daze_of_Hate). Spacewhales for all!!

Whaladon, among others.

Thank you both. And speaking of Hitchhiker's, page 42!

Oh and points.

Idk about Daze of Hate, but Whaladons are not the SPACE whales I am looking for...
I refer to whale-like creatures who actually swim around in space.

Yeah, I'll have to revise my whale comparison.

The monsters in DoH are not mammals, I think they're the same species as the space-slug from Empire...

So apparently S6 of TCW is being released early this month, but only on Netflix.

Yuuup!

On March 7th... they're releasing the whole TCW series, including season 6...