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Title: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: srams on January 04, 2014, 05:07:48 AM I thought I'd share some knowledge here, this is a simple way that I make my PVC shrouds for my sabers. I don't have all the latest or greatest shop tools, and I doubt most of us do. This is a photo tutorial, I'll try to narrate the best I can, bear with me...
Note this only works for US sabers 1.45" in diameter, most of the lower end, more affordable sabers, should work. V3 initiates/dominix/aeon sabers only. V2 sabers are too narrow for sched. 35, sched. 40 may work for the V2's but I'm not sure. To start here's the materials I start with: (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/04/adevuzeq.jpg) And the tools that I do have to use. More commonly accessible to most of us I hope. What you don't see are safety glasses and a dust mask. I absolutely recommend using them. I did, even though they aren't shown here. (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/04/5yqanysy.jpg) First step, cut the edge as straight as you can. I use masking tape to get a straight edge. Then draw on the PVC overlapping the tape with a sharpie. Remove the tape and cut along the line you just drew. I use my Dremel with a thin kerf emory cutting wheel to make all cuts in the PVC. (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/04/a2atahuv.jpg) Then get a cardboard paper towel tube. Flatten it in half, draw your design on it, keep in mind it will expand when you make the tube round again, so draw your design with that in mind, you want to avoid making it too small or too big in proportion to the PVC. (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/04/y8e2ezyg.jpg) Cut out your design with scissors or a razor. If you design it in such a way it should be symmetrical when you make the tube tube shaped again. (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/04/epe8ume7.jpg) Open the tube so its tube shaped again, cut your design straight down the spine, put it around your PVC, then tape it up. Then trace the cardboard tube on the PVC. (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/04/4ubuqura.jpg) (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/04/2u2a4uhu.jpg) I use my emory wheel, and sanding wheels to cut and finish the PVC. (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/04/a8evuter.jpg) After its cut use the sanding wheels to clean up the cuts. You will probably spend a lot of time on this step. (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/04/4ejuzyta.jpg) The final piece should resemble your cardboard cut out. (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/04/emynega6.jpg) Then after its all clean and pretty place it over your saber it should fit nice and snug. If its tight, use some sand paper on the inside of the shroud. (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/04/ynuva4ag.jpg) (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/04/puvevadu.jpg) You can then color it any way you like. Here's another shot with another lower shroud I made using this technique. (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/04/pudu2aze.jpg) I'm going to try this with a metal sink tube soon, I'll reply back as to how well or not it works. I hope this helps anyone who wants to try making custom shrouds! I'm always happy to answer questions, and I'm always open to criticism, and of course praise! ;) Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: BenPass on January 04, 2014, 05:12:49 AM Thank you very much for that tutorial! I had never thought of using paper towel rolls to set out design (and template) beforehand. Very nice!
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: srams on January 04, 2014, 06:04:45 AM You're welcome! I stared making them this way like three-four months ago. I saw the cardboard tube and it just clicked. And they are almost an exact fit over the PVC. They're easy and cheap, and the tubes are much more expendable and much easier to work with than the PVC. Right now I have a collection of about 10 tubes.
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Aurick on January 04, 2014, 06:35:10 AM This is fantastic! Can't wait to try it out! Point given!
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Zren Tobas on January 04, 2014, 06:38:48 AM What size for say an Overlord? I'd like to get back into shroud making again myself. Are any screws needed to secure the shroud on or no? Still might work on my SRD Dominix V2 LE as well.
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: srams on January 04, 2014, 10:04:25 AM It actually might work for the overlord and other MHS sabers too, not sure if they are narrow enough though. You can secure it with screws, but most of the time the fit is so snug you don't need them.
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Master Rel on January 04, 2014, 02:21:59 PM Great tutorial and welcome share!
I like the prop leaves :) Custom shroud really makes the saber your own. Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: srams on January 04, 2014, 03:40:14 PM ;D, the leaves were just there, but they do add some character!
One thing I forgot to mention was how to drill your blade retention screw hole. Have fun! Just kidding. Its very tricky, I put the shroud on the saber with the retention screw removed, feel the hole on the inside of the saber with my finger, and try to match the other side of the hole on the PVC side and mark it with a sharpie. I drill a larger hole than the hole for the screw, to allow for some margin of error. I hope that helps, like I said its tricky. Or you could always just drill and tap a new hole where ever you wanted it. Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Darth Vapour on January 04, 2014, 09:44:47 PM You could always try measuring the vertical distance from the edge and make sure it is central. Or you could first mark the cardboard, that way you could feel for the hole from the outside perhaps?
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: enoled01 on January 05, 2014, 02:47:47 AM That's amazing and with a coat of paint added im sure it will look even better points to you my friend
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Zren Tobas on January 05, 2014, 03:56:31 AM Nice. Let me know about the Overlord when you can. =]
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Xaeyon on January 05, 2014, 08:33:59 AM I don't think I can say anything that hasn't been said before. Nice job! (+1)
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Brian64 on January 05, 2014, 09:06:30 AM Ditto.
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: srams on January 05, 2014, 04:51:28 PM Nice. Let me know about the Overlord when you can. =] I don't actually own any of the US MHS sabers, i.e. Overlord, Archon, etc. So I'm not sure it would work. In theory it should the pommel of the initiate is the same 1.45" diameter, and also MHS so I'm guessing it would work for the other MHS sabers, which should also be 1.45" I can't guarantee it, but I've been dying to try it! Im going to buy an Arbiter as soon as I can afford it and I'll experiment. Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Jammo on January 05, 2014, 10:59:10 PM Dope... I'm going to have to try that soon.
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Aurick on January 07, 2014, 04:10:10 PM Ok maybe there's some of us at aren't to sure about sizing *cough* (me) the 35 sched what exactly is that? I got a 1 1/4" PVC pipe and it's to small of a diameter... And it's 40 sched. Was that my problem?
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Master Rel on January 07, 2014, 04:20:48 PM Ok maybe there's some of us at aren't to sure about sizing *cough* (me) the 35 sched what exactly is that? I got a 1 1/4" PVC pipe and it's to small of a diameter... And it's 40 sched. Was that my problem? Here you go my friend... http://flexpvc.com/PVCPipeSize.shtml (http://flexpvc.com/PVCPipeSize.shtml) In the United States, "Schedule" refers to the thickness of the pipe wall and, therefore, how much pressure it will hold. In most cases the schedule 40 compared to schedule 80 will contain roughly 25-35% less pressure and then there are bends and turn radius under pressure...but none of that matters for saber shrouds! :D Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Master Rel on January 07, 2014, 04:22:02 PM (http://img.docstoccdn.com/thumb/orig/107024006.png)
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: srams on January 07, 2014, 06:22:41 PM Great diagram Rel! Thats very helpful!
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Master Rel on January 07, 2014, 07:28:09 PM Great diagram Rel! Thats very helpful! Thank you thank you...try the veal, I'll be here all week! :D Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Aurick on January 07, 2014, 07:44:21 PM Point for sage wisdom thank you!
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: spectresabre on January 11, 2014, 11:45:15 PM Haha, this brings me back to when I would make lightsaber hilts out of PVC. I must have made a dozen! Anyways, I was wondering if someone (such as myself) would be able to make a durable enough shroud that could withstand constant usage?
And get back to me on the metal tubing. That sounds a bit more.. reliable.:) Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Ccarter_84 on January 12, 2014, 01:18:59 AM That's awesome
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: srams on January 12, 2014, 03:18:18 AM Haha, this brings me back to when I would make lightsaber hilts out of PVC. I must have made a dozen! Anyways, I was wondering if someone (such as myself) would be able to make a durable enough shroud that could withstand constant usage? And get back to me on the metal tubing. That sounds a bit more.. reliable.:) I made few old PVC hilts too back before I found US. Even the thin walled sched. 35 PVC is pretty durable, its just flexible enough to withstand a hard blow. Or many. I'm working with some metal right now. I can't wait to finish it and post it. Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Zren Tobas on January 12, 2014, 04:58:27 AM Make sure to tell what type of metal you used. I'd like to know. =] Weathered shroud for my Overlord would be awesome.
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: GilNarmor on February 11, 2014, 04:42:37 PM Where can you get schedule 35 in that size? I called a few plumbing supply stores without any luck, and I can't even find the damn stuff online.
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: srams on February 11, 2014, 06:04:16 PM I know Lowe's has it, Home Depot should also have it too, I actually got it out of my Dad's back yard, he only knows where he got it.
Its usually sold in... I think 10-12' lengths for around $5. The store should be able to cut it up shorter for you. Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: GilNarmor on February 11, 2014, 06:49:09 PM It's all schedule 40 in the ones near me. Can you maybe post the labeling on the side of your pvc? it might be helpful.
Also, that box cutter looks familiar. :D What department are you in? Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: srams on February 11, 2014, 08:28:37 PM Tools and Hardware. I'm in California, I wonder if this PVC is a regional only thing... but I'll post the item number as soon as I get a chance.
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Khaalis on March 06, 2014, 12:24:21 AM Did you ever get finished pictures of the sleeves you made for the tutorial?
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: srams on March 06, 2014, 05:58:09 AM Oh... yeah some where... I'll post them soon! My bad I forgot
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Khaalis on March 10, 2014, 10:18:50 AM Have you ever thought of doing commissions?
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: GilNarmor on March 13, 2014, 06:10:51 AM Felt that this belongs in this thread:
http://www.lowes.com/pd_23996-1814-PVC+16012++0600_4294763909%2B4294708155%2B4294715951__?productId=3133113&Ns=p_product_qty_sales_dollar|1&pl=1¤tURL=%3FNs%3Dp_product_qty_sales_dollar%7C1&facetInfo=Schedule%2080|SDR%2026 (http://www.lowes.com/pd_23996-1814-PVC+16012++0600_4294763909%2B4294708155%2B4294715951__?productId=3133113&Ns=p_product_qty_sales_dollar|1&pl=1¤tURL=%3FNs%3Dp_product_qty_sales_dollar%7C1&facetInfo=Schedule%2080|SDR%2026) Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Mortihlus on March 22, 2014, 11:45:52 PM This is a wonderful idea! I have a few sabers I may decorate with this method. Thank you for this! You may be interested in another means of decoration: Polymer clay(baking clay).
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: srams on March 23, 2014, 01:45:38 AM I'm a little famiar with the polymer, I'm now interested in Bondo, or other fiberglass resin.
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Karmack on March 26, 2014, 10:11:05 PM That is just awesome. Definately a point. :-)
Well, now I feel a shop project coming on... Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: SteampunkSith on April 14, 2014, 06:26:06 PM Whoa, very cool. POINT!
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Greywalker83 on April 15, 2014, 05:45:12 AM Hey that's pretty cool man.
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Karmack on April 15, 2014, 08:34:57 PM *bump* Any chances of a finished picture? Just curious, the rough cut looks awesome.
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: srams on April 15, 2014, 08:58:11 PM Let me find it... I have a rough draft of a metal shroud now too. I'll have to post that too as soon as I can.
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: burgang on May 29, 2014, 09:36:13 PM Awesome! I tried to do this myself but I live in TN and can't get schedule 35 here or any one close enough in dimensions >:(
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: tse_epic on June 15, 2014, 05:17:48 PM So I'm not sure if this will work for my libby. Anyone know if it will or not? #I'mKindaAnIdiot
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Tol Freeman on June 18, 2014, 08:16:06 PM Mix your batteries, NiMh and Alkaline. Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: srams on June 19, 2014, 01:03:13 AM Mix your batteries, NiMh and Alkaline. No that doesnt sound right... I use NiMh batteries they have a higher voltage than the standard Alkaline. Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: SlenderTheEnder on August 13, 2014, 11:25:02 PM Very helpful, as I will be customising my own sabers soon. Point to you.
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Darth Calico on September 11, 2014, 01:45:27 PM Thank you for this post! I was looking for instructions on this!
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Yiggysaw on October 02, 2014, 07:06:47 PM Good day!
Anyone in/around Sweden or Europe that knows of a website where you can order a PVC pipe in the right size? Planning on getting one for a Dark Initiate V3. Thanks! Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Darth Tyranis on November 04, 2014, 05:14:49 AM great tutorial! and love the idea...ty I think I found my new project
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Tk768 on November 24, 2014, 03:33:16 PM I did this on an old sink tube hilt. I used the PVC for the shroud, and hand grip. I painted them with Rhino bed liner paint. It turned out great. I am considering doing this with an ultra saber hilt.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Jedi Sior on December 21, 2014, 09:21:07 PM Count another interested in how the metal shroud turned out. I was going to make one for my non-US MHS saber. Found the proper size sink tube but lack the dremel.
Great idea for the paper towel roll! Will need to utilize this idea for certain! I will say that for safety's sake, and the sake of dueling blades, a shroud which goes out over the blade is probably best made from PVC while a decorative shroud around the hilt would be a better utilization for sink pipe. Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Copperhamster on March 27, 2015, 03:19:13 PM I was looking at things and stuff I had laying around and I found that a medium orange pill bottle is the perfect size to fit the wider parts of the initiate, if you have those laying around. Easier to cut than pvc and thinner.
You can also see through them before you paint for purposes of drilling tap holes. For opaque materials, get some kiddie watercolor paint and a brush. Put your parts on how you want them, then paint them from the inside through the existing holes. Give it some time to dry, pull off the parts then you can measure things exactly where they need to be. Any dried paint should wipe off the metal. Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Lord Raváge on May 11, 2015, 07:44:27 AM Name: Lord (Darth) Raváge - Sith Order of The Rock Czars
Lightsaber: Dark Initiate LE v3 (Blazing Red) Starship: TIE Interceptor Galaxy: Milky Way Planet: Earth Continent: North America State: California City: Los Angeles Greetings to you all. This is a wicked idea, SRAM! I'm too new here to give points, but still wanted to commend you on the sheer creativity utilizing the "form follows function rule"! ;) I look forward to meditating on many of your posts here on UltraSaber's forum and perhaps will see some of you at The Rock Czars' future appearances. In the meantime, see my signature below for a complimentary "Star Wars HD Theme" background download link from my FB page. Please enjoy the >>> Star Wars Artwork & Music in HD via YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/embed/lENtZ1mMgDM) <<< . May The Force Be With You All! Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: DopeSaber on July 28, 2015, 07:01:21 PM Thanks for the post, those pics look great. I did try with an aluminium tube and it came out good will post pics in a new thread. Thanks again for the idea, I didn't even think of customizing my saber until this post. Thanks.
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Joshie-Wahh on August 19, 2015, 04:05:10 AM That looks so awesome some, I so have to try that with my initiate, can't wait to see what it looks like, also just wondering, how sis you weather your initiate hilt? It looks amazing
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: LordVen on November 10, 2015, 02:38:38 AM This is amazing! It's given me ideas to make a shroud for my archon to make it even more customizable. The idea for using the paper towel roll as a stencil is awesome.
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: srams on November 10, 2015, 02:18:55 PM This is amazing! It's given me ideas to make a shroud for my archon to make it even more customizable. The idea for using the paper towel roll as a stencil is awesome. The Archon body is just a tiny bit bigger in diameter them the standard MHS/Initiate/Dominix/Aeon Bodies. If you use the thin walled schd 35 pvc you'll have to carve it out some from the inside. Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Fivefivesixphoto on November 10, 2015, 10:25:17 PM I thought I'd share some knowledge here, this is a simple way that I make my PVC shrouds for my sabers. I don't have all the latest or greatest shop tools, and I doubt most of us do. This is a photo tutorial, I'll try to narrate the best I can, bear with me... Note this only works for US sabers 1.45" in diameter, most of the lower end, more affordable sabers, should work. V3 initiates/dominix/aeon sabers only. V2 sabers are too narrow for sched. 35, sched. 40 may work for the V2's but I'm not sure. First of all, I'm totally going to do this. But what I'm really interested in is the weathering you did.It looks freakin' awesome! I just ordered my first Ultrasaber and really want to give it that weathered look. I was thinking just wrap some sandpaper around it and start twisting back and forth. But, I'm afraid that maybe it's not that easy. Any tips? Like grit used or kind how you went about doing it? Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: srams on November 11, 2015, 02:00:27 AM I was thinking just wrap some sandpaper around it and start twisting back and forth. But, I'm afraid that maybe it's not that easy. Any tips? Like grit used or kind how you went about doing it? Thats pretty much it, wrap it and twist it. I think I used around 100 grit. Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: B.Tolsma on January 09, 2016, 05:37:35 PM How do you guys secure your shrouds?
Do you drill the saber? Cause I'm not feeling that too much, I don't want to irreversibly scar my saber.. I'm gonna buy my first saber soon, and I'm undecided on which one it's gonna be yet, but I do really like the customization you can do on the V4s Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Kouri on January 09, 2016, 05:49:41 PM How do you guys secure your shrouds? Do you drill the saber? Cause I'm not feeling that too much, I don't want to irreversibly scar my saber.. I'm gonna buy my first saber soon, and I'm undecided on which one it's gonna be yet, but I do really like the customization you can do on the V4s Body shrouds can be secured with the covertec wheel. Emitter shrouds could be secured by replacing the blade-retention set-screw with a thumb-screw. Basically using the existing screw holes instead of making new ones. Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: B.Tolsma on January 09, 2016, 08:11:58 PM Aah gotcha!
What size screw is that retention screw?? And do you by any chance know what size the PVC tube is in Metric? I'm in Holland, but I really want to kit out the Dominix a bit to make it more my own! Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Kouri on January 09, 2016, 08:34:08 PM Retention and Covertec screws are both 8-32 thread.
Uhh~ doing a bit of searching, I'm guessing you're looking for 50mm pipe. Has an ID between 42.6mm-45.2mm, depending on pressure rating. Either will fit very loosely over the 37-38mm OD of the Dominix, so you might need to wrap some tape around the hilt to give the pipe a snug fit before you swap the screw. Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: B.Tolsma on January 09, 2016, 08:36:55 PM Awesome dude!
Thanks a ton! I'll screw around a bit with the pvc tubes, I can get those at my local store, so that's not too much of a problem :) Now I know what size I'm looking for roughly though, so that definitely helps. As for the screws, I'll have to get those at TCSS, cause all our screws are in metric obviously :p Thanks again man, now I can start planning my customization properly :3 Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: B.Tolsma on January 09, 2016, 09:32:34 PM Oh, one more little question.
Where does the retention screw sit on the Dominix LE V4? I'm asuming somewhere underneath the Silver lines at the top? And is it possible to get the retention screw to be lined up with the AV switch? Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Kouri on January 09, 2016, 11:30:46 PM Double-check your hardware store, because all the ones here have a section for metric screws, so I figure the opposite's true.
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: B.Tolsma on January 10, 2016, 09:29:44 PM Found some screws that I think might work :)
And I found PVC tubing that is absolutely perfect! 40mm OD, 3.68 ID (roughly) So that should be a perfectly snug fit. And if it doesn't fit I'll make a little cut on one side so I can fold it open a bit :3 Thanks again for the help Kouri! Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: nahtanojj on January 26, 2016, 03:53:12 AM Fantastic post. Thank you for the inspiration and insight. :)
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Halnis on January 29, 2016, 10:35:07 PM I am making a emitter in the same way but using brass piping as opposed to pvc pipe. Coincidence that I saw this here! I will post pictures of mine once I have finished with it. The dimensions for mine were for my Dark Apprentice V4 but are as follows: 1 1/4th Inches 22 guage brass piping (Found at Lowes) My personal recommendation is to bring the hilt in with you to try it out because it is a VERY snug fit down to the millimeter.
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Halnis on January 30, 2016, 12:17:52 AM Here are a few quick phone images.
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160130/9e65cf278188d4d7922095731084ff67.jpg) (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160130/8afd45815d3c0afcc4dca95699679e94.jpg) Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Kouri on January 30, 2016, 07:09:21 PM 1 1/4th Inches 22 guage brass piping (Found at Lowes) My personal recommendation is to bring the hilt in with you to try it out because it is a VERY snug fit down to the millimeter. I think your pipe was in the wrong slot in the aisle, as it's 1 1/2" 22 gauge sink tubing that fits over sabers - the MHS system was specifically made to fit inside that tube. For the record, it fits perfectly over the 1.45" MHS-sized V4 saber hilts. The 1.5" V3s need to be sanded down a bit to fit. Title: Re: Post by: Halnis on January 30, 2016, 07:16:30 PM Ahhh must be it! I stand corrected
Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: lthldse50 on February 10, 2016, 06:33:38 AM Excellent tutorial, thanks for putting this up! Going to try it out for sure!
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Joshie-Wahh on March 10, 2016, 09:54:40 PM hi everyone, i have a question, do any of you think it would work if i made a shroud out of pvc to go around my intiate v3, but also took a piece of pvc same diameter of actual hilt and connected it to shroud and hilt to make hilt a little bit longer, to fit electronics in it better?
so the shroud would be outside the smaller piece of pvc and the hilt, the smaller pvc acting as an extension of the actual hilt itself. Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: A31 on March 14, 2016, 12:34:54 PM Wow...one day I may reach a Jedi level such as this, to be able to create such great accessory for my saber. Lol..this is awesome! Appreciate the step by step! Great work. +1
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Kouri on March 15, 2016, 08:39:12 AM hi everyone, i have a question, do any of you think it would work if i made a shroud out of pvc to go around my intiate v3, but also took a piece of pvc same diameter of actual hilt and connected it to shroud and hilt to make hilt a little bit longer, to fit electronics in it better? so the shroud would be outside the smaller piece of pvc and the hilt, the smaller pvc acting as an extension of the actual hilt itself. No, not really. I'd recommend purchasing some MHS extensions from the other shop and adding length to the hilt that way. Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Joshie-Wahh on March 15, 2016, 01:40:23 PM Ok, thank you, wasn't sure, but I might not need to add length after all, the blade builders Obi wan card is tiny :)
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: sadalsuud on March 21, 2016, 04:21:51 PM any pics? :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Calculon on July 12, 2016, 04:41:05 PM Sorry if anyone considers this a necropost. The pvc shrouds came up and I gotta give credit where its due. Excellent tutorial and my sincere gratitude for doing it. This is something im seriously considering doing here soon with the shroud material from that shop. The pvc with how easy it is to work with and replace... stuff to think about. Great job on the post.
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: srams on July 16, 2016, 04:13:35 AM Thanks!! :) and I've been meaning to try the (other guy's) shroud material too.
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: moorecreative on September 04, 2016, 03:42:12 AM How did you finish up this shroud, or others that you've made?
One thing I'm curious about is what you've found as the best type of paint to use on PVC. What coats the best without running or pooling? What coats without remaining sticky or scratching off too quickly? I'd love to hear about the end style you'd achieved! OOH, too, how about the screws, since they were needing to be longer to go through the shroud pvc layer and into the saber hilt, did you find specialty screws or decorative/unusual head thumb screws ? Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Giglamesh on December 21, 2016, 02:08:05 AM I got everything else ready, but I'll be damned if I'm not having a hard time finding the 35sch thickness PVC pipe. Tried 3 hardware stores and none of them have 35 only 40, my shroud was gonna be effing sweet also. T_T
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: DarthEijji on February 06, 2017, 03:52:38 PM Thank you srams for this. I could not for the life of me find the correctsizeherein nycso i used yourmethod with a brass sink pipe instead. Turned out great. Cedit given wherecredit is due.
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: TheDutchman on April 20, 2017, 06:34:59 PM I thought I'd share some knowledge here, this is a simple way that I make my PVC shrouds for my sabers. I don't have all the latest or greatest shop tools, and I doubt most of us do. This is a photo tutorial, I'll try to narrate the best I can, bear with me... Note this only works for US sabers 1.45" in diameter, most of the lower end, more affordable sabers, should work. V3 initiates/dominix/aeon sabers only. V2 sabers are too narrow for sched. 35, sched. 40 may work for the V2's but I'm not sure. To start here's the materials I start with: ([url]http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/04/adevuzeq.jpg[/url]) And the tools that I do have to use. More commonly accessible to most of us I hope. What you don't see are safety glasses and a dust mask. I absolutely recommend using them. I did, even though they aren't shown here. ([url]http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/04/5yqanysy.jpg[/url]) First step, cut the edge as straight as you can. I use masking tape to get a straight edge. Then draw on the PVC overlapping the tape with a sharpie. Remove the tape and cut along the line you just drew. I use my Dremel with a thin kerf emory cutting wheel to make all cuts in the PVC. ([url]http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/04/a2atahuv.jpg[/url]) Then get a cardboard paper towel tube. Flatten it in half, draw your design on it, keep in mind it will expand when you make the tube round again, so draw your design with that in mind, you want to avoid making it too small or too big in proportion to the PVC. ([url]http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/04/y8e2ezyg.jpg[/url]) Cut out your design with scissors or a razor. If you design it in such a way it should be symmetrical when you make the tube tube shaped again. ([url]http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/04/epe8ume7.jpg[/url]) Open the tube so its tube shaped again, cut your design straight down the spine, put it around your PVC, then tape it up. Then trace the cardboard tube on the PVC. ([url]http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/04/4ubuqura.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/04/2u2a4uhu.jpg[/url]) I use my emory wheel, and sanding wheels to cut and finish the PVC. ([url]http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/04/a8evuter.jpg[/url]) After its cut use the sanding wheels to clean up the cuts. You will probably spend a lot of time on this step. ([url]http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/04/4ejuzyta.jpg[/url]) The final piece should resemble your cardboard cut out. ([url]http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/04/emynega6.jpg[/url]) Then after its all clean and pretty place it over your saber it should fit nice and snug. If its tight, use some sand paper on the inside of the shroud. ([url]http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/04/ynuva4ag.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/04/puvevadu.jpg[/url]) You can then color it any way you like. Here's another shot with another lower shroud I made using this technique. ([url]http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/04/pudu2aze.jpg[/url]) I'm going to try this with a metal sink tube soon, I'll reply back as to how well or not it works. I hope this helps anyone who wants to try making custom shrouds! I'm always happy to answer questions, and I'm always open to criticism, and of course praise! ;) Srams, that is AWESOME. I really like the (relative) simplicity of the operation. Have you tried the procedure w/ other materials? Just wondering about tedium vs. medium (sorry, not trying to be a poor poet...) Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Therion Jinn on April 21, 2017, 02:17:55 AM This kind of reminds me of the two full PVC prop hilts I built before my first purchase here at US.
Very useful info Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Lady Agana Kath on July 02, 2017, 02:29:37 PM Indeed, very useful. I will have to attempt this at some point.
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: OAK1971 on September 15, 2017, 03:34:56 AM Good info! I will have a chopsaw inbound soon and will have many uses for it now. ;D
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: MandolorianJedi on September 29, 2017, 08:15:46 PM Hey I'm new here and I have a dominix and an aeon that I would like to customize via your method. I have the 1.25 40 pvc pipe that you suggest might work and I watched another video that confirms that it should work, however it seems to make the hilt is a bit "thick". Now maybe it will feel better to me once its finished but is there anything else i could use that is simple to cut and manipulate that might also be thinner. Ive heard of sink pipe maybe? Any feedback would be extremely helpful, thanks!
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Therion Jinn on September 30, 2017, 02:37:04 AM See about getting yourself some thin walled PVC
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: DiZziMage on October 30, 2017, 12:35:38 AM Wow this is sweet! I will def be trying this soon
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: ZekeTheGameFreak on January 23, 2018, 08:13:37 PM Would this method work for a dark apprentice? I'm trying to make a replica saber for a character I rp as on another forum.
Also how does the PVC stay on the hilt? Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Therion Jinn on January 25, 2018, 03:16:58 AM Would this method work for a dark apprentice? I'm trying to make a replica saber for a character I rp as on another forum. Method working on an Apprentice would just mean using larger PVC pipe.Also how does the PVC stay on the hilt? As to holding it on, there are a couple of ways: Friction fit-Likely won't stand up to dueling Adhesives-May not bond the PVC to metal very well Set screws-Would require drilling into the Apprentice to make work, or matching up to the blade set screw and/or covertec Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Darth_Eclipse on February 16, 2018, 04:36:06 AM Very Nice
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Punisher2468 on February 24, 2018, 11:23:50 PM Okay this may be an old post but I have a serious question.
Does anyone know where one can get 1 1/4” schedule 35 pvc??? Online or at a store because all i can find are elbows or diameters that are too big. I made the mistake of buying schedule 40 and the inner diameter was too small so I’ve spent the last day and a half sanding it out a bigger ID because I’m not a dad with an Autozone for a garage. If anyone has any links or knowledge on where to buy one, or even how to make the sanding process easier please let me know! Save me srams, you’re my only hope. Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Therion Jinn on February 25, 2018, 03:26:36 AM On my PVC hilt, I used a flange adapter from the sink section.
Not sure what grade it is, though Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Punisher2468 on February 26, 2018, 02:47:14 AM Just gonna put this out there in case anyone does wanna do this technique with sch 40.
(https://i.imgur.com/hSZMINJ.jpg) Your dremel will be your best friend. Any sanding bit doing 20,000 rpm will sand off a good amount of pvc so here's my technique. 1. Cut out your design. 2. Take your hilt and put the top of it underneath the pvc to trace the hilts outer diameter on the pvc's inner. 3. Sand the ID to match your trace erase that sharpie line completely but keep in mind to not go further into the shroud. The height of the bit should be the farthest you go. Wash off the dust and test the fit. Where the hilt stops is where you trace another line for you to sand off. My mistake was going in deeper, it made it hard for me to tell which parts I needed to sand. 4. Repeat. 5. Hopefully profit. Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Punisher2468 on February 26, 2018, 05:02:12 AM (https://i.imgur.com/kP6SFk7.jpg)
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Therion Jinn on February 27, 2018, 03:49:36 AM Looks like you're off to a good start there.
Will definitely look good when you finish it up Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: mrg149 on November 23, 2018, 11:52:11 PM does sched 35 pvc exist? Can't seem to find it
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Golden Fedora on December 12, 2018, 01:04:16 PM Can't beleive it took me this long to find this. I'll have to get a new V3 sometime so I can try this sometime.
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: Dwolf96 on January 24, 2019, 08:16:24 PM Those shrouds turned out awesome, I’ve got to try this on my apprentice v4 sometime!
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: GingerWizard on June 16, 2020, 09:46:34 PM That looks amazing, you did an awesome job and i look forward to seeing more from you. Makes me wanna see if I can't piece something together for my Aeon LE V2.
Title: Re: How I make PVC shrouds for my sabers: Photo Tutorial Post by: MVHI JEDI on August 18, 2020, 12:52:09 AM I used a method similar to this to make my Initiate V2 into a Yoda style saber. I'll post pics when I take some.
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