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Title: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: Raavena Frayus on January 04, 2014, 06:59:19 PM
Hey everyone!

I'm at my wit's end so I thought I'd ask some more knowledgeable people what to do! Disclaimer: I am not massively great with computers, so this might be a stupid question, but I couldn't find this problem anywhere else on this board!

Let me see if I can explain my issue.

Yesterday I tried to install the V2 launcher, but realized after trying to open it up and failing that I actually needed the V3 launcher. Saber was still working fine at that point. Uninstalled V2, got the V3 launcher installed, connected my saber, and started adding files that I wanted to change. Everything was going smoothly. When I finished, I hit "write" and waited, and when it was finished, the saber disconnected and started humming. I unplugged it and gave it a wave, but it was only making one swing sound. I plugged it back in to check if the changes had actually taken place and discovered that they not only had not, but that what was actually on the saber wasn't even the default set of sounds that it came with. It was just a set of a few basic sounds, one in each category. I have tried resetting the lightsaber and reinstalling the files, but it keeps reverting to whatever those files are when I unplug. I have absolutely no idea what I am doing wrong, I am pretty sure I followed the instructions on Emory's video exactly...

Can anyone help shed some light on this for me? If you need any other information to figure this out let me know, I genuinely have no clue what might be useful for you guys to know, and after being super excited about getting my saber yesterday, I now have a distinct feeling that something's gone wrong and I can't fix it. :(


Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: Racona Nova on January 04, 2014, 07:07:03 PM
Did you already try to change fonts with the V2 version? If so, then your board might have been damaged - this is why you shouldn't use the V2 with the new boards :( If you didn't do anything to the saber using the V2 launcher, then I don't know what's happening there. Could you post a screenshot of the launcher and the fonts that show up on the saber?


Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: Raavena Frayus on January 04, 2014, 07:10:06 PM
No, I didn't, it wouldn't even open with V2, which is why I switched. :(


Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: Racona Nova on January 04, 2014, 07:13:02 PM
Hmm, this is odd...are the hardware settings resetted, too? Try to change them and check if they are accepted.


Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: Raavena Frayus on January 04, 2014, 07:15:15 PM
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1xkzxo3o2d3lcql/Screenshot%20Launcher.png (https://www.dropbox.com/s/1xkzxo3o2d3lcql/Screenshot%20Launcher.png)

There's a link to the launcher, I hope you can see it?


Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: Racona Nova on January 04, 2014, 07:21:23 PM
Yes, I see it. Is this the launcher already connected to the saber? If so, then there is a problem with recognizing it by your PC - there is no serial no. and the unlit lightsaber indicates there is no connection.
If it is just the launcher, then plug in your saber to your PC and take another screenshot.


Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: Raavena Frayus on January 05, 2014, 12:03:53 AM
Hey guys, back now! So, it's just the launcher, stand by for a screenshot with the saber attached!

Also, the hardware settings can be changed, I managed to change those no problem. It's just the sound settings that won't. :( Give me one sec and I'll show you what it looks like with the saber attached!


Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: Raavena Frayus on January 05, 2014, 12:11:55 AM
Here's a link to a screenshot of the launcher with the saber plugged in. Anything else I can get you guys, just let me know, I'll be at my computer for the rest of the day!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7sebp6zogkeru0d/Screenshot%20Launcher%202.png (https://www.dropbox.com/s/7sebp6zogkeru0d/Screenshot%20Launcher%202.png)


Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: Brian64 on January 05, 2014, 12:15:59 AM
Okay, I'm sure you've probably done this but I don't mind stating the obvious just avoid making an incorrect assumption. Have you clicked on each of the fonts in your sabre and deleted them one by one, and then dragged a new font to the correct location where you want the sound?


Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: Raavena Frayus on January 05, 2014, 12:18:59 AM
Okay, I'm sure you've probably done this but I don't mind stating the obvious just avoid making an incorrect assumption. Have you clicked on each of the fonts in your sabre and deleted them one by one, and then dragged a new font to the correct location where you want the sound?


Yup, that was one of the first things I tried. :( Everything works fine, I can listen to the sounds and add them into their appropriate slots, and I've also made sure to use only as many sounds in each slot as I'm allowed, if that helps for informational purposes. It writes everything, and if I check the little box it even checks the files and says everything is fine, but when I unplug it and plug it back in, same old defaults. I don't even know what happened to the original default settings. :/


Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: Brian64 on January 05, 2014, 05:38:41 AM
Another obvious question then... are you shutting the launcher program down before disconnecting the USB, and disconnecting before powering your saber down?


Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: Brian64 on January 05, 2014, 05:41:18 AM
Actually, if you haven't already read through this thread, I think this should help.

http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=11988.0 (http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=11988.0)


Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: Brian64 on January 05, 2014, 05:46:25 AM
Also, another obvious thing.. but when you write the sound files, are you using the write button between the Save configuration file and connect/disconnect icon at the top of the launcher? I'm assuming you have.

Roughly how long does it normally take for the sound fonts to write to your saber and then verify?


Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: Raavena Frayus on January 05, 2014, 05:47:50 AM
Another obvious question then... are you shutting the launcher program down before disconnecting the USB, and disconnecting before powering your saber down?


Hmm, I'm not sure, actually. I might be unplugging it before I shut the launcher down. Does that make a difference? I've already had a look through that thread, but I'll have another look just in case. To be honest, I feel like I've tried it both ways with disconnecting it with the same result, but I can try it again and report back! Couldn't hurt! Is there a way I should shut the launcher down properly, or will x-ing out the window do the trick?

And yeah, when I write that's the button I use. It normally takes about... I don't know, maybe 8 minutes or so? Maybe 10?

Thanks for all your help by the way, I am kind of panicking about it because I need it working for an event in the rather near future. :P


Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: Brian64 on January 05, 2014, 05:58:31 AM
Not sure how much difference it makes, but I read a lot of posts while waiting for my first sabers to arrive. Pretty much all of them said to follow the order for things to work smoothly, so that's what I've been doing.. it's been pretty flawless for me so far (touches wood).

I think I read somewhere that when someone was having sound problems, the solution suggested was to download the default obsidian font, and use it to restore the saber to factory default audio.

If it's taking a while to save, then it seems like the fonts are being saved.

If it were me, I'd be using restore defaults to get the saber back to factory specs, then working from there.



Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: Raavena Frayus on January 05, 2014, 06:34:12 AM
Not sure how much difference it makes, but I read a lot of posts while waiting for my first sabers to arrive. Pretty much all of them said to follow the order for things to work smoothly, so that's what I've been doing.. it's been pretty flawless for me so far (touches wood).

I think I read somewhere that when someone was having sound problems, the solution suggested was to download the default obsidian font, and use it to restore the saber to factory default audio.

If it's taking a while to save, then it seems like the fonts are being saved.

If it were me, I'd be using restore defaults to get the saber back to factory specs, then working from there.



Okay, I tried it that way and it still did the same thing. Argh! I tried restoring defaults, but it doesn't put the obsidian fonts it came with back on, it just puts on the ones I took the screenshot of. I guess I can try downloading the obsidian font, but if it won't load the sounds I want, I'm not convinced it will load the original sounds, either... when I opened it up in V3 the first time, all the sounds it came preinstalled with were there, and when I tried to write the new sounds (Old Republic Jedi from the Obsidian Website), this happens.


Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: Racona Nova on January 05, 2014, 12:45:33 PM
Don't know if this makes a difference or solves the prob, but I would try this:

1. Connect your saber to your PC and the launcher.
2. Empty ALL sound slots.
3. Click "Write Sound Files" if it's not grey due to empty slots (this should actually remove all files from the soundboard).
4. Disconnect the saber. If this worked, then your saber should be muted.
5. Reconnect your saber and try to change the soundfont again. If this "reset" worked, then you should be able to change the fonts.


Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: Raavena Frayus on January 05, 2014, 07:39:15 PM
Don't know if this makes a difference or solves the prob, but I would try this:

1. Connect your saber to your PC and the launcher.
2. Empty ALL sound slots.
3. Click "Write Sound Files" if it's not grey due to empty slots (this should actually remove all files from the soundboard).
4. Disconnect the saber. If this worked, then your saber should be muted.
5. Reconnect your saber and try to change the soundfont again. If this "reset" worked, then you should be able to change the fonts.

I'll try this today and report back, thanks for the tip!


Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: NovaSitori on January 05, 2014, 09:52:03 PM
I'm having the same issues that Raavena is having except my sound fonts aren't showing up. Neither is the "Lightsaber" folder.  Please help!


Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: Raavena Frayus on January 06, 2014, 01:47:00 AM
Update: My technician (read: my brother) and I had a poke at it. We tried writing no sound to it first by emptying the slots, and then we added the defaults after that. It accepted them just fine after we tried it that way! I'm going to try adding the new sound fonts I wanted to add tomorrow and let you guys know how it goes. NovaSitori, try that and see if it works!


Title: Re:
Post by: Brian64 on January 06, 2014, 01:51:02 AM
Awesome :-)

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Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: Raavena Frayus on January 06, 2014, 04:04:27 AM
Massive thanks for everyone's help by the way, I'd never have worked it out on my own!


Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: Racona Nova on January 06, 2014, 02:45:13 PM
I assume that you finally managed to change your fonts according to your post? :)


Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: Racona Nova on January 06, 2014, 02:46:57 PM
I'm having the same issues that Raavena is having except my sound fonts aren't showing up. Neither is the "Lightsaber" folder.  Please help!
What do you mean with "Lightsaber" folder? The folder where you have saved your soundfonts?


Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: NovaSitori on January 10, 2014, 12:16:25 PM
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy30/NovaSitori/2014-01-06_15-48-58_920_zps3873ef05.jpg) (http://s774.photobucket.com/user/NovaSitori/media/2014-01-06_15-48-58_920_zps3873ef05.jpg.html)

Here's a picture of the file I'm trying to uninstall.


Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: NovaSitori on January 10, 2014, 12:19:35 PM
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy30/NovaSitori/2014-01-06_15-49-32_488_zpsd10b32dd.jpg) (http://s774.photobucket.com/user/NovaSitori/media/2014-01-06_15-49-32_488_zpsd10b32dd.jpg.html)

Here's me about to uninstall.

(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy30/NovaSitori/2013-12-30_22-49-12_294_zps68be579c.jpg) (http://s774.photobucket.com/user/NovaSitori/media/2013-12-30_22-49-12_294_zps68be579c.jpg.html)

This is what happens after I try to uninstall.


Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: NovaSitori on January 10, 2014, 01:08:00 PM
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy30/NovaSitori/2014-01-06_15-58-40_950_zps27835e07.jpg) (http://s774.photobucket.com/user/NovaSitori/media/2014-01-06_15-58-40_950_zps27835e07.jpg.html)

Default Obsidian Soundfont saved to My Desktop in a separate folder.

(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy30/NovaSitori/2014-01-06_15-58-24_331_zpsd546ecb1.jpg) (http://s774.photobucket.com/user/NovaSitori/media/2014-01-06_15-58-24_331_zpsd546ecb1.jpg.html)

TFUII Starkiller Soundfont saved to My Desktop in a separate folder.

(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy30/NovaSitori/2014-01-10_07-43-07_712_zps7369381c.jpg) (http://s774.photobucket.com/user/NovaSitori/media/2014-01-10_07-43-07_712_zps7369381c.jpg.html)

Here's when I open the v3.1.4 launcher and it doesn't show the "Lightsaber" folder or the Sound fonts.


Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: Brian64 on January 10, 2014, 01:49:29 PM
The launcher browser is just like Windows Explorer - you have to navigate to the folder manually. It won't find your soundfonts automatically. Whenever you load the launcher, it will start in the last folder you were using, so once you've found the folder the first time, you should have any problems after that.

Unfortunately, since you didn't open the folder paths in the left of your explorer window I have no way of seeing where on your system your 'lightsaber' folder is located, so I can't offer any specific 'go to' advice. I can't think of any reason why the obsidian launcher couldn't find the folders with your fonts, as long as you browse to the right location.


Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: Racona Nova on January 10, 2014, 07:14:30 PM
So, for the first issue: you're trying to uninstall the v2.2.2 of the Obsidian launcher, right? The file that's causing the problem is a logfile from the installation process. Can you actually find it in the folder you installed the v2.2.2 in? Is this folder existent at all? If not, then it might be a problem with Windows itself - it doesn't recognize that the program is already uninstalled. This occurs sometimes when the InstallShield information aren't updated properly.
For the second: your fonts are on the desktop, right? Then I would suggest browsing the "desktop" folder rather than "documents" with your launcher ;)


Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: NovaSitori on January 11, 2014, 07:38:51 PM
Brian, you said that I have to navigate to the navigate to the folder manually, right? Do you mean open the folder with the sound fonts in the Desktop folder first, then open the launcher?

Raavena, how do I update the ShieldInstall information?

Thanks for the help by the way, I greatly appreciate it.


Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: Brian64 on January 11, 2014, 08:40:02 PM
NovaSitori, what I mean is that the Launcher does not search your drive(s) for soundfonts, so you need to browse to the location where you have extracted the soundfonts after downloading the archives. The launcher then remembers the last location you used, so the next time you open it will be to that same folder to make it easier next time.

To make it easy, why don't you create a folder on your C: drive called 'soundfonts', and move all of the folders you've extracted there using windows explorer. Once you've done that, open the obsidian launcher again, and browse to the C: drive, then the soundfonts folder, and then whichever sub-folders that contain the fonts  you want to use.


Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: NovaSitori on January 11, 2014, 09:28:05 PM
Thanks again for help.


Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: Brian64 on January 11, 2014, 10:12:06 PM
No problem, let us know how you go.


Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: NovaSitori on January 12, 2014, 09:03:59 PM
It works! YES!!! Just put The Old Republic soundfonts on my lightsaber. Just turned 19 today too. Got a black Les Paul Guitar.


Title: Re: Issues Installing Sound Fonts -- Please help!
Post by: Racona Nova on January 12, 2014, 09:21:03 PM
Godd to hear that and - happy birthday ;D