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If your Violet Amethyst has turned red or
If your SRD/AB has turned Green or
If your RGB saber doesn't mix colors properly anymore or
If your blade looks dimmer than usual:

that is usually a sign that your batteries are dead or dying.

Please try using a BRAND NEW set of batteries and that should get everything back in full swing or

If you have the Li-Ion setup, the CHARGE YOUR BATTERIES.

Enjoy!  

batteries are just the root of all troubles, US needs to just come up with an infinite power source that fits in the hilt like a real saber :P

Or maybe we can attach some propellers to the hilt that turns a generator attached to the LED so the saber will light up when you swing it and won't need batteries!!  :o :o :o

Ok, maybe not.

you know your slightly onto something, they do have those flashlights that you shake and it charges the battery, im not sure how good the technology would be a these saber for sure draw alot of power and that recharge system most likely wouldn't hold up to the beating

Put a wheel with a dynamo near the pommel and have a guinea pig run in the wheel. tadaa. infinite energy until guinea pig dies.
Or ignite the blade with some sort of reflective material in the blade and wait until the light strays have covered the entire thing then turn of the saber. the light will keep reflecting and we will have infinite light  ;D

I advise that every proud owner of an ultrasaber should buy rechargeable NiHM batteries, I have an RGB and I can burn through a set of batteries in a day, they save you so much guilt in battery consumption, just charge them while you sleep and play all day long.

Also, the dynamo idea is actually what powers those flashlights, its all about the efficiency in the generator (basically a motor you spin manually) and the amount the capacitor can hold. Within probably 10 years technology will easily allow this...

Sjorsjo91, i have tried this. The guinea pig got a concussion while i was doing some saber spins.

Or try airsoft grade rechargeable batteries, like Lipo for example.

Yes, I put in new Duracell batteries and when i turned on my Initiate v2. Instead of it being the bright violet it was when I first opened it christmas morning (note the batteries where already in there, the ones it came with and had been sitting off in the box for about a week or two.) It was a indigo, like a pale but close mace windew. Is there anything wrong. I am afraid it is too blueish and not redish enough to give me the actual violet color.

To please more people, there are now two ways to get your violet hue of choice by just using different batteries:

Alkaline batteries will produce a more blueish hue (truer to what most people think of when they hear "purple").

Rechargeable Nimh batteries will produce the reddish violet you're looking for.

This is because four alkalines make 6 volts whereas four nimhs make 4.8 volts.

I've tried new batteries a few times, but it stays the same.  The first couple of inches of the blade (closest to the hilt) are violet, the rest is blue.  I've finally got a decent camera, so I'll try to get a good pic and post it later.  In a way, it's kind of a neat effect, I just wonder why it's doing it.

So, alkalines for a deeper hue?

Awesome. Now let me run to Wal-Mart...

You know, If you did that then you would turn your saber into a shake weight !  Probly not a good move lol

So will rechargeable NiHM batteries affect Blazing Reds color?

My Wraith v.2 has an RGB set to orange, but recently it only comes out red, even after a full charge. The only time I see orange is when it is hooked up to the charger and I turn it to the half power setting, however once I unplug it, it goes back to just red.

Could the green diode be faulty?

Red is a single color LED, so the batteries shouldn't effect the color.

Could be.  Want me to take a look?

If the offer still exists in a few weeks. I have to swap monies around in order to accrue the costs that follow (shipping, etc.). Once again Ultra, you amaze me with your generosity!

This may sound like a really simple and commonly overlooked solution but it worked for me.  My brand new V.A. started to change to a bluer hue toward the end of the blade and more pink toward the hilt.  I took the emitter off and examined the MLS unit inside. (I don't know if these units are used in all sabers or only those that have quick disconnects.)  Upon close inspection i realized the back of the unit had come unscrewed just a little bit, so i got a flathead and screwed it in until it stopped.  I carefully put the unit back into the hilt making sure the wires weren't twisted and it fit comfortable with little wiggle room, put it back together, fired it up, and it was just like new again.  The color is now a beautiful violet hue from hilt to tip and i couldn't be happier.

Yes, using different batteries makes a difference, but if it doesn't work check your saber out to make sure the LED module is straight inside the hilt, otherwise the LEDs colors don't mix evenly enough to make the blade the color it's supposed to be sometimes. Worked for me.

well Ultra, I just put in the Nihm batteries and i still get a bluish color. Though on my last set, the alkaline after a week, it got to an even violet. I thought that NihM Rechargeable batteries would give it a even violet color. I am so confused.

okay.. first we have to genetecly manupilate some hamsters.. to make them ULTRA small (like an ant)
We need at least 20 of em.
Then we need to build a reactor into the Hilt.. with 20 impeler..
of course since those hamsters are so small, they don't need so much food!
Isolate the Hamsters from the electricity (they would cut the wires!!!!)
and make an place where you can insert the food!!!

:D

Gulcasa, I can help with the genetic manipulation. So far I have miniturised a family of wild rabbits and a rhinocerous, giganticised a hill full of ants (and made them breathe fire, my house still suffers the consiquences) and made a talking lemur. (This post is a joke.)

Aw man, I thought you were serious...XD

Yeah!!! all we need is some Cold Fusion  ;) I think I've got some in the back here somewhere, give me a sec.............. lol

Smaller the creature the faster their metabolism less food in quantity but way more feedings.

Make sure they are all female. A mix will be troublesom and more then one male could mean violent fighting.

lmao  :D

Ultra, I have The New Innovation in Sabers Here:

SOLAR PANELS ON ULTRASABERS!!!!!!!!!!!!  lmao ;)

He'll go crazy in a week

Solar power, absolutly.

And for all our shadow dwellers just leave it in the sun or tyhe light of a powerful star and then go out and get it later.

Absolutely, some part of the Sith needs a tan lol ;) even if it's just the paint on his or her saber  ;D

LMAO that was great

lol I can't help but think of this game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEzy1IE2x0c# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEzy1IE2x0c#)

aha...

I

LOVE!!!

NO MORE HEORES!!!

EPIC WIN FOR POSTING THIS MR. ANTERON  ;)!!!

:D Glad you approve. :)

It's incredible but I had the same issue you had... My blade was bluish at the tip and almost magenta at the hilt. I unscrewed it, moved the LED module a bit, screwed all again, and now it's a perfect pink... Love it. I guess it's a matter of the LED module being straight. Weird but nice to have solved it. Thanks for the hint!

BTW, is it normal for a RGB setup with sound to go through batteries like water through a sieve? I have a single 3.7 Li setup and it lasts about 40 minutes before red-shifting and dying. The GB one seems to last way longer. Any idea whether this is normal or maybe my charger isn't charging the batteries fully (I doubt it)?

In my experience the single battery li-ion setup goes through batteries a lot quicker than the two battery li-ion setup.  It stands to reason.  If you think of power as a commodity, you are putting half of much of it into the saber when you load up the battery.  From what I have heard, 40 minutes running time is right--maybe even a bit long.

Yeah, I was suspecting as much. I wonder how much of the load on the batteries is caused by the sound and how much by the light. Were the sound the primary cause of drain, reducing a bit the volume of the "hum" sound might save a lot. Anybody has any idea?

This could be the opportune time to pioneer nuclear-powered lightsabers, I think. All the benefits of near-limitless power with that omnipresent danger of dying horribly if you aren't careful! :D What could possibly go wrong?

So, if V.A. is turning into red, the owner of the saber is turning into the dark side right?

My sister got a V.A. lightsaber and we took it out in the snow (at least 10 degrees below freezing) and after about ten minutes it turned Red then after we can back inside it turned back into Violet.

I can only assume that the cold messed with the saber.

So if qroon is right then what does that mean?

Hi all , quick question about my sentinel yellow. (This seems like the right place)
Basically it has red days and greener days and can sometimes swap for apparently no reason have had similar issues with my dva
but i use it less so, its hard to say. When i first got the saber the back parts of the led where slightly unscrewed
I have since sorted this but this strange color swapping remains. Is it when i'm feeling evil or good?
Does the saber somehow know? As cool as that would be, any advice you guys have would be great.

Many thanks

That would be cool wouldn't it?  A mood lightsaber...

Fun fact, that was one of the the original ideas for SW.  The idea was that the wielder would provide the lightsaber color - hence if Vader picked up a Jedi saber it would be red.

Anyway, sorry for that diversion.  What kind of batteries do you have?  Regular or Li-ion?

Li -ion batts and even fully charged the problem persists

i do like the idea of a mood saber though maybe i should just try and enjoy it?

IDK why the problem persists but I can tell you why it's green and red.

It has to do with the tuning of the RGB LED. For w/e reason Green and Red make yellow light.

Hope it can be sorted for you.

Could you imagine a mood saber in the hands of like Goku or something?

It's blue and then he just loses his crap and it bursts into Yellow when he goes Super Saiyan. ;D

Hmmm that sounds like it would be a cool themed saber... get blue with yellow FOC if that's possible...

@Malek/Katarn - If you have Li-ion that seems strange, since the Li-ion cells have pretty consistent voltage output.  It could be a wiring issue, perhaps you might want to consider contacting them with shipping@ultrasabers.com to confirm.  Hope you get it sorted out!

i think after all the enjoyment i've had from these things i wouldn't want to complain
plus i have a spare dva unit for now, god bless quick disconnect!

i will probs just throw in an extra yellow mls whenever i next do a big order
as postage to Jolly ol' England is pretty extreme
just wanted to know if anyone had a "quick fix"

I'm getting my brother an ultrasaber if he gets into his 1st choice university
so only a few months wait.

thanks for looking Nero and everyone, quality advice as always :)

I really need help.... I just bought a "Phantom v3 Staff" it came in on Friday. It's has the violet led mix and YES I HAVE PUT BRAND NEW BATTERIES in my saber multiple times in the past 3 days. One side is actually a blue violet. The other half in a pink like a rich pink and its not very bright. I don't know what to do and they're brand new.

Please be easy on me I'm very new to ultrasabers! XD

Email them using shipping@ultrasabers.com.  There may be something wrong with the LED or wiring.  Your saber has a 90 day warranty so they'll do whatever they can to fix this!

Thank you Thank you! I will do! XD

I have  the Dakr Initiate V2 LE with the 7 colors option. I hadn't used it in a while, and when I turned it on, it appeared my rechargable batteries were dead. While I waited for them to charge, I put some AA batteries in it until the recharge is complete. When I turn on the saber, I get sound, but the blde does not light up. None of the colors work. Is my blade broken, or do regular batteries not work?

You must never, ever, ever switch to normal batteries if you have li-ion.

ok, I won't use them. Does putting them in harm the electronics in anyway? Or if I take the regular batteries out and put the rechargable ones back in when they are charged, will it work again?

Well it has the potential to harm and even fry the electronics. I don't know if that's happened or not in your saber, but it CAN kill the saber. So, yikes.

Well, that would be unfortunate. They weren't in for very long, as I turned it off pretty quickly after seeing that the blade wasn't lighting up. Hopefully once the batteries are charged, all will be well. If not, well, i guess I learned a valuable lesson.

I'm confused.... (sorry, this doesn't have to do with the question) I didn't believe they made an RGB Initiate V2, let alone one with sound....

Sorry, I meant the Dark Shock

Ooooohhh that makes much more sense now ;D

Well, after charging the batteries, the blade turns on again, but I lost 4 of the colors it used to have. Purple, yellow, and white are now red.

batteries are just the root of all troubles, US needs to just come up with an infinite power source that fits in the hilt like a real saber :P



Well said, well said. ds points plz. or cookies. either will work

So are these RGB issues a common thing? Or is it just a freak accident?  I'm about to order my first saber in DVA, and I don't want to have to send it back right away.

They're quite rare, actually. Since it's a forum color though, be warned the color might not turn out perfect(ex: miney DVA is almost completely blue). It can be rectified with Lee Filters or Color Disks though.

And remember, CHARGE THE BATTERIES BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING ELSE.

was hoping to see a solution to my problem but oh well...Key problem with my RGB.. the Red overrides the other colors without any mixing.  Doesn't matter what color is on.. try adding red.. and it turns red.  It happened shortly after the second battery recharge.  It happened prob second week i had it with no real "use" other then turning it on to show people so no hard use or jolts.

I'd email them (shipping@ultrasabers.com), your saber should still be under warranty, and they'll get right back to you. I had a problem and get a response in 3 hours (at 10pm their time).  Just don't try to fix the electronics yourself or you'll void it.

Ultrasabers helped identify the problem like the pros they are :), it ended up being a fully dead battery.. that's why the problem was there after a full charging.  Thank god it was something simple.. i'm not a electronics expert.  Posting so that i can give a public yell out of "Thanks guys! to the Ultrasaber team, and so that if someone in the future hits the problem they can check to see if the charger reads green when the batteries are dead.

I thought I'd pop this up here. I have a month old Aeon V3 that has Guardian Blue with VA for FoC. My FoC is sometimes a red then after a bit of being on turns pink. Here's the question though: When I have charged the L-Ion atteries the last two times one is dead/needing charge (red light on charger) the other one is fine (green light on charger). Is this a dying battery? Is this a symptom anyone has seen before?

Well, I emailed Ultrasabers and Emory got back in touch with me. They are sending me some complimentary batteries. Thank you Ultrasabers!

Hey my sentinel Yellow LED just started turning Green with a yellow flicker. What does that mean? Is it that the Red diode is burning out or something?

Count +1 for me. I am not also sure what is current position but i think you are quite right for this one.

The wire on the red lead might be loose by the resistor. I crunched a resistor putting the MLS in my Archon, and a little bit too much pressure broke the pin off the resistor. I ended up removing the resistor for a more amber color, then after I carelessly broke the other resistor, I rewired mine into a BR/AS module. I will definitely go for SY again in the future, and be a lot more careful taking it out and putting it back in my hilts. :)

How old is the LED and is it a wall mount I mean always running with a recharge port

So if it wouldn't hold up to the beating,what will happen?

Hello everyone!

I was looking for this set batterys but now i stumbled over this thread and i am not so sure anmore if the 1.5 Volts are acceptible...

I have a violett blade and i am looking for the windu colour.

http://www.amazon.de/Varta-Batterie-Lithium-Mignon-st%C3%BCck/dp/B004RPMHBE/ref=sr_1_46?ie=UTF8&qid=1371149736&sr=8-46&keywords=varta+akkus+aa (http://www.amazon.de/Varta-Batterie-Lithium-Mignon-st%C3%BCck/dp/B004RPMHBE/ref=sr_1_46?ie=UTF8&qid=1371149736&sr=8-46&keywords=varta+akkus+aa)

Can i use this batterys?
In tests they seem to rock nearly anything out of theyr socks for that price...

If there is another battery more fitting i dont care what it costs as long as it is the right colour.

Sidestory...

Yesterday night i was practicing a form i am trying to translate from talhofer to a dual blade saber with my little sister and then in the middle of the training my saber turned red...!

My sister asked me then if i am angry or something and i was wondering why? Then i recognized my red blades ^^

Update:

I just found these...

http://www.amazon.de/2%C3%97Ultrafire-18650-3200mAh-wiederaufladbare-gesch%C3%BCtze/dp/B00AC0R97U/ref=sr_1_10?s=ce-accessories&ie=UTF8&qid=1371150727&sr=1-10&keywords=3.7V+Li-Ion (http://www.amazon.de/2%C3%97Ultrafire-18650-3200mAh-wiederaufladbare-gesch%C3%BCtze/dp/B00AC0R97U/ref=sr_1_10?s=ce-accessories&ie=UTF8&qid=1371150727&sr=1-10&keywords=3.7V+Li-Ion)

They are the original batterys right?
When nobody found a better set i would just go with them then...

hey all thought id pipe up since there seems to be some confusion... the Li_ion batteries that Ultra sells are trustfire 14500 3.7v volt 900 Mah cells... if you are looking for cells to replace any you lost or have gone bad... the above mentioned cells are 1.5 volt which means that they are roughly Half the voltage of the ultra versions... and thus wont drive your LED correctly... if you are getting colors that are off.. its almost ALWAYS a dead cell or not the right voltage with the cell (ie someone using two energizers instead of two trustfires in a violet  saber will almost alwats make a RED blade... if it drives the LEDs at all, that being said, you always want the 14500 size at 3.7 volts and 900 Mah - the 14650 is a LARGER cell and wont fit at all... there is a variant of the 14500 that's got a surge protector on it and you can find those at amazon as well, they are covered in black/red flames and are called trustfire 14500 protected. generally if an LED fails it just fails outright it doesn't "fade"  - however you can have color variance across two similar setups as electronic standards allow in some cases up to 20% variance on the ability of parts. (i think for most of what ultra does its like 5%). in any case thought id drop this line in.

Dan Morningstar
Jedi Master Yen Sid - Saber Guild Temple Prime
Grey Jedi Askai Katani/ DArth Malygnus - Jen'ari The Dark Empire

2x Initiate V3 - Green
1x Initiate V3LE - Blue
1xDominix  - Magenta - Nano Biscotti 1.0
1xDark Warglaive - DVA - Nano Biscotti - FoC Amber
1x Ep5 Darth Vader - red - Nano Biscotti - FoC White
1x Custom MHS - Cyan - Petit Crouton 2.0

TOMY STARK? Where are you?

Good day, chaps.
I have a no sound Dark Initiate V3 in DVA and Li-Ion + buckpuck setup, 2 batteries. I've had it for about a week now and I've noticed that after using it for a while (can't really say how long) it just turns off, not turning red before like the VA does. I can't turn it on unless I take one of the batteries out and put it in again, then it lights up for a couple of seconds then dies again.
I assume this is because of the batteries just running out of charge, if I charge the batteries it works just fine until I've used it for a while and then the same thing happens again. I just wanted to check if this is normal for the DVA.
I also assume that it is not turning red before dying because of the fiddling with the red in the DVA LED. Am I right?
Thanks!

They only turn red before dying if you are using a standard, 4xAAA battery setup.  With a standard battery setup, the batteries slowly lose voltage as they discharge and the blue LED fades out first since it requires higher voltage to operate than the red one does.  So, the red one stays on longer, toward the end of your battery life.

You are using a buck puck and it uses the voltage in a different way.  Someone smarter than me can explain, but with the buck puck the saber simply "cuts off" when the voltage gets too low, and it does not fade out.

What you are experiencing is totally normal.  I recommend keeping 2 extra pairs of batteries for each Li-Ion saber that you own.

Enjoy your new saber!

Oh I see, that explains it. Thank you! :)

Its a different color but you notice it greatly in Sun Rider's Destiny and sometimes Arctic Blue. I had Sun Rider's Destiny stunt saber once and when the batteries would start to die it turned more deeper green same with the Arctic Blue I still have on my Overlord. So fresh batteries for stunt RGB's is a must.

hook it up to a petal generator. so in order to power the sabe you have to pedal a stationary bike.

My son's ultrasaber started doing this recently. We put in brand new tested batteries and it still happens. It would flicker red when he swings it. At one point it simply turned red and stayed there for about 30 minutes. After swinging it around it turned back Violet Amethyst. It's back to VA for now but this has been pretty common with this saber.

Besides batteries, what else could be the cause?

Loose wire to the blue diode on the LED?

A loose battery?  If power is reduced enough the blue will cut out first.

Solar power!!!

Thanks for the heads up deep

Lmao...
I read "if your blade looks dimmer than usual", I saw "if your babe looks dimmer than usual"
Lmao... "Nope, shes usually this dull..."
And in throuh my head go all of the other possible answers to that questions.... ;D

On serious note, thank you for putting this up, and it is unfortunate that we rely on these little cells of energy to power our peace keeping, or rage mongering, or ... Gray??? Weapons of which we hold dear...
So yeah...
Thanks yinz!

Which batteries would be most recommended if you have the standard AAA set-up? I have the Bane's Heart color and I have successfully turned it from bright pink to deep red within minutes, multiple times using Energizer batteries. If not, how difficult would it be to exchange for an Li rechargeable battery set-up? Thanks!




*Also, shout-out to the kind Ultrasabers Jedi I ran into tonight who helped me pinpoint this problem in Frontierland's pin shop in Disneyland!

Shake weight batteries!!

Fuel cell.

Not sure if this has been mentioned as an option, but sabers with the Emerald driver and RGB LED can change the color to whatever, so changing the HUE and saturation of the color darker would be an option.

Just my 2 cents worth of advice.

  lol yes that would be awesome, if we could put something in that will create energy maybe we can get some real crystals and have real lightsabers lol so awesome 😭 not in my life time

I just ordered a new saber and took a chance on the Violet Amethyst.  Ive always gone with Tri-Cree solid colors in my previous Ultra-sabers but really like the look of that Amethyst color.  I hope with the regular battery setup that Im not disappointed with how well it holds the color.  I use eneloop rechargeables whch are pretty good batteries.  Im probably worrying for nothing but just hope it stays purple looking for the most part!

I was told my sentinel yellow looks orange because of battery issues as well though I do notice one of the emitter windows show it is legit off balance with too much red vs green. After research I found something called NiZn (Nickle zinc) newer technology rechargeable batteries which gives 1.6v (1.5 v under load) which is what alkaline batteries are supposed to give off the shelf though that seldom occurs after it is under load. These batteries are designed for fast draining devices such as rc cars and flashlights (so lightsabers). Their capacity is a bit smaller so I imagine it doesn't last as long. I also have regular rechargeable batteries that has a selling point of larger capacity (1150mah as opposed to regular 800 to 900). Will report in if these options makes any difference. I'm thinking the higher voltage will be accurate in colour but the higher capacity would be good for like a con or event as back up.

What do you mean by “regular” rechargeable batteries? 

Anything above 800 or so mAh is highly suspect; unless you have experience with these exact cells, I would be reluctant to trust their claims of safety, since the mAh rating is (likely) bogus.  Are these cells protected cells?  If not, I would not use them at all (but some people have no such reservations, and still have all their fingers, and both eyes).

In this case regular rechargeables would be nickel metal hydride or similar.  These nickel zinc cells are replacements for common AA or AAA cells, NOT for Li-ion cells. They are 1.6 volts not 3.7. These are only usable in stunt or Obsidian Lite setups. They do not have the output potential of Lithium but the do have extended life versus other AA and AAA rechargeable batteries.

J'ai résolu mon problème de sabre violet devenu rouge en enlevant la résistance qui bridé le bleue.
Me voilà soulagé  ;D :D

Google Translate provides the following English meaning:


My own very limited knowledge of French suggests the following reply:

Ç’est tres bon!

Cyclops942 perfect  ;)

This is a Blue-Violet Amethyst setup.

I was trying to figure out why my Adegan Silver Apprentice turned RED.  My kid stuck a color disc in it.  Drove me nuts for about 3 minutes, 🤪

hahahaha point for the laugh!
 ;D ;D