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Title: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Deep on September 30, 2011, 01:54:03 AM
This is probably the #1 question from new Ultra Sabers customers.  So I’m going to do my best to break it down here for everyone.  If you guys have any difference of opinion or anything to add to the subject, please feel free to discuss it here.  I’m sure everyone would like to get as many different perspectives as possible before making their purchases.  Let’s begin.

We have 4 different blade TYPES:
1. Midgrade
2. Ultraedge Midgrade
3. Heavy Grade
4. Ultraedge Heavy Grade


We have 3 different blade LENGTHS:
1. 36” Blade (This is the blade length used in all of our non-Initiate sabers.  This is the length of blade you’ll get for your saber unless otherwise specified)
2. 24” Blade (otherwise known as the Initiate blade.  If your saber says Initiate in the title this is the length of blade you’ll get unless otherwise specified or upgraded)
3. 32” Blade (this is the blade length favorite for double bladed sabers and upgraded Initiate sabers)




Ultraedge EXPLAINED
Any blade type with Ultraedge in the title is made of white polycarbonate.  The purpose of the white polycarbonate is to make the blade look fuller when illuminated.  The white polycarbonate helps take the light all the way to the edge of the blade, hence the name UltraEDGE.  This effect makes the blade look fuller when the saber is on.

Heavy Grade EXPLAINED
Any blade type with Heavy Grade in the title has a blade wall that is twice as thick as a non-Heavy Grade blade wall.  These blades also weigh twice as much.  There is a slight sacrifice in brightness for brutal strength and durability.  This sacrifice is slight in regular Heavy Grade blades; it is a bit more apparent in Ultraedge Heavy Grade blades, but only for some colors.  These blades are recommend for all moderate to heavy dueling and heavy contact usage.

Midgrade EXPLAINED
Any blade type that isn’t heavy grade is automatically a Midgrade blade.  Blade walls on midgrade blades are half as thick as Heavy Grade blade walls.  Midgrade blades also weigh half as much.  These blades were definitely made with a bend but don’t break mentality in mind.  Because the blade wall is half as thick these blade will bend during heavy contact, but because they are made from high quality polycarbonate they will not break during light contact.  These blades are recommended for maximum brightness, spinning techniques, and light dueling and light contact.

I decided not to use pictures or video to help these explanations because the differences aren’t as apparent in video or in pictures as they are in person.  So I recommend seeing these different blade types with different colors for yourself in person in order to formulate your own opinions on them.





All Ultra Blades are made with blade film on the inside.  This film helps carry the light evenly through the blade.  On our clear polycarbonate blades (Midgrade & Heavy Grade), this film is what gives the blade a metallic/silverish look when the blade is not illuminated.  This look is a favorite among some saber enthusiasts.

All Ultra Blades are made with polycarbonate tips glued to the top of them.  These blade tips have semi-transparent reflective bottoms that keep most of the light in the blade in order to keep the blade itself as bright as possible.  If you would like that bottom removed, which would sacrifice some blade brightness for a fully illuminated tip, it would be a bit extra (much like a pointed tip), but we could build it for you.

Pointed Tips vs Round Tips
There is nothing special about pointed tips other than the fact that they are pointed and the other tips are round.  These cost more because we do not stock them and have to make each one custom on an order by order basis.  Whereas we have hundreds of blades with pointed tips made and in stock.  Increased lead time means that it will take us longer to ship the saber due to having to custom make the blade.  Typically this is only a 24-48 hour delay, but could (VERY VERY seldom) be longer depending on stock.














Deep’s Blade Type Opinions
Above is as unbiased explanation of the different blade types that I could surmise.  From here on will be just my OPINION of the different blade types.  These are not facts, just my observations and my opinions.  The first thing I want to say may come as a surprise to many people, but it’s definitely my observation… Ultraedge Heavy Grade is NOT the best blade type.  In fact it may even be the worst in some situations.  I think lots of new customers pick it by default because it has the longest name or sounds the coolest, but in some situations, it’s not the best blade type.

Ultraedge Heavy Grade is DIMMER than Heavy Grade.  The blade looks fuller because the light goes all the way to the edge but there is a slight drop in brightness.

Ultraedge Heavy Grade looks great in Guardian Blue, Consular Green, and Adegan Silver.  You get the benefits of a Heavy Grade blade and the great look of an Ultraedge Blade.

Ultraedge Heavy Grade looks good in Violet Amethyst and Arctic Blue.

Ultraedge Heavy Grade looks decent in Sunrider’s Destiny and Blazing Red.

Ultraedge Heavy Grade looks bad in Fire Orange.

AGAIN, these are just my opinions, my eyes are different than your eyes.  I know many people that think Blazing Red looks amazing in Ultraedge Heavy Grade, and honestly that’s all that matters is that you love your saber.

Again, in my opinion, Fire Orange & Blazing Red always belong in Midgrade or Heavy Grade blades.  Ultraedge and Ultraedge Heavy Grade blades take away from the true hue of those colors greatly in my eyes and is slightly dimmer.  Our other colors look great in both clear and white polycarbonate.

In my opinion, RGB sabers should use Midgrade and Heavy Grade blades IF you plan to use Red a lot.  The other 6 colors in the RGB look good in both clear and white polycarbonate.

In my opinion, Guardian Blue, Consular Green, Adegan Silver, and Violet Amethyst look much better in Ultraedge with the blade illuminated.  But the cool look of the clear polycarbonate with the blade off make it a hard decision.

I like round tips better than pointed tips.




Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Qui-Tom Helms on September 30, 2011, 02:24:49 AM
Well said!  I'm just a mid grade man myself.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: ThreadJack on September 30, 2011, 02:31:01 AM
This is great. I'll start pointing people to this from now on.

Just to add one thing, we use abbreviations a lot when referring to blades. Just to avoid/clear up any confusion:

MG= Mid Grade.
UE or UEMG= Ultra Edge Mid Grade.
HG= Heavy Grade.
UEHG= Ultra Edge Heavy Grade.


I'm also a mid grade/UE man. I have two UEHG's, but considering I don't really duel, that's kinda overkill IMO.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Kaiden Shardsbane on September 30, 2011, 03:46:49 AM
Thanks Deep!  I'll point people here too.

My preferences...

Round tips.  Always.
Heavy Grade, no matter what.  It doesn't detract from the brightness, unless you're scientifically measuring it in infinitesimal amounts.  It also ensures that you can only break a blade if you're specifically trying to break said blade.  And sometimes not even then.

I started with UEHG blades on all my sabers, but recently find myself leaning towards regular HG blades.  Fire Orange should almost always be on regular, and should only be combined with UE if you want an almost yellow effect on-camera.  Arctic Blue, on the other hand, should be on an UE blade.  The other colors are relatively neutral as to blade type.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Vex on September 30, 2011, 03:54:01 AM
Great post Deep!!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: shyguy3000 on September 30, 2011, 04:03:37 AM
Thanks Deep!  I'll point people here too.

My preferences...

Round tips.  Always.
Heavy Grade, no matter what.  It doesn't detract from the brightness, unless you're scientifically measuring it in infinitesimal amounts.  It also ensures that you can only break a blade if you're specifically trying to break said blade.  And sometimes not even then.

I started with UEHG blades on all my sabers, but recently find myself leaning towards regular HG blades.  Fire Orange should almost always be on regular, and should only be combined with UE if you want an almost yellow effect on-camera.  Arctic Blue, on the other hand, should be on an UE blade.  The other colors are relatively neutral as to blade type.

I second this, though I would be the opposite lol. I started with Regular Heavy Grades blades in all my sabers. Then started to fool around with UEHG blades, now leaning back toward the regular blades again =P

But yeah although I don't have a fire orange saber, I do have a Pyrestone Orange one and it definitely looks better in the regular blade. (In UE, it looked pale, dull and pretty boring in person lol) 


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: imperialknight23 on September 30, 2011, 05:08:06 AM
Time to link this to the Unofficial Ultrasabers Buying Guide


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master Nero Attoru on September 30, 2011, 03:46:10 PM
Thank you SO much for this Deep!  This is something I always try to explain when people are confused - though I can understand their confusion since there are quite a few different parameters for blade type.  I personally prefer the regulars - mid grade and heavy grade - to the Ultraedge.  Don't get me wrong the Ultraedge are very pretty blades, and the effect with the light extending throughout the blade is awesome, but I just prefer the simple unaltered light core in the regular blades. 

Lately I've been a midgrade guy - my very first Ultrasaber had a heavy grade which is great, but something that people don't realize is that the midgrade blades can withstand a TON of punishment.  I have had quite a few that have held up to all types of dueling.  To me, they're safer too - the hefty weight of a heavy grade blade can be dangerous without protective gear.  After all, the things are so damn tough that your head will crack before the saber will!  Finally, I prefer the rounded tips - simpler, cheaper, no lead time, and they make stabbing moves less painful for my poor friends ;)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Gawlron on October 06, 2011, 04:16:12 PM
Thanks for the post! It was very imforative.

I recently purchased a UltraSaber and am very happy with it. I purchased a UltraEdge Heavy Grade. It was worth it. I had a duel with my daughter lastnight. :) We had to be careful though, she was using my Hasbro (I'm glad the UltraSaber removed the "Pwned by Hasbro" from my buttox) Obi-Wan ROTS FX Saber.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Varan Folos on October 07, 2011, 08:46:03 AM
I'm considering sentinel yellow for my next saber. What would be the ideal blade for this color in your opinion?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Saberstar on October 07, 2011, 09:35:03 PM
Great post..
 
 Personly I think the blade If it`s UE or MG depends on the color. On my Luke ANH Hasbro I have a Blue guardian with anitiate/midgrade blade. The color is much warmer and dosen`t look like torch. So from now on It will be Mid grade or heavy grade blades. It`s actually a hard choice cause of the atmospheric room around you ,the light and of course the LED-color. The blade color is allways different on camera than the eye can see.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: darth tratus on October 07, 2011, 10:35:28 PM
excellent post deep. point for this! ;D
this is very informative. i wish this were posted when i made my purchase. i picked the perfect one though. this will help alot of people out.
im with round tips too ;)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Gaius on October 11, 2011, 05:50:17 AM
Deep thank you so much for posting this.  I found this extremely useful in selecting the blade for my first saber.

Just saw that my first blade is on the way, but of course at a minimum I am going to need a 2nd in the household and I am thinking it may be Sentinel Yellow (unless my son insists on consular green or sunrider's destiny--green is his favorite color).  In reading this over it appeared that the Yellow would be pretty neutral as to blade type but perhaps brighter in ultraedge, is that correct?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Kham-Ryn Kurios on October 11, 2011, 06:04:03 AM
I'm considering sentinel yellow for my next saber. What would be the ideal blade for this color in your opinion?

Depends if you want a fuller blade get UE, unfortunately interns a little orange near the tip.

If you want to see that yellow get Migrate or heavy.

I started out with UE but then mid grades really grew on me.

I like the look of the SY in mid grade because yellow is already a light color so it looks a little washed out with a UE.

SY ftw! ;D


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Varan Folos on October 12, 2011, 01:21:32 AM
Thank you for the info, I've decided to go with the mid grade then.  :)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Kham-Ryn Kurios on October 12, 2011, 01:28:14 AM
Thank you for the info, I've decided to go with the mid grade then.  :)

Good Choice. ;D


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Darth Eyece on October 16, 2011, 09:14:45 AM
I think all four of these blades have their places.  But I love the UEHG blades.  The fullness in color is very nice, but when I find someone willing to part with an Aeon LE hilt/pommel only, I will be getting a HG blade for the SY I want in that LE. 

I'm really getting into this color combo thing, and I am getting some colored disks, and a white LED and colored polycarbonate tubes as well.  I feel to fully appreciate the spectrum of saber colors, one does need to see them all.  With all the colors Ultrasabers has perfected, colored disks, and colored blades, one could make just about any shade they were after.  As long as they are HG or UEHG for me!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Darth Eyece on October 16, 2011, 09:23:25 AM
oh yeah, and rounded tips all the way!  I spar with friends, and stabbing practice would suck with pointed tips!!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Saberstar on October 17, 2011, 07:58:26 PM
Well said Deep, I think my opinon is that the Mid grade-blades makes the flash/light a bit warmer. Sometimes the UE it`s a bit cold and looks like a torch..


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Shami Pemas on October 20, 2011, 03:28:23 AM
maybe i'm just not looking in the right spot, but where on the store site can i buy a 32" blade? i just bought a dark initiate v2 LE for my girlfriend (and a consular for myself of course) and she is less than pleased with the 24" blade, especially next to the 36" blade in my consular. could somebody point me in the right direction? Thanks!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master Nero Attoru on October 20, 2011, 03:54:05 AM
maybe i'm just not looking in the right spot, but where on the store site can i buy a 32" blade? i just bought a dark initiate v2 LE for my girlfriend (and a consular for myself of course) and she is less than pleased with the 24" blade, especially next to the 36" blade in my consular. could somebody point me in the right direction? Thanks!

All you have to do is get the 36" blade and ask them to cut it down to 32" in your order comments.  They'll do it for you.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Darth Gekido on October 21, 2011, 11:30:20 AM
Deep, you are the master.  Unfortunately, I read this post AFTER I ordered my first US saber, a Bellicose with Fiery Orange, and I chose the UltraEdge Heavy Grade.  And yes, it looks a little peachy. :)  It's okay, though, I plan on ordering a Mid Grade blade for it, along with a Dark Warglaive pommel.  I think the new pommel will make it look great.  I also plan to get a Phantom V3 double blade, and I'm going to save money for the Anakin Skywalker ROTS.  I'm so glad I found your website.  Coolest Ever!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: RLYHYPERGUY on November 30, 2011, 05:11:12 AM
Mid Grade FTW! I personally own Consular Green, Violet Amethyst, and Adegan Silver and this is my opinion on blade types for the:

UltraEdge Mid Grade: GREAT on Consular Green, good on Violet Amethyst and Adegan Silver.

Standard Mid Grade: Good on Consular Green, GREAT on Adegan Silver and Violet Amethyst.

I Like VA more in Mid Grade because of the better color saturation. The UltraEdge makes it look a bit more pink-ish and if you really want a true purple then Mid Grade is the way to go. Adegan Silver, however, looks a bit more silvery in Mid Grade and is a true white in UltraEdge. I personally prefer the slightly more silvery look.  :)

The Mid Grade also makes the blades look much sharper.  ;D


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: jedi_gaurdian on December 02, 2011, 08:46:57 PM
Thank you, Deep, this has helped a lot, i will keep your observations and descriptions in mind when buying my first saber
 :)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: todestrieb on December 03, 2011, 10:18:30 AM
Hello!

So i want to buy my first saber and ultrasabers seems like the way to go! Now if i could, id like some expert help from people who own sabers from ultrasabers :o

Now ive read the blade guide but still im unsure about what to choose. I want my blade to be blazing red and i would like the absolute maximum brightness. So what blade type should i select? I heard much good about midgrade, but i also heard alot good about UE. Is standard midgrade brighter than UE? Or is a mix better? Its so confusing!

regards
M


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: RLYHYPERGUY on December 03, 2011, 07:17:16 PM
Hello!

So i want to buy my first saber and ultrasabers seems like the way to go! Now if i could, id like some expert help from people who own sabers from ultrasabers :o

Now ive read the blade guide but still im unsure about what to choose. I want my blade to be blazing red and i would like the absolute maximum brightness. So what blade type should i select? I heard much good about midgrade, but i also heard alot good about UE. Is standard midgrade brighter than UE? Or is a mix better? Its so confusing!

regards
M


Go for Mid Grade. No matter what blade you choose it will still be EXTREMELY bright! UE is more of an optical illusion when it comes to brightness. Also, red will look MUCH more sinister in Mid Grade. Check out these topics for comparisons:

http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=1101.0 (http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=1101.0)

http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=3532.0 (http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=3532.0)

http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=666.0 (http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=666.0)

Another thing about the blades though is that they do get some markings after dueling and those are much more apparent in UE blades. If you want a fuller, softer looking blade though then go for UltraEdge!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: todestrieb on December 03, 2011, 08:38:06 PM
Go for Mid Grade. No matter what blade you choose it will still be EXTREMELY bright! UE is more of an optical illusion when it comes to brightness. Also, red will look MUCH more sinister in Mid Grade. Check out these topics for comparisons:

[url]http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=1101.0[/url] ([url]http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=1101.0[/url])

[url]http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=3532.0[/url] ([url]http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=3532.0[/url])

[url]http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=666.0[/url] ([url]http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=666.0[/url])

Another thing about the blades though is that they do get some markings after dueling and those are much more apparent in UE blades. If you want a fuller, softer looking blade though then go for UltraEdge!


Great, thanks alot! Nah im after that sinister red look, and im probably not going to duel at all. More or less just use it for show and or for suits (since im going to build a Darth Malgus costume)
But again thanks for the info :D


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Hawk on December 14, 2011, 09:28:31 PM
Looks like I made a good choice then with the blue in UE.  Its WAY bright.



Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Hawk on December 15, 2011, 05:47:17 AM
Actually... after reading even more on these... Im not so sure now....

I want the brightest blue.
I was at a convention with my green UE a while ago, and a guy there bought one of the new sabers...whoever makes them now...anyway, his was green and it was so much brighter than mine. I didnt want to stand next to him.

So I really dont want that to happen with my new Guardian.

Should I have picked the midgrade?  (funny thing, I actually thought the white was the mid and the clear was the UE...now I know its the other way around)

Which is best for conventions?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Kaiden Shardsbane on December 15, 2011, 05:53:49 AM
Did you make sure it had new battery?  Even a half-charged battery (unless it Li-Ion) is dimmer than a full charge.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master Nero Attoru on December 15, 2011, 11:48:04 AM
Actually... after reading even more on these... Im not so sure now....

I want the brightest blue.
I was at a convention with my green UE a while ago, and a guy there bought one of the new sabers...whoever makes them now...anyway, his was green and it was so much brighter than mine. I didnt want to stand next to him.

So I really dont want that to happen with my new Guardian.

Should I have picked the midgrade?  (funny thing, I actually thought the white was the mid and the clear was the UE...now I know its the other way around)

Which is best for conventions?

I always recommend midgrade as a go-to choice, it's bright and well balanced and shows off any color flawlessly!  The Ultraedge is nice, but it's a little pastel to me... not my cup of tea really.

The good news is, pretty much anything looks good on blue.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Kham-Ryn Kurios on December 15, 2011, 04:11:17 PM
I always recommend midgrade as a go-to choice, it's bright and well balanced and shows off any color flawlessly!  The Ultraedge is nice, but it's a little pastel to me... not my cup of tea really.

The good news is, pretty much anything looks good on blue.

This is sooooo True.

 After learning that GB is possibly the Brightest color they offer, I got a Heavy grade UE with my GB Archon v2.

There is like no dimming. It's so bright.



Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Vrakul on December 28, 2011, 06:22:05 AM
I wish I'd done my diligence and found this post before I ordered the Dark War Glaive with Fire Orange/Red FoC and the Ultra Edge blade! I'm already putting together my second saber, and when I place that order I'll either pick up an extra midgrade blade for the DWG, or simply order the second saber with the midgrade in one of the colors that works well with the UE blade and then swap 'em out.

Thanks for the very informative post, Deep!  ;D


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Zren Tobas on January 03, 2012, 04:18:58 AM
I'm trying out an Ultra Edge Heavy Grade blade in my next order. Its going to be an Archon V2 in Consular Green. How does the Ultra Edge Heavy Grade blade in Consular Green look in person?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master Nero Attoru on January 03, 2012, 01:40:15 PM
I'm trying out an Ultra Edge Heavy Grade blade in my next order. Its going to be an Archon V2 in Consular Green. How does the Ultra Edge Heavy Grade blade in Consular Green look in person?

It looks pretty good.  I bought an UEHG a while back to complement my original blade, a regular heavy grade.  Consular Green works well with it because it's bright enough to get past the dimming effect of the heavier grade blade while still looking good with the Ultraedge style tint.

Here's a thought, for a better balanced and slightly brighter blade you could try getting your UEHG in 32" rather than the standard 36".  The Archon V2 isn't terribly long, so the shorter blade wouldn't look out of place.  Just an idea.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Kham-Ryn Kurios on January 03, 2012, 05:18:41 PM
It looks pretty good.  I bought an UEHG a while back to complement my original blade, a regular heavy grade.  Consular Green works well with it because it's bright enough to get past the dimming effect of the heavier grade blade while still looking good with the Ultraedge style tint.

Here's a thought, for a better balanced and slightly brighter blade you could try getting your UEHG in 32" rather than the standard 36".  The Archon V2 isn't terribly long, so the shorter blade wouldn't look out of place.  Just an idea.

Also another thought.

I bought a UEHG with my GB Archoon v2; mainly because GB is like the brightest lol.

I took a bunch of pennies and wrapped them in ductape, into small separate rolls so they fit inside. Then again all of mine are stunt sabers so there isn't anything inside. Anyways since the Archon v2 is short, it helps move the balance point down towards your hand so it isn't AS blade heavy, because it's a Heavy Grade.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Darkside Hero on January 09, 2012, 09:09:13 PM
I forget who it was (was somewhere one page 1) but he pretty much answered my question. I plan to do a lot of dueling, and sparing, and based on what I have been reading, I think the midgrade is the best choice. I don't really want it to heavy, but I want great color, and was wondering if it can take punishment. Thanx a lot for this info cause like every other uninformed person, I was most likely headed for the ultra edge heavy grade blade.   :o


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Zavin on January 18, 2012, 02:53:45 AM
Hey guys, quick question (new here) which blade looks the brightest with Artcic Blue? I'm looking for a saber that's the brightests and able to endure some heavy dueling, and has no dim. Any ideas? I have to order the saber as soon as tomorrow!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Kham-Ryn Kurios on January 18, 2012, 04:14:07 AM
Hey guys, quick question (new here) which blade looks the brightest with Artcic Blue? I'm looking for a saber that's the brightests and able to endure some heavy dueling, and has no dim. Any ideas? I have to order the saber as soon as tomorrow!


Your answer can be found here good sir. ;D

http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=22.msg58836;boardseen#new (http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=22.msg58836;boardseen#new)

At the bottom of the page.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Zavin on January 18, 2012, 05:12:03 AM
Your answer can be found here good sir. ;D

[url]http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=22.msg58836;boardseen#new[/url] ([url]http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=22.msg58836;boardseen#new[/url])

At the bottom of the page.


Thanks! didn't mean to double post!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Kham-Ryn Kurios on January 18, 2012, 05:17:55 AM
Thanks! didn't mean to double post!

Sall Good. lol

Your new. ;D



Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Darth_Alecto on January 23, 2012, 06:58:26 PM
This a very helpful topic for me in thinking about what blade to use on my first saber that I will eventually buy.  Much appreciated   ;D


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Kham-Ryn Kurios on January 23, 2012, 07:02:38 PM
This a very helpful topic for me in thinking about what blade to use on my first saber that I will eventually buy.  Much appreciated   ;D

You're welcome. ;D

Any ideas on where you'll start?

I know the choice can be daunting.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Darth_Alecto on January 23, 2012, 08:17:12 PM
Honestly....no XD haha I just discovered Ultra Sabers last week and have been very impressed with the videos and reviews I have seen of the sabers.  At the moment I'm pretty broke but later on when I have money again I was thinking about getting one.  I was lead here by looking for the Qui-Gon Jinn hilt and found Ultra Sabers version of that hilt.  I thought that was definitely going to be my choice, but now I'm torn by so many haha


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: ThreadJack on January 23, 2012, 08:28:06 PM
Honestly....no XD haha I just discovered Ultra Sabers last week and have been very impressed with the videos and reviews I have seen of the sabers.  At the moment I'm pretty broke but later on when I have money again I was thinking about getting one.  I was lead here by looking for the Qui-Gon Jinn hilt and found Ultra Sabers version of that hilt.  I thought that was definitely going to be my choice, but now I'm torn by so many haha

I'd HIGHLY recommend the Consular. It's a sweet hilt.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Kham-Ryn Kurios on January 23, 2012, 08:29:37 PM
I'd HIGHLY recommend the Consular. It's a sweet hilt.

It is very choice.

It's a sturdy saber; light enough for one handing and solid enough for two handing.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: ThreadJack on January 23, 2012, 08:30:35 PM
Plus it looks sick.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Darth_Alecto on January 24, 2012, 12:41:36 AM
Very cool, thx for the feedback.  It may eventually end up being my first saber.  But of course I'm going to also think about the other sweet sabers on here too as a possibility (Liberator v3, Overlord, Archon v2, Raven, Guardian).  I do have time to think XD Btw would the grab bag be a good choice for a first saber?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master Nero Attoru on January 24, 2012, 04:14:10 AM
Very cool, thx for the feedback.  It may eventually end up being my first saber.  But of course I'm going to also think about the other sweet sabers on here too as a possibility (Liberator v3, Overlord, Archon v2, Raven, Guardian).  I do have time to think XD Btw would the grab bag be a good choice for a first saber?

I would say the grab bag is not a good choice for your first saber, unless you really have NO preference at all which saber you get.  My advice is, if you have a saber you like, go for it.

The grab bag option is nice, but you're really not saving all that much money - probability says you'll get an Initiate or Dominix or something anyway.  There's always the chance of getting a higher-end saber, but like anything it's a gamble.

Back on topic now.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Darth_Alecto on January 24, 2012, 04:19:37 AM
Thanks a bunch for the info.  I am really liking the help in the forums :)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Rillek on February 11, 2012, 07:51:18 AM
I am looking to make my first purchase of an ultrasaber.  I've decided on the hilt (standard issue battle saber) and the color (guardian blue), however I'm not sure as to which blade type would be the best for overall brightness; ultraedge or midgrade? 

Thanks for any help. 


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Kham-Ryn Kurios on February 11, 2012, 08:21:39 AM
I am looking to make my first purchase of an ultrasaber.  I've decided on the hilt (standard issue battle saber) and the color (guardian blue), however I'm not sure as to which blade type would be the best for overall brightness; ultraedge or midgrade? 

Thanks for any help. 


I don't want to be a turd and just say take a look here but here is a link that Deep from US posted about his thoughts on the blades.

http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=3096.msg38599 (http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=3096.msg38599)

It will help you weed out what you want and don't want but in the end it'll be personal opinion.

I suggest, if you have the money of course, to buy two blades. choose one type and than get the opposite as well.

Both types UltraEdge MidGrade and Normal MidGrade have different qualities from one another. Both are great but it's always a tough decision.

What color were you thinking of because that will help narrow down what to go with.

Some colors look better in different blade types.

Good on you for asking questions. ;D


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Tangerinelightstik on February 16, 2012, 09:23:36 AM
As a star wars fan since birth I was overjoyed at the thought of being able to use a saber in a duel and not have to worry about it breaking!!! That by its self is amazing but then they let choose the color the blade; fire orange was my first instinct haha. Also got a UEHG blade with a pointed tip(I hope it won't hurt to bad). Any ideas on improving this setup? This is my first saber too I just hope the shipping won't take long.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Darth Gekido on February 16, 2012, 09:38:33 AM
Quote
As a star wars fan since birth I was overjoyed at the thought of being able to use a saber in a duel and not have to worry about it breaking!!! That by its self is amazing but then they let choose the color the blade; fire orange was my first instinct haha. Also got a UEHG blade with a pointed tip(I hope it won't hurt to bad). Any ideas on improving this setup? This is my first saber too I just hope the shipping won't take long.

I would actually recommend NOT getting a UEHG blade with a Fire Orange saber, the blade does NOT compliment the color very well. Fire Orange looks much, much better in Heavy Grade or Mid Grade. This is just my opinion, though. ;)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Tangerinelightstik on February 16, 2012, 09:52:38 AM
I already ordered ><

But I plan getting another saber soon so I will just get something that I can switch the blade and not be too dull.....


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Darth Gekido on February 16, 2012, 10:13:11 AM
That's exactly what I ended up doing, too. I got all excited and ordered my saber before reading the thread about blade types. But it turned out well in the end, and now I know to check that thread when considering blade colors. They say it's good to have one of each, so I'm well on my way.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Tangerinelightstik on February 16, 2012, 10:19:28 AM
I'm still happy with what I got it just means I need to get more. So it's a win-win kinda thing. Lol just can't wait till it gets here


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: CZ3RO on February 28, 2012, 05:19:17 AM
It's a shame this will end up so far down the thread, but here's a quick visual comparison of the Midgrade and the Heavy Grade (both are standard edge):

Heavy on the right obviously.
(http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa323/CZ3RO1/SAM_1074.jpg)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Kham-Ryn Kurios on February 29, 2012, 07:18:26 AM
It's a shame this will end up so far down the thread, but here's a quick visual comparison of the Midgrade and the Heavy Grade (both are standard edge):

Heavy on the right obviously.
([url]http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa323/CZ3RO1/SAM_1074.jpg[/url])


Find a suitable place and ask a mod to add it in.

This is crisp picture and is a great visual of what you're working with.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Darth Ryô on March 01, 2012, 09:20:39 AM
Well this picture speaks for itself, HG are twice a thick indeed  :o

Now, I guess I have an idea about what I'd like to choose for my first saber, since it would most likelly be red color, I understand I should go for Mid-Range.
Maybe i'll just order an additional UEHG just to see the difference.

Still I have a question, I well understand the blades are durable and all, but I wonder how durable is the blade holder part (the hilt in general). For example, the Procecy looks to have a thin blade holder attached to the hilt.
Let's assume some dueling, the blade will be strong, but will the blade holder be?
Is there any recommendation regarding this (some blade holders are strickly for display while other are for dueling... (just noob wondering here, as I have no knowledge on that)?
Hope I'm not off topic.
Cheers!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master Nero Attoru on March 01, 2012, 01:08:07 PM
Still I have a question, I well understand the blades are durable and all, but I wonder how durable is the blade holder part (the hilt in general). For example, the Procecy looks to have a thin blade holder attached to the hilt.
Let's assume some dueling, the blade will be strong, but will the blade holder be?
Is there any recommendation regarding this (some blade holders are strickly for display while other are for dueling... (just noob wondering here, as I have no knowledge on that)?
Hope I'm not off topic.
Cheers!

The thing about Ultrasabers is that they're designed from the ground up as battle sabers.  Rather than focusing on a ton of details and whatnot, they strive to make sure these things can stand up to a nuclear war and still remain intact.

I mean I don't work for them so I can't say anything for 100% sure, but I do know that they don't put a product out if it's not durable to the millionth degree.  I would say it's safe to assume ANY blade holder is going to hold up in a duel - especially since the hilts are all made out of aircraft-grade aluminum.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Darth Gekido on March 01, 2012, 07:59:03 PM
The Prophecy is a great dueling hilt, it is one solid piece, with only a removable pommel. It also has two blade retention screws, making it a very sturdy saber. It is very light when used with a Mid Grade blade.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Darth Ryô on March 02, 2012, 02:19:04 PM
Thanks for the answers both  ;)
Gives confidence in the product!

Anyway, I guess i'll really have an idea of that when I'll hold my first saber. Difficult to picture it without touching hehe.
I saw a bunch of videos, but was wondering, is there any video showing how the blade is removed / attached to the hilt, or even how a saber is assembled / disasembled?

There are some nice blade holder on TCSS too, so I wonder how easy it is to detach the blade, change the holder, ...etc... yet it may be off topic here  ::)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Darth Ryô on March 12, 2012, 11:14:50 AM
Back from holidays, back to work, and back to saber research too :)

Just for info, in fack I've mistaken the saber name in my previous post, wanted to talk about the Catalyst (and not the Prophecy).
Anyway, got my questions answered in the Review section of the forum  ;)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: NexusNinja19 on March 19, 2012, 03:18:24 AM
I just Have a question about the UE Blades. My Question is the UE Blades okay to get if your going to use a saber for little to some heavy dueling??? and Dose the colors of the sabers look good when it has the UE Blades????


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: BenPass on March 19, 2012, 05:01:23 AM
I just Have a question about the UE Blades. My Question is the UE Blades okay to get if your going to use a saber for little to some heavy dueling??? and Dose the colors of the sabers look good when it has the UE Blades????

UE comes in MG and HG so it would be the same idea as normal MG and HG I would assume (i.e. MG good for spins and light sparring, and HG for more heavy whacking)...as to how it looks, some people say that UE tends to give the color a more pastel kind of look. Some people don't agree with that at all. I think it really boils down to your own personal eyes.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: NexusNinja19 on March 21, 2012, 08:15:38 AM
Ok thanks for your answer. because in the video's that are on youtube they don't say what type of blade it is but in some they do if it's a video of someone doing a review on it. and i was just asking because if i get one i am thinking about going with the UE because i just want to do some little dueling with it and know that it is going to hold up to that.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Chainmale75 on March 21, 2012, 01:00:37 PM
I have the standard mid-grades on my sabers, and me and my son duel pretty hard at times, mostly clashing after a spin or something to that effect, where we hit harder than we normally do, and we have no issues with the blades...cept for popping a top, but some superglue fixed that. The Mids have a little more flex to them than I'd like, but tolerable. Though my next buys will most likely have heavy grades so i can see and feel the differences.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Avalon on March 30, 2012, 09:51:07 AM
Dear all friend of the ultra saber forum, i want to purchase my first saber too, my choice is blazing red and my require is i want the maximum brightest even in the morning time.

, and I was check the http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=3532.0 (http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=3532.0) already, and  i don't sure my eye was deceive me or not, but the UE blade look more better MG in the

blazing red color.jump to my conclusion, i think may be i purchase the UE grade? but second question pop in my head that the UE can do a sword duel, swing blade around or not?

thank you all in advance for the question. and sorry for my poor grammar.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Xanedan on March 30, 2012, 10:22:27 AM
It's not so much that the UE blade is brighter, as it fills more evenly.  With a standard mid-grade you'll still be able to see the tube when it's lit.  You can notice by how much of the text on the display stand is illuminated that the standard blade sends out more light.  Blazing red, in itself, is probably the dimmest color on offer here - but don't let that deter you, it will still be noticeably lit, even in broad daylight. 

UE blades are, from my experience, every bit as durable as a standard - in other words very much so.  You'll probably lose a cap eventually (I have the worst luck, generally happens on the first good clash I give any blade) but that can be glued back on incredibly easily. 


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Avalon on March 30, 2012, 04:30:52 PM
thank you very much Xanedan for the answer,  :D


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: srams on April 17, 2012, 06:39:16 PM
Whats this NEW Fiber Optic UltraFILM blade?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master Nero Attoru on April 18, 2012, 02:15:28 AM
Whats this NEW Fiber Optic UltraFILM blade?


Where did you see that?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Luna on April 18, 2012, 03:22:24 AM
Where did you see that?


I've seen it too.

http://www.ultrasabers.com/Luke-ANH-p/ufx-as-rots.htm (http://www.ultrasabers.com/Luke-ANH-p/ufx-as-rots.htm)

Second line in the the Technical Specs


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: ThreadJack on April 18, 2012, 03:27:04 AM
Umm, I believe they are referring to the blades we are already familiar with....


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Luna on April 18, 2012, 03:30:04 AM
Umm, I believe they are referring to the blades we are already familiar with....

I assume so, otherwise there would've maybe been an announcement or two....


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Zren Tobas on April 22, 2012, 07:55:38 PM
Just wondering, the Initiate 24 inchers for like Initiate sabers, are they good? Tempted to get like the whole collection. :P


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Luna on April 22, 2012, 08:31:12 PM
I love the Initiate blades for every hilt I have.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Ben_Skywalker on April 26, 2012, 04:18:28 AM
What is the difference exactly between the puckpuck and the resistor battery pack? And also what is the difference with the pointed tip and the rounded tip of a blade?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Ben_Skywalker on April 26, 2012, 06:24:49 AM
What is the lead time with the saber tips? It says increased time with the pointed tip and the rounded tip normal. Could someone please explain.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Xanedan on April 26, 2012, 07:52:18 AM
Ultra doesn't stock the pointed tips, so it'll take longer for your saber to ship if you request the pointed ones as he has to wait for them to arrive.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master Nero Attoru on April 26, 2012, 11:52:49 AM
What is the difference exactly between the puckpuck and the resistor battery pack? And also what is the difference with the pointed tip and the rounded tip of a blade?


Since the latter question was answered, I'll answer the buckpuck question by pointing you here:

http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=1581.0 (http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=1581.0)

Long story short, buckpuck provides a more efficient energy usage.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Ben_Skywalker on April 27, 2012, 12:13:25 AM
Awe ok, thank's guys! I appreciate you getting back with me.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Zren Tobas on April 28, 2012, 01:16:17 AM
Whats the best heavy blade for Fire Orange? Now seeing a good review I'm thinking of aiming for a Fire Orange Arbiter, a heavy blade if it'll work, and Obsidian with red av button and li-ions. Thanks for the info.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Luna on April 28, 2012, 01:38:02 AM
FO is best in mid grade by far, from what I've heard.

This is also stated in the original post....


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master Nero Attoru on April 28, 2012, 08:13:42 AM
FO is best in mid grade by far, from what I've heard.

This is also stated in the original post....

It's true, FO doesnt appear as bright as some of the others so midgrade will probably be the best choice.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Luna on April 28, 2012, 11:15:34 AM
Doesn't Ultraedge also wash out its color? At least that's what I heard.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master Nero Attoru on April 28, 2012, 06:28:48 PM
Doesn't Ultraedge also wash out its color? At least that's what I heard.

It kinda does, although the regular/Ultraedge comparison is a little bit subjective... some prefer one, while some swear by the other.  I personally wouldn't recommend FO in Ultraedge, but that's just my opinion.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Ben_Skywalker on April 29, 2012, 12:25:39 AM
I'm going to be buying the guardian hilt with guardian blue in the next few weeks. I want the brightest blade possible, and from what I understand the best blade for that would be the ultraegde. Is that correct?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master Nero Attoru on April 29, 2012, 04:13:56 AM
I'm going to be buying the guardian hilt with guardian blue in the next few weeks. I want the brightest blade possible, and from what I understand the best blade for that would be the ultraegde. Is that correct?

The Ultraedge isn't more or less bright than a regular blade, it just gives the blade itself a different look.  For a brighter blade, you want to make sure you get the lighter, mid-grade blades (either regular or UE).  The heavy grade blades are slightly less bright due to the fact that they have a thicker wall to them.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Ben_Skywalker on April 29, 2012, 07:11:04 AM
Awe ok, what do you like or recommend?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master Nero Attoru on April 29, 2012, 07:53:45 AM
Awe ok, what do you like or recommend?

My personal favorite (which I typically recommend for all colors) is regular midgrade.  It's lightweight, bright, and has none of the color altering sometimes associated with Ultraedge blades.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Ben_Skywalker on April 30, 2012, 01:15:37 AM
Cool, that's most likely what I'll go with then, thanks!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Ben_Skywalker on April 30, 2012, 09:07:33 AM
So since I am going to order the midgrade blade for my guardian with guardian blue, can I also order a ultraedge blade with the same order and just tell them in the comments that the other blade (ultraedge) is for the guardian and they will drill holes in the bottom of the blade so it will fit the guardian hilt? Hope that made sense.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Xanedan on April 30, 2012, 10:04:12 AM
It's not necessary to drill holes in the blade.  The retention screws press into the blade hard, but don't actually pierce it. 


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master Nero Attoru on April 30, 2012, 11:49:20 AM
It's not necessary to drill holes in the blade.  The retention screws press into the blade hard, but don't actually pierce it. 

Exactly.  No holes are drilled in the bottom, any blade you order will fit any Ultrasabers hilt (with the exception of the UltraFX models).


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Ben_Skywalker on April 30, 2012, 08:20:06 PM
Sweet, even better then!  :D


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Ben_Skywalker on May 02, 2012, 02:18:23 AM
What does quick disconnect mean and also what does RGB mean?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Luna on May 02, 2012, 02:30:13 AM
What does quick disconnect mean and also what does RGB mean?

Not related to the topic at all, very much threadjacking.

Quick disconnect means that the LED module is more easily removable and replaceable.

RGB means that the saber can change and mix colors (RGB stands for red, green, blue. One button for each of these three colors).


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Ben_Skywalker on May 02, 2012, 06:52:04 AM
I didn't know where else to ask the question, not that big of a deal.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master Nero Attoru on May 02, 2012, 12:08:12 PM
I didn't know where else to ask the question, not that big of a deal.

It's not a huge deal, but just keep in mind that you can always create your own thread if you have a question that you can't find an answer to.  There is plenty of good info here if you check the various boards, but nobody is gonna give you crap about starting a new topic ;)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Luna on May 02, 2012, 12:28:20 PM
I didn't know where else to ask the question, not that big of a deal.

That's why I didn't make a big deal, I just figured you didn't know where to ask it at so I mentioned it for future reference :)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Ben_Skywalker on May 04, 2012, 06:49:40 AM
What is the blade plug? I noticed that is now added in the options menu at the bottom. Costing $4.50 to add.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Infantrymyers on May 04, 2012, 07:19:38 AM
What is the blade plug? I noticed that is now added in the options menu at the bottom. Costing $4.50 to add.


i had the same question already posted, try using the search button as to keep the threads on topic.

http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=6625.0 (http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=6625.0)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Infantrymyers on May 04, 2012, 08:08:15 AM
i've got a question to add, i'm getting a Dark Initiate v3 with a crimson red blade for dueling in Ataru, and doing some spinning for fun what blade length and type should i get?
 i havent noticed anyone mentioning crimson red yet so im hoping im not double posting.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master Nero Attoru on May 04, 2012, 11:56:40 AM
i had the same question already posted, try using the search button as to keep the threads on topic.

[url]http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=6625.0[/url] ([url]http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=6625.0[/url])


Exactly.  Ben, PLEASE try to avoid derailing threads like this, you've done it several times in this topic alone.  Use the search feature, or start a new thread if you have a question.

i've got a question to add, i'm getting a Dark Initiate v3 with a crimson red blade for dueling in Ataru, and doing some spinning for fun what blade length and type should i get?
 i havent noticed anyone mentioning crimson red yet so im hoping im not double posting.


I generally prefer red in the regular midgrade blades, and that's not just because they're my preferred blade type... even Deep thinks so!  Seriously though, the midgrade blades give you a bit more brightness and better speed for Ataru.

Also, for blade length I'd say 32" might be a good choice - it's a good length for a light, quick blade (perfect for Ataru).


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Infantrymyers on May 04, 2012, 06:06:39 PM
Exactly.  Ben, PLEASE try to avoid derailing threads like this, you've done it several times in this topic alone.  Use the search feature, or start a new thread if you have a question.

I generally prefer red in the regular midgrade blades, and that's not just because they're my preferred blade type... even Deep thinks so!  Seriously though, the midgrade blades give you a bit more brightness and better speed for Ataru.

Also, for blade length I'd say 32" might be a good choice - it's a good length for a light, quick blade (perfect for Ataru).

ok we'll i've heard UE blades change color Hue's and stuff does that happen with red, green or VA?(the VA was for my gf):P thanks for the advice


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Luna on May 04, 2012, 06:16:48 PM
ok we'll i've heard UE blades change color Hue's and stuff does that happen with red, green or VA?(the VA was for my gf):P thanks for the advice

It makes them look more pastel.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Veldryne on May 04, 2012, 06:20:07 PM
because of the ultrafilm inside, it does even out the blade a bit however, and makes it look more "full"

i find the ultraedge blades are really really good for photos in low light or no light situations, ends up looking like the picture has been rotoscoped


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Infantrymyers on May 04, 2012, 06:26:32 PM
ok thanks for the answers


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Ben_Skywalker on May 05, 2012, 04:47:02 AM
Sorry Nero, never done any thread before, it's new to me. Still figuring this out.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master Nero Attoru on May 05, 2012, 05:52:20 AM
Sorry Nero, never done any thread before, it's new to me. Still figuring this out.

It's really not a big deal.  I just wanted to let you know that you have other options to obtain information - using the search function will give you a great deal of info, and starting a new thread is totally accepted.  We are more than happy to help you out, we just try to keep things halfway organized around here ;)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: TheHobbitofDune on May 05, 2012, 08:31:53 AM
It's really not a big deal.  I just wanted to let you know that you have other options to obtain information - using the search function will give you a great deal of info, and starting a new thread is totally accepted.  We are more than happy to help you out, we just try to keep things halfway organized around here ;)

Only halfway?  :P


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: ThreadJack on May 05, 2012, 02:49:54 PM
ok we'll i've heard UE blades change color Hue's and stuff does that happen with red, green or VA?(the VA was for my gf):P thanks for the advice

I personally think all three are nice in UE. I only notice a very slight difference.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: heartlessglint on May 10, 2012, 02:39:36 PM
Sorry if this has already been answered but just wanted to get a few peoples opinions.
I am about to order my first lightsaber  ;D. I am looking to get a standard Issue Battle Saber v3 with a violet amethyst LED. I am going to be using it for a lot of heavy dueling so am going to go with the HG or UEHG but am not sure what one would be better, and if it would change the hue of the LED or not.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master Nero Attoru on May 10, 2012, 02:57:14 PM
Sorry if this has already been answered but just wanted to get a few peoples opinions.
I am about to order my first lightsaber  ;D. I am looking to get a standard Issue Battle Saber v3 with a violet amethyst LED. I am going to be using it for a lot of heavy dueling so am going to go with the HG or UEHG but am not sure what one would be better, and if it would change the hue of the LED or not.

Personally I'd say regular HG, Violet Amethyst looks better in that type IMO.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Ezio on May 16, 2012, 09:06:39 PM
So if I want to make lightsaber tricks, and not a lot of combat (maybe some times but not heavy combat) I should get the Mid grade?  ???   ;D


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Xanedan on May 16, 2012, 09:09:45 PM
Definitely a personal choice, but I'd say mid grade is probably a much better starting point than heavy.  Heavies tend to balance sabers past the emitter too, which will effect your spinning a bit.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: captainOinge on May 18, 2012, 03:20:13 PM
I'm hoping someone can just give me their opinion on what size of blade and hilt to get. I'm a 5'3" girl with sort of small hands, so the Initiate series seems like a good option for me, however, I am unsure if the V2 would be still a little small vs the V3. Also, 24" seems like a better size for the blade for walking around (I don't want to hit everything/everyone when around a bunch of people), but I am worried it would look too small. :/

Please help. <3



Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Luna on May 18, 2012, 03:25:17 PM
I'm hoping someone can just give me their opinion on what size of blade and hilt to get. I'm a 5'3" girl with sort of small hands, so the Initiate series seems like a good option for me, however, I am unsure if the V2 would be still a little small vs the V3. Also, 24" seems like a better size for the blade for walking around (I don't want to hit everything/everyone when around a bunch of people), but I am worried it would look too small. :/

Please help. <3

I would recommend the V3. Now, for the blade length, I would recommend 32". That way if you want to go longer with it you can get a 36" or if you want a shorter blade you can go with 24". The 24" is a bit short if you don't know what to expect, but the 32" should be great :)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master Nero Attoru on May 18, 2012, 07:05:18 PM
I would recommend the V3. Now, for the blade length, I would recommend 32". That way if you want to go longer with it you can get a 36" or if you want a shorter blade you can go with 24". The 24" is a bit short if you don't know what to expect, but the 32" should be great :)

I second this.  The 32" is a pretty good in between size for just about anyone, and if you find that it's too long you can always cut it down!  My gf is 5'2" and it looks appropriate with her.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: KalamMekhar on June 14, 2012, 06:40:38 AM
Hello. I was wondering if anyone can tell me whether or not the pointed tip actually does anything for the saber. Does it make the blade brighter at all or give longer tracers when spinning or is it purely for show?

Thanks
Kalam


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Solinus on June 14, 2012, 08:25:41 AM
Hello. I was wondering if anyone can tell me whether or not the pointed tip actually does anything for the saber. Does it make the blade brighter at all or give longer tracers when spinning or is it purely for show?

Thanks
Kalam

As far as I know, it's purely for show.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: BenPass on June 14, 2012, 02:14:31 PM
Hello. I was wondering if anyone can tell me whether or not the pointed tip actually does anything for the saber. Does it make the blade brighter at all or give longer tracers when spinning or is it purely for show?

Thanks
Kalam

As far as I know, it's purely for show.

Solinus is right. It's just for show/preference. My brother has one and it's just for looks. He prefers it, but I don't find it makes a difference. Remember though that it WILL take longer for a saber with pointed tip to ship.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master VorNach on June 23, 2012, 04:31:32 AM
Hello. I was wondering if anyone can tell me whether or not the pointed tip actually does anything for the saber. Does it make the blade brighter at all or give longer tracers when spinning or is it purely for show?

And it hurts more if you get stabbed with one on an un-padded portion of your anatomy.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Eiyame on July 20, 2012, 01:47:13 AM
Alright, so hi I'm the elephant in the room here. And I need help picking a blade, for my LE DominixV2 http://www.ultrasabers.com/DominixV2-p/dominixv2le.htm (http://www.ultrasabers.com/DominixV2-p/dominixv2le.htm)

~I am a cosplayer

~I go to cons

~The saber will get get bumped, and dropped during the day, all props do (people will want to hold it and so on)

~I also do cosplay chess (that's live action chess game in costume with weapons) so it will take some beating. So I want my blade to be able to take some punishment with out the fear of breaking. I rather their weapon break before my saber does.

~I do a lot of traveling so it will get tossed in the back of my car

~I know I'm going to end up poking my friends with it, just because I can

~I don't LARP so its not going to be taking heavy hits all the time

~I am 5.4" and I have to carry this all day (12 hours or so) so I need a lighter blade

~I want the Bane's Heart color or the violet (haven't picked yet)


Any help would be great.

Thanks






Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Lord Cooler on July 20, 2012, 01:54:59 AM
Alright, so hi I'm the elephant in the room here. And I need help picking a blade, for my LE DominixV2 [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/DominixV2-p/dominixv2le.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/DominixV2-p/dominixv2le.htm[/url])

~I am a cosplayer

~I go to cons

~The saber will get get bumped, and dropped during the day, all props do (people will want to hold it and so on)

~I also do cosplay chess (that's live action chess game in costume with weapons) so it will take some beating. So I want my blade to be able to take some punishment with out the fear of breaking. I rather their weapon break before my saber does.

~I do a lot of traveling so it will get tossed in the back of my car

~I know I'm going to end up poking my friends with it, just because I can

~I don't LARP so its not going to be taking heavy hits all the time

~I am 5.4" and I have to carry this all day (12 hours or so) so I need a lighter blade

~I want the Bane's Heart color or the violet (haven't picked yet)


Any help would be great.

Thanks


Well, the Mid Grade can take a lot of punishment and is the lighter option, but you can't be TOO hard on it. I don't own any saber in Bane's Heart, but the Violet Amethyst IMO looks better in the standard Mid Grade over the Ultraedge.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Akos_Amun on July 20, 2012, 02:19:11 AM
Agreed. It is a redder hue and those tend to look their best in the standard (not the Ultra Edge) blades.

Midgrade will stand up to a lot of force, just not full on hard as you can possibly hit something type force. But if you're doing that or someone is trying to do that to you, I think we have left the realm of sanity.

I would also suggest given your height Eiyame, that you go with the 32" blade at the longest. That will be more comfortable for you to wield.

Also, if you're just going to be tossing the hilt around in your car I would avoid getting one of the higher end hilts and go with something in the initiate or aeon/dominix lines. They are sturdy, no-nonsense hilts without the frills that get in the way.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Eiyame on July 20, 2012, 03:15:32 AM
If I am going to hit someone that hard I'm going to pull out my fencing saber and kill their ass with that. (blades are cheaper to replace anyway) ;) or I'll just check them with the hilt.

I was planing on going with 1 Aeon and 1 Dominix (am only going to be getting one for PAX) since I am on a money crunch for this.

But how would I get a 32" blade on a Dominix hilt?

Thanks for your help guys. After I get the information about me I'll ask a few questions for my husband.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: BenPass on July 20, 2012, 03:16:51 AM
If I am going to hit someone that hard I'm going to pull out my fencing saber and kill their ass with that. (blades are cheaper to replace anyway) ;) or I'll just check them with the hilt.

I was planing on going with 1 Aeon and 1 Dominix (am only going to be getting one for PAX) since I am on a money crunch for this.

But how would I get a 32" blade on a Dominix hilt?

Thanks for your help guys. After I get the information about me I'll ask a few questions for my husband.

You just specify in the comments section of the order that you'd like them to cut the blade down to 32 inches


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Eiyame on July 20, 2012, 03:42:09 AM
That would make my life easier since all my live blades have to be between 31-32" or I can't even draw them. I hate being short....sorry "American Woman Average".

Anyway thanks for the help guys, now on to my husband

Same as me (cosplaying and such), but...

6.4" tall
is hard on metal blades
Even his "light taps" are heavy to me
He wants Sunrider's Destiny color

What would be his best blade.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Veldryne on July 20, 2012, 04:38:51 AM
Srd looks great in ultra edge heavy, but gets washed out a bit in daylight.

Though Id say maybe mid so he doesn't overpower you as much


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Eiyame on July 20, 2012, 05:16:15 AM
I'm not stupid enough to fight him. I know better. I just can't vouch for anyone else. So I am leaning towards a stronger blade.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: haldir on July 20, 2012, 05:57:33 AM
the mid grade and heavy grade are both fun but they do feel different.  usually i use heavy grade blades because they feel more solid when I duel with them.  the mid grades are lighter though so sometimes i like to switch up the feel of my saber and il use those.

while my mid grades have taken everything ive thrown at them so far, they have some bend to them.  i dont like using the mid grade against the heavy grade because the mid grade shows a lot of bend against the heavy.



Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master Nero Attoru on July 20, 2012, 12:58:59 PM
If I am going to hit someone that hard I'm going to pull out my fencing saber and kill their ass with that. (blades are cheaper to replace anyway) ;) or I'll just check them with the hilt.

I was planing on going with 1 Aeon and 1 Dominix (am only going to be getting one for PAX) since I am on a money crunch for this.

But how would I get a 32" blade on a Dominix hilt?

Thanks for your help guys. After I get the information about me I'll ask a few questions for my husband.

You get a point for being a fellow fencer.  Oh, and I shake my fist at you sabrists and your cheap blades :P  Foil blades are ridiculous...


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Eiyame on July 20, 2012, 09:38:36 PM
I don't like foil fencing on a side note. I rather fight saber or epee. I rather poke other things besides the chest.

But Idk if a mid a good idea for my husband though.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master Bluespike74 on July 21, 2012, 08:22:05 AM
@Eiyame:  I am coming late on this discussion but if you have a husband that is brutal strength, then go with the heavy grade blade.  I love my one mid grade blade but I use a great deal of force and I see the film inside crinkle with every swing that I take.  I have a War Glaive and Overlord as well as some PVC's that I build myself in Heavy Grade.  I don't see the wrinkles and it feels more solid to me.  On a side note:  I have 5 inch across palms and wear a size 13 ring.  Anytime a technique in my class is required to demonstrate on the big guy, my master immediately grabs me for more punishment. 

I say, get the Heavy Grade Blade.  I don't think you will ever be sorry that you did.  They also look good with the colors as well.  I just did a review of my Overlord in the video section with Guardian Blue, Sunrider's Destiny, and Blazing Red all in Heavy Grade near the end of the video.  Check it out to see how it looks.

Blue


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Eiyame on July 21, 2012, 09:35:56 AM
@Blue thanks for your help. He is going to go with a heavy blade


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Serotonin1363 on July 24, 2012, 03:55:44 AM
I'm working on getting a saber in Pyrestone Orange.  what's a good recommendation blade for it?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Luna on July 24, 2012, 04:01:44 AM
I'm working on getting a saber in Pyrestone Orange.  what's a good recommendation blade for it?

Normal mid grade or heavy grade. It is the general consensus (and my opinion) that all orange/red colors are best in mid. Of course some hold the opposite to be true, but not many.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: D.Masamune on August 17, 2012, 12:26:22 AM
awesome thanks :]


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: DarthGM on October 22, 2012, 02:36:18 PM
ARGH.

I should have read this before I ordered my FO Phantasm Initiate. 

Anyone wanna swap some 32" UE blades for some regular ones?
 ::)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: félix on November 08, 2012, 09:03:57 PM
Great work tanks  ;D


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: RLYHYPERGUY on November 08, 2012, 11:24:17 PM
ARGH.

I should have read this before I ordered my FO Phantasm Initiate. 

Anyone wanna swap some 32" UE blades for some regular ones?
 ::)

FO in UltraEdge is not bad by any means, it just happens to look slightly better in mid grade. You shouldn't have much to worry about.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Atherun on November 20, 2012, 12:33:34 PM
Hi all, I was wondering if anyone could help me. I'm planning to order a Bellicose with an Arctic Blue blade and was wondering which blade type people recommend? It'll be for display purposes only so doesn't need to be a Heavy Grade blade, so I was thinking of going with an Ultraedge blade for the fuller blade look.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: eerockk on November 20, 2012, 02:54:37 PM
Hi all, I was wondering if anyone could help me. I'm planning to order a Bellicose with an Arctic Blue blade and was wondering which blade type people recommend? It'll be for display purposes only so doesn't need to be a Heavy Grade blade, so I was thinking of going with an Ultraedge blade for the fuller blade look.

I have ultraedge blades for my Consular Green and it's ridiculously bright in the mid (not so bad in heavy either, but it is dimmer than the mid). From everything I've seen/read about, the ultraedge blades look the best on camera/video, and the normal blades look best in person. I would ask someone to verify this statement as I don't have my mid grade blade to compare it to the ultraedge blade yet.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Lord Cooler on November 20, 2012, 05:26:51 PM
I have ultraedge blades for my Consular Green and it's ridiculously bright in the mid (not so bad in heavy either, but it is dimmer than the mid). From everything I've seen/read about, the ultraedge blades look the best on camera/video, and the normal blades look best in person. I would ask someone to verify this statement as I don't have my mid grade blade to compare it to the ultraedge blade yet.

Yeah, pretty much this. UE tends to look better on cameras, but Midgrades are better in person. Most of the people I've shown my saber to agree with this.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: eerockk on November 20, 2012, 05:29:57 PM
Yeah, pretty much this. UE tends to look better on cameras, but Midgrades are better in person. Most of the people I've shown my saber to agree with this.

Thanks, Lord Cooler!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Darth Ivan on November 20, 2012, 05:59:40 PM
Same here! Got UE and mids and in person it's brighter than UE!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Atherun on November 20, 2012, 08:40:41 PM
Thanks for the advice all, what about the 'fullness' to the blade that the Ultraedge provides to Arctic blue? Looking at photos and reading other posts it seems the differences are quite minor and for Arctic blue all blades look amazing, just want my saber to look as amazing as possible  ;D


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: eerockk on November 20, 2012, 08:43:15 PM
Thanks for the advice all, what about the 'fullness' to the blade that the Ultraedge provides to Arctic blue? Looking at photos and reading other posts it seems the differences are quite minor and for Arctic blue all blades look amazing, just want my saber to look as amazing as possible  ;D

Is there a way that your budget could afford both types? I regret not getting the midgrade with my order just so I had one for comparison. I'll get one with my next order, but maybe you could learn from my mistake and just order both?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: SonOfMaul on December 19, 2012, 08:51:49 PM
how do you get 32 inch blades without buying a double bladed saber im interested in geting a second manticor and two 32 inch blades but there is not an option on the blades page


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: eerockk on December 19, 2012, 09:14:14 PM
how do you get 32 inch blades without buying a double bladed saber im interested in geting a second manticor and two 32 inch blades but there is not an option on the blades page

You have to order the 36" blade and in the order comments, ask them to trim the blade down to 32".


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: SonOfMaul on December 20, 2012, 04:05:48 AM
Thank you ;D


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Kenobi Rush on January 12, 2013, 10:22:19 PM
i got my bellicose 2day and i dueled and the tip flew off but we did not notice. we still dueled and  the end of my saber has a 1in crack on the top. we glued it on and taped it and it fell off again and now we cant find it. both of my sabers have wrinkles in the blade that looks tarrible. this is just from 1 10min duel. o they r both UEHG blades >:(


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Big Boss on January 12, 2013, 10:40:00 PM
i got my bellicose 2day and i dueled and the tip flew off but we did not notice. we still dueled and  the end of my saber has a 1in crack on the top. we glued it on and taped it and it fell off again and now we cant find it. both of my sabers have wrinkles in the blade that looks tarrible. this is just from 1 10min duel. o they r both UEHG blades >:(

What glue did you use? and how long did you let the glue set?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Kenobi Rush on January 13, 2013, 03:36:56 AM
super grollia glue. about 6 hours. i think it fell off because of the crack. can i send the blade back 4 a know 1. it is stupid the UEHG blade already broke when they say u can be like a juggernaut and it was just a normal duel. my blade holder came with a huge white scratch which sucks 2. and my overlords battery pack just broke because i have 2 charge the batteries at least once a day. the ion batterys suck and do not last long at all. US must think i am a millionaire that can spend $300 on a saber and buy tons stuff every month 2 repair my combat ready sabers. i still love them that's y my batterys keep going out. >:(


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Kenobi Rush on January 13, 2013, 03:38:07 AM
i have tried 2 email them but they have not responded :(


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Kenobi Rush on January 13, 2013, 03:47:52 AM
good new and bad news. i cant get another blade but they gave me 40% off a new blade.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Big Boss on January 13, 2013, 03:56:10 AM
6 hours is usually not enough even with gorilla glue. I wait a full day when re-gluing tips with gorilla glue just to be safe and have yet to have a tip come off after a repair. Also I recommend buying extra tips cause you never know when a blade can give out. I have 2 spare blade tips at all times. Also I know it can be a bit frustrating if they don't answer your email, but realize your not the only one sending them emails and it can take a few days for them to respond to you. Also the ions battery do have a decent run time, but take a bit to charge so it is recommend to have more that one pair for each saber.  I have three obsidian sabers and have two pairs of batteries for each saber.
 Also be careful when removeing your batteries, I have had my three sabers for over a year and have yet to break a battery pack. What are you using to remove the batteries?


Edit:

Just saw your recent post. See Ultra sabers came through and they are giving you 40% off a new blade. No other saber smith that I can think of would give you a offer like that.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Kenobi Rush on January 13, 2013, 04:04:55 AM
i very thin knife. i am very careful  but those things r 2 breakable. it is just really thin plastic.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Big Boss on January 13, 2013, 04:34:38 AM
i very thin knife. i am very careful  but those things r 2 breakable. it is just really thin plastic.


Hmm, a thin knife... that is likely the reason why it broke. The battery pack is like you said is a really thin piece of plastic and is very delicate. Most use a little piece of electric tape and wrap it around the battery pack to pull it out easier. I do the same thing except with string. I think I will actually make a tutorial tomorrow about how to remove your batteries from an ultrasaber since this isn't the first time a member has had this problem.

Example:

An alternate tape method: make a strip of duct tape by folding it in thirds.  Place it under both batteries when you put them in.  To remove the batteries, pull up on both ends at the same time; the batteries should just pop out.  This way there is no tape actually stuck to the batteries.

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Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Kenobi Rush on January 13, 2013, 04:54:16 AM
i wanted 2 get some spare blades since my UEHG blade broke. i put a 36in UEHG, 36in HG, 24in UEHG, 5 round tips, and a pointed tip to try it out and it was 135. i will be set 4 now but 1st i need 134. i have 0. i used all of my $ on my bellicose. my bellicose is going to be waiting for a long time to get another blade. :( it is weird i can get another saber without sound for some blades


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Nahal on January 13, 2013, 11:51:11 AM
super grollia glue. about 6 hours. i think it fell off because of the crack. can i send the blade back 4 a know 1. it is stupid the UEHG blade already broke when they say u can be like a juggernaut and it was just a normal duel. my blade holder came with a huge white scratch which sucks 2. and my overlords battery pack just broke because i have 2 charge the batteries at least once a day. the ion batterys suck and do not last long at all. US must think i am a millionaire that can spend $300 on a saber and buy tons stuff every month 2 repair my combat ready sabers. i still love them that's y my batterys keep going out. >:(

Hey bud.  I'm not getting on you so please don't take this the wrong way.  This is an expensive hobby.  No hobby comes without issues.  No piece of technology is perfect.  I'm a computer engineering major and that's the first thing we are meant to understand.  That being said, from my understandin of this hobby as a whole, 9 times ot of ten you will get a great hilt and blade and everything will function properly.  I did a lot of research before settling on ultrasabers.  Saberforge  has some cool hilts, but they are never perfect and the blades they use are trash.  Parks are gorgeous, but i'm not gonna duel with a 900-1500 dollar saber I waited 6 months to get.  Ultrasabers is in an absolute league of their own.  Their hilts decked out will never cost more than 600, are absolutely beautiful, and come with the most incredible customer service there is.  It takes an Email and a couple days.  Give them some time.  My first saber came with a faulty LED.  It's bad luck, but I know this company will take care of me.  My saber is being repaired as we speak.  These are passionate artists, and you will not be left unsatisfied.  Beyond that, buy a different brand of LiIon batteries.  Be patient when things go wrong.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Luna on January 13, 2013, 12:31:00 PM
Hey bud.  I'm not getting on you so please don't take this the wrong way.  This is an expensive hobby.  No hobby comes without issues.  No piece of technology is perfect.  I'm a computer engineering major and that's the first thing we are meant to understand.  That being said, from my understandin of this hobby as a whole, 9 times ot of ten you will get a great hilt and blade and everything will function properly.  I did a lot of research before settling on ultrasabers.  Saberforge  has some cool hilts, but they are never perfect and the blades they use are trash.  Parks are gorgeous, but i'm not gonna duel with a 900-1500 dollar saber I waited 6 months to get.  Ultrasabers is in an absolute league of their own.  Their hilts decked out will never cost more than 600, are absolutely beautiful, and come with the most incredible customer service there is.  It takes an Email and a couple days.  Give them some time.  My first saber came with a faulty LED.  It's bad luck, but I know this company will take care of me.  My saber is being repaired as we speak.  These are passionate artists, and you will not be left unsatisfied.  Beyond that, buy a different brand of LiIon batteries.  Be patient when things go wrong.

So much yes. Point for the great post.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Kenobi Rush on January 13, 2013, 04:57:52 PM
i know i love US but i did not know i would have to buy all of this extra stuff to keep my sabers running. yea it is expensive but worth it. sorry 4 all of the negative posts i am just really stressed.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Nahal on January 13, 2013, 11:24:22 PM
Even the best blade needs sharpenning from time to time.  ;] :-*


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: TheWerdna on January 20, 2013, 12:34:41 AM
I did actually read the post before buying my first blade, but am still a bit concerned if I made the right choice or not. I bought an Arctic Blue UEHG blade (I knew i needed the HG edge due to wanting to use the blade for sparing), so does anyone know if this was a good choice? Or should I have gone with the normal HG blade.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Luna on January 20, 2013, 12:36:13 AM
I did actually read the post before buying my first blade, but am still a bit concerned if I made the right choice or not. I bought an Arctic Blue UEHG blade (I knew i needed the HG edge due to wanting to use the blade for sparing), so does anyone know if this was a good choice? Or should I have gone with the normal HG blade.

My preference is always standard edge (mid or heavy), but I wouldn't say that was the wrong choice. AB goes well with either type. Also, be sure to post an acknowledgment in the rules thread 8)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: eerockk on January 20, 2013, 01:00:49 AM
I did actually read the post before buying my first blade, but am still a bit concerned if I made the right choice or not. I bought an Arctic Blue UEHG blade (I knew i needed the HG edge due to wanting to use the blade for sparing), so does anyone know if this was a good choice? Or should I have gone with the normal HG blade.


Check out my reviews in the Obsidian custom fonts threads if you want to see a UEHG blade in action in CG/AS and VA/AS.

CG:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTYfW5nlc_o#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTYfW5nlc_o#ws)

VA:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyo4_n_4aW4#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyo4_n_4aW4#ws)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Zren Tobas on January 20, 2013, 01:34:10 AM
I actually love Blazing Red with an Ultra Edge Heavy Grade blade. Gives it a nice like... Old MR FX saber look to it. Like picture the MR Vader saber. Kinda reminds me of that sort of.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Hack121 on January 30, 2013, 05:11:17 PM
Have you ever thought of doing a 16" ultra edge?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: eerockk on January 30, 2013, 05:54:10 PM
Have you ever thought of doing a 16" ultra edge?

These tend to be good for a saber pike, but would make a standard saber seem like a dagger. For bladework, the minimum legth should be 24" or the initiate sized blade. Even at that length, a saber seems like a shoto.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Faa-Yal Dragu on January 31, 2013, 12:41:09 PM
okies people, question time.

first off, big heavy grade fan. those things cannot be killed. and i duel alot.

however, i am moving soon, i will have no-one to duel with often, and i need a new blade as it is.
i have a consular green saber, and i will be getting a pointed tip on my next blade. i want one.

so:
how much punishment can a midgrade take? does it bend while spinning?
would the pointed tip look better with UE or MG? i want to drill a little hole in the mirror so the light goes through and illuminates the tip, yet only a small hole so i do not sacrifice much light.

answers, opinions and general ideas would be great. ta muchly!!!

BTW, point for the person who convinces me best! :)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: eerockk on January 31, 2013, 01:38:18 PM
Midgrades do flex a little when swung. It's not annoying, but it is noticable if you swing hard. In terms of brightness, the mids are only slightly brighter than the heavies from what I've noticed - I always use an UEHG in my videos, and from all accounts, the mids are durable.

Now, I asked the same question a few weeks into owning my saber, and the best advice I got came from Master VorNach. He recommended that I keep my heavy grade blade on for the heavier weight which he says is better for training. If you can learn to spin the heavy, imagine what you could do with a mid? I don't have anyone else here to duel with either (4 year olds don't really count in the grand scheme of things), yet I kept the heavy for that reason alone. After a few months of heeding the advice, I now find that the midgrades are too light - not flimsy or anything, but too light!

Like my master recommended, I say keep with the heavy to maintain your power and strength.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Luna on January 31, 2013, 04:29:04 PM
For the pointed tip, I recommend mid or standard HG.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Enzo on February 08, 2013, 04:55:12 AM
Hello Everyone. Going to purchase my first saber soon and was curious as to everyone's opinion on what blade type would look best with Violet Amethyst. I want a mid-grade blade, but does the Ultraedge or the standard midgrade look bettern in this color? I do like the look of the standard midgrade while the saber is powered down but obviously lit up is just as important if not more. Also which Violet does everyone prefer, the standard or the dark Violet? Thanks.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Luna on February 08, 2013, 05:28:56 AM
Hello Everyone. Going to purchase my first saber soon and was curious as to everyone's opinion on what blade type would look best with Violet Amethyst. I want a mid-grade blade, but does the Ultraedge or the standard midgrade look bettern in this color? I do like the look of the standard midgrade while the saber is powered down but obviously lit up is just as important if not more. Also which Violet does everyone prefer, the standard or the dark Violet? Thanks.

DVA is the best color, therefore it is the best purple. Anyway, I would go with standard mid, although it certainly doesn't look bad in UE. UE makes it look more blue and, to my eyes, less bright.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Enzo on February 08, 2013, 07:36:06 AM
I'm leaning towards the DVA over the VA. I'm just waiting for an answer as to whether or not the Dark War Glaive with sound will be back in stock anytime soon. It figures that the one I want isn't available.  :(  Hopefully soon. I emailed US but haven't received a response yet.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Selzen Ky-Knomi on February 09, 2013, 09:32:42 PM
I'd like to start by saying that I throughly love my sabers I got from US. My first blade was UEMG and it didn't last long. Top end shattered completely. My buddy and I duel way too hard for our own good, so I end up picking up a UEHG blade and after a couple months of serious dueling it too broke. I've seen how the HG blade looks in BR and personally it's really appealing. As far as structural integrity, is there any difference between HG and UEHG?

Thanks in advanced!


Title: Re: Re: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Ricos on February 09, 2013, 10:06:48 PM
As far as structural integrity, is there any difference between HG and UEHG?

Thanks in advanced!

As far as thickness no difference that I'm aware of. UEHG blades are white and the Standard HG are clear with the silver finish look from the blade film inside.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Luna on February 09, 2013, 11:52:26 PM
As far as thickness no difference that I'm aware of. UEHG blades are white and the Standard HG are clear with the silver finish look from the blade film inside.

Correct. The only difference is the color :)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Akos_Amun on February 12, 2013, 08:25:47 PM
I have never had a blade break from normal dueling, but I had a cousin who was a little rambunctious with his swings. His lack of control led to him slamming the tip into the pavement and the tip came off.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Kenobi Rush on February 14, 2013, 02:22:48 AM
i wanted 2 buy a HG and UEHG 24in blade. why r they not available


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Luna on February 14, 2013, 02:56:20 AM
i wanted 2 buy a HG and UEHG 24in blade. why r they not available

I can't remember a time when 24" UEHGs were available, although I never really paid much attention. I don't know why they aren't available, though... perhaps there isn't much demand for them.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Noriko on February 14, 2013, 09:53:21 PM
i wanted 2 buy a HG and UEHG 24in blade. why r they not available


In the discription of the midgrade initiate blade (http://www.ultrasabers.com/INIT-Blade-p/blades-init.htm (http://www.ultrasabers.com/INIT-Blade-p/blades-init.htm)) it says:

"Request Midgrade or Heavy Grade blade thickness in the comments field of the order (default is Midgrade)."

So the heavy grades seem to be available after all.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Lord Raven on March 20, 2013, 09:12:22 PM
I've only gotten mid-grade but i have heard they get scratches on them so I'm going to try an ultra edge next time.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: loosekannonn on April 24, 2013, 02:56:20 AM
I have searched but have not found the answer I'm looking for so.................
Has anyone actually measured the wall thickness of the different blades?
To say that Blade A's wall thickness is double that of Blade B is only helpful if you know the wall thickness of Blade B.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master Bluespike74 on April 24, 2013, 01:40:58 PM
The external diameter of all blades is 1".  The internal diameter of the MG and UE is 7/8" so that make the wall thickness 1/8".  The internal diameter of HG and UEHG is 3/4" so that makes the wall thickness 1/4" or 2/8".  Hope that helps answer your question.

Blue


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: loosekannonn on April 24, 2013, 02:28:45 PM
The external diameter of all blades is 1".  The internal diameter of the MG and UE is 7/8" so that make the wall thickness 1/8".  The internal diameter of HG and UEHG is 3/4" so that makes the wall thickness 1/4" or 2/8".  Hope that helps answer your question.

Blue


Thank you, that is exactly what I was looking for.
Now I cast and mold replicas and other things and I can get a "Water Clear" silicone rubber that I was actually considering filling the blade with...
Much like a Japanese blade this would yield a blade with a hard exterior with a soft but transparent core... this particular rubber is used for making the uh... "High End" life size sex dolls lol... so it's very resilient and bounces back very well.
I realize that this would add considerable weight to the blade but it just might add that extra level of toughness for dueling at Full Contact.

Any thoughts?

As the Blades are cheap enough, I might just give this a test, if it works out as I think it will, I might just send a sample to Ultrasabers so they can consider adding this as an option.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master Bluespike74 on April 24, 2013, 02:37:36 PM
Thank you, that is exactly what I was looking for.
Now I cast and mold replicas and other things and I can get a "Water Clear" silicone rubber that I was actually considering filling the blade with...
Much like a Japanese blade this would yield a blade with a hard exterior with a soft but transparent core... this particular rubber is used for making the uh... "High End" life size sex dolls lol... so it's very resilient and bounces back very well.
I realize that this would add considerable weight to the blade but it just might add that extra level of toughness for dueling at Full Contact.

Any thoughts?

As the Blades are cheap enough, I might just give this a test, if it works out as I think it will, I might just send a sample to Ultrasabers so they can consider adding this as an option.

I have gone full contact with the heavy grade blades and they stand up to bokkens quite well.  By willing the blade, you will might lose some of the light diffusing properties that make your saber very bright.  Unless you are wanting to break necks with the blade, I doubt you'll much more toughness than the current heavy grades give. 

It will be interesting to see what you develop though.  Keep us informed.

Blue


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: eerockk on April 24, 2013, 02:38:24 PM
Thank you, that is exactly what I was looking for.
Now I cast and mold replicas and other things and I can get a "Water Clear" silicone rubber that I was actually considering filling the blade with...
Much like a Japanese blade this would yield a blade with a hard exterior with a soft but transparent core... this particular rubber is used for making the uh... "High End" life size sex dolls lol... so it's very resilient and bounces back very well.
I realize that this would add considerable weight to the blade but it just might add that extra level of toughness for dueling at Full Contact.

Any thoughts?

As the Blades are cheap enough, I might just give this a test, if it works out as I think it will, I might just send a sample to Ultrasabers so they can consider adding this as an option.

If the light is able to pass unhindered through the silicone, you'll get added strength, weight, and durability (in theory). The silicone won't melt at the LED either, and if you leave the diffuser film in, it should be the same effect as a non-silicone-filled blade, only stronger. This sounds like a neat idea, and I for one would love to see the results.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Aurentis on April 24, 2013, 03:41:55 PM
My UEHG has seen some intense action, and it holds up wonderfully.  You really shouldn't need to fill the blade with anything, it's pretty solid as it is.
Also, it may add more weight than rigidity.  As a LARPer, I've seen a lot of players show up for their first events with PVC boffers that have injection foam or other substances filling the pipe; these weapons are INSANELY heavy for a boffer, and I've never seen the additional material contribute anything to weapon stiffness.  They also crack and break much more easily when they aren't allowed any "give" on impact.

That last part probably won't be an issue, should you pursue this.  My only concerns would be the additional weight, how much rigidity it adds (if it's too little, it may not offset the weight increase) and the possibility of dimming the light.  There's a reason underwater bright lights don't blind you.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Schtuperman on April 24, 2013, 07:15:21 PM
My prediction:  I think its going to be REALLY heavy, way to blade heavy for spinning, and very dim & unevenly lit...


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Darth Brayis on April 29, 2013, 12:33:32 PM
Thanks for the post. This is really helpful information.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: loosekannonn on May 01, 2013, 04:51:10 PM
My prediction:  I think its going to be REALLY heavy, way to blade heavy for spinning, and very dim & unevenly lit...

How do you know this?
I haven't said what specific brand or type of Silicone I may try this with;
so your assertions are based upon what?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: eerockk on May 01, 2013, 05:42:34 PM
How do you know this?
I haven't said what specific brand or type of Silicone I may try this with;
so your assertions are based upon what?

I think I can answer this. For the most part, I agree with the hypothesis to a point, but the importance of the points really depends on how you intend on using this blade.

A regular heavy grade adds a good deal of weight to the blade side for balance. I've accounted for the added weight when I learned how to spin a saber. I added a TCSS emitter (to the blade via retention screw just above my emitter), and the result was a saber that became slightly awkward to spin. Regardless of the material, the blade's extra weight will bring a heavier balance shift towards the blade end. This would only affect spinning the saber, but not the dueling aspect which is what I gathered the purpose was for doing this in the first place, so it's really a non-issue. Besides, you'll get used to where the weight is and be able to spin it after practice anyway.

As for the dimming aspect of the blade, it will to a degree. The silicone you use (along with the care you use to fill the blade to avoid imperfections in the medium), should determine that degree of dimming, and if it does allow light to freely pass through as you think, it will still be bright enough to be as effective as a hollow blade. The fact is, the blades were meant to have air as the medium, so, that will be the optimal medium. I'm interested to see how close you get. I hope it's negligible! I still think this is a neat idea, and really, there's only one way to know for sure! ;)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Schtuperman on May 02, 2013, 02:50:28 AM
Quote
How do you know this?
I haven't said what specific brand or type of Silicone I may try this with;
so your assertions are based upon what?

The only way to find out for sure is to actually do it, but I will stand by my prediction.  Why?  You are going to fill a 36" blade with silicon.  I don't know the opacity or weight of the the silicon, but let's say the silicon weighs in at only 1/2 ounce per inch.  That's more than a pound of extra weight...all in the blade.  When you try to stop a swing or spin, that extra pound of blade weight is certainly going to have a lot of extra inertia to overcome.  When you hit something, all that silicon is going to be imparting additional stresses on a blade normally filled with weightless air.  Even going from a midgrade to a heavy grade, there is a noticeable difference in saber weight and maneuverability. 

As to brightness, this of course depends on the transparency of the silicon, but it is unlikely to be as clear as air. or even water.   I would suggest a water test.  Keeping a blade tip down, fill it with clear tap water.  How heavy is the blade now?   Bring the ignited hilt to the water filled blade (keeping the blade down so no water gets in your saber of course - you don't need to actually insert it into the saber).  How well does the blade illuminate?  Is the silicon as transparent as clear water?

Though is isn't always apparent, even an air-filled blade isn't perfectly illuminated.  They are brightest at the base and the tip.  The light in a silicon filled blade will, in effect, be passing through a 36" thick gel filter.  Then there is the matter of injecting the silicon without any air bubbles, which would stand out as surely as crinkled film in an air-filled blade.  Each time the blade impacts, it will flex and the silicon will move.  Will it stay flexible and intact, or will it begin to crack and develop air pockets between the blade walls or within the gel itself?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Frozian on May 21, 2013, 07:55:40 PM
Is there alot of difference in the brightness beetween midgrade and heavygrade? and what do they weigh?
(im New)  ;D


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: haldir on May 23, 2013, 01:26:30 AM
the mids are brighter than the heavies, but there is not too much difference in brightness

i dunno on exact weight but the heavies are literally twice as heavy and that makes a big difference when swinging the saber

at first i preferred the heavy to the mid because they felt "better" on contact.... but now that im used to the more flexible mids i greatly prefer them because their lighter weight balances sooooo much better with the hilts


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Zren Tobas on June 04, 2013, 03:35:29 AM
Blazing Red doesn't really look half bad in an Ultra Edge Heavy Grade blade. My brother likes it. Still super bright too.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: DafyddRW on June 29, 2013, 11:38:12 AM
Whad should I pick? I like light blades, but I'm intending to do some REALLY HEAVY duelling with it.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Luna on July 02, 2013, 03:16:38 PM
Whad should I pick? I like light blades, but I'm intending to do some REALLY HEAVY duelling with it.

I duel heavily with midgrades and I've never had a problem.

Get both if you can, but if not, I would just go with midgrade.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: KARNAG on July 04, 2013, 04:42:55 AM
can anyone help me with my issue? the problem is, that inner layer of my Ultraedge heavy grade has some bubles, and when saber was activated ther was a like a spiral around my blade for few inches from the emmiter. ive try to fix it with finger but only make it worse, the layer now suffer from deformation and cant properly let light throug it to the top....


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: drtdgr2 on September 01, 2013, 03:31:11 PM
What kind would any of you recommend for a consular green blade? and how about violet amethyst? Thanks guys! ;D


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Luna on September 05, 2013, 03:14:05 AM
What kind would any of you recommend for a consular green blade? and how about violet amethyst? Thanks guys! ;D

CG looks great in any blade, but UE looks best to me.

VA can go either way, but personally I prefer all the reds, purples, and oranges in standard midgrade.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: drtdgr2 on September 05, 2013, 03:25:02 AM
CG looks great in any blade, but UE looks best to me.

VA can go either way, but personally I prefer all the reds, purples, and oranges in standard midgrade.

Okay thanks!  :)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: jasond22 on September 05, 2013, 03:32:16 AM
What kind would any of you recommend for a consular green blade?

If it's non-Flash-on-Clash CG, I just posted comparison pics for mid-grade...the standard blade I think is a little brighter than the Ultraedge, though the UE does have a nice, even look.
http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=16095.msg246016#msg246016 (http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=16095.msg246016#msg246016)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: drtdgr2 on September 05, 2013, 09:26:48 PM
If it's non-Flash-on-Clash CG, I just posted comparison pics for mid-grade...the standard blade I think is a little brighter than the Ultraedge, though the UE does have a nice, even look.
[url]http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=16095.msg246016#msg246016[/url] ([url]http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=16095.msg246016#msg246016[/url])


Oh that's super helpful! Point for the link! Thanks! Searched forever to find a picture like that!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: drtdgr2 on September 05, 2013, 09:28:02 PM
It appears you don't have any yet! Which do you prefer? Or would you rather stay gray?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: splint3r3d mind on September 08, 2013, 04:15:19 PM
Lots of great information. I love this forum. You all just keep giving me more saber ideas.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: dog on September 13, 2013, 09:47:28 AM
If it's non-Flash-on-Clash CG, I just posted comparison pics for mid-grade...the standard blade I think is a little brighter than the Ultraedge, though the UE does have a nice, even look.
[url]http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=16095.msg246016#msg246016[/url] ([url]http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=16095.msg246016#msg246016[/url])


great compare, crystal images. UEMG for sure :) all cashed up hoping for dotd


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Spike311 on September 15, 2013, 11:14:58 PM
So... One will not notice much, if any difference between the UEHG and the standard HG blade in GB? I'm going to get a heavy grade blade but want the brightest. Kinda sounds like it's a matter of opinion which is brighter in GB?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master Bluespike74 on September 15, 2013, 11:45:06 PM
So... One will not notice much, if any difference between the UEHG and the standard HG blade in GB? I'm going to get a heavy grade blade but want the brightest. Kinda sounds like it's a matter of opinion which is brighter in GB?

In heavy grade, UE is brighter than the standard when it comes to Guardian Blue.  In Standard Grade, there is a noticeable difference between UE and Mid grade


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Spike311 on September 16, 2013, 01:30:49 AM
Thank you for the reply. I will get the GB with an UEHG. Btw, Bluespike, I have found your video's very informative as well. Thanks again


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: jasond22 on September 16, 2013, 06:33:02 AM
It appears you don't have any yet! Which do you prefer? Or would you rather stay gray?

Sorry I missed your reply...Light side points please.  I had some, then someone must have given me some dark side, so I went to 0 again.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master Bluespike74 on September 16, 2013, 04:09:52 PM
Thank you for the reply. I will get the GB with an UEHG. Btw, Bluespike, I have found your video's very informative as well. Thanks again

You are very welcome.  I do my best to help whenever I can.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Bloodflower on September 28, 2013, 12:53:00 AM
Thanks to Deep for starting this thread and to everyone who commented in here. After a week of researching all types of companies I decided to go with Ultra Sabers. In all the reviews I've read and videos I've watched Ultra Saber buyers seem to be the most pleased with their purchase as well as the most willing to share their reviews with quality videos. Also Emery makes great videos and the Ultra Sabers website is by far the easiest to navigate and seems the most professional. All in all it made my decision easy so........ now that I'm done sucking up to everyone

I went with a Graflex SE with Arctic Blue(silver FOC) with an ultra edge midgrade blade.  I also went with bronze buttons. Hopefully it looks good. Everyone seems to go with gold but.....  Can't wait for it to arrive.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: bigbroluc on December 05, 2013, 06:34:43 AM
Thank you SO much for this Deep!  This is something I always try to explain when people are confused - though I can understand their confusion since there are quite a few different parameters for blade type.  I personally prefer the regulars - mid grade and heavy grade - to the Ultraedge.  Don't get me wrong the Ultraedge are very pretty blades, and the effect with the light extending throughout the blade is awesome, but I just prefer the simple unaltered light core in the regular blades. 

Lately I've been a midgrade guy - my very first Ultrasaber had a heavy grade which is great, but something that people don't realize is that the midgrade blades can withstand a TON of punishment.  I have had quite a few that have held up to all types of dueling.  To me, they're safer too - the hefty weight of a heavy grade blade can be dangerous without protective gear.  After all, the things are so damn tough that your head will crack before the saber will!  Finally, I prefer the rounded tips - simpler, cheaper, no lead time, and they make stabbing moves less painful for my poor friends ;)

yes allways good not to break friends rib cage


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Darth Larue on December 06, 2013, 12:32:10 AM
Hey man thanks would it be possible to get a 32 inch blade for my raven if so how would i do this? im guessing I would say i want a 32 inch ultraedge heavy grade blade in the comments section of my order? please reply if you know how to order one of these 32 inch blades cause im a shorter guy (5 foot 6 inches) and im used to a 30 inch blade from my force fx saber and i think the standard 36 inch blade would be to long for me.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        thanks,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        -Larue         


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: haldir on December 06, 2013, 01:05:59 AM
Hey man thanks would it be possible to get a 32 inch blade for my raven if so how would i do this? im guessing I would say i want a 32 inch ultraedge heavy grade blade in the comments section of my order? please reply if you know how to order one of these 32 inch blades cause im a shorter guy (5 foot 6 inches) and im used to a 30 inch blade from my force fx saber and i think the standard 36 inch blade would be to long for me.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        thanks,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        -Larue         
U got it. Just tell them what length to cut the blade in the comments box


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Wobbywoo on January 26, 2014, 12:07:42 PM
Thanks for that, Deep!
Just out of interest, what is the blade film made of?
Thanks,
Wobbywoo


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Loose Window on February 01, 2014, 02:21:27 AM
A question for Deep (or anyone else who has an opinion about this):

At this point I have acquired a variety of blades (UE, Standard Midgrade, Standard HG). All of my Midgrade blades (UE and Standard) except one, are so wrinkled inside that they no longer illuminate properly. I have dueled (moderately) with my son. Is this causing the damage, or am I overtightening the set screws? I have two ultrasabers--an overlord and a scorpion, and I have had this problem with both of them. The Heavygrade blades hold up just fine.

Thanks,

Master Loose Window


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master Bluespike74 on February 01, 2014, 02:39:30 PM
A question for Deep (or anyone else who has an opinion about this):

At this point I have acquired a variety of blades (UE, Standard Midgrade, Standard HG). All of my Midgrade blades (UE and Standard) except one, are so wrinkled inside that they no longer illuminate properly. I have dueled (moderately) with my son. Is this causing the damage, or am I overtightening the set screws? I have two ultrasabers--an overlord and a scorpion, and I have had this problem with both of them. The Heavygrade blades hold up just fine.

Thanks,

Master Loose Window

I have heard of this happening with more than just the mid grade blades and happens with normal use.  One trick that has been passed on to me is to hit it on a couch cushion or pillow and that should help to straighten it.  I have had blade wrinkling occur in my UEHG's and this has helped many times.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Loose Window on February 01, 2014, 06:34:00 PM
Thanks for the tip! I'll try it out!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: macewindu on February 16, 2014, 11:31:18 PM
thanks super useful. i might get the dominix LE V2 w/ heavy grade blade in violet for Bday


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: darkexcalibur01 on March 02, 2014, 04:48:55 AM
I new so I don't know anything about blade weights so how much does heavy grade weight for 24in


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Darth Obvious on March 23, 2014, 05:56:10 PM
I new so I don't know anything about blade weights so how much does heavy grade weight for 24in

My 24" UE heavy-grade weighs 181 grams (about 6.4 ounces).


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Fields on April 12, 2014, 07:07:55 AM
I'm getting ready to purchase my first UltraSaber, the Emerald Chosen One. Even after reading this thread, I'm still having trouble deciding between the ultraedge and midgrade.

I am planning on getting the option to change to any available color, but will mostly be using consular green, blazing red, and guardian blue. I don't plan to do much dueling, besides just playing around with the saber and keeping it displayed.

What would you recommend?

Thanks!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: sedstiskyfaller on April 12, 2014, 12:17:07 PM
I'm getting ready to purchase my first UltraSaber, the Emerald Chosen One. Even after reading this thread, I'm still having trouble deciding between the ultraedge and midgrade.

I am planning on getting the option to change to any available color, but will mostly be using consular green, blazing red, and guardian blue. I don't plan to do much dueling, besides just playing around with the saber and keeping it displayed.

What would you recommend?

Thanks!

It depends on if you want the "tube effect" with the standard blade or a full blade with the UE, clear tubing or white tubing. I personally prefer the UE blade because the color fills the blade and looks better IMO. People say that the standard blade gives more of a classic look like that from the original star wars trilogy, and the UE gives a look similar to that of the new trilogy.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: eerockk on April 12, 2014, 02:27:41 PM
I'm getting ready to purchase my first UltraSaber, the Emerald Chosen One. Even after reading this thread, I'm still having trouble deciding between the ultraedge and midgrade.

I am planning on getting the option to change to any available color, but will mostly be using consular green, blazing red, and guardian blue. I don't plan to do much dueling, besides just playing around with the saber and keeping it displayed.

What would you recommend?

Thanks!

If you're going to display it live and not really use it in combat, then I would suggest a 36" midgrade. The Ultraedge is my preference only if video or photography is the main medium where I think UE really fills out the blade for the camera. I love how MG/HG in non-UE look in person, though, as there is a shimmer or something to the light in the blade from the diffuser film, and it just looks amazing in person. I had to get both to accommodate the fact that I'd be filming and training with my sabers.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Fields on April 12, 2014, 06:02:22 PM
Thanks for the feedback guys! At this point, it looks like I can't go wrong with whichever blade type I choose. I think I'll buy one of each, lol! Start with the midgrade, and add an ultraedge.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: myz16 on April 20, 2014, 06:32:24 AM
which blade makes guardian blue looks the best?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: eerockk on April 20, 2014, 01:36:44 PM
which blade makes guardian blue looks the best?

I would say midgrade for in-person, and UE midgrade if you'll be taking pictures. The midgrades are the brightest blades offered by Ultrasabers.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master Bluespike74 on April 20, 2014, 03:04:47 PM
I would say midgrade for in-person, and UE midgrade if you'll be taking pictures. The midgrades are the brightest blades offered by Ultrasabers.

I agree with E to a point.  Guardian Blue looks best in Midgrade also during daylight hours.  At nighttime, UE is best.  If it is your very first blade, purchase the Midgrade.  I have yet to hear a person complain about Midgrade being bad for a first purchase.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Zren Tobas on April 23, 2014, 04:05:37 AM
Either regular blades for Arctic Blue for sure. You wont be disappointed at all. =] I'll try to get some pics of a regular Mid Grade blade with my Arctic Blue up sometime.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Muddler on April 24, 2014, 01:14:48 AM
I'm just a little confused...
In the product description it is said, that UE are the brightest blades. Now many people say, MG are the brightest...
Just got an Adegan Silver LED with a UE blade. When inserting the color disks, there's sometimes a significant loss of brightness (especially with blue and purple colors). Has anyone got experience with MG-Blades and the Adegan silver?
Which blade would you recommend for blue and purple colors?
Thanks in advance!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master Bluespike74 on April 24, 2014, 06:04:41 PM
I'm just a little confused...
In the product description it is said, that UE are the brightest blades. Now many people say, MG are the brightest...
Just got an Adegan Silver LED with a UE blade. When inserting the color disks, there's sometimes a significant loss of brightness (especially with blue and purple colors). Has anyone got experience with MG-Blades and the Adegan silver?
Which blade would you recommend for blue and purple colors?
Thanks in advance!

It is the blue disk.  It does not yield a good blue color when using AS.  The disks filter light therefore dimming the brightness of the blade.  Sometimes a little, sometime a lot.  The best disk to use with AS is Yellow.  There are many forums that attest to getting the best yellow is by using AS with a yellow disk or Lee Filter.

Now my general rule is this:  If it uses the color Red in any way, don't go Ultra Edge.  Blue, Green, White and any combination of the LED colors will do fine in Ultraedge. 

When it comes to filters or disks, you might want to think about using the clear polycarbonate found on Midgrade blades. 


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Muddler on April 26, 2014, 10:20:34 AM
Thanks a lot! That was really helpful!
Will be getting a MG-blade with my next saber!  ;D


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Lord Benzile on April 29, 2014, 03:04:10 AM



so under your midgrade blade opinion what midgrade is it about. Ultra edge mid or standard mid?

What blade washes out more during brighter indoor lighting conditions? a midgrade ultraeds or regular midgrade blade?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Darth Revenant on May 01, 2014, 09:05:26 PM
Hey guys. Im thinking about getting  the color Sun Riders Destiny but cant decide which blade type to get. I already know i want a heavy grade but can not decide whether to get ultraedge or not. Any advice?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: DArkonnen on May 02, 2014, 09:54:03 PM
Hey guys. Im thinking about getting  the color Sun Riders Destiny but cant decide which blade type to get. I already know i want a heavy grade but can not decide whether to get ultraedge or not. Any advice?

From the advice given in this thread, it seems that UltraEdge blades are best for photography. I own an UltraEdge that's used with an Arctic Blue LED. The white film inside the UE blade gives a fuller, more evenly-lit look but in person it does alter the color a bit. It ends up having a pastel shade to it, though it's still bright. Blues and greens tend to handle UE blades better than other colors. The benefit of the UltraEdge is more apparent on camera than in person. Pictures of my Arctic Blue UE blade look straight out of the movies. In person, anything with red in it will suffer somewhat because of the white blade film inside an UltraEdge. With a normal, non-UE blade, reds, purples, oranges and yellows will have a much truer hue and will still be very bright. If in doubt, normal midgrade blades are an excellent all-around choice for color, brightness and durability. Heavy grade blades will sacrifice a very small amount of brightness for durability compared to midgrades. I ordered a normal midgrade blade for my Chosen One SE in Blazing Red, based on Deep/Emory's advice and the observations given in this thread. Have fun with your saber when you get it.  :)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: sedstiskyfaller on May 03, 2014, 11:58:46 AM
I have been all UE since I got my first saber, but I have to admit that the standard MG blade looks great on my recent GB saber. I don't know if its the color I like in it or the classic look it brings to it. I'm now of the mind that some sabers look better in different blade types as well, not just colors. For example, I like the UE blade for my Bellicose, but will be sticking with the standard MG for my Shock LE.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: chimpyman on May 25, 2014, 09:37:56 PM
question.. how come on the buying section of the website there is no 32" blade? there is only 36 and 40 and 24.

i have a 36 inch blade UEHG in the grab bag i just bought (first US its awesome) and i was thinking about buying a dark prophecy thats blazing red, and midgrade. it doesnt say on the options whether its 32" or 36" or even 40?

since i wanted to one hand use this US i was thinking 32". but im really confused.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master Bluespike74 on May 26, 2014, 01:46:33 AM
question.. how come on the buying section of the website there is no 32" blade? there is only 36 and 40 and 24.

i have a 36 inch blade UEHG in the grab bag i just bought (first US its awesome) and i was thinking about buying a dark prophecy thats blazing red, and midgrade. it doesnt say on the options whether its 32" or 36" or even 40?

since i wanted to one hand use this US i was thinking 32". but im really confused.

It is not a super popular size outside of initiates and double blades.  Most companies I know will only offer those 3 sizes but you can order a 36" and put in the comments a request to have it shortened to 32".  This is what I do.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: crisjim4 on June 26, 2014, 10:55:38 AM
I'm thinking when I order in a few weeks I'll get UE mg but order heavy at a later date in case I can get some friends into dueling :)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: OISIN NOM on July 16, 2014, 09:32:40 AM
I am not sure about any other blade type, but all the youtube videos have told me that the ultrasabers heavy grade blade creates a more fuller color and far as I can tell I am not disappointed by the blades of the two sabers I own. I will continue to get the heavy grade till I see something otherwise to this effect.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: AnakinSkywalker94 on July 26, 2014, 11:58:32 PM
I'm a little confused but are the round tips the "stock" option or are the pointed tips the "stock" ?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Molina00 on July 27, 2014, 01:59:51 AM
I'm a little confused but are the round tips the "stock" option or are the pointed tips the "stock" ?

Rounded tips are standard.  The pointed tips are a $5 upgrade.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Spensus on July 30, 2014, 06:48:35 PM
Hey Deep do you think it would be possible to put more links to this thread on the site? I know it is in a few places, but I missed it for my first order and made the mistake of my first order being a BR and FO in UEHG on my Phantom Initiate V3, so my first impression of US was great hilts badly lit blades (which I now know is most definitely not the case) anyway great thread :) much appreciated.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Magic Peter on August 11, 2014, 06:47:15 AM
I've taken some up-close pictures of a mid grade and an ultra edge. Theyre a lot more accurate than any other comparison pictures I've seen.
http://s40.photobucket.com/user/Magic_Peter/media/imagejpg2_zpsdfacbc25.jpg.html?filters%5Buser%5D=141106681&filters%5Brecent%5D=1&sort=1&o=0 (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/Magic_Peter/media/imagejpg2_zpsdfacbc25.jpg.html?filters%5Buser%5D=141106681&filters%5Brecent%5D=1&sort=1&o=0)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: sedstiskyfaller on August 11, 2014, 12:26:39 PM
I've taken some up-close pictures of a mid grade and an ultra edge. Theyre a lot more accurate than any other comparison pictures I've seen.
[url]http://s40.photobucket.com/user/Magic_Peter/media/imagejpg2_zpsdfacbc25.jpg.html?filters%5Buser%5D=141106681&filters%5Brecent%5D=1&sort=1&o=0[/url] ([url]http://s40.photobucket.com/user/Magic_Peter/media/imagejpg2_zpsdfacbc25.jpg.html?filters%5Buser%5D=141106681&filters%5Brecent%5D=1&sort=1&o=0[/url])


Nice! These do seem to capture the distinction somewhat better. Point to you for posting it.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: FrozenShadowNinja on September 22, 2014, 11:35:19 AM
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 The other colors are relatively neutral as to blade type.

Actually, Blazing Red should generally stay on regular blades as well. Both Fire Orange and Blazing red look best in regular blades.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Pika on September 24, 2014, 01:05:40 PM
Heyas! I saw my first Ultrasabers at D*Con and they look so amazing, I must have one for myself, so that I, too, can become one with the Force by drunkenly brandishing a shiny lightsaber in a menacing manner at cons, ren faires, and other geeky establishments. However, I've got a few Qs first that hopefully you fine nerds can help with.

Stuff I know for sure:
I'm a 5'3" female, so a bit on the shrimpy side.
I want a purple blade ("BAMF" on the hilt optional), and I'm probably gonna go for DVA as opposed to VA.
I plan to do some moderate sparring but not actually fight anyone to the death.

Stuff I want to know:
I'm guessing a 32" blade would be a good length for me. The impression I get is that initiate is for kids, 36" is for adults, and upgraded initiate is for in-betweens and pint-sized adults. Is this more or less accurate?  I've got one of those cheap-o plastic retractable lightsabers at home that I've used as a costume prop, and it's got a 24" blade. When I play around with that one, the length is on the short side of comfortable for me, so I'm thinking I might just go with that, or possibly request a 28". Thoughts?

Blade type. I'm at a loss. Given the above info, what would you guys recommend? I'm keeping aesthetics in mind, but also wondering from a practicality standpoint. I'm leaning toward one of the heavy grade types, but I've also heard the heavy grades can get heavy enough to mess with the balance point of the Saber and make it difficult to wield. Is a 24" heavy grade a good balance for an initiate hilt? A regular hilt? How about a 28" one? And with DVA as a color, should I go with UA or regular?

TIA for any help and insight! May whichever side of the force you choose to dabble in be with you.



Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Choco on September 24, 2014, 01:32:28 PM
Pika

I think for your height 32" would be fine I stand at 5'10" and the the 36" blades are quite comfy for me for single bladed sabers.

As for blade type the mid-grades can withstand light to moderate dueling so as long as your not swinging at full strength with them then you don't need a heavy grade bade which you can always grab one later so you have one blade designated for your dueling and one for show if you wanted to

For DVA I like it on standard but it doesn't look bad with an UE blade either


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Pika on September 24, 2014, 05:05:03 PM
Thanks a ton for the input, choco. I'll probably go with the 32 inch.

That being said, I probably will end up doing  bit more than just light dueling, so the heavy grade may be best. Can anyone speak to the weight of the things? Would a 32 inch heavy grade blade completely mess up the balance of the saber with an initiate hilt? What about a regular hilt? I'm willing to sacrifice a bit of blade length for a well balanced saber.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Darth Obvious on September 24, 2014, 06:12:58 PM
It depends on what you mean by "balance."

We use heavy grade blades for sparring, but we only do the real sword styles (Lichtenauer, I.33, Tai Chi Chuan, etc.), which means we like the balance point to be well in front of the hand (usually around 4-6" from the hand). This also tends to put the blade's harmonic node (point of contact that transmits the least vibration down the blade) out to approximately the 2/3rds mark, which is good for delivering the maximum energy to the target, and transmitting the least amount of vibration to the hilt/hand.

Other people do "spinning," which as far as I can tell means twirling the saber around like a baton (not something we would ever do in real swordfighting, since it involves finger grips that would make your weapon easily disarmed). For this, they seem to prefer the balance point to be right at the hand, and the lighter blades seem to be better for this.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Dauntless Seven on September 24, 2014, 06:24:33 PM
Hi.  I have both Aeon and Initiates.  A heavy grade blade on an Initiate would need to have a heavier pommel on it to both lengthen and counterbalance the blade/hilt.  I suggest getting an Aeon or Dominix.  I have placed Shock pommels on all these hilts but at $30 each, the cost of the saber goes up.  There might be something else to choose like a Prophecy, which is good for both spinning and dueling.  Unless you are  experienced at dueling, the "balance" is not really a factor and you can easily adapt with whatever you choose for your starter saber.

If you want a HG blade, then for your height, the 32" should be good.  You will lose approx. 1.5" of the blade into the emitter.  I prefer the 36" but would only use on an Aeon but not the shorter Initiate.  I am about your height (5"3" ?).  Also your sparring partner should use a HG blade as the MG could get damaged from impact.   The Initiate comes with a 24" blade unless you upgrade.  This length is appropriate to hilt size. 

These are the approx. weights as provided at some time by another member (sorry, name unknown).

24"  UEHG = 181 g / 6.4 oz        32"  UEHG = 241 g / 8.5 oz        36"  UEHG = 253 g / 8.9 oz


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Darth Obvious on September 24, 2014, 06:39:52 PM
These are the approx. weights as provided at some time by another member (sorry, name unknown).

24"  UEHG = 181 g / 6.4 oz        32"  UEHG = 241 g / 8.5 oz        36"  UEHG = 253 g / 8.9 oz


I think those were the weights I posted on the blade weight thread, but I can't seem to find it now.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Dauntless Seven on September 24, 2014, 06:44:20 PM
Thanks Darth O.  I have used your blade weight info. many times and give you an appreciation point.  Glad that I wrote them down.   :)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Choco on September 24, 2014, 08:32:02 PM
Thanks a ton for the input, choco. I'll probably go with the 32 inch.

That being said, I probably will end up doing  bit more than just light dueling, so the heavy grade may be best. Can anyone speak to the weight of the things? Would a 32 inch heavy grade blade completely mess up the balance of the saber with an initiate hilt? What about a regular hilt? I'm willing to sacrifice a bit of blade length for a well balanced saber.

I personally don't own any 32's however I do notice a considerable difference in overall weight of the saber and the change in balance point when I have a heavy grade blade on instead of a medium. On my sabers the heavy's balance point sits about an inch on the blade past the emitter so not too bad depending on whatever style sword play your planning on doing.

Many people do underestimate just how much punishment the blades can take especially the mids. From the videos I've seen they can take quite a bit of force before showing physical damage so they should be fine for light-moderate dueling. I do agree both sabers should be heavies if your planning on playing a bit rougher with em


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Pika on September 24, 2014, 09:32:10 PM
You all are fantastic. Thanks again so much!

Just ooonnneeee more question for y'all. If I go for DVA and heavy grade, would you all recommend the ultra edge or the regular heavy? I've heard the regular heavy tends to disperse the light better than the regular mid-grade, so I may not need the ultra edge. I've also heard that dings, dents, and other minor damage marks tend to be way more noticeable on the ultra-edge blades. Since DVA has got more blue in it than regular VA, I'm not too worried about getting a pink-looking saber, but I do want it to look cool IRL and in pics - and while I want it to be bright, I also don't want it to look like a glass tube filled with light. I've found some info on DV, but not much on DVA specifically. Once again, thanks in advance!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Dauntless Seven on September 25, 2014, 04:43:22 PM
Hi again.  There is no near perfect hilt, blade or color if a person tends to become too focused on the finer details.  I recognize that you have this picture of what it should look like and whatnot, but it takes away from the adventure and the fun factor.  And remember that this saber will most likely be the first of a few or many.  Why don't you think about getting a staff so that you can have a saber for another to use.  You will have the option of choosing two different blade colors and you could even request a blade in UE and one in Standard (both in MG or HG).  Also the cost of the staff is less then two individually.  You may like the v2's as the width is a bit narrower for your smaller hands.  I assume that you are getting a stunt saber.  If not, then would suggest the v3 hilts to fit sound board options.

I agree that the MG blades are quite durable.  HG blades are mainly used by those that are skilled in sparring and use protective gear.  Every one has their preference though.  Whether one likes or dislikes the light dispersion effect with the different blades and colors is generally based on personal choice.  DVA may be more appealing/brighter in a Standard blade (silver film) but photographs better with the UE.  Using a HG will soften the color but usually not that much.  Some say that the Standard blade gives an Old Republic look, while the Ultra Edge gives a more Star Wars neon effect.  I like the Standard silvery blade for show and display and would use the UE for sparring and dimmer light conditions.  The blade scuff marks can be removed with a Mr. Clean cleaning sponge unless it is a significant demarcation/dings.    :)



Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Pika on September 27, 2014, 11:05:12 PM
Thanks again, you guys! I ended up going ahead with the UA mid-grade, since all available accounts seem to be that those are just fine for garden variety dueling. I definitely wanted sound and flash on clash, so I ended up going with Aeon LE v3. Plus it seemed perfect for a purple blade in that whole "pimp my lightsaber" sort of way. AND it was the deal of the day when I went to place my order, which seemed like the universe sort of giving its blessing. Long story short - I can't wait to get my paws on it. And if I do decide I need a heavy-ass blade because a couple of Sith who are up to no good start making trouble in my neighborhood, I can always just order a heavy grade blade and switch it out.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Dauntless Seven on September 27, 2014, 11:45:19 PM
Pika... Congratulations on your first "pimped out" purchase.  The Aeon was mine as well.  The purple color will look great with the UEMG blade.  The trick is to put out a plate of cookies (double chocolate will do it every time), then womp the daylights out of those sithies while they are greedily distracted. Can't even call out for mercy as their mouth will be full.  A heavy grade blade will finish them off and then your fun is over.  Better to use a mid-grade to slowly yet painfully (bruises allowed) show them who is the neighborhood alpha dog bully .... err I mean light side guardian protector and peacekeeper.  An Aeon club point for you.   ;D


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Dauntless Seven on September 28, 2014, 08:28:14 AM
Attention all Siths... please accept my humblest apologizes for my brief gleeful moment of losing it.  Promoting violence is not a good thing!  Free unlimited yummy cookies offered for the next week in a Council approved safe zone.  They said no to milk and massages but I tried.   :-[


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Zren Tobas on October 11, 2014, 05:26:03 AM
Thoughts on Sun Rider's Destiny with Ultra Edge Heavy Grade blade? Does the green come out more or stay the same look with like a clear blade? Thinking about getting me a Dominix V3 LE in Sun Rider's Destiny with an Ultra Edge Heavy Grade blade. Pics possibly? =] I just really love and miss having that color. (Don't ask).


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master Bluespike74 on October 11, 2014, 06:45:03 PM
Thoughts on Sun Rider's Destiny with Ultra Edge Heavy Grade blade? Does the green come out more or stay the same look with like a clear blade? Thinking about getting me a Dominix V3 LE in Sun Rider's Destiny with an Ultra Edge Heavy Grade blade. Pics possibly? =] I just really love and miss having that color. (Don't ask).

My SRD does not look good in UE of any type.  I would stick with clear blades for it. 


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: JediGuardianSaber on December 03, 2014, 04:04:20 AM
Personally, I think that I agree with Deep that, with GB, the UEHG is perfect because it can take a beating and still look great. Plus, the weight of a heavier blade counters the weight of the Guardian Hilt and allows for powerful Form V strikes.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Zren Tobas on December 05, 2014, 07:25:56 PM
I just got a first Emerald Green saber with an Ultra Edge Heavy Grade blade. You guys think I made a good choice on the combo? Its not in yet but you get what I mean.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: neekssss on December 17, 2014, 05:03:02 AM
Thanks Deep!  I'll point people here too.

My preferences...

Round tips.  Always.
Heavy Grade, no matter what.  It doesn't detract from the brightness, unless you're scientifically measuring it in infinitesimal amounts.  It also ensures that you can only break a blade if you're specifically trying to break said blade.  And sometimes not even then.

I started with UEHG blades on all my sabers, but recently find myself leaning towards regular HG blades.  Fire Orange should almost always be on regular, and should only be combined with UE if you want an almost yellow effect on-camera.  Arctic Blue, on the other hand, should be on an UE blade.  The other colors are relatively neutral as to blade type.
I agree, HG have (practically) the same brightness as the MGs, and they have double the strength for dueling if you were looking to do that.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Celtic JediAmy on December 19, 2014, 02:53:08 AM
I think I'm a Midgrade person  I go by weight so for my 5'8 and 150 lbs  frame I will go MG and if the colors are brighter in  MG  then that's were I'm going with my sabers .  :) and round tip person always as well .


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: wiseflea on December 30, 2014, 05:12:23 PM
I'm completely new to this, and reading everyone's personal opinion of blade types has been incredibly useful. Thanks everyone


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Taksas101 on January 07, 2015, 03:46:52 AM
I would like to know what saber is the best starting saber and blade type for dueling.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Cloudswimmer on January 21, 2015, 09:08:07 AM
Kinda off topic but I have 2 heavy grades and when I duel they get all marked up. Is there any way to clean the blades?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Zren Tobas on January 24, 2015, 02:21:22 AM
So Sun Rider's Destiny in an Ultra Edge blade, anyone else ever notice that the teal comes out more in that blade? I think its kinda cool. I miss my Sun Rider's Destiny blade. Might have to get me another one maybe a regular Prophecy, silver hilt for once. Anyone got any pics of that set up? Just a Sun Rider's Destiny blade in either Ultra Edge blade


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Nim927 on January 25, 2015, 01:14:08 PM
Hello All,

Does anyone know how Arctic Blue looks in Heavy Grade?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Racona Nova on January 25, 2015, 07:45:17 PM
Normal Heavy Grade or the UltraEdge (UE) version? I have both types and would tend to say that it looks better in UltraEdge than in normal Heavy Grade blades.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Nim927 on January 25, 2015, 11:03:24 PM
Yes, normal Heavy Grade. Okay, I purchased my Arctic Blue Bellicose in normal Heavy Grade. I have a Scorpion in Sunrider's Destiny. I was thinking about swapping the blades out to see the difference between the brightness in those 2 different colors in UltraEdge Heavy Grade and normal Heavy Grade. I saw where Deep said, Sunrider's Destiny looks decent in Ultra Edge Heavy Grade. I was wondering would Sunrider's Destiny look better in Heavy Grade and Arctic Blue in UltraEdge Heavy Grade. I will find out when I receive my Bellicose. Thanks Buddy!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Noctis on February 12, 2015, 04:51:31 AM
So, do people often buy extra blades and "swap" them out or do you just buy a saber to use exclusively for dueling? 

Just got my Bellicose in the mail today and I chose the UE blade.  My raffle win Sentinel has the same blade.  The Arctic Blue looks unreal, like it could just burn your hand off if you touched it.  I am so in love with it.  The husband I dueled with them in the yard and although we went rather light, the blades are shockingly strong.  I'm thinking I might order another Sentinel (LOVE that hilt!) in Violet Amethyst with the UEHG.  Or maybe I'll just buy an UEHG for my Bellicose.   Good idea?  Bad idea? 

I mean, seems a bit silly just to buy the blade when I could use the excuse to buy another saber.  ;)   


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Drahcir on February 12, 2015, 05:09:34 AM
I own more blades than I do sabers - I just switch between the heavy grades and the midgrades based on what I'm doing.
You can do some good dueling with the midgrades, just no power strikes.

That being said, just buy another saber.
The VA and DVA are great colors.
 ;)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Racona Nova on February 12, 2015, 06:18:16 PM
It's quite common to have more blades than sabers ;) IIn the rare case of breaking a blade you always have backups.

I own two blades of each type and thickness for my 4 sabers (2 of them connecting into a Phantasm v3), so I can always choose the blade according to what I'm doing, like Drahcir said.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Zren Tobas on February 14, 2015, 09:57:24 PM
So I just ordered a regular Shock in Blazing Red with an Ultra Edge Heavy Grade blade, I'll post pics of just the blade for you guys once it comes in. Blazing Red really doesn't look half bad in that blade. Has kind of a PT look to the glow I think. Had one before so


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Noctis on February 16, 2015, 07:53:24 PM
This has probably been asked and answered within this thread, but watch me ask again.  ;)

When ordering a new blade for your saber (I'm getting a couple of UEHGs), is the standard length assumed to be 32 inches unless otherwise specified or do you need to specify length?  


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Dauntless Seven on February 16, 2015, 08:11:06 PM
Hi Jedi Nox.  The standard blade length is 36".  You can request a free cut down to 32" in the order comments section after purchasing the 36".  :)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Noctis on February 16, 2015, 08:13:01 PM
Hey, thanks for that!  That's exactly what I did.  :)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: BladeCrossEXE on March 07, 2015, 02:58:34 AM
In my personal experience, I wouldn't reccomend a 40 inch blade, or pointed tip for dueling, but they're great for photo ops.

So far I've knocked a pointed tip off my blades 3 times. I was able to put two of them back on with some gorilla super glue, the third broke part of the blade, so I cut that blade down and made daggers.

For the 40 Inch blade, i'd only suggest it for a handle with a deep socket. It works well on my Dark Prophecy, though slightly unbalanced, but it does NOT go well with a Catalyst, which isn't a popular dueling saber anyway (it's the one I broke my blade on. It has only one screw and a shallow socket, so it doesn't absorb impacts or hold the blade as well, and the 40 inch blade makes it VERY top heavy and unwieldly.) But for a saber like the Bane (I assume, I haven't actually seen it yet), or maybe an Initiate staff with one blade, the 40 Inch would be good in terms of balance. I think it'd probably work well in a Bellicose too. So, for photo ops, I'd say pointed tip. For heavy dueling, rounded tip.

But these are just my opinions.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Noobicus Maximus on March 14, 2015, 03:32:22 AM
Hello!

I was looking to get a saber or two from here.... actually more like 6 but one step at a time.   I really want to get a blade that will look yellow, but I don't see a yellow option any more? does the orange blades look yellow?  and would they look best with the ultra edge blade or the normal midgrade.  I have no desire to fight with this so I won't be needing a highgrade blade at this time. 

I was also going to get a midgrade C-Blue saber,   what would look best for that ultra edge? or normal midgrade.

From what i have read with the yellow  it would be normal, and for C-blue it would be ultra, that seem to be the concensus?

Thanks in advance.



Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Racona Nova on March 14, 2015, 06:57:51 PM
I think you refer to Sentinel Yellow? It's a forum colour, so there's a special order procedure for those:
1. Choose a premium colour (those with an additional $5 charge like Arctic Blue)
2. Upon checkout, write in the Order comments that you want Sentinel Yellow instead of the colour you've chosen.

That's for all forum colours - which are Dark Amethyst Violet, Hot Pink, Emerald Green, Sentinel Yellow, Bane's Heart, and Pyrestone Orange.
As for blades, I'd forward that question to SY owners :D But I also remember something that SY looks better in normal rather than UE blades.

And last but not least: C-Blue doesn't exist, either Consular Green or Guardian Blue, but both look great in either blade type :D


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Dauntless Seven on March 14, 2015, 07:30:30 PM
If I recall correctly, there is an additional $5.00 charge for a total of $10.00 to order a Forum color.  Need to purchase 5 Requisition charges in Parts & Supplies and tell US in comments box what they are for.  Or as Racona has suggested recently, to get an Emerald Driver for loads of colors.  :)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Racona Nova on March 14, 2015, 07:36:23 PM
Thanks for the reminder, D7 :) Forgot the Requisition Charges...but I don't know if they're necessary anymore, I didn't add them when I ordered and still got my forum colour :D

And...where did I mention the Emerald Driver? I don't see such a line in my post ;D But you're right, of course, Emerald is definitely a great choice when you can afford it!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Dauntless Seven on March 14, 2015, 09:11:52 PM
RacNo... does bubblegum refresh your memory or are you in a lovely pink haze.  Okay, so sue me for post hopping/swapping.  Would be nice if the 2nd extra charge no longer exists.   I wish that I could trust my computer skills (says ashamedly) to get the Emerald.  Will save it for my ultimate saber.  ;D


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Racona Nova on March 15, 2015, 04:38:28 PM
Rather the first one, I hate pink ;D And I'm sure your skills are sufficient for Emerald - if you can use the Obsidian launcher for sound changes, then it should be no problem for you to play with the Emerald features :D


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Dauntless Seven on March 15, 2015, 04:59:58 PM
You are assuming way too much !  Using Obsidian as from US store build.  Can be kinda funny when a strike is made and FoC comes later.  Have you seen me post any photos.  It's tough being a dinosaur and I just got my computer upgraded to a gearless system.  :-[


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Racona Nova on March 15, 2015, 06:55:56 PM
Well, now that you mention that...I really haven't seen any photos :D But I can imagine how you feel, having the same problems with some of my friends and connections, too ;) Anyway, I always tend to say that there's nothing one couldn't learn :D It may take some time, but it's possible...just as I experienced after starting my lightsaber studies ;D


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Matthew32003 on March 21, 2015, 05:40:46 PM
What would be the best blade for cosplaying and LARPing? (Yes, I'm a nerd.) I'm thinking about getting a grab bag for my first saber, but I don't know what blade type to get. Help!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Elhiniss on March 23, 2015, 08:45:55 AM
I think it's depend to the type of caracter you want to play : sith, jedi, renegate...
It depend to the type of saber you want to have too! (one hand, two hand, double saber, tonfa, staff...)

I'm preparing a cosplay for the next winter (winter is coming ;D) and I want to incarnate a Sith. I have a guardian and an initiate.
I think to upgrade the initiate with a 32'' UE midgrade blade (for maximum bright and good resistance for duelling) but I can't find on the Ultrasaber website (websith  ;D) the 32" blades.
I only see the 36" and the 40".

Do I have to make a specific request with my order?





Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Dauntless Seven on March 23, 2015, 03:41:12 PM
Matthew32003.  Suggest getting a 32" MG blade for your grab bag.  Unless you are choosing the LED color, it will be a surprise of both saber and blade color.  Generally the standard silver foil blades look best for display and provide a narrower shaft of color for an Old Republic look.  The ultra edge whiter foil photographs better and fills out the blade more with a neon like light.  Depending upon the blade color, can appear more pastel and creamy.  UE shows up better in dimmer lighting.  Suggest doing a cost comparison with the lower end sabers as they come with the blade and often are offered as a stunt saber in the DotD sales.  :)

Elhiniss.  The 36" blade is the standard blade length so that is what you would order.  Request a change to a 32" blade in the order comments section.   :)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Elhiniss on March 24, 2015, 12:47:56 PM
Thx Dauntless Seven!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: merdon1399 on May 04, 2015, 08:50:08 PM
i want to get an Archon v2 in Consular Green. Is that color better in the MG or the UE?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Molina00 on May 04, 2015, 08:53:37 PM
It looks really good in either one, but I would say probably better in UE.  Just personal opinion though. 


Title: Re:
Post by: Spizro on May 08, 2015, 02:53:42 AM
Hey guys, I know this has been touched on before. Yes I just read this entire forum, but I'm gonna ask it again. I'm looking at sunrider's destiny, however I'm wanting to really show the teal color of it. Is UE or Standard better for this? I've been searching the Web and forum and no one seems to answer that. I've heard it looks too green with the UE. Since pictures or video can't really capture color right hopefully someone can tell me which gives a truer teal color. I know I could just buy two blades but I'm hoping to avoid that as this will be my shoto saber. Thank you for your responses and sorry for asking this question again. :)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Dauntless Seven on May 08, 2015, 03:56:36 AM
Hi Spizro.  My vote is for the UEMG blade.  Has both a full warmer colored brighter blade and a clear display of the SRD cyan color.  Teal maybe a little more on the bluish side.  The cyan I received is a beautiful color.  You might be able to request a more blue-teal tint.  Would be a good blade to use outside and in dimmer lighting.  Also best for photography.  More SW movie and modern Jedi like.

Just tried with the standard silver foil MG.  Slightly duller and narrower shaft of cooler color down blade.  Almost lightly grainy textured looking blade.  Would look appropriate with a weathered saber or a saber that is meant to look older and worn and even weapon like.  It might be helpful to share what saber you are going to be using.  Mine is a dark v4 Initiate with windows and AB flash.  I would use both blades, but for this saber as it stands, the UE looks the best.  With some customization, that could change.  Hope this helps.  :)


Title: Re:
Post by: Spizro on May 08, 2015, 06:07:32 AM
Well actually I'll be buying it in the same exact setup as you dark initiate v4! And thank you this is by far the best thought out and detailed answer I have received! And sorry, I meant cyan I don't know why I said teal. Alright, looks like it's time to pull the trigger on this new saber! Thanks so much Dauntless!


Title: Re:
Post by: Spizro on May 08, 2015, 06:11:34 AM
Too bad no one makes a Saber blade in black like in the force unleashed. My wouldn't  that be super sexy?


Title: Re:
Post by: BladeCrossEXE on May 08, 2015, 06:35:31 PM
Too bad no one makes a Saber blade in black like in the force unleashed. My wouldn't  that be super sexy?

Oh, people have. My friend made a mockup by just laying some electrical tape over a standard blade and using a while LED.


Title: Re:
Post by: Spizro on May 14, 2015, 10:34:30 AM
Just got in my new Saber with the SRD on an Ultra Edge and I have to say the color is absolutely amazing and stunning! So happy I chose this color and thank you Dauntless Seven for the help. I threw on my miggrade blade from my red saber and the Ultra Edge does look much, much better!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Zren Tobas on May 24, 2015, 03:29:54 AM
I had a Sun Rider's Destiny Dominix V2 LE saber with the Ultra Edge Heavy Grade blade and I liked it in that set up more and more, a friend needed a couple sabers for her kids so I said why not. I kinda do miss that saber though :P The teal was kind of a cool color. I might get another one soon


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Fallenreality on May 31, 2015, 06:04:05 PM
I'm currently working out what I want for my first saber and I'm leaning towards a Dark Standard Issue Staff with Adegan Silver and the color disks

I know the post says that Ultra Edge looks great with the base silver. Which blade type is best for it with the color disks?

I'll be buying a set of both mid and heavy grade of whichever I decide to get, so that shouldn't matter too much


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Choco on June 05, 2015, 02:00:28 PM
I'm currently working out what I want for my first saber and I'm leaning towards a Dark Standard Issue Staff with Adegan Silver and the color disks

I know the post says that Ultra Edge looks great with the base silver. Which blade type is best for it with the color disks?

I'll be buying a set of both mid and heavy grade of whichever I decide to get, so that shouldn't matter too much

depends on personal preference but for a Dark standard issue (I have one in BR) I prefer the regular blade on it over UE for the Blazing red color

Unfortunately pictures don't do it much justice it's something you got to see in person but again mostly a personal preference thing here but both are equally strong blades material wise


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Dcast59 on June 10, 2015, 09:29:30 PM
I'm soon to be getting a saber just need a little information on coloration. I have seen my friends Emerald two color (red and Blue) UEHG in Blue, Purple, Pink and Red.

Here are my opinions ---

Blue: looks amazing very crisp (light fills up the whole blade)
Purple: the hue looks much too blue for my taste (light fills up most of the blade but the plastic walls are visible inside)
Pink: this color pops out at you and is extremely bright (light fills up the whole blade)
Red: looks dim (an inner and outer wall of light/plastic are very visible inside the blade)

After seeing this display I have two questions

1.  Will a midgrade brigthen up the red saber and eliminate the two walls of light effect that the UEHG gives it or will this color just always give way to two visible plastic tubes inside regardless of the blade type?

2. How deep of a green is consular green I understand that pictures fail to do the blades justice and a first hand account is best in my opinion!

Thats all thanks so much guys !


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Groovidad on June 10, 2015, 10:49:58 PM
I'm soon to be getting a saber just need a little information on coloration. I have seen my friends Emerald two color (red and Blue) UEHG in Blue, Purple, Pink and Red.

Here are my opinions ---

Blue: looks amazing very crisp (light fills up the whole blade)
Purple: the hue looks much too blue for my taste (light fills up most of the blade but the plastic walls are visible inside)
Pink: this color pops out at you and is extremely bright (light fills up the whole blade)
Red: looks dim (an inner and outer wall of light/plastic are very visible inside the blade)

After seeing this display I have two questions

1.  Will a midgrade brigthen up the red saber and eliminate the two walls of light effect that the UEHG gives it or will this color just always give way to two visible plastic tubes inside regardless of the blade type?

2. How deep of a green is consular green I understand that pictures fail to do the blades justice and a first hand account is best in my opinion!

Thats all thanks so much guys !

I have a MidGrade blade with BR.  It is very bright and glows nicely.  Emory mentioned to me in an email that the "MidGrade" blades tend to be the brightest as they have a thinner wall than the HG blades.  There is also a "silver" sheen to the blade when it's off.  Unlike the Ultra Edge blades, which are white in appearance when off.  I believe the "Silvery" appearance is due to an application of a reflective film placed in the blade.  Personally, I have an UE blade and I'm not as impressed with the luminance or brightness of the color as I am with the MG blade, in my humble opinion.  Many attest differently and I believe that results from the lighting in a room where you use it, battery strength and of course, your eyes.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Dcast59 on June 10, 2015, 11:58:11 PM
I have a MidGrade blade with BR.  It is very bright and glows nicely.  Emory mentioned to me in an email that the "MidGrade" blades tend to be the brightest as they have a thinner wall than the HG blades.  There is also a "silver" sheen to the blade when it's off.  Unlike the Ultra Edge blades, which are white in appearance when off.  I believe the "Silvery" appearance is due to an application of a reflective film placed in the blade.  Personally, I have an UE blade and I'm not as impressed with the luminance or brightness of the color as I am with the MG blade, in my humble opinion.  Many attest differently and I believe that results from the lighting in a room where you use it, battery strength and of course, your eyes.

Interesting and helpful. This gives me much more confidence in blazing red now! Also, the lighting for all my observations was in a pitch black room.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Dcast59 on June 11, 2015, 03:52:42 AM
In person will I see a plastic tube surrounding the light beam when using a midgrade blade? I plan on using it when it's pitch black out for reference of lighting.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Choco on June 11, 2015, 07:31:33 AM
In person will I see a plastic tube surrounding the light beam when using a midgrade blade? I plan on using it when it's pitch black out for reference of lighting.

yes but it's not as thick as the Heavy grade and Mid grades are brigther then heavies as there is less tubing wall for the light to pass through. I have both UE and Regular Mid grade and Personally for my BR Saber I like the Mid-grade blade over it over the UE



Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: pvcaddict on July 11, 2015, 09:57:16 AM
After spending some time with both of my sabers, which are BR and GB, I've formed my opinion on UE and MG blades. I know this has all been said before, but I figured that one more opinion and point of view wouldn't hurt. Especially if it's to help someone in the process of buying their first US. (Assuming this doesn't confuse them even more.)  :D

I'll also preface this by saying that I made my comparison in a pitch dark room in the middle of the night without any other light source to obscure or uncalibrate my vision.

Anyway.

For BR, ALWAYS MG.

UE blades really dull out the red to a pastel. The brightness is also unimpressive. BR in UE makes the saber look like one giant crayon or an aircraft marshalling wand.

MG blades make the red look more electric and, as others have said, give it this certain grainy haze that is reminiscent to the appearance of sabers in the original trilogy.


For GB, it really comes down to personal preference. One must look at the color in both UE and MG to make a decision. I can't simplify the answer more than that, unfortunately.

I personally prefer MG, and I was on the fence for quite some time.

MG gives the blue a more electric and alive appearance, but you also sacrifice a wider and fuller blade that you would get from an UE blade.

UE gives you the ocular perception of a fuller blade, but it gives the blue a more pastel and playful appearance.

The difference in brightness is negligible. In my opinion, one should consider the physical appearance and attributes of the blade, not the brightness. Do you want a fuller and wider (and possibly a brighter) looking blade or do you want a blade with more depth and realism while maybe sacrificing some brightness?

My final $0.02, MG is the way to go. It gives the color you choose a lot more realism and DEPTH, which I find is more important than anything else. Even if at times it means sacrificing some brightness. Besides, I don't think many of us own an instrument that can determine lux and lumens anyway. (Also, for those that don't already know, wattage has NO necessary correlation with brightness. Wattage only means how much energy the appliance is utilizing. Always look for lumens and lux for your light intensity and brightness. If you wish to know a little more about this, shoot me a PM. I've been keeping aquatic plants and corals for some time now which forced me to do extensive research on the subject. Online articles can get confusing.)

I hope this helps those of you that may need a second or third or fourth opinion.  ;D


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Groovidad on July 11, 2015, 08:01:40 PM
I agree with PVC on this.  MG is what I order.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Inzane on July 17, 2015, 05:22:41 PM
I'm still struggling with the blade type dilemma (MG or UE) for the following colors:
Bane's Heart
Violet Amethyst
Dark Violet Amethyst

What say you all?

(Note:  For the colors I currently own I'm definitely on team BR = MG and SRD = UE.  For GB I could go either way, but slightly leaning MG.)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Racona Nova on July 17, 2015, 05:48:12 PM
I would say MG is better for those colours, especially for VA and DVA. I own a DVA module myself, and it looks quite good in UE, but MG is the better choice.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Groovidad on July 17, 2015, 06:03:54 PM
I'm still struggling with the blade type dilemma (MG or UE) for the following colors:
Bane's Heart
Violet Amethyst
Dark Violet Amethyst

What say you all?

(Note:  For the colors I currently own I'm definitely on team BR = MG and SRD = UE.  For GB I could go either way, but slightly leaning MG.)

Brother, I have UE and MG's. I have swapped out blades on each of the following colors:  BR, VA, FO, SRD, SY, GB, CG, AB and AS.  Though I like the "fullness" projected by the UE, I always go back to the MG for it's "Electirc" appearance.  A matter of my eyes and taste, I believe.  The MG's appear to shimmer more which is most likely a result of the reflective film they insert in the MG's. I really dig that electric appearance! Yeah, I'm definately a MG Padawan! ;)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: ArtifaX on July 25, 2015, 09:39:32 AM
I'm planning to get VA or DVA and it seems that people tend to say that UE are a bit worse on those colors...
But my main dilemma is between heavy and mid... I plan to do some sparing and some spinning with it with my brother. Not sure how much force we will put in our blows(might get pretty nasty=) )
So, how strong and "bending" the mid grade is and how heavy the heavy one is and what would you generally recommend?
And finally the length... I'm 5'11 and my brother is 5'6. Should we both settle for 32' or i might be more comfortable with a longer one?
Thank you.



Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Caylem on July 25, 2015, 03:08:13 PM
I've heard that the heavygrade is twice the weight than the normal MG. For you, a 36'' would be good i think, but for your brother, i would recommand a 32''. I'm 6'2.5'' and have no problem with a 36''. Maybe an opinion from a smaller member would be more accurate.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: ArtifaX on July 25, 2015, 03:31:40 PM
I've heard that the heavygrade is twice the weight than the normal MG.

Yeah, but they never said what is the weight exactly i believe... For example, if the handle is say 5 kilo and blades are 0.5 and 1 than it doesnt really matter. (hopefully handle and blade must be around the same weight)
I have a couple of real steel katanas that i play arround with, so i'm just trying to understand how heavy it might be=)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: wargame_insomniac on July 25, 2015, 04:08:05 PM
But my main dilemma is between heavy and mid... I plan to do some sparing and some spinning with it with my brother. Not sure how much force we will put in our blows(might get pretty nasty=) )
So, how strong and "bending" the mid grade is and how heavy the heavy one is and what would you generally recommend?
And finally the length... I'm 5'11 and my brother is 5'6. Should we both settle for 32' or i might be more comfortable with a longer one?
Thank you.
For cheaper Stunt-Mid level Sabers I have gone for Heavy Grade. They can take more punishment and don't have to worry too much about them.

Most people recommend either duelling MG versus MG OR HG versus HG. DON'T mi MG versus HG.

On length I prefer 32"  if spinning or using single handed.   I'm also 5'11" and I find that my 36" blade is more likely to catch on ground on downward spins, thus adversely affecting my technique.

Cheers

James


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Nerdicus on July 28, 2015, 04:27:05 PM
Does anyone know the thicknesses of the blade types? Like, what is the thickness of midgrade blades?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Groovidad on July 28, 2015, 05:43:29 PM
Yeah, but they never said what is the weight exactly i believe... For example, if the handle is say 5 kilo and blades are 0.5 and 1 than it doesnt really matter. (hopefully handle and blade must be around the same weight)
I have a couple of real steel katanas that i play arround with, so i'm just trying to understand how heavy it might be=)


I don't have one, currently BUT, a kitchen scale would work great in getting the weight of blades.  I will comment that I did some competitive speed shooting (handgun) about 15 yrs ago.  Weight had EVERYTHING to do with bringing muzzle on target.  The "speed guns" are modified to make them as "light" as possible, while maintaining the integrity of the firearm.  Grams, ounces matter!  I can tell the differences in weight between MG and UE. Further, when you run between 32" and 36", well.....that's a given, as you know it will weigh more.  To some, the weight may be imperceptable yet, hilt, blade length, pommel, emmitters all add and switching between different blades of differing configuration will make a difference in "how" it is wielded during spins.  Is it critical to wielding, only if your life depended upon it! ;)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master Nero Attoru on July 28, 2015, 09:15:56 PM
My rule of thumb is, if you're going so hard that you "need" Heavy Grade, then you should be wearing extensive gear to prevent injury.  Otherwise, stick to midgrade (unless of course you like the balance of a Heavy Grade specifically)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: raunchyruss on August 28, 2015, 07:43:40 AM
Hello people, glad to be on the board!

I hope you do not mind answering a few questions from a new guy like me.

1. So I plan to go for Arbiter or Dark Arbiter, but did not see any details regarding it's weight (the hilt itself). If someone has any information I'd love to know it.

2. Also I see TRI option for color (I am considering Fire Orange). So as I understood it just packs three diodes instead of one, and how exactly does that affect the output? Does it make the blade more bright or even? I do not need Flash on Clash option, my goal is to have it as bright as even as possible.

3. However despite #2 I plan to go for UEHG blade. It's not that I plan on heavy dueling, I just have bad luck on breaking stuff and thus prefer durability in general. I've found some comparison and as I can see HG blades are not as heavy as I thought weighing only 11 oz. I am 5 ft. 10 in. height and engage in regular physical exercise, so it should not be an issue. Will Fire Orange be good with TRI on UEHG or regular HG blade? (I can order both).

Thanks in advance!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Drahcir on August 28, 2015, 07:57:15 AM
Hello people, glad to be on the board!

I hope you do not mind answering a few questions from a new guy like me.

1. So I plan to go for Arbiter or Dark Arbiter, but did not see any details regarding it's weight (the hilt itself). If someone has any information I'd love to know it.

2. Also I see TRI option for color (I am considering Fire Orange). So as I understood it just packs three diodes instead of one, and how exactly does that affect the output? Does it make the blade more bright or even? I do not need Flash on Clash option, my goal is to have it as bright as even as possible.

3. However despite #2 I plan to go for UEHG blade. It's not that I plan on heavy dueling, I just have bad luck on breaking stuff and thus prefer durability in general. I've found some comparison and as I can see HG blades are not as heavy as I thought weighing only 11 oz. I am 5 ft. 10 in. height and engage in regular physical exercise, so it should not be an issue. Will Fire Orange be good with TRI on UEHG or regular HG blade? (I can order both).

Thanks in advance!

I'll let someone else tackle question 1, I don't know the answer to that one. I do know the Arbiter is pretty large though.

2. The Tri setup gives you a slightly brighter blade - Emory said that it vastly improves the Fire Orange color though giving a fuller looking blade, so I'd definitely opt for it if that's the color you want.

3. UEHG vs HG comes down to personal preference honestly, I always recommend standard HG for Fire Orange though.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: raunchyruss on August 28, 2015, 08:22:10 AM
I'll let someone else tackle question 1, I don't know the answer to that one. I do know the Arbiter is pretty large though.

2. The Tri setup gives you a slightly brighter blade - Emory said that it vastly improves the Fire Orange color though giving a fuller looking blade, so I'd definitely opt for it if that's the color you want.

3. UEHG vs HG comes down to personal preference honestly, I always recommend standard HG for Fire Orange though.


Hey, many thanks for the reply! I probably will order both HG and UEHG blades, one that I will like less will be for practicing. :)
Also the large length of the arbiter is mostly the reason I want it. It's long, gives enough leverage and is simple, which I prefer in designs.

Also, I probably ask a question one million people asked already, but will they make the tip of the blade illuminated as well? As I understood illuminated tip gives you bright end of the blade, and considering that the light is diminished towards middle/end, the blade with illuminated tip appears to be less bright at the middle than at the tip and near the emitter, am I right?
I have actually started to think about TRI color to compensate this.

And what if I decide to get an emerald drive? Can it be more bright akin to TRI, or that depends on other factors? If yes, which ones?



Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Drahcir on August 28, 2015, 08:34:22 AM


Hey, many thanks for the reply! I probably will order both HG and UEHG blades, one that I will like less will be for practicing. :)
Also the large length of the arbiter is mostly the reason I want it. It's long, gives enough leverage and is simple, which I prefer in designs.

Also, I probably ask a question one million people asked already, but will they make the tip of the blade illuminated as well? As I understood illuminated tip gives you bright end of the blade, and considering that the light is diminished towards middle/end, the blade with illuminated tip appears to be less bright at the middle than at the tip and near the emitter, am I right?
I have actually started to think about TRI color to compensate this.

And what if I decide to get an emerald drive? Can it be more bright akin to TRI, or that depends on other factors? If yes, which ones?



The blade tips are generally less bright than the actual blade because there's a mirror on them to reflect light and make the blade itself brighter and more evenly distributed. If you want a better illuminated tip, go with the rounded tip, not the pointed one. TRI should help with that problem some.

The Emeralds brightness depends on how many of channels you're running at once and at what intensity. The higher you go up on both of those the less battery life you'll have. Emeralds biggest selling point is it's entirely customizable color options. A TRI setup is brighter than the emerald setup in my experience, but I haven't personally seen all the TRI colors yet, just a few of them.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: raunchyruss on August 28, 2015, 09:01:52 AM
The blade tips are generally less bright than the actual blade because there's a mirror on them to reflect light and make the blade itself brighter and more evenly distributed. If you want a better illuminated tip, go with the rounded tip, not the pointed one. TRI should help with that problem some.

Wow, very useful info! If I choose midgrade (UE or regular), shall it be more bright?

Also, is it possible to order the soundboard later in the future and install it? Just not sure I need it right now.

Many thanks!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Racona Nova on August 28, 2015, 05:29:02 PM
Slightly brighter due to the thinner wall, yes. But not really noticeable for most of us ;)

And yes, you can have sound added later - if you already have the Li-Ion battery/BuckPuck setup, it's even easier and cheaper to have it upgraded by US. Otherwise you have to pay for these upgrades from the standard setup, too.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Lord Sidious on October 11, 2015, 08:16:06 PM
Hi everyone

This is my first post.  ;D

I am about to place an order for my first sabers. I am intending to order Mantis, Scorpion and Reaper. Naturally the question of blade choice comes to mind. I have now read all twenty-plus pages of this thread about blade types and thank you all for making it informative. For my situation, this is is what I am intending to do with my sabers:

(a) I do not intend to duel with the sabers
(b) I do not really care for how the sabers look in video and photo when I film it
but,
(c) I do care how the sabers look in person when I hold it
(d) I most probably will switch on the sabers indoors, dimly lit rooms, outdoors in the dark/low light (or even in a movie theater  :P )

So based on my criteria above, my readings of this thread, and that I have NOT yet decided on colors, am I right in saying the following,

(1) Blazing Red, Fire Orange, S. Yellow , S. R. Destiny, Arctic Blue, Adegan Silver these lighter colors show brighter and less washed out/white diffused in Mid Grade?

(2) Guardian Blue, Counsel Green, Violet Amethyst show brighter or a more brilliant shine in Ultra Grade?

Judging by pictures, videos etc. it seems UG blades give the illusion of a brighter blade because of the white stuff the blade is made off giving the even diffusion/reflection. So it depends on the original color whether this trick is suitable or not (given your preference etc.) Thanks for reading!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Racona Nova on October 11, 2015, 08:28:50 PM
Hi Lord Sidious,

you got it down quite well. I'd say that SRD and AB also look good in UltraEdge blades.

So for your purpose a normal Mid Grade blade would be the best option, mostly because it gives some kind of "core" effect due to the clear separation between the wall and the blade film. However, all things said about blades, their suitability and their look is completely subjective. So don't wonder if there might be someone with a different opinion ;)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: ShinySpeedDemon on October 12, 2015, 03:21:38 AM
In your opinion, what blade type would allow fire orange to show up best in the day?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Lord Sidious on October 14, 2015, 08:17:40 AM
I found a website which I quote the following useful notes about blades.

Quote

The first step in the blade-construction process was to decide whether the blade would be based on a clear tube, or a translucent white tube. The advantage of a trans-white tube is that it inherently provides excellent diffusion, and can produce very even light all by itself. They also tend to look great when filmed or photographed, and make an easy sell when shown off to customers. However, trans-white blades have two very serious drawbacks. The first is that they tend to wash out the colors of the LED. That means they rob your blade of saturation, something like the difference between a bright neon orange and a faded pastel orange. The other drawback of a trans-white tube is that it can't produce the look of a "core" in the same way that clear tubes with diffusion film can do.

So I think some colors might work very well on UE blades as discussed in many posts, such as Arctic Blue where I am guessing because it is a light blue, the UE diffusion adds to that illusion of lightness in the blue hue. Just my two cents.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Angelus Lapis on October 18, 2015, 08:59:06 PM
Just wanted to clarify something I was reading throughout this,

so blues and greens look better in the UE and reds and yellows look better in the standard?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Racona Nova on October 21, 2015, 07:52:09 PM
"Better" and "worse" are always subjective, remember that ;) But there's a trend, yes - colours made with blue and green will look good in either blade, colours that also include red in a significant amount will wash out too much in UE blades.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Zren Tobas on October 21, 2015, 09:32:48 PM
I like some colors in the clear blades and some in the Ultra Edge. I like blues sometimes in clear if I want that more classic glow or Ultra Edge if I want a PT style glow which is how I've always seen it. Red looks amazing in Ultra Edge though, to me anyway. Same with Emerald Green. Not sure about other colors though like orange, yellow, Bane's Heart, and so on. I like the glow of Consular Green in the clear blades though for sure, has that classic look to it same with Guardian Blue and Blazing Red but recently Ultra Edge have been my go to blades =]


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Lord Sidious on October 27, 2015, 11:26:33 AM
I like some colors in the clear blades and some in the Ultra Edge. I like blues sometimes in clear if I want that more classic glow or Ultra Edge if I want a PT style glow which is how I've always seen it. Red looks amazing in Ultra Edge though, to me anyway. Same with Emerald Green. Not sure about other colors though like orange, yellow, Bane's Heart, and so on. I like the glow of Consular Green in the clear blades though for sure, has that classic look to it same with Guardian Blue and Blazing Red but recently Ultra Edge have been my go to blades =]

Thanks, I am interested in your opinion on Sentinel Yellow and blade type for SY.

I seem to read "near equal" amounts of preference for MG and UE blades for SY.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Zren Tobas on October 29, 2015, 06:30:49 AM
That's a color I don't have yet. Need me one though too


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: TelepathicTraffic on November 15, 2015, 09:40:27 PM
Thanks, I am interested in your opinion on Sentinel Yellow and blade type for SY.

I seem to read "near equal" amounts of preference for MG and UE blades for SY.

I have SY in my Dark Sentinel. I think it looks good in mid-grade or heavy equally. The ultredge does wash it out a bit much in SY.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: jedikiller on December 01, 2015, 04:44:10 PM
what Lightsaber would be the best if I want to use one hand but could use two? I need this one because I have wanted a saber for a long time and was also wondering what the best color would be?


Title: Emerald Driver Blade
Post by: Guardian-of-the-Balance on December 26, 2015, 09:32:47 PM
I'm going to get an emerald driver on my saber, and after reading all of this, I'm more informed but still not sure. Can anyone offer some advice for the best blade type for an emerald driver? I'll be dueling with it as well. Any information is appreciated!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: spikedtolerance on December 31, 2015, 01:38:51 AM
Hey guys. I'm planning to buy a double saber (Dark Apprentice v4 LE in Sun Rider's Destiny, MG blade...Maybe Arctic Blue for the second blade?) but I'm a bit worried about the total length of the saber. Total hilt length based on the preview is 18", so I'm not sure if I should get 24" or 32" blades since I'm less than 5".

Suggestions? :)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Landen Se-Sentien on December 31, 2015, 01:45:48 AM
You could get the longer blades and cut them down yourself if you find they're too long. I've seen that it's pretty easy if you use a pipe cutter or something similar.  There have been a few threads on this topic. Here's one.
http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=20159.0 (http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=20159.0)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Dauntless Seven on December 31, 2015, 05:42:07 PM
Hi spikedtolerance.  There are several blade options that you can do depending upon your budget.  Your first goal is to create a saber staff that will be manageable for your height so that you will enjoy using it.  Frequently hitting the ceiling and ground isn't much fun.  The blade will go approx. 2.5 inches into each emitter so less external blade in the total length.

I suggest choosing the 24" blades that the Apprentice saber comes with.  Then once you are more comfortable using the staff, get some 32" blades.  Another plan would be to get the 32" and as said prior, to cut them down.  You could pay for the custom length blades in 28  - 30". 

If you are wanting to separate the sabers and use for spinning and dueling, the 24" will still be a good starter length but eventually you will be wanting a longer blade.  You could order 2 grab bag blades and ask for them in the 32" length.  You won't have a choice of what blade you get, but you could request a matching pair and see what happens.  :)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: James Casey on January 03, 2016, 11:24:48 PM
This is my personal view of which colours look best in which blades, based on 3 years and a lot of testing with all the combinations:

Standard midgrade - These blades give the 'core' effect, with a brighter central area above the emitter, and a deeper colouration beyond that. For this reason, I prefer deeper colours with this type of blade.

Blazing Red
Consular Green
Dark Violet Amethyst
Guardian Blue
Fire Orange
Pyrestone Orange

Either

Violet Amethyst (although I personally lean towards midgrade blades for the core effect)
Bane's Heart
Hot Pink
Emerald Green
Arctic Blue (I like this in ultraedge mainly, but it seems to shift shades slightly in a standard blade to more of a sky blue - an interesting effect)

Ultraedge - These blades give a more stable appearance, with the blade colour appearing fuller thoughout more of the blade. For that reason, I prefer lighter colours with this type of blade.

Adegan Silver
Sentinel Yellow (but as this is a forum colour, the depth of the shade may vary. Mine is a lighter yellow, so I feel it suits ultraedge)
Sunrider's Destiny

My experience is that when you shift up to a heavy grade blade, the only difference is a slight dimming of the blade - barely noticeable most of the time, so the above applies both to mid and heavy grade blades.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: DarthScrub on January 03, 2016, 11:36:19 PM
Thanks for your opinion, James Casey, very informative! Light point given


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Dauntless Seven on January 04, 2016, 03:26:54 AM
Thanks James for further LED color with best blade info.  Even though it is always one's personal preference, it's a difficult choice if a person doesn't own a variety of blades.  I tend to like the MG and HG silver film blade and the visual look of the core color.  But I also say if in doubt, get the UE blade, especially for red and orange.  Also the UE is best for photography and lower light situations.   :)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Zren Tobas on January 04, 2016, 09:15:00 PM
I notice that with Arctic Blue and Ultra Edge blades as well. Kinda cool. I have one now in my Arctic/Sky Blue Overlord. I like how it kinda changes the color a bit. Same with Sun Rider's Destiny, gives more of a teal green look with the Ultra Edge blade


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Dauntless Seven on January 05, 2016, 05:04:28 AM
I'm not checking my replies well before posting.  Meant to agree with James that red and orange tend to look best with the standard MG and HG blades, but one has to like that core effect versus the fuller lit blade.  Orange with an UE blade tends to look like a creamsicle.   :)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: MaxTO on January 10, 2016, 01:03:15 AM
Darn wish I had of seen this before I ordered . Now I am worried what my TRI red blade will look like in the UE
 heavy ?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Dauntless Seven on January 10, 2016, 01:51:03 AM
Darn wish I had of seen this before I ordered . Now I am worried what my TRI red blade will look like in the UE
 heavy ?


Your Tri red will look bright and very sithy.   8)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: MaxTO on January 10, 2016, 02:32:34 AM

Your Tri red will look bright and very sithy.   8)

Good stuff .
The OP seem to realy downplay the UE Heavy


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: ArtoriusaurusRex on January 10, 2016, 01:48:45 PM
I wanted to ask about that, too.


So it looks good with the TRI LED? What about a single LED or an Emerald setup?



I just can't help but wonder if the Reds and Oranges and such really look all that bad with Ultraedge compared to regular. The idea of even light distribution is attractive to me, but not if it's totally washed out...


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Dauntless Seven on January 11, 2016, 01:44:40 AM
Newer lightsaber owners automatically tend to worry needlessly about LED colors and blades.  Almost 98 % are very pleased when they receive their saber.  Don't pay too much attention to what others choose other than as a guideline, as there is no best look and combo.  Some colors generally do look better/brighter with a specific blade, but that does not mean that the color will look bad if a little dimmer or with a softer hue.   Dimmer and softer does not necessarily equate to dull and washed out.  Some prefer the look of a silver film for a more intense core center light diffusion while others want the evenly lit full blade appearance offered by the white UE film.

If it is that important to guarantee that you will get the brightest blade illumination, then I suggest paying a little extra and get both a standard and UE blade to see which you like the best.  Most members will end up with more than one saber so as your collection grows, you can be adventurous.   :)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Whitakker on January 23, 2016, 10:42:10 AM
This question may have been answered elsewhere, perhaps even on this thread, but exactly how much do each of the blade types weigh, in either ouces/pounds or grams/kilograms?  Has anyone done those weigh-ins yet?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: ArtoriusaurusRex on January 23, 2016, 04:48:34 PM
This question may have been answered elsewhere, perhaps even on this thread, but exactly how much do each of the blade types weigh, in either ouces/pounds or grams/kilograms?  Has anyone done those weigh-ins yet?

Well, a FedEx package with two heavy grade blades weighed about 2 pounds. Maybe 2.5. Blades don't weigh much


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Higgs on February 02, 2016, 10:05:57 PM
Do you guys think the ultra edge has any effect on how dark the color is? I wonder if ultra edge would make dark violet amethyst lighter


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Karmack on February 02, 2016, 11:21:20 PM
In my experience UE vs standard blades doesn't change the color, but it does change the intensity and "solidity" of the color, if that makes any sense.  UE blades tend to look more solid, like a solid core of light, where the standard blades are more shimmery and translucent.  Cooler colors also like the UE (or our eyes like the UE effect on cooler colors, maybe?) better than warm, so reds, oranges, yellows like standard blades better and blues, purples and blue-greens like the UE.  Green seems to be a total toss-up.  :-)

So in short, no, no change, just a change in ... texture?  Does that word work?  LOL 


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Lord Sidious on February 03, 2016, 07:15:40 PM
Do you guys think the ultra edge has any effect on how dark the color is? I wonder if ultra edge would make dark violet amethyst lighter

DVA looks nicer in Midgrade to my eyes. You can see the hint of blue in DVA with Midgrade.

VA looks nicer in Ultraedge to my eyes. It's a nicely diffused lighter purple if that is what you are after.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: PKL on February 15, 2016, 07:40:50 PM
I wanted to chime in to this thread.

Now that I own 3 Ultrasabers, I can say the best blade is the UltraEdge, if you want it for dueling get the heavy duty, if you don't want it for dueling don't get heavy duty, but definitely UltraEdge.

The UltraEdge blade just makes it look so much more like a real lightsaber.

My $.02!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Caedyss on February 22, 2016, 08:34:31 AM
This is a great explanation, with 1 exception. It mentioned MG, and UE, but whats the benefit of the UEMG? It there even 1?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: BurceChuat on February 22, 2016, 08:46:27 AM
This is a great explanation, with 1 exception. It mentioned MG, and UE, but whats the benefit of the UEMG? It there even 1?

Ultraedge Midgrade just means a Midgrade blade with a white film. Keep in mind that Mid/Heavy grade and Ultraedge/non-Ultraedge are 2 different categories, with Mid/Heavy relating to weight and durability and Ultraedge/non-Ultraedge relating to cosmetics. The benefits afforded by UEMG are that it's brighter than UEHG, and weighs less. However, being a midgrade blade, it's less durable.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Caedyss on February 22, 2016, 09:45:40 AM
Ultraedge Midgrade just means a Midgrade blade with a white film. Keep in mind that Mid/Heavy grade and Ultraedge/non-Ultraedge are 2 different categories, with Mid/Heavy relating to weight and durability and Ultraedge/non-Ultraedge relating to cosmetics. The benefits afforded by UEMG are that it's brighter than UEHG, and weighs less. However, being a midgrade blade, it's less durable.

Right. I think I just confused my terms. Thanks for the clarification. Sometimes early mornings happen.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Whitakker on February 25, 2016, 06:59:00 AM
After having received my saber the other day, I'll give my own testimony.  Sunrider's Destiny, as originally stated by Deep, looks just "okay" in UltraEdge Heavy Grade.  It does get noticably dimmer towards the tip of the blade.  Granted, I only have a stunt with the AAA battery setup.  I'm gonna keep my Heavy Grade around for dueling purposes, and pick up an UltraEdge MidGrade on my next paycheck, as I really want SRD to look as vibrant as it can be for convention season.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: JediApprenticeChris37 on February 26, 2016, 01:23:21 PM
whet blade looks good for sential yellow

please give me your thoughs


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: James Casey on February 26, 2016, 01:31:50 PM
I tend to go with ultraedge for yellow, but it depends on the shade you get. Mine is quite a light shade, so I prefer UE for it.

Ultimately, you won't know for sure unless you try it. I tend to suggest starting with a midgrade blade for your first, as there aren't any colours that look bad in it, but some colours do benefit from a UE blade.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Vivectius on February 28, 2016, 04:46:33 AM
whet blade looks good for sential yellow

please give me your thoughs


Here's a thread with pictures of Sentinel Yellows in different blade types.

Perhaps this thread will help: [url]http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=15057.0[/url]


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: JediApprenticeChris37 on March 02, 2016, 05:34:58 PM
can someone tell me what blade grade sential yellow looks good in 


please message me on here


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: A31 on March 05, 2016, 03:18:01 AM
Ok I'll apologize for having so many questions...but I am wanting a Archon V2 in Cosular Green. I am a shorter person around 5' 7". The reviews I've seen say that the blade goes about four inches into the omitter. I like the 32' blades but should I get a 36' if it goes into the hilt that deep? Plus I'm still on the fence about the Midgrade vs the Ultraedge blade...I like the silver look when off..but I want it to be bright in Consular Green. All help and guidance is very appreciated!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Dauntless Seven on March 05, 2016, 03:27:31 AM
can someone tell me what blade grade sential yellow looks good in 


please message me on here

Hi.  Your same previous post and questions were answered just a few entries ago.  After checking that information out please ask for further specific clarification if you still need it.   :)

Just scroll up this page for your question and responses dated Feb. 26th and 27th.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: ThreadJack on March 05, 2016, 05:11:54 AM
Ok I'll apologize for having so many questions...but I am wanting a Archon V2 in Cosular Green. I am a shorter person around 5' 7". The reviews I've seen say that the blade goes about four inches into the omitter. I like the 32' blades but should I get a 36' if it goes into the hilt that deep? Plus I'm still on the fence about the Midgrade vs the Ultraedge blade...I like the silver look when off..but I want it to be bright in Consular Green. All help and guidance is very appreciated!

It's personal preference, but I'm the same height and I use 36" blades in all my sabers. I only use UE(I do have a couple standard blades) and I don't really see the color washing in any of my colors that others seem too. I think CG looks very nice in UE. If you're hard on your blades, go HG, otherwise just get UE midgrade.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: A31 on March 05, 2016, 06:39:33 AM
It's personal preference, but I'm the same height and I use 36" blades in all my sabers. I only use UE(I do have a couple standard blades) and I don't really see the color washing in any of my colors that others seem too. I think CG looks very nice in UE. If you're hard on your blades, go HG, otherwise just get UE midgrade.

Thanks! Appreciate the help! I was just wondering if the 32" blade would be like a 28" blade in the Archon V2.1. So I may just go for the 36" just to have a different blade. Point to you Dark side right?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: JediApprenticeChris37 on March 05, 2016, 04:47:34 PM
Hi.  Your same previous post and questions were answered just a few entries ago.  After checking that information out please ask for further specific clarification if you still need it.   :)

Just scroll up this page for your question and responses dated Feb. 26th and 27th.


I'm deeply sorry about that dauntless seven


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: ThreadJack on March 05, 2016, 05:23:32 PM
Thanks! Appreciate the help! I was just wondering if the 32" blade would be like a 28" blade in the Archon V2.1. So I may just go for the 36" just to have a different blade. Point to you Dark side right?

The blade goes in about 4" on that saber, so a 32" blade would essentially be a 28" blade. Whether or not you'd be comfortable with that is a question only you can answer.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: A31 on March 07, 2016, 09:06:44 PM
The blade goes in about 4" on that saber, so a 32" blade would essentially be a 28" blade. Whether or not you'd be comfortable with that is a question only you can answer.

Thanks ThreadJack! That's what I was thinking...so I wouldn't really like a 28" blade. So I will go with a 36" even if it's 32 or 33ish it should be fine for me to spin. Appreciate the help! Point to you. I'm about to order my raffle saber...


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: ThreadJack on March 08, 2016, 03:29:04 AM
Thanks ThreadJack! That's what I was thinking...so I wouldn't really like a 28" blade. So I will go with a 36" even if it's 32 or 33ish it should be fine for me to spin. Appreciate the help! Point to you. I'm about to order my raffle saber...

No problem man. Yeah, a 28" blade is a bit short, unless you're a small women under 5'2" it really doesn't make much sense. That being said, blade length is all personal preference. We have taller members who love 32" blades, and shorter members(like myself) who don't really care and like the standard blades.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: sedstiskyfaller on March 08, 2016, 05:00:14 AM
No problem man. Yeah, a 28" blade is a bit short, unless you're a small women under 5'2" it really doesn't make much sense. That being said, blade length is all personal preference. We have taller members who love 32" blades, and shorter members(like myself) who don't really care and like the standard blades.

In other words, the size isn't what matters, but rather how you use it  ;)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: ThreadJack on March 08, 2016, 05:01:19 AM
In other words, the size isn't what matters, but rather how you use it  ;)

Yes, exactly.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Zren Tobas on March 09, 2016, 07:41:40 AM
Ohh my :P Sorry had to. Lol. But for reds, I now more prefer the standard blades. Looks more eviler. I need new blades for all my sabers though x.x Some colors I don't mind the Ultra Edge one like blues, greens, whites. Haven't tried a yellow or the Pyrestone Orange yet on one though for I don't have either of those colors yet. I know I need to get me both colors at some point same with a purple :P


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Racona Nova on March 09, 2016, 07:03:50 PM
PO looks quite passable on UE although it includes a lot of red (which looks better in Standard blades). Tried that with my Emerald saber, and it became one of my favourite colours!

For yellow shades, I recommend the standard blades, though. With UE it looks like...well, I think you know what I mean :P


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: ogplebian on April 13, 2016, 11:13:26 PM
What's best for DVA? UEH right?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Racona Nova on April 14, 2016, 05:50:30 PM
I find that DVA looks more authentic in the regular silver blades. UE tends to wash out that colour too much. I made some pics and a review over two years ago...deep in the Review section :D I can try to find it, but no guarantee that I succeed :P

Found it - http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=16925.0 ;)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Allmachtige on April 15, 2016, 03:48:05 AM
Sorry if this has been asked, but for a crossguard such as the Flamberge to replicate a Kylo Ren saber intensity is MG the best bet?

It seems a lot of you like HG just as much, but I see very little love for UE at all when it comes to Blazing Red.  I'd just hate for that color to fade near the end, especially that the emerald saber options are either 36" or 40" with the Flamberge.

My initial thought is that it may get fairly dull nearing the tip of the blade without UE.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Racona Nova on April 15, 2016, 06:06:37 PM
Yeah, standard MG would work better for Blazing Red. Don't worry about brightness - you won't really notice that because much of the light will be reflected by the tip which makes the area below the tip almost as bright as the remaining blade.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: ThreadJack on April 16, 2016, 12:17:10 AM
Sorry if this has been asked, but for a crossguard such as the Flamberge to replicate a Kylo Ren saber intensity is MG the best bet?

It seems a lot of you like HG just as much, but I see very little love for UE at all when it comes to Blazing Red.  I'd just hate for that color to fade near the end, especially that the emerald saber options are either 36" or 40" with the Flamberge.

My initial thought is that it may get fairly dull nearing the tip of the blade without UE.

I happen to like BR in UE blades....I may be the only one though.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Allmachtige on April 16, 2016, 02:27:10 AM
I happen to like BR in UE blades....I may be the only one though.

MG or HG?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Racona Nova on April 16, 2016, 06:08:48 PM
I happen to like BR in UE blades....I may be the only one though.
I don't think that UE looks bad...I use both blade types in BR sabers, but for me it just has more of this "Wow" effect in standard blades :)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Qwenloswen on May 09, 2016, 05:22:27 PM
So I've read through most of the pages on this thread and for the most part I've been seeing that the response boils down to "don't worry too much, it's all subjective anyway and you'll probably like whatever you get" but since I currently can only justify getting one blade I'm a bit hesitant to pick one at random on my first saber.

My problem is that I'm getting the emerald driver and the two colours I foresee using the most are pretty much at opposite ends of the spectrum - Blazing Red and Sunrider's Destiny or at least close approximations thereof. I've been seeing that for the most part people agree (with some exceptions) that reds generally look better in the standard while Sunrider's Destiny is suited to the Ultraedge.

I'm currently leaning towards the standard because while blues and greens look "better" (mileage may vary) in UE, they don't look "worse" in standard like some seem to feel that red does in UE. Does this seem like a logical conclusion to those of you with some experience?

I also plan to use this saber for combat so does heavy vs. mid grade make a very big difference? This last question is both in regards to lighting as well as how much abuse a mid grade can take.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Racona Nova on May 09, 2016, 06:25:37 PM
The standard blades mostly show the "true" colour, so you won't be wrong when using that blade for BR and especially SRD.

Regarding the strength of the blade, what combat do you prefer? Full contact heavy dueling or light sparring? For full contact, definitely get the Heavy Grades (you might notice a slight sacrifice of brightness, but it's barely visible), for light and medium sparring the Mid Grades are more than sufficient.

And be so kind, please read through our forum rules and post a short acknowledgement ;)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Qwenloswen on May 09, 2016, 07:28:20 PM
My preference is full contact but I suppose in truth there are very few people in my area who would prefer the same. However, if the brightness loss is largely negligible I might as well go heavier for future use.

Thank you, you've helped me settle on standard heavy weight, I appreciate the input.


And be so kind, please read through our forum rules and post a short acknowledgement ;)

Oh. Oops, my thanks. I was clearly lurking on this thread before ever posting, thank you for alerting me to that.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Racona Nova on May 10, 2016, 06:28:12 PM
No problem, always glad to help :D


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Gamble on May 18, 2016, 03:39:39 AM
Thank you deep your post was very helpful for my future orders


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Lord Sidious on May 18, 2016, 09:07:10 AM
The standard blades mostly show the "true" colour, so you won't be wrong when using that blade for BR and especially SRD.

....

Sorry, Sun Riders Destiny looks awful in Midgrade blade, it looks much better in Ultraegde to my eyes.

Blazing Red looks good in both, however more brilliant and accurate in Midgrade.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Racona Nova on May 18, 2016, 05:07:59 PM
Could be due to my Emerald settings I used some time ago...with those it looked better in Standard Mid Grade. Can't compare to the stock SRD, though, so I just rated it according to how I liked it in UE and Standard :) Nonetheless, it's always good to hear other opinions!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Lord Sidious on May 19, 2016, 11:47:59 AM
Exactly, it's always interesting to read other people's opinion about colors and which blades go "best" with which.  :)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Mads on May 21, 2016, 11:13:09 PM
I'll gladly sacrifice a small amount of brightness for the heavier gauge blades just for the power moves when dueling. I actually like the way they look with the lights on in the garage (for dueling) so for me it's no bother at all. I need my Sabers to hit things like people so might as well hit 'em real good.

It's ok sometimes those people hit me back and it really hurts. Good times had by all.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: ithekro on May 22, 2016, 07:00:31 AM
Fortunately the loss from using heavy grade blades on not too great.  Depending on the color of light used.  The TRI-Cree likely fix that problem, though you lose the ability to have Flash on Clash and some of the mixed colors.

The Emerald Driver powered sabers aren't as bright as the TRI-Cree for all colors, but they are usually bright enough to over come the heavy grade blades.  Though my ability to compare is impacted a little, as I only have heavy grade blades, but they look nice.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: readroof2 on May 25, 2016, 03:49:38 AM
I am about to get a Manticore CE in Emerald, and I don't know whether to get mid grade or heavy grade (not ultra-edge though). I think I will be using all colors, like green, blue, purple, red, orange, yellow, and brown if I can make that. Which blade type should I choose? I doubt I will be doing much sparring, but I don't want the blade to be damaged at all when I do.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Gamble on May 30, 2016, 07:25:16 AM
Thanks deep enjoyed reading your post on the different types of blades well said it was very helpful thanks


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: ChrisTheCalvinist on June 15, 2016, 12:49:02 PM
I like the ultraedge midgrade, the shiney blade, mid grade (I think) I'm not a big fan of that.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Juanwiththeforce on July 02, 2016, 11:58:49 PM
Hey guys I'm getting an Apprentice V4 (With Ob. V4 Sound) in blazing red.

I plan on screwing around with the saber once/twice a week, and I plan to also do some sparring.

Recommendation for best all-around blade? I'm looking for a duel-capable one that still looks good. A suggestion would be helpful. Thanks! :)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Landen Se-Sentien on July 03, 2016, 02:12:43 AM
Hey guys I'm getting an Apprentice V4 (With Ob. V4 Sound) in blazing red.

I plan on screwing around with the saber once/twice a week, and I plan to also do some sparring.

Recommendation for best all-around blade? I'm looking for a duel-capable one that still looks good. A suggestion would be helpful. Thanks! :)

I'd get a heavy grade and ultraedge heavy grade. Some people like one, and some like the other. It all depends on how your eye perceives it, but I'd definitely stick with the heavy grade, due to its strength when sparring. The mid grade can dent, bend, and the film inside can come loose.

Once you see it in either blade type, you'll know which one to get in the future if you ever need to replace it.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: TheOneTrueSlab on August 22, 2016, 08:14:40 AM
Hi,
So I've a fair amount of experience with HEMA (Historical European Martial Arts) and my weapon of choice has always been a single-edged, one handed longsword that can kinda work for occasional two handed use, and has a 105cm (41") total length including handle. I've been thinking of getting into Lightsaber duelling, so anyone got some help in terms of what blade or hilt I should pick?

Feel free to email me because i'll probably forget to check here.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: drtdgr2 on January 07, 2017, 08:48:28 AM
Hey guys I was able to get my camera to focus properly to show the difference between ultraedge and standard! Due to the camera focus it does appear dim, but don't worry they're both plenty bright  ;) First is the Ultraedge midgrade:

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/drtdgr2/Ultrasabers/IMG_20170107_032436_zpsvpr1lmhx.jpg) (http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/drtdgr2/media/Ultrasabers/IMG_20170107_032436_zpsvpr1lmhx.jpg.html)
This is my Adegan Silver Prophecy V3

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/drtdgr2/Ultrasabers/IMG_20170107_031930_zpsdr3gzf7z.jpg) (http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/drtdgr2/media/Ultrasabers/IMG_20170107_031930_zpsdr3gzf7z.jpg.html)
And my Guardian Blue Manticore

Now for the standard midgrade:

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/drtdgr2/Ultrasabers/IMG_20170107_032427_zpsdfgn7c8i.jpg) (http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/drtdgr2/media/Ultrasabers/IMG_20170107_032427_zpsdfgn7c8i.jpg.html)
Again with my Prophecy

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/drtdgr2/Ultrasabers/IMG_20170107_031840_zpsmrk1lmom.jpg) (http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/drtdgr2/media/Ultrasabers/IMG_20170107_031840_zpsmrk1lmom.jpg.html)
And my beautiful Manticore.

Hope this helps!! :D




Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Darth Genji on January 11, 2017, 12:26:56 AM
Hey guys I was able to get my camera to focus properly to show the difference between ultraedge and standard! Due to the camera focus it does appear dim, but don't worry they're both plenty bright  ;) First is the Ultraedge midgrade:

([url]http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/drtdgr2/Ultrasabers/IMG_20170107_032436_zpsvpr1lmhx.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/drtdgr2/media/Ultrasabers/IMG_20170107_032436_zpsvpr1lmhx.jpg.html[/url])
This is my Adegan Silver Prophecy V3

([url]http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/drtdgr2/Ultrasabers/IMG_20170107_031930_zpsdr3gzf7z.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/drtdgr2/media/Ultrasabers/IMG_20170107_031930_zpsdr3gzf7z.jpg.html[/url])
And my Guardian Blue Manticore



Now for the standard midgrade:

([url]http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/drtdgr2/Ultrasabers/IMG_20170107_032427_zpsdfgn7c8i.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/drtdgr2/media/Ultrasabers/IMG_20170107_032427_zpsdfgn7c8i.jpg.html[/url])
Again with my Prophecy

([url]http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/drtdgr2/Ultrasabers/IMG_20170107_031840_zpsmrk1lmom.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/drtdgr2/media/Ultrasabers/IMG_20170107_031840_zpsmrk1lmom.jpg.html[/url])
And my beautiful Manticore.

Hope this helps!! :D





Awesome. Definitely love the Ultraedge Midgrades because I'm more fond of the fuller blade effect and overall the extra brightness it provides for the colors especially if they're in Tri-Cree. Thank you. Points to you.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Teagan Rea on February 24, 2017, 11:56:02 PM
I have question to this, i am looking at the Fullsize Grab Bag Blades. When it says full size does that mean regular 36" blades


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Racona Nova on February 25, 2017, 09:39:26 PM
Yes, full size blades are 36".


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Finale Saint on May 08, 2017, 03:09:58 PM
Take it from me, Consular Green and Ultra Edge Heavy Grade is a MUST. Looks Great!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Darth_Bane on July 21, 2017, 06:07:04 PM
Very Informative! I have been trying to decide which blade to go with on my next purchase and this post helped me tremendously!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: brad81380 on July 27, 2017, 01:13:04 PM
I personally have a 32 inch Ultraedge Midgrade on mine.  Love the weighting, especially since right now the worst sparring I have done is the accidental kind with a closet door and my head(don't ask).  I am quite good with that, any longer wouldn't work for me.  Now, I do have a Guardian Blue, which looks good enough in the Ultraedge mid, but I am not a big fan of the color to begin with.  That said, it's not a bad color and shows well on the ultraedge.  I got a random color grab bag, but swapping out the led isn't that big a deal.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Darth Umbrex on August 08, 2017, 10:37:25 PM
Looking to get an emperor's hand in dva 36 inch. For dva do you think heavy grade or ultraedge heavy grade would look bettor?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Master Nero Attoru on August 09, 2017, 07:10:24 PM
Looking to get an emperor's hand in dva 36 inch. For dva do you think heavy grade or ultraedge heavy grade would look bettor?

The most ideal would be regular midgrade (which is much more durable than most people think).  That said, of the two you mentioned, there won't be much of a difference.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Darth Umbrex on August 10, 2017, 01:07:43 AM
The most ideal would be regular midgrade (which is much more durable than most people think).  That said, of the two you mentioned, there won't be much of a difference.
Thank you for the assistance.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: chalion on November 17, 2017, 02:08:13 AM
All this and it's really going to boil down to personal choice. What feels right for dueling, vs how the blade looks. Personally, I go mid-grade, but I don't duel much, so how it looks affects my viewpoint.



Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: WayneTheBat on November 24, 2017, 06:40:00 PM
Hello.  This may have been already asked, or in the wrong place so if it has/is forgive me.  I'm getting my kids two Mystery Boxes.  They are five, so probably won't be incredibly careful, or mind blade color intensity.  That sain, what kind of grade would be recommended for something like that?  I was leaning UE, but thought i would get opinions.  Thank you all for the time!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Zren Tobas on December 01, 2017, 12:19:42 AM
32 inch Heavy Grade or Ultra Edge Heavy Grade if they are either blue, green, or white blade colors, regular for reds and oranges though :P I like the regular the most for the purples too. If you do regular with the white though has kind of a blue tint to the color which is cool (Adegan Silver) Ultra Edge looks amazing in Emerald Green though =]


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Taegin Roan on December 01, 2017, 01:18:24 AM
Hello.  This may have been already asked, or in the wrong place so if it has/is forgive me.  I'm getting my kids two Mystery Boxes.  They are five, so probably won't be incredibly careful, or mind blade color intensity.  That sain, what kind of grade would be recommended for something like that?  I was leaning UE, but thought i would get opinions.  Thank you all for the time!

Personally, I prefer the regular style over the UE blades, but that is just me. As for grade, HG blades hurt. A lot. And the MG blades are still fairly hard to break. I would recommend MG blades of some style. It is up to you whether you want UE or not.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: saberdad on December 15, 2017, 04:41:50 PM
Great write-up. I went with the heavy duty blades for my 3 kids. They are super thick but not heavy, my 4 and 9 year old can wield them just fine. The only drawback was the thickness means you have to be careful when striking someone, as they do hurt when making contact.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Pswab on December 24, 2017, 07:13:35 PM
Hello, I am thinking about getting a Heavy UE Blade, with a Tri Cree Artic Blue color to give it that NEW HOPE look. I have read that there is a lot of debate about UE Blades and Heavy vs. Mid blades. Am I making a mistake with this current setup? I want a heavy blade just to be safe if I do use it for fun, but I still want it to have good color which is why I choose the Tri Cree LED's.

Thanks for the help!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Lady Agana Kath on December 24, 2017, 07:28:25 PM
The UE blade will look fantastic with the Tri Arctic Blue. Honestly both blade types will look great with the Tri so don't worry about it. It truly is personal preference on getting EU or regular. And when in doubt get heavy, I know that mids can get dented in heavy dueling.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Pswab on December 25, 2017, 06:21:43 AM
Thank you for your input, it looks like the only challenge I have left is deciding whether to go with the Graflex SE or CE. I like the lighter look of the SE but people say that the CE looks great in person with the nickel finish!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: markdh70 on December 28, 2017, 12:47:07 AM
I've tried digging through 29 pages and other threads but couldn't find the answer to my question. How do I tell the difference between blades? I mean just the blades without regard to effect on color and lighting. How do I determine if a supposed random blade is UE vs standard, or midgrade  vs heavy?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Landen Se-Sentien on December 28, 2017, 02:19:04 PM
I've tried digging through 29 pages and other threads but couldn't find the answer to my question. How do I tell the difference between blades? I mean just the blades without regard to effect on color and lighting. How do I determine if a supposed random blade is UE vs standard, or midgrade  vs heavy?

UE will look white, whereas standard will look silvery.

Heavy grade are noticeably thicker and heavier, but it takes a bit of comparison to another blade. I think mid grades are 1/16 inch thick and heavy grade are 1/8 inch thick.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: VladdyT on December 31, 2017, 04:59:00 AM
Very helpful guide. Just made a first purchase and wait with anticipation for my order!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Kyoukanwolf on December 31, 2017, 09:00:24 PM
It was a long read, but I appreciate all the information. I was able to pick the right blades for my mystery sabers.

Here comes some dueling :)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Lord Sidious on January 01, 2018, 12:57:45 AM
I've tried digging through 29 pages and other threads but couldn't find the answer to my question. How do I tell the difference between blades? I mean just the blades without regard to effect on color and lighting. How do I determine if a supposed random blade is UE vs standard, or midgrade  vs heavy?

Standard is thin wall and you can just squeeze the diameter of it, whereas heavy is thick wall and you would not be able to squeeze it. Midgrade is transparent polycarbonate (silver gray in appearance without LED on), whereas Ultraedge is a white polycarbonate.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Akhenaten on January 06, 2018, 12:51:46 AM
Great info!

I’ll need to order a half dozen right off the bat here (mix of lengths) but going to wait for my first order to be delivered to see what random I got first.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Darth_Eclipse on February 16, 2018, 03:07:45 AM
This was such great help, thank you


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: mace starkiller on March 13, 2018, 12:15:33 AM
Hey guys, i recently purchased the dark initiate saber. my blade color is guardian blue with arctic blue flash. i chose the ultraedge blade because i want to learn how to duel with it. my question is how much brightness will i actually give up in exchange for raw strength? i dont want a "dim" appearance when my blade ignites. did i make the right choice? this is my very first saber


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Lady Agana Kath on March 13, 2018, 12:56:38 AM
Hey guys, i recently purchased the dark initiate saber. my blade color is guardian blue with arctic blue flash. i chose the ultraedge blade because i want to learn how to duel with it. my question is how much brightness will i actually give up in exchange for raw strength? i dont want a "dim" appearance when my blade ignites. did i make the right choice? this is my very first saber
The difference between regular and Ultraedge is the look. Regular is clear with a silver sheen, Ultraedge will be white. What you need for dueling is a heavy grade blade, they come in both regular and Ultraedge. And lastly the dimming of the blade is slight, I wouldn't worry about it.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Infinit01 on June 21, 2018, 01:56:38 PM
It's a good read, I was trying to compare them on the site with no luck.  Looks like I'll lean towards the midgrades for most of my sabers and heavy grade for dueling.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Draddog on August 12, 2018, 07:52:33 PM
I'm digging around but not finding an answer - sorry if this has been answered before and I missed it. Does anyone know the weight bearing capacity of the various blades?

I'm asking because I've been looking for a saber cane - I'm on crutches now, but expect to be off them soon (surgery). I'll still need some help getting around for a few months. I saw another company made them but they have a huge build time (like months).

Someone on Reddit posted how she is using a Ultrasabers Brood Guard LE for a similar purpose. I suspect she is lighter than I am (I'm just over 210lbs). It's a super elegant concept though - I really like it! 


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Wolf Knight on January 14, 2019, 05:58:57 AM
Thank you for the info mate. I have been trying to find some info about the Heavy Grade vs UltraEdge Heavy Grade for a while now. I'm wanting to do the Fire Orange and was gonna do the UE until I read this post. Glad I found this otherwise I could have ended up not getting quite what I wanted.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: BionicDance on May 20, 2019, 09:11:22 PM
I'm really, really close to buying my first saber, and blade choice is my very last hurdle.
But I'm looking at the OP, and I'm just not sure. I want the best balance between durability and brightness, and...I'm just not sure.
 
MY CRITERIA[/b]
- I've decided on an RGBW Diamond Saber
- The color I most want to use is a kind of amber orange (I know this sounds kind of funny, but picture old monochrome PC monitors from the early 80s; that color); I'm getting the Diamond specifically for that hue customization (well, that, and I'm an animator, and making some of those FX will be awesome; I have this great idea for ignition...)
- I have every intention of joining a local lightsaber club and dueling; I have no idea how hard-core that gets, not yet. Durability matters to me, though
- As I said, I'm an animator; aesthetics matter. I want a bright blade; that's important
 
With those in mind, drawing a Venn Diagram around those criteria, what will best accomplish my goal? It sounds like Ultraedge Mid Grade is my best bet, or possibly just Heavy Grade (non-Ultraedge).
I don't really know what the weight difference is; the site says Ultraedge is twice as heavy, but...twice as heavy as what? (If it helps, I have an old ForceFX saber for comparison.)
I don't really know what the difference in brightness will really be like; I've seen pics and video, but they're all really inaccurate (cuz light+camera is always a bit of a crapshoot).

Help me out, here? Thanks. :)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Cyclops942 on May 20, 2019, 09:44:01 PM
I'm really, really close to buying my first saber, and blade choice is my very last hurdle.
But I'm looking at the OP, and I'm just not sure. I want the best balance between durability and brightness, and...I'm just not sure.
 
MY CRITERIA
- I've decided on an RGBW Diamond Saber
- The color I most want to use is a kind of amber orange (I know this sounds kind of funny, but picture old monochrome PC monitors from the early 80s; that color); I'm getting the Diamond specifically for that hue customization (well, that, and I'm an animator, and making some of those FX will be awesome; I have this great idea for ignition...)
- I have every intention of joining a local lightsaber club and dueling; I have no idea how hard-core that gets, not yet. Durability matters to me, though
- As I said, I'm an animator; aesthetics matter. I want a bright blade; that's important
 
With those in mind, drawing a Venn Diagram around those criteria, what will best accomplish my goal? It sounds like Ultraedge Mid Grade is my best bet, or possibly just Heavy Grade (non-Ultraedge).
I don't really know what the weight difference is; the site says Ultraedge is twice as heavy, but...twice as heavy as what? (If it helps, I have an old ForceFX saber for comparison.)
I don't really know what the difference in brightness will really be like; I've seen pics and video, but they're all really inaccurate (cuz light+camera is always a bit of a crapshoot).

Help me out, here? Thanks. :)

My 36" Ultra Edge Heavy Grade (UEHG) blade weighs 9.2 oz (or 261g) according to the kitchen scale, so a standard blade should be around 4.6 oz (or 130g), so we really aren't talking about much difference in weight.

Because I'm such a klutz, I would recommend the HG blade (just in case) since you're going to be sparring, but what about this?  Buy one regular blade and one standard HG blade.  An extra blade isn't THAT much extra money, especially if you buy it at the same time you buy your saber, because that way you'll only have to pay shipping once (and the shipping for the blades is what's so dang high, because they're so long).

Note that I have a grand total of ONE saber, and I've never done anything with it except pose and pretend to "flow" with it in the privacy of my back yard.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Karmack on May 20, 2019, 09:58:14 PM
I'm really, really close to buying my first saber, and blade choice is my very last hurdle.
But I'm looking at the OP, and I'm just not sure. I want the best balance between durability and brightness, and...I'm just not sure.
 
MY CRITERIA[/b]
- I've decided on an RGBW Diamond Saber
- The color I most want to use is a kind of amber orange (I know this sounds kind of funny, but picture old monochrome PC monitors from the early 80s; that color); I'm getting the Diamond specifically for that hue customization (well, that, and I'm an animator, and making some of those FX will be awesome; I have this great idea for ignition...)
- I have every intention of joining a local lightsaber club and dueling; I have no idea how hard-core that gets, not yet. Durability matters to me, though
- As I said, I'm an animator; aesthetics matter. I want a bright blade; that's important
 
With those in mind, drawing a Venn Diagram around those criteria, what will best accomplish my goal? It sounds like Ultraedge Mid Grade is my best bet, or possibly just Heavy Grade (non-Ultraedge).
I don't really know what the weight difference is; the site says Ultraedge is twice as heavy, but...twice as heavy as what? (If it helps, I have an old ForceFX saber for comparison.)
I don't really know what the difference in brightness will really be like; I've seen pics and video, but they're all really inaccurate (cuz light+camera is always a bit of a crapshoot).

Help me out, here? Thanks. :)


I'd recommend getting your saber with a standard blade and ordering a dueling blade (HG) to use when you duel.   Keep the mid-grade blade for spinning (non-contact) and display, as even a good HG blade will get marked up from dueling and will eventually look rough.   So keep the mid-grade nice and pristine and use it for display and cosplay, and use the HG for the real dueling.  :-)


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: janx on June 08, 2019, 03:15:47 PM
Reposting from the thread where somebody asked about what color his unlit UE blade should be.  I dd some science with my HG and my UEMG blades on a Violet and Red saber.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8jEbzQXkAAiYYD.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8jEbzSXkAEotI_.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8jEbzQXsAAgpQ_.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8jEbzTXUAEh9k8.jpg)

I didn't have time/room that night to get a full length shot (it was rainy outside and I prefer to not show off random portions of my home)

in the nonUE shots, I can see the edging of the tube, UE obviously does its job of filling out to the edge.

I don't know about the primary vs. secondary color and UE that Deep preferred.  BUT, I like the fullness of the blade for the purple.  Whereas on the Red, the UE looks too soft/cartoony, whereas on the nonUE, it's sharper, varied and a bit more evil looking.



Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Karmack on June 10, 2019, 07:00:05 AM
janx, I'm not fussing I am just curious as to why, but for some reason every picture you post comes up for me as a broken link.   If I copy and paste the URL from the embedded code I can see it just fine.  I am flommoxed.  :-/   I think from comments I see most others are seeing them.

Anyone have any ideas why?   Anyone else having issues like this?  OR is it is just me?   LOL


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: janx on June 10, 2019, 08:36:15 AM
janx, I'm not fussing I am just curious as to why, but for some reason every picture you post comes up for me as a broken link.   If I copy and paste the URL from the embedded code I can see it just fine.  I am flommoxed.  :-/   I think from comments I see most others are seeing them.

Anyone have any ideas why?   Anyone else having issues like this?  OR is it is just me?   LOL

I dunno. I'm using Twitter (saw somebody else say they use that).  Simply right-clicked Copy Image Address and pasted it here.  I've previewed every post with images to make sure they took.

very strange.

New thought, I'd bet money the twitter links are HTTPS.  And this site is HTTP only.  If you ever got a prompt for "this site is mixing secure and non-secure content" or some such and you said "Disallow" then your browser is aborting any download of secure content.  That would give you the broken links.



Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: S2mikey on August 21, 2019, 03:04:55 PM
So far, my favorite blade for looks and usability is the UltraEdge Midgrade in the 32" size.  My AEON L4 has the standard mid grade blade in Fire Orange and while it is very bright I dont think it looks as "real" as the UE-Mid blad.  I dont care for how the standard blade makes it  fairly easy to see the rolled up cellophane/whatever.  The silver appearence isnt as nice as the white polycarbonate look of the UE-Mid.  The UE-Mid in Gaurdian blue is majestic..... its so bright, beautiful and uniform, even before it gets fully dark out.  I find 32" the perfect blade size for almost any application but of course others will have different needs/requirements.

So, IMO, UE-Midrange is the way to go!!!  My next Saber(still deciding will be in Violet Amethyst with the UE-Mid blade.



Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Cyclops942 on August 22, 2019, 07:36:24 PM
So far, my favorite blade for looks and usability is the UltraEdge Midgrade in the 32" size.  My AEON L4 has the standard mid grade blade in Fire Orange and while it is very bright I dont think it looks as "real" as the UE-Mid blad.  I dont care for how the standard blade makes it  fairly easy to see the rolled up cellophane/whatever.  The silver appearence isnt as nice as the white polycarbonate look of the UE-Mid.  The UE-Mid in Gaurdian blue is majestic..... its so bright, beautiful and uniform, even before it gets fully dark out.  I find 32" the perfect blade size for almost any application but of course others will have different needs/requirements.

So, IMO, UE-Midrange is the way to go!!!  My next Saber(still deciding will be in Violet Amethyst with the UE-Mid blade.



I hear you, but for my money, I still favor the HG blades, simply because I know I'm a klutz, and I feel that I would be prone to swinging too hard when dueling, and might damage the blade.  Of course, buying a few Grab Bag blades (which are a REALLY good deal, IMHO) to keep as spares reduces that risk, but I'm willing to shell out the extra money for the upgrade when buying a saber, just to add that extra bit of mental comfort.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: BenA718 on September 07, 2019, 05:20:33 PM
This thread was very helpful, thanks. Going with HGUE for my first saber!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: KaiserSosay on September 08, 2019, 09:02:07 AM
Heavy grade, is thick clear PVC with illuminating film inside. The film illuminates and the thick clear wall of the blade  does not. The effect is, a blade that appears thin and very, very bright.  Without the power on, the blade appears silver because of the film.

 The heavy grade ultra edge blade appears white when the power is off. It is just as thick as the regular heavy grade blade. Both are great for dueling or sparring.  The ultra edge blade however, to my eye, illuminates with color better. The white in the PVC or the coating inside, I don't know what they use, but it illuminates everything.  You do not see a thin film surrounded by clear blade. The whole blade is lit.

 I feel I'm failing with this explanation.

One is a clear light bulb. You can see the filament inside light up.

The other is a white light bulb. You don't see the filament.  You just see light emitting from the edge of the bulb itself.

 Mid grade blades are the same just thinner PVC.  So they might be brighter but I can't tell.  You stare at the blades and let me know if you see a difference!! Heavy or mid. Ultra of regular.  Both are personal preference  honestly.  I always get heavy grade myself.  The other is dependent on the hilt.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Makubex on November 03, 2019, 01:41:23 PM
Alrighty!!! Now.... schools in session! I actually had the same questions.. but the furthering searches and the further I read people kept saying personal preference because of comments here and there.... now don’t get me wrong... but personal preference is everything.. it’s what makes our sabers ours. Now onto specifics the mid grade blades are less thick than the heavy grades which are apparently double the thickness... I remember seeing a measurement analysis of it but can’t remember where it was.... now the sacrifice is honestly dependant on everything regardless of it being ultra edge mid grade and mid grade... the reason I’m saying this is because... 1.are you going to use rgbw or rgb or tri Cree? Out of all the forums and forum posts I’ve read (not saying I’ve read every single one of them) when they’ve mentioned their preference they only mention uehg uemidgrade mid grade or heavy grade... but non of their opinions ever mentioned if they’re using rgbw rgb tri Cree... which in my opinion just killed the whole “based on preference” so.... I dug even further and even made a post and I finally remembered a year ago when I first joined the community back when I was just getting into saber combat there was a person who goes by the name Darth Cephelus who when I was searching for the best company to buy sabers from (we all know ultra sabers is Dope and I can say that with confidence cause i researches this for months before my accident) and I remembered a YT vid he had made about blades.. now since I mentioned you’re going for an rgbw ( I concur on this pick btw since I’m going for orange yellow myself)
From Deep’s explanation on white’s and non.... and with Darth Cephelus’s explanation... I realized you could counter the dimming effect a ueHg blade did to regular rgb and single led sabers.... and a few other things you can do by going regular mid or Hg and still get the effects of a fully emitted blade.. without needing to go UE... this would benefit those who went rgb and or single LED for their selections.... so in reality if ur going tri Cree and u don’t mind sacrificing FoC that would be the most notable brightest selection u could go with but as u mentioned ur on rgbw which is awesome on its own as well especially cause of the extra white colour glow potential to help penetrate through. Now if my explanation is incorrect in anyway please correct me I might have repeated myself a lot but my final words are since u went rgbw and if ur not scared of doing some grime work on the blade when u get it I’d go reg HG and put some elbow power into it since regardless of ur getting a HG ur gunna wanna clash sabers and wear and tear does happen anyways make it worth the effects.... now if ur going for just fools play and light choreographed sessions and for pictures and videos go with uemg but as I said if u wanna put some elbow power into this get a mg just a mg a few tricks and I can get an even brighter colour shown through with the effects of uemg without sacrificing any light loss...... hope this helps... if you’re confused in anyways just send me a pm or anyone for that matter even for debates I love those! It’s how we learn... and also Credits to Darth Cephelus and Deep for very informative information and reviews! I wouldn’t have been able to figure this out myself otherwise! Cheers! And MTFBWY!

Ps. Sorry if I rambled and or w.e didn’t make sense or other things it’s 5:40am >.>


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: 4Drumz on December 23, 2019, 07:05:01 AM
Hey Guys - brand new here.  Looking to get my first UltraSaber.  I'm looking at the Black GrandMaster saber with Diamond RGBW controller with an UEHG blade, but I was curious if I purchase an extra UEMG blade if I can switch them out for sparing/showing?  I am still not sure if I'm going with the grandmaster, or the Fallen combat ready yet either.  With the sale they have going, it seems like a good time to purchase my first!  Thanks for any help/advice you can provide!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Tai Chi Chuan Wijchen on December 23, 2019, 09:54:12 AM
Hey Guys - brand new here.  Looking to get my first UltraSaber.  I'm looking at the Black GrandMaster saber with Diamond RGBW controller with an UEHG blade, but I was curious if I purchase an extra UEMG blade if I can switch them out for sparing/showing?  I am still not sure if I'm going with the grandmaster, or the Fallen combat ready yet either.  With the sale they have going, it seems like a good time to purchase my first!  Thanks for any help/advice you can provide!

Switching blades is no problem at all. They are secured with one or two retentionscrews. You just need the right sized imbus (just order one with the blade, 1USD is really not the big investment and it always helps to have a spare). Switching blades is then done in less then a minute. I don't know wich color your lightsaber will be, but the general opinion is that reds and oranges look great with standard blades and the other ones with Ultraedges. I'm a big fan of the heavygrades for the simple fact that I'm always worried to brake a blade during spinning and with sparring you definately want a heavy grade.

Have fun with your new saber, enjoy and welcome to the addiction!

Pictures and video's of your new saber are much appreciated!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: 4Drumz on December 23, 2019, 03:16:27 PM
Thank you TCCW - but one more question, sorry :-D. What is an imbus?  I'm looking more towards green/blue for a blade color (looking forward to see what I can play with for the diamond controller).  Looking forward to getting into the club!  Been a huge star wars fan for pretty much my entire life but now finally looking to get some toys to play with.  The heavy grade seems to be the choice for sparring/learning, and then taking the mid-grade to events and such.  Thanks for the help again!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Razzorr on December 24, 2019, 05:37:51 AM
To change blades you need an allen hex wrench.  Imbus tool is an allen wrench in polish going by what I looked up.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Tai Chi Chuan Wijchen on December 24, 2019, 08:45:48 AM
Thnx Razorr, I thought imbus was an English word as well.
Fun to know it's Polish as well, but I'm Dutch so now we know a translation of an allen hex wrench into two more languages.  ;D


Anyway, 4Drumz, you might want to do a quick forum search on bladecolors for a diamond controller. I have no experience with them, but I do recall people advising about colors. Something with colors wich are near eachother in the colorspectrum and the way they react to eachother with flash on clash and stuff like that...
It would be sad to see you order an expensive diamond controlled blade, but not get the most out of it.



Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Razzorr on December 24, 2019, 10:41:38 PM
I have 2 sabers. Both have the diamond controller.  LOL will have a 3rd whenever it gets sent out.  I just could not make up my mind on what color I wanted when I got my first saber.  I was looking at the emerald for color then came the sound part.  After time of looking and looking I figured the price for the diamond was not that much higher and have full control over everything.  LOL if I only could have made my mind up on color I would have spent a lot less on a saber.  So then I wanted another one well I got spoiled on the diamond controller so the second one is also.  Good grief I did the same thing on the third one I ordered.  One thing I like is on one of my settings I have the blade at idle   fading colors. There are so many things you can do. Now if it was to end up a shelf queen then no way would I have got a diamond controller.

I have 1 regular, 2 regular heavy and 1 Ultraedge heavy.  The regular to regular heavy you can tell the heavy is thicker and looks like the light in the blade is thinner.  The heavy Ultraedge does not do that.  With the sabers off the regular blades look silver the Ultraedge looks white.

Tai Chi Chuan Wijchen I knew that you where talking about a hex wrench, but was not sure about imbus.  Google came up with it being Polish for hex wrench.  English can be a pain LOL.  U.K. English to U.S. English is even different on some things.  I am in the U.S. always have been and still at my old age find English to be a pain sometimes with word meanings.         


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: 4Drumz on December 25, 2019, 04:40:18 AM
haha ok, thanks guys!!  I already have hex wrenches, and good to know that imbus is the same!  Thanks for the extra info Razzorr and the help Tai Chi Chuan Wijchen.

I ordered the Grandmaster with the diamond controller with the UEHG blade with it, and an extra UEMG blade as well.  I'm super stoked to get it and start playing with it.  Excited to see all the diff features and settings I can change.  Once I get it and setup, I'll make sure to come back and post pics/video!  Thanks again!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Tai Chi Chuan Wijchen on December 25, 2019, 08:08:51 AM
Your welcome and Merry Christmas!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Cyclops942 on December 25, 2019, 05:14:00 PM
haha ok, thanks guys!!  I already have hex wrenches, and good to know that imbus is the same!  Thanks for the extra info Razzorr and the help Tai Chi Chuan Wijchen.

I ordered the Grandmaster with the diamond controller with the UEHG blade with it, and an extra UEMG blade as well.  I'm super stoked to get it and start playing with it.  Excited to see all the diff features and settings I can change.  Once I get it and setup, I'll make sure to come back and post pics/video!  Thanks again!
The hex wrenches you need will be the 5/64-inch wrench for the blade retention screw (or screws), and 9/64-inch for the Covertec wheel, if you have one.  DO NOT USE METRIC HEX WRENCHES!  Trying to use a metric hex wrench in these will strip the screw and/or the wrench, and it won’t be fun.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: 4Drumz on December 25, 2019, 06:36:27 PM
Great!  Thanks for exact size.  Appreciate the help!  Have a Merry Christmas everyone!


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Sakul on January 05, 2020, 08:29:28 PM
I have a question. Ive got two sabers, both from the express checkout, so I didn't choose a blade type. I want to get the same blade type for my next one, but I don't know which that is. So what I guess I'm trying to ask is what is the default blade type for the express checkout?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Maestro Jones on January 05, 2020, 08:58:34 PM
I have a question. Ive got two sabers, both from the express checkout, so I didn't choose a blade type. I want to get the same blade type for my next one, but I don't know which that is. So what I guess I'm trying to ask is what is the default blade type for the express checkout?

It should be the 36" ultraedge heavy grade with the rounded tip.  At least that is what the express pages say.  I didn't look at all of them but I did look at different ones from each price range and they all look to be the same.  Can you post a picture just to make sure.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Tai Chi Chuan Wijchen on January 06, 2020, 01:34:01 PM
You can unscrew the blade and see what the thickness is.
From the top of my head, I believe midgrade has  1,3mm thickness and heavygrade 1,9mm thickness.

Or you can look up the weight of the blades on this forum and put yours on the kitchenscale.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Cyclops942 on January 06, 2020, 07:58:41 PM
You can unscrew the blade and see what the thickness is.
From the top of my head, I believe midgrade has  1,3mm thickness and heavygrade 1,9mm thickness.

Or you can look up the weight of the blades on this forum and put yours on the kitchenscale.

And for those who don’t speak metric, that’s 1/16” and 1/8” on the blade thickness.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: neocaster on January 14, 2020, 08:01:47 PM
I don't know if the following method is UltraSaber endorsed, but while falling down a YouTube rabbit hole, I found a reviewer who covered multiple blades from UltraSabers and other outlets. Their final recommendation was that scuffing/scratching the outside of an UltraSabers standard (non-UltraEdge) blade acted as a second light diffuser, carrying illumination closer to the outer edge of the blade with a less noticeable "dimming" effect.

If this isn't recommended, please flag/remove or PM me and I'll delete the message.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: asinasin on February 20, 2020, 06:52:30 AM
What is the weight and thickness of the Ultraedge heavy grade ultrasaber blades?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Tazflyr on February 21, 2020, 04:12:49 PM
What is the weight and thickness of the Ultraedge heavy grade ultrasaber blades?

Try using the search option for the forums. There was a post about this somewhere just within the last 2 days.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Reg5i3 on January 11, 2021, 11:43:36 AM
Personally I always go mid grade because I never battle heavily and I like my blades brighter. I did go heavy grade for a mystery box so I could wack things with it. When it comes to blade for different colours my opinion is:

Blazing Red - always regular
Fire orange - I prefer regular over ultraedge
Consular green - I prefer ultraedge
Guardian blue - either looks good but I like ultraedge
Arctic blue - ultraedge looks better
Adegan silver - always ultraedge
Violet amethyst - I slightly prefer regular over ultraedge
Blue violet amethyst - I prefer regular
Sun riders destiny - ultraedge looks better
Banes heart - regular blade
Hot pink - regular blade
Pyrestone orange - either look good but I slightly prefer regular blade
Sentinel yellow - always ultraedge

These may not be what others like but they are my personal opinion. Hope it helps.



Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Jedi_Phoenix on January 11, 2021, 09:15:56 PM
Ultraedge gives the blade color a fuller look from the center to the edges, but which is better is a matter of personal taste; I like the regular for its "steel bar" look when the saber is turned off.

As for midgrade vs heavy, my dueling is pretty much just my kids and I messing around in the yard, and midgrade is more than good enough as far as durability goes.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: Hades_Darkstar on November 18, 2023, 01:25:16 AM
What is the standing of the Neopixel String Blade compared to the others in regard to using it in a battle?


Title: Re: What's the difference between the Blade types? What's the best blade type?
Post by: scifidude79 on November 18, 2023, 04:18:55 AM
What is the standing of the Neopixel String Blade compared to the others in regard to using it in a battle?

It's a midgrade blade. So, it would work for light contact dueling, but not heavy contact dueling.