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Title: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Isola815 on January 02, 2017, 12:04:02 PM
Greetings saber-ites!

Seeing as my Catalyst mod thread is very secretive, I am going to let everyone follow along with this customization/destruction "build".

Some of you may have seen my review video of this hilt and know that I didn't like it for a few reasons. Anyone who watched my video can probably skip ahead, for anyone curious, my PERSONAL issues were as follows:

I was most disappointed with the covertech wheel being right in the middle of the hilt and killing any chance of comfortable grip. I requested a different position because I knew it was in the middle of my grip point from looking at placement on photos, but I was not aware you could not request a different covertech position. It's "one size fits all" so to speak. Had I known that, I would not have ordered this hilt in the first place. But I rushed in and bought it. And even paid extra to get Sunrider's Destiny because I thought it would look bad-ass in this saber. So... "a fool an his money" as they say. For me, to remove the covertech and install it somewhere else leaving a hole in the hilt, or having to put some sort of scew or plug or whatever in the hole and still have it stand out and look silly, was just not an option. For the price of the saber, plus international shipping, having to "fix" it was a hell of a let down.

I also didn't like the single little window where the blade color came out one side. It seemed cool in photos and reviews, but in person I found it to be very tacky and not well thought out or executed.

Apart from that, I loved the SRD color, loved the overall design and feel of the hilt, but just didn't want a shiny and wonderful saber with a random screw hole in the middle of it looking like someone made a mistake. So my plan was to kill it. If it was going to have a hole in it, sweet Jesus, it was going to earn that hole and it was going to be there for a damn good reason. This thing is going to look like it went through TWO Clone Wars. It's going to look like it got handed down to Jedi after Jedi, all who had their asses handed to them. A cursed saber, so to speak. A Prophecy that "misread, could have been".

So come with me on a journey as I "misread" my prophecy all over the place. And be careful not to get any in your eyes!

Dr. Emel and I sizing things up on the work bench.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170102_181552_zpsnop0iptq.jpg)


The story behind this saber is that the crystal overloaded and blew out the side of the hilt, killing it's owner and caused the internals to get so hot that they melted the circuitry and well as started to melt the outside of the hilt. The saber then got dragged around, lost, bought, sold, stolen, and handed off through many people who didn't know how to fix it.

A young apprentice who's master had been killed before he could teach him everything (including how to construct a lightsaber) bought it from a scrap dealer and hunted the black markets until he found someone selling Kyber crystals. Knowing that his crystal would call to him when he found it, he visited multiple Kyber dealers until he found one that while probably not THE right one, still registered with him to a certain degree.

He learned what he could from older smugglers and traders who'd witnessed the fall of the Jedi Knights. Bought ancient texts said to have been of Sith origin, and cobbled together as much knowledge as he could to build, or at least piece together, his lightsaber.


The plan is that the hole where the covertech wheel WAS in the grips, is going to have a wire going from it, up to the hole where the LED goes, under the gaping maw in the side of the saber neck. This saber will still be mostly silver apart from the dirt, grime and carbon scoring it will have, so I thinking a red wire. It will be a bypass wire of sorts, powering the new magnetic containment field unit. As the saber inside is clogged with old slag and debris from when it failed, not all the new components fit properly. Especially as some aren't for a lightsaber, but tailored and tweaked to "do the job".

After about a half hour of cutting, sanding, grinding, milling, snapping things with pliers and wire wheeling I am done with the first pass. And also out of daylight. I will get back to it either tomorrow or the next day and start to add more melted sections with the wire wheel, and fill out the cracks near the emitter a bit more.


(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170102_191342_zpsrqdkhmbv.jpg)




(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170102_191353_zpsu4updtqx.jpg)





(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170102_191423_zpsvw8ywtcy.jpg)


(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170102_191426_zpsr1leuz0s.jpg)


(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170102_191413_zpstsyrmgbo.jpg)



Because the old crystal blew up the side wall, you will be able to see the new crystal inside the hilt.


(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170102_195015_zpstvmhl0mv.jpg)

And while I will loose some of my SRD color by doing this, that's ok. I have decided to keep SRD in my back pocket until I find a truly worthy hilt for that amazing color.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170102_192715_zpszdnwuryp.jpg)


That's all I have for now. I hope some of you enjoy this thread as I make my way through this project. I will update as I go  8)


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Rapine on January 02, 2017, 02:50:55 PM
Oh my!  You certainly did destroy that hilt Isola. ;D

I'd imagine it's going to look sensational, when you're done though.

Have a force point from me, even though a small part of my eternal soul has been forever extinguished. :P


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Isola815 on January 02, 2017, 03:02:29 PM
Oh my!  You certainly did destroy that hilt Isola. ;D

I'd imagine it's going to look sensational, when you're done though.

Have a force point from me, even though a small part of my eternal soul has been forever extinguished. :P

LMAO! Thanks Lord Rapine  ;D

I did warn in my video that I was going to destroy this SoB if I kept it ;) I wonder how many people that viewed and didn't reply had to go and find a hug somewhere?  :o

Just think. I haven't even busted out the hammer or dragged it behind the car yet ;) Stay strong!


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: scifidude79 on January 02, 2017, 03:06:39 PM
I remember your review and how disappointed you were with that Covertec location.  I like how, instead of going off on Ultra Sabers or anything like that, you're just making the hilt into a 100% original piece that is sure to be a masterpiece once it's done.  The idea and the story behind this are both great, and your work on it so far is phenomenal.  I'm really looking forward to seeing it once it's done.  In the meantime, have a point from me as well for the fantastic work thus far.


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Isola815 on January 02, 2017, 03:16:52 PM
I remember your review and how disappointed you were with that Covertec location.  I like how, instead of going off on Ultra Sabers or anything like that, you're just making the hilt into a 100% original piece that is sure to be a masterpiece once it's done.  The idea and the story behind this are both great, and your work on it so far is phenomenal.  I'm really looking forward to seeing it once it's done.  In the meantime, have a point from me as well for the fantastic work thus far.

Thanks scifidude79! I hope you enjoy it when I'm done :) point back at you for your enthusiasm about my destructive nature  :P

No point screaming at Ultra Sabers about it  8) We had a civil discussion, and we came to an agreement for my next order. They left me happy about the way my concerns were handled, and Marlena personally said she was very thankful for my patience and sorry for the mix up. I never once got a copy/paste email or reply so I always felt like I was still being valued as a customer even if I was coming off as very nitpicky about my two hilts. Karma finds you eventually, always better to go about things calm and collected!


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Lord Bladewraith on January 02, 2017, 03:38:40 PM
Hey, Isola, I like the approach you're taking, the outcome so far and that you're inviting us to join you for this ride! Love the storyline and can't wait to see what comes next. While it may appear that you're destroying that saber, to me it looks like "you've got to break it down some to be able to build it back up", like a Phoenix rising from the ashes. Point incoming.  8)


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Isola815 on January 02, 2017, 03:59:00 PM
Hey, Isola, I like the approach you're taking, the outcome so far and that you're inviting us to join you for this ride! Love the storyline and can't wait to see what comes next. While it may appear that you're destroying that saber, to me it looks like "you've got to break it down some to be able to build it back up", like a Phoenix rising from the ashes. Point incoming.  8)

Thank you,  Sir :)

I'll be sure and keep you all posted on the progress  8)


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Lord Canterbury on January 02, 2017, 05:29:30 PM
Nice work!  That's an outstanding first effort for that type of battle damage . . .

Point coming your way.


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Isola815 on January 02, 2017, 05:53:44 PM
Nice work!  That's an outstanding first effort for that type of battle damage . . .

Point coming your way.

Thanks! I wish I'd had a bit more time available to me so I could have finished off the fracture lines, but I didn't want to attempt it in low light and make a complete hash of it.


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Taegin Roan on January 02, 2017, 09:16:47 PM
That looks very damaged, but it still looks awesome. Nice job. I love hearing (and creating) backstories, so that was really cool.

like a Phoenix rising from the ashes.

Also, if your into naming your hilts, Phoenix might be an the perfect name for this saber. Just a thought.

Anyway, great job, and you may have a point from me.


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Corwyn VonBeck on January 02, 2017, 10:15:30 PM
LMAO! Thanks Lord Rapine  ;D

I did warn in my video that I was going to destroy this SoB if I kept it ;) I wonder how many people that viewed and didn't reply had to go and find a hug somewhere?  :o

Just think. I haven't even busted out the hammer or dragged it behind the car yet ;) Stay strong!

Now there is a man dedicated to his craft! rather than drag it, how about just drop it on the interstate or something for a few hours... lol

That is some awesome looking damage you've accomplished there!


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Rapine on January 02, 2017, 10:27:14 PM
Do they have interstates in Aus?

Hey ya Isola.  You ought to do something to it that could be done in Australia. :)

Like let some salties mangle it for a while...lol


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Corwyn VonBeck on January 02, 2017, 10:38:27 PM
Do they have interstates in Aus?

They have states, so therefore by definition, have interstates (Interstate Highways to give them their full name)


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Rapine on January 02, 2017, 10:58:48 PM
Well, ok...

We don't refer to our roads as "inter-province" though, so I just wondered if they called them something different.  :)

Technical much Corwyn?  :P

SHEESH!

;D

-1


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Isola815 on January 02, 2017, 11:00:34 PM
That looks very damaged, but it still looks awesome. Nice job. I love hearing (and creating) backstories, so that was really cool.

Also, if your into naming your hilts, Phoenix might be an the perfect name for this saber. Just a thought.

Anyway, great job, and you may have a point from me.

It already has a name, The Misread Prophecy :)

It's still an US Prophecy V3 that I am just making a different version of, so I feel it unfair to change the name of someone else's design and product. Just like my Catalyst will retain it's model title in it's new name. I will add to their name after putting my tweak on them, but would only come up with a "new" name if I was building something from scratch :)

Now there is a man dedicated to his craft! rather than drag it, how about just drop it on the interstate or something for a few hours... lol

That is some awesome looking damage you've accomplished there!

If it gets squished I may have to try and find a 2D light to fight in there  ;D

Do they have interstates in Aus?

Hey ya Isola.  You ought to do something to it that could be done in Australia. :)

Like let some salties mangle it for a while...lol

There is a crocodile and reptile park not far from my house. But it's the freshwater crocodiles that are the really scary ones! I'd never be brave enough to get it back if I threw it into one of those pits  :o

They have states, so therefore by definition, have interstates (Interstate Highways to give them their full name)

We have Motorways, Highways and State Routes. People get really butt-hurt if you call them Interstates or Freeways for some reason... even though everyone knows what you mean.  ::)


Thanks everyone for the feedback :)


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Corwyn VonBeck on January 03, 2017, 12:57:20 AM
Well, ok...

We don't refer to our roads as "inter-province" though, so I just wondered if they called them something different.  :)

Technical much Corwyn?  :P

SHEESH!

;D

-1

More pedantic than technical, but I'll let you slide this once :P (-1)


If it gets squished I may have to try and find a 2D light to fight in there  ;D

No worries mate, you just find a metal bar to fix inside it so squishing doesnt happen, only damage!

We have Motorways, Highways and State Routes. People get really butt-hurt if you call them Interstates or Freeways for some reason... even though everyone knows what you mean.  ::)

hehehe, Australia does seem to like to mix & match US & British terms... I can never remember whats what, but I can take down LR on a technicality any day lol!

Looking forward to seeing more of this, along with your other project!


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Taegin Roan on January 03, 2017, 06:51:25 AM
It already has a name, The Misread Prophecy :)

Oh yeah, haha, I just realized that.


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Isola815 on January 03, 2017, 07:06:47 AM
hehehe, Australia does seem to like to mix & match US & British terms... I can never remember whats what, but I can take down LR on a technicality any day lol!

Looking forward to seeing more of this, along with your other project!

Yep, they mix and match stuff and have no idea what comes from where, and then get upset by all the "Americanisms" while they drive their Ford down to McDonald's, enjoy a Coke with their meal, and then head home to watch a Hollywood blockbuster... it makes my brain hurt.

I know what you guys mean as most of my dialect leans more towards American English than British English. So most of the time I will use terms you are familiar with. If I ever say something weird or if you think it's Australian slang, feel free to ask me what the hell I am talking about  ;D

This project should get a bit more done tomorrow. Today was taken up by far more time than I thought it was going to. The Catalyst however, is going to be a while off yet. My switch is still coming from the UK and the paint I am using is SUPER soft and needs several days cure time before you can handle it without ruining it. Hopefully by the end of this week I can start fine brushing the accents and then start shooting clear on to it!


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Corwyn VonBeck on January 03, 2017, 04:23:20 PM
Yep, they mix and match stuff and have no idea what comes from where, and then get upset by all the "Americanisms" while they drive their Ford down to McDonald's, enjoy a Coke with their meal, and then head home to watch a Hollywood blockbuster... it makes my brain hurt.

I know what you guys mean as most of my dialect leans more towards American English than British English. So most of the time I will use terms you are familiar with. If I ever say something weird or if you think it's Australian slang, feel free to ask me what the hell I am talking about  ;D

This project should get a bit more done tomorrow. Today was taken up by far more time than I thought it was going to. The Catalyst however, is going to be a while off yet. My switch is still coming from the UK and the paint I am using is SUPER soft and needs several days cure time before you can handle it without ruining it. Hopefully by the end of this week I can start fine brushing the accents and then start shooting clear on to it!

As a Brit living in the USA with about a dozen good friends in various parts of Australia, I think I should be mostly good... I'm perpetually confused anyway, so no worries there :)


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: RevanReborn on January 03, 2017, 09:32:53 PM
WOah!  Holy sweet moly that's some serious weathering!  Awesome work man, that looks phenomenal :).  Very cool concept/ backstory as well! 


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Isola815 on January 04, 2017, 09:59:31 AM
OK I did all my final passes today with the dremel, so all my cutting, milling, boring, melting and sanding is done. Including elongating my switch recess.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170104_191626_zps199rk7se.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170104_191628_zpsbobheiky.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170104_191631_zpskjofhqsm.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170104_191635_zpsqrwkbodt.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170104_191542_zpsad8bjivb.jpg)

Why did I do that to the switch hole? Well because I'm building a switch of course :)


(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170104_200200_zpsdok6gbcd.jpg)

To me there is no point "customizing" something if I just go and bolt all the same parts back on!! Only got about 10 minutes into this, but it shouldn't be a very big job.


For now the hilt is soaking in a tub of drain cleaner as per a tip from Lord Canterbury (thank you once again) to add some more texture.


(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170104_192027_zpso1tldlhd.jpg)

 I probably won't get a chance to get back to this one now until the weekend. Will keep you all posted!


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Rapine on January 04, 2017, 10:06:47 AM
Looks excellent.

So looking forward to seeing this come together. :)

Way to go Isola.

+1


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: scifidude79 on January 04, 2017, 03:37:57 PM
Looking fantastic.  I like that you're building your own switch.  Can't wait to see more of that.

For now the hilt is soaking in a tub of drain cleaner as per a tip from Lord Canterbury (thank you once again) to add some more texture.

I look forward to seeing how it looks after it comes out of there.  Lord C is full of good advice and ideas.  8)


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Corwyn VonBeck on January 04, 2017, 04:41:01 PM
That is one messed up,  beaten down, knackered old relic all right! unless my eyes are playing tricks, its even a little bent out of shape!
You are certainly making it fit the backstory with a vengeance! impressive work Isola. Have a point or 7!


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Lord Canterbury on January 04, 2017, 05:00:30 PM
Looks great!

Just make sure you start checking after a few hours! You can always do more if you aren't satisfied with the pitting but you don't want to do too much and ruin the threading etc.

Speaking of - a lubricant on the threads would be a very good idea before you put a pommel back on . . .


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Isola815 on January 05, 2017, 03:15:32 AM
Looks great!

Just make sure you start checking after a few hours! You can always do more if you aren't satisfied with the pitting but you don't want to do too much and ruin the threading etc.

Speaking of - a lubricant on the threads would be a very good idea before you put a pommel back on . . .

Actually I did the total opposite of this. I looked it up and researched it before I started. Found out if you leave it long enough it will eat RIGHT THROUGH the metal. So, me being the destructive psyxhopath that I am... I left it over night ;) pics to come when I get home from work in 4/5 hours.

The pommel is currently soaking at work and I am keeping a close eye on it so as not to totally destroy the thread.


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Isola815 on January 05, 2017, 12:09:58 PM
Ok, time for some pic heavy action:


This was when I pulled it out of the drain cleaner after I let it soak for 12/13 hours.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_064952_zpsft7ogqjf.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_064954_zpsnrsx8yo3.jpg)

And just as I'd hoped it would do on the thinner walls of the grips

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_065008_zps6l2mlpjp.jpg)

and yes, Corwyn VonBeck she's a little "out of shape" you could say ;)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_065025_zpsq6d8zegn.jpg)

The pommel still fits though! Don't worry :)

RIP little lizard dude who climbed in for a drink of water at some point in the night

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_064922_zps8pmvrdbj.jpg)


So it was a cool color when I pulled it out of the dip, but I didn't really want it that dark. Luckily it lightened up when it dried:

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_174837_zpsllxo8gdn.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_174845_zps2hanqqss.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_174859_zps2wx9gg8b.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_174901_zpsh1tpgymo.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_174903_zps8y0jl1cv.jpg)


Time to buff back some of that furry glittery finish so I can get some more depth on this thing!

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_181220_zpsldy7xesy.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_181222_zpshyv6yy3p.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_181223_zpsdfzquid3.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_181225_zps3a20b68g.jpg)

Hmm... nice texture, but too shiny. Luckily I've been been keeping my car very, very dirty just for this.

Now I can finally wash my car again. I've been hanging on to all my brake dust for a reason ;)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_185300_zpsqkh0yr8n.jpg)


(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_185531_zpsscbjpvrb.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_185534_zpsyrdoy1kt.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_185536_zpsobue9ypo.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_185540_zps9zgjy9qc.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_185546_zps2ibopyxb.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_185608_zpsateewqir.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_185615_zps1ddqarcx.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_185620_zpscdyh8lir.jpg)


Nice! Now, time to give it a bit of contrast.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_193037_zpsnky4l2kj.jpg)

Turns out I gave my fingers a bit of contrast too... whoops. Oh well, I'm sure what doesn't wash off tonight will wear/wash off at work tomorrow when I'm wrist deep in engines.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_201116_zps6vz8pyxc.jpg)


(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_201129_zpsryknk9ab.jpg)


(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_201143_zpsrnvmmxmt.jpg)


(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_201213_zpscokdxafm.jpg)


(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_201255_zpscpsasqja.jpg)


(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_201330_zpsbzx2in9w.jpg)


(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_201400_zpsfnbxijra.jpg)


(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_201409_zpskgtnapgs.jpg)




OK! Sorry for the epic pic post... but I did more than I thought I would today.


Hoping to get my switch plates finished tomorrow, and I also have to make a blade plug and custom (ish) blade. I'm kind of hoping I can get it finished this weekend, but I'm not making any promises. I'm thinking more likely next weekend will be when I'm done. But time will tell.

Thanks everyone for the points, there are some coming back your way!



Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Rapine on January 05, 2017, 12:22:04 PM
Wow Isola!

Truly amazing work there.

That thing certainly does look like it's been through a very rough place. :)

Great job my man.  Awesome idea with the brake dust. :)

+1 for cool. ;D

*SAFETY ADVISORY*

Please wear proper hand and eye protection when handling caustic substances.  They work best on organic matter - like skin. :)


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Isola815 on January 05, 2017, 12:38:38 PM
Wow Isola!

Truly amazing work there.

That thing certainly does look like it's been through a very rough place. :)

Great job my man.  Awesome idea with the brake dust. :)

+1 for cool. ;D

*SAFETY ADVISORY*

Please wear proper hand and eye protection when handling caustic substances.  They work best on organic matter - like skin. :)

Oh please! If I don't wear gloves at work, I'm not gonna wear them at home lmao  ;D I just washed up really well. Drain cleaner is very low on the list of things that try to kill you in Australia hahaha

I did wear safety gear when using all the dremel tools though! That's much scarier than drain cleaner.


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: RevanReborn on January 05, 2017, 01:37:21 PM
Coming along great!  Wicked idea with the brake dust. 

When you say make a new switch, you mean you're actually going to make a momentary switch?! 


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Isola815 on January 05, 2017, 01:52:27 PM
I am using an existing on/off switch, but the sort I wanted doesn't exist. So I am building a plate that will operate the switch that will be hidden in the hilt and very much not intended for this purpose. Hard to describe but will be clear as day when I post up the pictures.

 I need this thing to look old and cobbled together, so a shiny AV switch or pristine new plastic switch was a definite no no.


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Lord Canterbury on January 05, 2017, 02:22:20 PM
Yep - that's a weathered hilt all right!

Nice work!


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Corwyn VonBeck on January 05, 2017, 04:57:13 PM
wow... I saw a complaint once about the thinness of the walls at the recessed grips, but that worked heavily to your advantage here! I love how eaten away things are after that soak... really enhances the whole "Ancient Relic" backstory... although "Ancient Relic that was accidentally dropped in a volcano a few times, and lost at sea at least once" may be more fitting. A more extreme weathering I dont think we will ever see! awesome work man.


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: scifidude79 on January 05, 2017, 05:11:59 PM
OK! Sorry for the epic pic post... but I did more than I thought I would today.

Don't ever apologize for awesome.  I can't speak for anyone else, but I didn't want the pics to end.  You're truly creating a masterpiece here.

I'm going to have to try this drain cleaner trick sometime.  Is there a particular brand anyone recommends, or is it just doer's choice?  Also, did you dillute it at all, or is it just straight drain cleaner?


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Calculon on January 05, 2017, 06:02:21 PM
Holy damn! What a transformation! Nice job with the weathering. It looks layered like abuse from different encounters. Plusages!


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Taegin Roan on January 05, 2017, 09:05:03 PM
I think that saber is now too beautiful to even think of dueling with. But man, what a great job you've done at killing that thing. Cant wait to see the finished product.

point to you


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Isola815 on January 05, 2017, 10:31:07 PM
Don't ever apologize for awesome.  I can't speak for anyone else, but I didn't want the pics to end.  You're truly creating a masterpiece here.

I'm going to have to try this drain cleaner trick sometime.  Is there a particular brand anyone recommends, or is it just doer's choice?  Also, did you dillute it at all, or is it just straight drain cleaner?

I used Draino brand pellets. You just mix it with cold water and it dissolves. Do it outside though because the gas from the chemical reaction will fill a house or workshop very quickly.

I used one full container lid of pellets with 1.5 gallons of water. VERY strong mix. Use less if you don't want it as severe as mine ;)

Also thanks to everyone for the comments :)


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: scifidude79 on January 06, 2017, 04:36:01 AM
Thanks a lot for the info on the drain cleaner.  One thing I love about this forum is the never ceasing flow of great ideas.  :)


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Jeadus Teal on January 06, 2017, 09:48:59 PM
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170102_181552_zpsnop0iptq.jpg)


Wow it is amazing how your saber has gone from this top image to this incredibly detailed custom with all the damage and weathering.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170102_191342_zpsrqdkhmbv.jpg)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170102_191423_zpsvw8ywtcy.jpg)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_064952_zpsft7ogqjf.jpg)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_174845_zps2hanqqss.jpg)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_201143_zpsrnvmmxmt.jpg)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170105_201330_zpsbzx2in9w.jpg)


I like that you are adding a crystal inside the saber too.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170102_195015_zpstvmhl0mv.jpg)

Kudos for showing your progress for your custom saber. It looks incredible Isola815 and a point to you.


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Isola815 on January 07, 2017, 03:28:17 PM


I like that you are adding a crystal inside the saber too.

([url]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170102_195015_zpstvmhl0mv.jpg[/url])

Kudos for showing your progress for your custom saber. It looks incredible Isola815 and a point to you.




Thanks :) It won't be a full-on crystal chamber. Just a nice little nod to it :) point right back at you for taking the time to look through my thread, thanks :)





I haven't been able to do any work on the saber so far this weekend as I had to get a bunch of furniture from Ikea, build it, move old furniture, move the stuff, clean... you all know how it goes. It's a time drainer :(

I need to run out and get some matte clear. I only have super high gloss on hand at the moment :( I also need to make a trip to a 12v store and pick up some clear speaker wire. So I may spend most of my day tomorrow running around getting things for this project (that I forgot to get before I started) instead of spending it on actually doing this project. Poor form on my part.  I'm hoping I can at least get my blade plug made, and blade modified. If I can get those two done I will consider my efforts from the other day as part of my weekend work, and therefore my weekend a success  ;D


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Jediseth on January 07, 2017, 04:28:19 PM
I love crystal chambers. I can't wait to see it when your completely finished.


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Isola815 on January 08, 2017, 12:57:37 PM
I really only got about 15 minutes to do anything sorry guys. Here's a few pics:

Started work on a custom blade plug. I had a crappy midgrade lying around that (unknowingly) volunteered as tribute.

Hacked a piece off for the plug:

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170108_170355_zps9qg9swir.jpg)

Notched it:

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170108_204138_zpsfljemddi.jpg)

Notched the blade as well:

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170108_214352_zps5ipkoowb.jpg)

I washed all the dust and plastic out of the blade, but will need to clean up the film, reinsert it, glue it, cut it out of the notch, glue some more, then test it.

I'm aging my "bypass" wires. Someone at work had a fantastic idea of using clear wire so I can make the wire inside corrode instead of using black or red wires. So I have one soaking in salt water and one soaking in drain cleaner to see which one gives me a better corroded effect.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170108_211502_zpslzp4dxnb.jpg)



Tomorrow's job is to modify the covertech wheel:

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170108_205638_zpsby9paikf.jpg)


And that's really all I've got for you sorry. This weekend got taken up with a hell of a lot of home reorganizing that I just didn't want to put off any longer than I had to.


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: scifidude79 on January 08, 2017, 04:25:30 PM
I love how you post cool stuff, and apologize for not posting more.  It's all good, dude.  :)

That's a nifty tip on the corroded wire trick.  Plus, you're using Batman and Wonder Woman glasses, which is cool all by itself.  ;D


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Isola815 on January 09, 2017, 03:16:54 AM
Currently bower-birding at work looking for things to make my blade plug out of  8)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170109_105243_zpsm2l5bt5w.jpg)


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Isola815 on January 09, 2017, 02:25:07 PM
So today was some of those fiddly little jobs that take up heaps of time, but really help it all come together  ;D

I attached the crystal to the LED module. Just with hot glue so I can remove it if I ever want to steal this SRD module for a different hilt and put something else in this hilt. I ordered a couple of plugs that I might wait on before I wire this back up that will give me a sort of QD option that I could install on all my other sabers. I really would love to use the SRD in a better hilt and leave this to just be green. So I'm thinking whatever US hilt I choose to have SRD in, when I order it, I'll order it as AS or CG and move that module into the Prophecy, and have my SRD moved into something cool :)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170109_211235_zpsmtpzvt3c.jpg)

I turned one of the thumb screws (still to be textured and weathered up a bit more. just a test fit for now) into my LED module retention screw because OMFG I am sick of hearing these things rattle around when the blades are out.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170109_211309_zpsypixnttb.jpg)

Covertech wheel, notched and attached. Just need to take it in to work tomorrow (because the bench grinder will be much easier than the dremel) and take the fraction of an inch off the top of that screw as well as cut down the length of it a bit. Then once I know it's fitted correctly I can finish making it dirty. FYI it already slides in and out of the clip as it is with that slight overhang, I just want it to look damaged instead of one shiny new screw. I also installed a black blade retention screw instead of the shiny silver ones. Also got one of these black ones for my Catalyst too :)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170109_211322_zpsygjnx82q.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170109_211331_zpsosshwezh.jpg)


So my blade plug. This is how it will sit, with the notch. If you look on the back wall you can see the plastic of the piece of blade. But it leaves the window open for the crystal to be seen. The blade that I cut will provide the same service.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170109_213859_zpsq4npbeyc.jpg)

The top of my plug is going to be this

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170109_213907_zpsx3yishya.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170109_213923_zpsxepisiw9.jpg)

Which will sit as it does in those pictures, but I am painting it up to look more mechanical/electrical. That black thing it's resting in is just some round piece of plastic to stop me getting paint on my bedside table, it's not part of the plug.


(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170109_213417_zpsvegf8jpg.jpg)

This will take some time, a few coats, a bit of swearing and some very painted fingers, until I have it looking like an old, worn, dirty emitter assembly.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170109_235209_zpssd3pu9ui.jpg)


RevanReborn - this part might interest you as you were wondering about my switch.

So as I said I'm not building one from scratch. I am using this small 2 position on/off slider switch (something different instead of all the push button sabers).

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170109_211503_zpsowekhnfc.jpg)


And for the top of the switch both to cover the switch in the hole, and to fit with the saber design, I have assembled a little plate of sorts.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170109_211402_zps8t9of6uw.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170109_211424_zpsenovbqel.jpg)

This will be fixed to the top of the switch and will be the thumb control for the on/off slide function.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170109_211557_zpsubgsk72o.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170109_211601_zps2igycwxy.jpg)

 Now you guys can probably see why I had to extend that switch area and take it out of round. I needed a channel for my switch plate to slide up and down in.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170109_211443_zpsxnj1f4ea.jpg)


Apart from that I shot a couple coats of clear over the hilt and the pommel. Once I have finished texturing and weathering all the other piece I'll shoot clear over them too.

Ok, that's all for now!


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Corwyn VonBeck on January 10, 2017, 01:47:56 AM
Wow... more stunning work there Isola. love the switch, its a great looking alternative!


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: scifidude79 on January 10, 2017, 02:05:39 AM
It's all awesome.  Great work on everything.  :)


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: RevanReborn on January 10, 2017, 12:11:41 PM
Ahhh, I see now :), very cool!  Very cool idea with the switch, that's gonna be really nice!  Really unique, will probably have a really smooth operation too if you know what I mean.  That will feel good to activate. 

Coming along awesome!


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Isola815 on January 10, 2017, 12:33:50 PM
Finished my plug

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170110_183920_zps7vuxtiy8.jpg)


Finished my CT wheel

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170110_184425_zpsd35szcmw.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170110_195751_zpszq65pg5s.jpg)


Then I got bored watching the 80th coat on my Catalyst dry. So I did a test wire to make sure it was all good and make sure my blade plug worked alright.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170110_200549_zpsd84myfds.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170110_204713_zpsdxfonkcd.jpg)

Still need to wire it up properly when my connectors arrive, and install the switch. The switch will probably be a weekend job because I'll need two people as it's so darned fiddly. But for now here's a couple of shots of it lit up.

All these lens flare are J.J Abrams approved by the way.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170110_204911_zpshf1oltxp.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170110_205028_zpsswzkgymx.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170110_205032_zpsutbmz4r5.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170110_205045_zpspveoxndq.jpg)


The end is in sight, and it's a good feeling :)


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Jeadus Teal on January 11, 2017, 09:01:39 AM
Great work so for Isola815 and liking all of your progress photos.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170109_211424_zpsenovbqel.jpg)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170110_205045_zpspveoxndq.jpg)


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Seano on January 11, 2017, 09:06:31 AM
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w497/Seano321/1hg8o4_zpsniz2csij.jpg) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/Seano321/media/1hg8o4_zpsniz2csij.jpg.html)

Fantastic work, by the way! Points are incoming!


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Isola815 on January 11, 2017, 02:13:10 PM
([url]http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w497/Seano321/1hg8o4_zpsniz2csij.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/Seano321/media/1hg8o4_zpsniz2csij.jpg.html[/url])

Fantastic work, by the way! Points are incoming!



YESSSSS!!!! Oh my god this is my new favorite image! Point to you for that one  ;D

I'm a massive Abrams fan too, so this just made my day  :D



I was wanting to do more, but waiting on my connectors so couldn't really do anything, and all of a sudden
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/screen-shot-2014-05-09-at-17-45-36_zpsfi2hwfr2.png)

I had an even better idea about mounting the switch.

So I broke out the dremel again and notched out the switch hole so I could slide the switch in from the top instead of having to try and glue it from inside like the AV switches. Then I notched a ledge out so the switch would sit flush with the inner material in the switch hole (the part US normally drill out to make it a 16mm hole for the AV switches) This gave it a nice firm surface to press into as well which felt much better for a sliding switch than just glued to the inside of the hilt with nothing but glue and air under it.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170111_190816_zpshn7fzzlb.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170111_191323_zps5twujhnq.jpg)

You can see the switch here unmodified

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170111_190858_zpsw2vh0bg1.jpg)

and you may notice I cut the stalk down (that was so the cover was sitting on the hilt instead of in the sky), and reshaped the mounting ears so it would fit in the channel that I cut out in the switch hole

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170111_190843_zpsibflzire.jpg)


Then I attached my switch cover/plate/whatever you want to call it to the top of the stalk

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170111_195632_zps8fneuol8.jpg)


Ahhh, I see now :), very cool!  Very cool idea with the switch, that's gonna be really nice!  Really unique, will probably have a really smooth operation too if you know what I mean.  That will feel good to activate. 

Coming along awesome!


Unique was the key to this build. I wanted to reuse as little of the original look as possible, hence my carnage and relocation on the covertech wheel and brass thumb screw.

This video is specially for you :)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aKDInCf_V4s


So my switch is done and while I was at the electronics store today (buying more switches in case I totally stepped on my d**k when I cut the first one) I stumbled upon this

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170111_190942_zpswgad74cj.jpg)

It's a USB power pack that fits inside the hilt almost perfectly. It's a bit on the snug side, but will be worth it. The same guy at work who had the idea of the clear wire also said it would have been cool if it could just sit on display and have the crystal lit, without having to change the batteries all the time. When I saw this I realized it would be perfect to power the saber because with this next picture, you'll see why I can't use the standard battery pack any more.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170111_214922_zpsknhkl7ed.jpg)

This is just a test fit for length. I cut down a usb cable, removed the data wires and will wire the pos and neg wires up to one side of my switch and my led respectively.


The usb plug will go into the power pack to power the led when the saber is out and about. And when it is on display, the pommel will be removed, power pack taken out, and the saber will be on a stand that I am going to make that will pretty much just be a female usb connecter mounted in something that the saber can sit on without falling over.

Hoping for my connectors to arrive tomorrow so I can finish up. I also need to finish off my blade, but that shouldn't take too long just to put the film back in and glue it up :)

Thanks everyone for the points, views, comments etc. It makes me want to keep going when I see other people are enjoying the build as much as I am!


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: scifidude79 on January 11, 2017, 03:06:18 PM
Dude, that crystal shining through the side is awesome.  Though, everything about this project is.  I really like how you mounted that switch, great idea.  :)


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Corwyn VonBeck on January 11, 2017, 03:07:55 PM
Looking awesome Isola!


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Isola815 on January 11, 2017, 03:14:42 PM
Dude, that crystal shining through the side is awesome.  Though, everything about this project is.  I really like how you mounted that switch, great idea.  :)

I love how it looks like it's powered by Kryptonite  8)




Looking awesome Isola!

Thanks  ;D


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: scifidude79 on January 11, 2017, 03:17:10 PM
I love how it looks like it's powered by Kryptonite  8)

Indeed, it does.  ;D


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Corwyn VonBeck on January 11, 2017, 03:31:36 PM
I love how it looks like it's powered by Kryptonite  8)

Thanks  ;D

Hahahahaha!
Lovin it!


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Rapine on January 11, 2017, 03:35:22 PM
That's looking really good Isola.  :)

Loving all of the light escaping. ;D

Great work on the switch, and that gaping hole...lol

I am a bit curious if it ends up dimming your blade at all though - when it's all said and done.  Likely not a lot, if any.

+1


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Taegin Roan on January 11, 2017, 07:36:56 PM
Wow, I still haven't seen anything that you have done to this saber that I haven't liked. Great job.


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Jeadus Teal on January 11, 2017, 08:37:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKDInCf_V4s

I really like the way you have incorporated your switch into the saber which keeps the "look" of the saber you are trying to achieve.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170111_190816_zpshn7fzzlb.jpg)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170111_191323_zps5twujhnq.jpg)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170111_195632_zps8fneuol8.jpg)

Good job on the focusing crystal too.  :)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170109_211235_zpsmtpzvt3c.jpg)

Point to you.




Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Jediseth on January 11, 2017, 09:00:31 PM
That is a cool switch.  Looks old school, I love it.


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Isola815 on January 12, 2017, 01:44:37 PM
The connectors I ordered turn out to be on backorder  ::) so screw it, I'm wiring this sucker up for now. I can easily undo two wires and put the connector on at a later date. So here we go.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170111_214930_zpsxleplaho.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170111_215853_zpspfhl8hju.jpg)

put my "bypass" wires in the hilt. The clear wire didn't work because it turns on the wire itself it's actually teeny tiny wire in the center core, and the "copper" wire that I thought I was trying to green up was just a foil shielding  >:(

So I went back to my original plan of red.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170111_222927_zpsfehh5iht.jpg)

Here's a few pics after being wired up and power source connected. The usb pack isn't fully charged though, so it's not as bright at it should be.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170111_224839_zpsb2rxozjw.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170111_224842_zpsxhbwnhtw.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170111_224915_zpsxkm9zl4g.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170111_224819_zpsjzt9gb8v.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170111_224831_zpsgzqzwmyp.jpg)



Now I have two problems.

1. I don't think this power pack is charging properly, so I am probably going to have to take it back and swap it which means a weekend mission...

AND

2. This saber NEEDS to be red now*. So my other weekend mission is to find a red crystal the same as what I have, pull my Liberator apart and steal the AS led module, install that into here and make my Lib SRD. Then find a good red gel to cover the LED and mount the crystal to it. Unless the crystal works fine on the AS led without needing a gel (here's hoping).

*
Why? Well, after getting a really good look at this thing, and a feel for it while I've been building it, it WANTS to be red. This saber screams darkness and death. And this lead me to realising that this is only the first saber in a series that I am going to build. I now have idea for a few different colors, but I'm not going to say what one, why, or how just yet. When this is finished I will take some proper photos with my good cameras and present it to the forum as a photo thread. Then I will explain what I am doing and it will be another journey for you all to follow :)

This also means that I don't need to keep working on the blade, as this will not be a dueling saber. It will be a display piece and the focus will be on the crystal lighting up, not a blade. So I am going to use that leftover blade to make the plugs for the other sabers.

I won't keep you waiting long to find out what I'm doing. If I can't find a red crystal locally on the weekend I will order one I found on ebay. I'm just trying not to pay $30 for one lol



STAY TUNED!


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: scifidude79 on January 12, 2017, 02:46:13 PM
It looks wicked all put together.  I agree, red would be a great choice.  ;D


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Corwyn VonBeck on January 12, 2017, 04:09:17 PM
That is without doubt the ugliest, beat up, fossilized relic of a decrepit saber i have ever seen! Excellent work Isola!
I look forward to seeing more projects from you!


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Lord Canterbury on January 12, 2017, 05:06:54 PM
Don't settle for any old red.

That is calling for the Blood Red hue that can only be achieved with a Deep Red LED!

http://www.luxeonstar.com/deep-red-655nm-sinkpad-ii-20mm-star-led-640mw

Also available in a Tri-Star for greater brightness.


Oh and yeah - great work!


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Jeadus Teal on January 12, 2017, 09:17:12 PM
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170111_224819_zpsjzt9gb8v.jpg)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170111_224831_zpsgzqzwmyp.jpg)

Nice work.

The connectors I ordered turn out to be on backorder  ::) so screw it, I'm wiring this sucker up for now. I can easily undo two wires and put the connector on at a later date. So here we go.


Now I have two problems.

1. I don't think this power pack is charging properly, so I am probably going to have to take it back and swap it which means a weekend mission...

AND

2. This saber NEEDS to be red now*. So my other weekend mission is to find a red crystal the same as what I have, pull my Liberator apart and steal the AS led module, install that into here and make my Lib SRD. Then find a good red gel to cover the LED and mount the crystal to it. Unless the crystal works fine on the AS led without needing a gel (here's hoping).

*
Why? Well, after getting a really good look at this thing, and a feel for it while I've been building it, it WANTS to be red. This saber screams darkness and death. And this lead me to realising that this is only the first saber in a series that I am going to build. I now have idea for a few different colors, but I'm not going to say what one, why, or how just yet. When this is finished I will take some proper photos with my good cameras and present it to the forum as a photo thread. Then I will explain what I am doing and it will be another journey for you all to follow :)

This also means that I don't need to keep working on the blade, as this will not be a dueling saber. It will be a display piece and the focus will be on the crystal lighting up, not a blade. So I am going to use that leftover blade to make the plugs for the other sabers.

I won't keep you waiting long to find out what I'm doing. If I can't find a red crystal locally on the weekend I will order one I found on ebay. I'm just trying not to pay $30 for one lol



STAY TUNED!


Perhaps try some of the New Age shops to find your red crystal or buy a Smoked Quartz crystal and use a red LED for your build.

(http://crystalvisionsshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/smokey-quartz.jpg)

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=smoked+quartz&rlz=1C1EJFA_enAU693AU699&espv=2&biw=1517&bih=708&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRg7y_xb3RAhUGwrwKHV9sB-IQsAQIbQ



Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Isola815 on January 12, 2017, 09:26:02 PM
Don't settle for any old red.

That is calling for the Blood Red hue that can only be achieved with a Deep Red LED!

[url]http://www.luxeonstar.com/deep-red-655nm-sinkpad-ii-20mm-star-led-640mw[/url]

Also available in a Tri-Star for greater brightness.


Oh and yeah - great work!


You, Sir, are a wealth of information! Thank you for the link :D


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Taegin Roan on January 12, 2017, 11:55:19 PM
Wow, once again, amazing work. Looks beautiful (in an ugly sort of way). I can totally see it in Red.

Point to you


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: RevanReborn on January 13, 2017, 05:28:36 PM
Dude that switch is amazing!!  Thanks for the vid, the action of that thing is SO good!  Amazing work :). 

Really cool idea with the bank.  I did something similar on a stunt project i started a long time ago i still haven't finished.  The bank is sitting in a cutout, exposed partially with some circuit card and accent lighting to dress it up- pretty neat.  Its called "sentinel stunt project" or something like that lol, you'd have to search it cause it's so deep, but i bet you'd like that build, it has the same spirit/ experimental feel to it, and i made my own act box out of an exploded phone and some other adventurous stuff... doesn't have a crystal chamber per say, but does have a reveal chamber all dressed up to house a hidden switch for the sabers accent lighting and the usb recharge :). 

This will look so epic sitting there on display like that- right on!




Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Benji on January 13, 2017, 06:09:50 PM
Wow... It's a crime... LOL.  Reading the back story you had for this saber was fun, and definitely the outcome of the saber seems to follow the story.  It doesn't look structurally sound at all! Still amazing that you could turn a Prophecy into that though.

 ;D Think you're right, though. I like the green but the saber does have kind of a red 'feel' to it.


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Landen Se-Sentien on January 13, 2017, 06:55:25 PM
Isola, I've been following this thread, but I haven't commented, because I wanted to see the finished product.

Very well done!!!

I remember you had some disappointments with this saber, and you were debating sending it back, but I'm glad you decided to keep it and work on it. It looks fantastic!! I agree, it needs to be red.

Point!


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Rapine on January 13, 2017, 07:12:15 PM
Hey Isola.

Stellar work, but I think you've got that message...lol

I actually like the Prophecies in green - wonder why.   ::)

I'm thinking that yours would look good in AB, but the "Deep Red" Lord C speaks of is pretty awesome.  :)


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Isola815 on January 15, 2017, 02:13:49 PM
Wow, once again, amazing work. Looks beautiful (in an ugly sort of way). I can totally see it in Red.

Point to you



And now you can ;)

Dude that switch is amazing!!  Thanks for the vid, the action of that thing is SO good!  Amazing work :). 

Really cool idea with the bank.  I did something similar on a stunt project i started a long time ago i still haven't finished.  The bank is sitting in a cutout, exposed partially with some circuit card and accent lighting to dress it up- pretty neat.  Its called "sentinel stunt project" or something like that lol, you'd have to search it cause it's so deep, but i bet you'd like that build, it has the same spirit/ experimental feel to it, and i made my own act box out of an exploded phone and some other adventurous stuff... doesn't have a crystal chamber per say, but does have a reveal chamber all dressed up to house a hidden switch for the sabers accent lighting and the usb recharge :). 

This will look so epic sitting there on display like that- right on!



No problem at all! I'm glad it worked out the way I'd planned. It gave me a a bit of mental grief, constantly reworking the idea in my head until the lightbulb went off. From there on it was smooth as silk :)

I didn't think I'd be the first person to have thought of using a USB pack before! It seemed like too good of an idea for someone not to have had. I'll have a look for the thread :D


Wow... It's a crime... LOL.  Reading the back story you had for this saber was fun, and definitely the outcome of the saber seems to follow the story.  It doesn't look structurally sound at all! Still amazing that you could turn a Prophecy into that though.

 ;D Think you're right, though. I like the green but the saber does have kind of a red 'feel' to it.


No! That covertech wheel was a crime! Lol not really. It just helped me not care one way of the other how brutal I got with this thing :)

The story got me most of the way there, but then thinking of it red changed my story a bit to fit this "series" idea that I've had.


Isola, I've been following this thread, but I haven't commented, because I wanted to see the finished product.

Very well done!!!

I remember you had some disappointments with this saber, and you were debating sending it back, but I'm glad you decided to keep it and work on it. It looks fantastic!! I agree, it needs to be red.

Point!


Well just bear with me a few more days and you will be able to see the finished product in proper professional photos and in RED  8). Glad you liked the outcome, thank you :)


Hey Isola.

Stellar work, but I think you've got that message...lol

I actually like the Prophecies in green - wonder why.   ::)

I'm thinking that yours would look good in AB, but the "Deep Red" Lord C speaks of is pretty awesome.  :)


Greens are nice, for sure. You just wait until you see what MY green saber is going to be  ;)


Sooooo..... Ladies and Gentlemen... I committed ANOTHER crime... I...



GUTTED MY LIBERATOR!!  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o  ??? :'(


(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170115_221701_zpsux4mtyoq.jpg)


As an interim red I have stolen the AS out of my liberator, fitted a colored filter disc, which was a bit pink, and added three layers of red cellophane under the disc. It is a clear crystal for now because for the life of my I cannot find a red one in any local stores, so I will order one online and wait for it. But this at least lets me get stuff finished up to do a photo shoot of the finished product. Then I'll tweak it later on by adding a red LED and a red crystal.

I also trimmed the USB cable a bit so it wasn't interfering with the pommel as much. It was just annoying enough that I had to fix it.


(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170115_222133_zpsvjhirmmz.jpg)


(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/20170115_222144_zpsvfv01wen.jpg)


Stay tuned in the next few days for finished photos (well not the stand, because I honestly CBF in the near 100 degree days we've been having over the last two weeks, but pics of the saber anyway) I will upload them as a Gallery thread, but I will post them here too for those who've been following along :)




Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Rapine on January 15, 2017, 02:18:34 PM
Awesome Isola!

You never fail to amaze. :)

I am now intrigued to see which saber will get a green LED...lol

Are you susceptible to the wild fires down there?  I know that's a huge thing there...


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: scifidude79 on January 15, 2017, 02:26:59 PM
That definitely looks great with the red crystal in there.  :)


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Isola815 on January 15, 2017, 02:29:57 PM

Awesome Isola!

You never fail to amaze. :)

I am now intrigued to see which saber will get a green LED...lol

Are you susceptible to the wild fires down there?  I know that's a huge thing there...

Safe enough where I live thankfully. My area is good no matter what natural disaster we are having that week  ;D

But my brother did live very close to where they had the huge fire in 2009. He and his family were all ok, but it was very close to home for them. They had to evacuate their home at one point. But luckily for them the fire was quenched before it got that far.


That definitely looks great with the red crystal in there.  :)

yeah I'm diggin' it :D


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Rapine on January 15, 2017, 03:00:15 PM
Safe enough where I live thankfully. My area is good no matter what natural disaster we are having that week  ;D

But my brother did live very close to where they had the huge fire in 2009. He and his family were all ok, but it was very close to home for them. They had to evacuate their home at one point. But luckily for them the fire was quenched before it got that far.

Well, it's good to know that you're alright at least.  And I'm happy to hear that your bro & fam were safe.  That must have been scary.


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Taegin Roan on January 16, 2017, 07:25:03 AM
I really can't wait to see the finished product now. The red crystal looks AMAZING in there. I really want a red saber now. Another point.

EDIT: Sorry, I accidentally gave you the wrong point. I'll get you back to where your supposed to be soon. ::)


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Isola815 on January 16, 2017, 09:46:54 AM
I really can't wait to see the finished product now. The red crystal looks AMAZING in there. I really want a red saber now. Another point.

EDIT: Sorry, I accidentally gave you the wrong point. I'll get you back to where your supposed to be soon. ::)

I would like to get one too, a proper one instead of my hunk of metal shards  ;D I think I'm going to have fun editing these photos :D

Shot a few more coats of clear and touched up some paint details today, so with any luck I should be able to photograph it Wednesday (my time) afternoon :)

No big deal about the point, don't stress :)


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Rathayatra on January 16, 2017, 03:10:53 PM
Epic project on a Prophecy . this is amazing work . Thanks for the process for a properly done custom job. Battle worn now needs a new definition.


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: RevanReborn on January 18, 2017, 01:33:10 PM
Wicked, Isola, just WICKED!  All around amazing job :).


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Isola815 on January 18, 2017, 01:39:21 PM
Thanks everybody!

I haven't forgotten about the photos, I just haven't had time. The workshop has been overbooked and we're all run into the ground at the moment. My girlfriend said she'll give me a hand on the weekend to set up the home studio so we can get some shots for y'all :)


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Isola815 on January 22, 2017, 02:49:11 PM
Oh no! My thread fell to the second page  :P


Hey everyone!

Some of you may have seen my Prophecy v3 review:

[url]http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=33220.0[/url]


And some of you may have seen my Prophecy v3 custom build thread:

[url]http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=33555.0[/url]


Well here is the finished product.

This hilt is called The Mustafar.

Once it started to near completion, an idea formed in my mind. I wanted to make a series of planet "inspired" modified Ultra Sabers. For this saber, looking like it was dragged from fires and molten lava, the only name that seemed fitting was The Mustafar.

This will be the first in a series (hopefully a long series) of hilts that I am going to model after planets in the Star Wars universe. We see lots of character inspired things, or things based around specific starships, but I've never personally seen a planet collection. I have a few more ideas for the "next in line" and would ideally like to make one for every color available for the sabers. I am also going to aim to have a visible Kyber crystal in each saber as a recurring theme.

So without further ado, Ladies and Gentlemen, may I present to you The Mustafar:

([url]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/Mustafar/DSC_7556_zpswh14n3wc.jpg[/url])




([url]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/Mustafar/DSC_7558_zps6iesb1su.jpg[/url])




([url]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/Mustafar/DSC_7560_zpscsqnehe1.jpg[/url])




([url]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/Mustafar/DSC_7562_zpsfvm9l4gq.jpg[/url])




([url]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/Mustafar/DSC_7564_zpskgi4cngl.jpg[/url])




([url]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/Mustafar/DSC_7566_zps3uoxuy5h.jpg[/url])




([url]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/Mustafar/DSC_7567_zpsdob45soq.jpg[/url])




([url]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/Mustafar/DSC_7569_zpslma8qomc.jpg[/url])




Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Jeadus Teal on January 22, 2017, 09:09:50 PM
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/Mustafar/DSC_7556_zpswh14n3wc.jpg)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/Mustafar/DSC_7564_zpskgi4cngl.jpg)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/815imagery/Personal/Prophecy%20V3/Mustafar/DSC_7569_zpslma8qomc.jpg)

Epic photos of your saber Isola815. Well done and point for sharing.


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Taegin Roan on January 22, 2017, 11:27:00 PM
Oh wow, you've officially earned more points. That thing looks amazing.


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Benji on January 23, 2017, 12:05:10 AM
Love those new pics, Isola! Still looks amazing.


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Corwyn VonBeck on January 23, 2017, 02:51:35 AM
Wow... what a mod! Kudos man, you really made that thing your own!


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Isola815 on January 23, 2017, 07:30:01 AM
Thanks everyone! It was heaps of fun to make, and I was really glad to be able to turn something I didn't like at all, into something that heaps of people enjoyed watching take form :)

Still proud AF of that switch though  8) that's probably my favorite part of the whole build to be honest. So many people said it wouldn't work and there would be easier ways, and there were so many readily available switches that I could have given up and used, but I'm really glad I stuck with my original plan!


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Benji on January 23, 2017, 02:28:12 PM


The usb plug will go into the power pack to power the led when the saber is out and about. And when it is on display, the pommel will be removed, power pack taken out, and the saber will be on a stand that I am going to make that will pretty much just be a female usb connecter mounted in something that the saber can sit on without falling over.


How's the display stand idea coming?


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Isola815 on January 23, 2017, 02:56:17 PM
How's the display stand idea coming?


Waiting on some online order parts to arrive from China. Once they get here it won't take long to get it all finished up :)


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Corwyn VonBeck on January 23, 2017, 03:30:37 PM
Thanks everyone! It was heaps of fun to make, and I was really glad to be able to turn something I didn't like at all, into something that heaps of people enjoyed watching take form :)

Still proud AF of that switch though  8) that's probably my favorite part of the whole build to be honest. So many people said it wouldn't work and there would be easier ways, and there were so many readily available switches that I could have given up and used, but I'm really glad I stuck with my original plan!

I really dont see anything else fitting with the design, except for an apparent solid piece of the hilt that is some kind of pressure switch, or  the kind that is touch sensitive ( but that would probably suck in use, with a slight brush on it activating it... I think you nailed it mate.


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: JediXIX on January 24, 2017, 02:56:20 AM
EPIC work on this project Isola . . . a great read from the start, following your progress . . . have a point and an extra one for making me laugh here and there with some of our Oz peculiarities, hehe . . . . Straya, #$%@ yeah  :P ;)


And . . . I really like your switch also . . . love seeing custom ideas come together like that . . . What you've done here, along with something Rev is working on has given me some, ummm, idea's  ::)




Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Isola815 on January 24, 2017, 07:28:12 AM
EPIC work on this project Isola . . . a great read from the start, following your progress . . . have a point and an extra one for making me laugh here and there with some of our Oz peculiarities, hehe . . . . Straya, #$%@ yeah  :P ;)


And . . . I really like your switch also . . . love seeing custom ideas come together like that . . . What you've done here, along with something Rev is working on has given me some, ummm, idea's  ::)




Thanks! I'll keep my eyes peeled for whatever you wind up doing from these "ideas"  :)


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: doomblade0 on January 24, 2017, 11:28:31 PM
WOW!!! It looks truly epic!! Great story for it too!

I could only find a mention of durability once in the thread, so I wanted to ask (sorry if I missed the answer already); Is it duel-able at all? I don't know if you really wanted it for that reason, or just for display.
I'm new to the saber community, and I am not sure how durable aluminum is(except foil, haha), so I don't have a grasp on whats "too far" for customization on stunt sabers


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Isola815 on January 25, 2017, 12:23:16 AM
WOW!!! It looks truly epic!! Great story for it too!

I could only find a mention of durability once in the thread, so I wanted to ask (sorry if I missed the answer already); Is it duel-able at all? I don't know if you really wanted it for that reason, or just for display.
I'm new to the saber community, and I am not sure how durable aluminum is(except foil, haha), so I don't have a grasp on whats "too far" for customization on stunt sabers

I decided on just display, but it is still quite strong. The new blade retention screws and such that I put in were retapped to larger sizes so they are nice and firm.

I'm confident enough to say you could duel with it without any major worries.


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: Rapine on January 25, 2017, 01:18:29 AM
doomblade0,

These sabers are made from T-86 "aircraft grade" aluminum.  You COULD throw it down the stairs, or against the wall without hurting it.  DON'T!

Even when you abuse it as much as Isola did, it's still strong. :)

Heavy grade blades are for duelling.


Title: Re: Misread Prophecy V3
Post by: doomblade0 on January 29, 2017, 06:50:51 AM
I decided on just display, but it is still quite strong. The new blade retention screws and such that I put in were retapped to larger sizes so they are nice and firm.

I'm confident enough to say you could duel with it without any major worries.
doomblade0,

These sabers are made from T-86 "aircraft grade" aluminum.  You COULD throw it down the stairs, or against the wall without hurting it.  DON'T!

Even when you abuse it as much as Isola did, it's still strong. :)

Heavy grade blades are for duelling.
Dang, I had no clue they were so durable...that's pretty impressive. I was thinking that maybe after the cutting it would be a little less durable. Thanks for the response!!