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Last year I had an idea for dual wielding, a Prophecy in AB, and a Dark Prophecy in BR, but alas, the Dark Prophecies were on back-order, and it was unknown when they'd be back in stock. So I bought 2 Prophecies, the AB with AS FOC, and BR with FO FOC (there was a special on FOC at the time, so wanted to make the most of the price drop!)

Now I've had a bit more practice with soldering and painting, I'm game enough to experiment with the BR Prophecy, and have a go with painting it black, but leaving the cut outs silver - I'll also paint the cut outs on the AB black, to go with the theme!

In a couple of weeks, I'll have 5 days off in a row (just a lucky run with my roster, as well as the Australia Day Public Holiday chucked in for good measure!), leaving me with plenty of time to get it right!

Below is a pic of the 2 Prophecies (the black part is an experiment with some Plasti-Dip, which didn't really work out)

(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w497/Seano321/20170114_233059_zpspcgejyss.jpg) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/Seano321/media/20170114_233059_zpspcgejyss.jpg.html)

Updates and pics to follow!

Why does the AB one look bigger?  Is it just an optical illusion due to it being closer to the camera?

Yeah it's just the camera angle - I think the pic was taken horizontally with the blue Prophecy at the bottom and then Seano spun the pic vertically.  Am I right Seano?  :)







I'm looking fwd to this project as your mods and themes are a lot of fun and well thought out.

Loving the two Prophecy sabers and they sure do make an amazing duel wielding pair.

You have the right of it, Hazard, pic taken horizontally, and and rotated when edited! Thanks for the kind words, too, hopefully this project lives up to your expectations!

Hey Seano,

This would be super easy to do with Plasti-dip. If you get yourself a can of black, and a can of glossifier just do the following:


4 dust coats of black. Should be about 5 minutes dry time for each dust coat.
8 - 10 slightly heavier coats over the "hard to reach spots" but not TOO heavy. Plasti-dip self levels, but not when it pools and runs give it 15-20 minutes dry time.
4 solid coats over the whole saber top to toe  - try and give it 20-30 minutes between each coat.

BEFORE YOU DO THE GLOSS, get yourself a PLASTIC razor blade, and because you have a nice thick coating on there now instead of the very thin coats people usually do, you will be able to cut it cleanly without getting tears. The plastic blade also won't scratch up the metal finish. Cut out the choke point, the grip dips or whatever else you want silver and peel away. Just don't tape anything. Taping Plasti-dip projects is a world of hurt.

Then do about 5 or so coats of glossifier, focusing on your "hard to reach" spots quite well, but again don't let it pool or run. Let it dry for about 12 hours and you'll be all set :) So you can do it in a day really. Then reassemble the next day!


However that IS $60 worth of Plasti-dip. So I can totally understand wanting to paint it instead. It will just take a lot longer to get a flawless black finish :( just remember to stock up on lots of 1200 and 2000 grit sandpaper for between each coat if you want a mirror black as gloss black is not very forgiving. Plasti-dip would also have the grippier advantage.

No matter what direction you go I'm looking forward to seeing the design style you wind up with. Point to you for a thread to keep watching! Cheers!

Gah... I'm doing the same thing! a dark prophecy & a regular, turning them both into takes on the LE version, but coming from 2 different directions... yours is probably gonna kick mines ass! lol

What the?!  I swear I already commented on this thread!!  Dang it!

Wicked idea Seano :). 

Stage 1 complete - damn, they like to use a lot of glue to hold the A/V switch in place! I'll be using a half-bolt to hold my silver A/V switch in place when it arrives.

(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w497/Seano321/20170127_171151_zpsquj93unm.jpg) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/Seano321/media/20170127_171151_zpsquj93unm.jpg.html)

I saw a YouTube video of someone deconstructing their Standard Issue, which is where I got the idea to unscrew the LED module from its casing, then passing it through the hilt with the wiring intact, therefore negating the issue of cutting the wires.

Also, got the idea of switching the bezels and A/V switches from JediXIX to stay in the theme - http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=26110.0

Next step, cleaning down the hilt, and the first coat!

I'm looking forward to seeing how this turns out.

Hehe, thats why I ended up going empty hilts... didnt relish the idea of having to take it apart without breaking something. ;)

Some bad, but also good news - after trying to get the painting right for this, I've decided to just buy a stunt Dark Prophecy, and work on that instead.
On my first attempt, the painting came out looking quite good, but the paint itself still felt tacky, even after curing it in the oven (I bought a cheap small portable oven just for this kind of work, so as not to kill myself with toxic fumes!). I even covered the sabre with a clear top coat, but it still felt tacky after curing.  >:(
So then I stripped the paint back completely, bought myself some black gloss enamel, and after 3 coats, including curing, the paint keeps chipping off.  >:( >:(
That's when I decided, bugger it, I'll just buy a stunt Dark Prophecy, strip the electronics out of it, and replace it with the electronics from my BR Prophecy with FOC. The electronics from the stunt I'll put into the Prophecy I was working on once I've stripped the paint off, and gift it to a friend of mine.

A Jedi is capable of adapting and reformulating strategies in the midst of the battle which is what you're doing Seano :)
Good on you for coming up with something new, to still enjoy making those Prophecies your own.

I recently asked a question about painting...I realize I worded it horribly. I was wondering if painting would make the hilt feel odd too. It's too bad that it does...

What will you do with the old prophecy??

Finally, I have finished Op. Yin Yang - disappointed it didn't turn out how I wanted (black cutouts on the Prophecy, silver cutouts on the Dark Prophecy), but the painting on the cutouts, to my eyes, just wasn't turning out right. So I decided to cut my losses, and just have black and silver contrasting highlights on the 2 sabres -

(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w497/Seano321/Yin%20Yang%201_zpsh7s8yf8i.jpg) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/Seano321/media/Yin%20Yang%201_zpsh7s8yf8i.jpg.html)

(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w497/Seano321/Yin%20Yang%202_zps9szo5mns.jpg) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/Seano321/media/Yin%20Yang%202_zps9szo5mns.jpg.html)

(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w497/Seano321/Yin%20Yang%203_zpsw4obcy4b.jpg) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/Seano321/media/Yin%20Yang%203_zpsw4obcy4b.jpg.html)

(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w497/Seano321/Yin%20Yang%204_zpsobdb6nyu.jpg) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/Seano321/media/Yin%20Yang%204_zpsobdb6nyu.jpg.html)

(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w497/Seano321/Yin%20Yang%205_zps51pwjphm.jpg) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/Seano321/media/Yin%20Yang%205_zps51pwjphm.jpg.html)

(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w497/Seano321/Yin%20Yang%206_zpsukzkmjtx.jpg) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/Seano321/media/Yin%20Yang%206_zpsukzkmjtx.jpg.html)

I think managing to get the light to shine out both of the side holes is due to removing all the glue from around the A/V switch before doing all the prep/painting, then when re-installing all the wiring/LED module, there's a bit more room for the LED module to sit a little bit further down the hilt - I think it looks great with the light shining through both holes!

Great photos and your two Prophecy's look fantastic. Points Seano!

Yeah I actually like how these came out

Very cool. They look good.

Point to you

One last mod for the sabres - I've ordered both silver and a black Emperor's Hand pommels for the Prophecies, for one last finishing touch - can't wait for them to arrive now!

Sorry things didnt turn out the way you planned man, but nice adaptation of the idea. They look very slick with the opposing highlights, and good call on the EH pommels, the simple fact that the pommels are different lengths on the two would drive me batty...

sneak peek at where I am headed on this path...

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3790/32083808564_d8b4a0befa_h.jpg)

I missed these updates originally-

Wicked yin yang sabers Seano!  Beats the crap outta the libbies I did in a yin yang aesthetic, seriously, nice work :).  I love the pommel screen accents particularly, look awesome contrasting like that.  Look awesome all around actually, sweet customizing!  Look forward to seeing the EH pommels, but dang you should use those pommels in a similar fashion in the future. 

Yep, the 2 different length pommels bug me too!  :D

And yours is looking great atm Corwyn, can't wait to see it when it's all shinied up!

They look great Seano, I like the mesh that you added to the pommels.  ;D That large hole in the pommel is the one thing that I do NOT like. So I always get a different pommel.

I don't know if you have already thought about this or not, you probably have. You could switch the pommels so the silver hilt has a black pommel and the black hilt has a silver pommel. Just a thought.

In answer to your question Taegin Roan, yes I have, which is why I ordered these 2 bad boys (which arrived today) - black and silver Emperor's Hand pommels!

(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w497/Seano321/EHP%201_zpsvfsm2s5e.jpg) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/Seano321/media/EHP%201_zpsvfsm2s5e.jpg.html)

(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w497/Seano321/EHP%202_zpsi7av2jyv.jpg) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/Seano321/media/EHP%202_zpsi7av2jyv.jpg.html)

(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w497/Seano321/EHP%203_zpskiqa3mmi.jpg) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/Seano321/media/EHP%203_zpskiqa3mmi.jpg.html)

I think they look great on the Prophecy and Dark Prophecy, they're very low profile (as you can see in the photos), and no decrease in volume either - very happy with this purchase!

They look really good Seano! much better than the originals, certainly, even though I do like what you did with the originals.

Wow those look awesome on there!  Very nice!

Yep, that does it. Totally finishes the look.

SHMEXY custom upgrade, Seano! Woot woot!