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Title: Filtered Tri-AS Prophecy - Pic Heavy
Post by: hazard502 on February 24, 2018, 07:38:09 PM
I've had the US colour filters for awhile and had only tried them with a midgrade blade (my preferred type) and liked maybe 2 colours they produced.

Recently I tried using an UE midgrade blade and the results were vastly different, in a good way.  So many more colours came alive and very likely due to the different type of diffusion white polycarbonate provides.

Why I took so long to try this I don't know.

So I took pics with all the US filters in an UE midgrade blade.  There's more but I'll touch on that in a bit ...


(https://i.imgur.com/Oe4jh0b.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/nC2jVsx.jpg)



(https://i.imgur.com/CKL5T8l.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/z2f4J5y.jpg)



(https://i.imgur.com/JcVEJgD.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/bQMFzzj.jpg)



(https://i.imgur.com/3XOHTab.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/6d9gCzs.jpg)



(https://i.imgur.com/wSdiJ7K.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/53pY0IM.jpg)



(https://i.imgur.com/uG0lhRJ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/4tBZTwb.jpg)



(https://i.imgur.com/wFcxpgl.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/tKxYbDg.jpg)



Ok, it's not all of the filters.  Some of them are so close in colour that on camera you can't tell the difference and those are more in the pinks/purples.  Speaking of which, the pink/purple filters are the weakest showing as very washed out and really not too pleasant to use.  The green/teal/yellow/ filters are much better - showing truer colour while at the same time being bright.

So if you're going to use a midgrade, the colours that work are yellow and teal/SRD and they look good.  The UE provides more range with these particular filters.

I've finally gone and ordered a swatch book from Lee Filters.  For those that don't know these are light filters for stage use, they can perform under high heat, are bright while keeping truer colour.  There will be an overwhelming amount of shades to try and I plan on updating this thread as I experiment with them and with different blade types.  


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Post by: Rapine on February 24, 2018, 08:22:00 PM
Very cool Haz, and great idea. :)

I'm looking forward to seeing the colours you get from LEEs.

Likin' those yellows...old fart approved. ;)

+1


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Post by: Jediseth on February 24, 2018, 08:36:18 PM
Go green!! 😁


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Post by: Darth Davester on February 24, 2018, 09:46:45 PM
Great job, Haz!

+1 for the awesome pics.

And I buuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrnnnnnn for a Prophecy.

Oh yes, it will be mine, the preciouses will..................

(https://i.imgur.com/simzwpG.jpg)


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Post by: tx_tuff on February 25, 2018, 07:20:56 AM
That's Haz, this could help answer a lot of people's questions.

Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk



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Post by: BatMike90 on February 25, 2018, 10:29:03 AM
Thanks for this, I am sure all of your hard work will help anyone looking for answers about US's color discs.

And thank you for reminding me that I need to get a silver atound to getting a silver Prophecy as I have 5 of the Dark versions.


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Post by: Dauntless Seven on February 25, 2018, 06:36:16 PM
I'm really liking the pics of some of those blade colors.  Almost like a sepia with color effect.  I can mail you some Lee sample books anytime as have a local source.  I have gone through some colors within a few books already.

Are you getting your's from Canada or the US ?

point  8)


Title: Re: Filtered Tri-AS Prophecy - Pic Heavy
Post by: hazard502 on February 25, 2018, 07:44:03 PM
Go Green!

Thank you, guys ... this was fun to do and I'm pretty steadily using the filters in my blade now too. Although as a stand alone I really like the silver blade as well.



Thanks for this, I am sure all of your hard work will help anyone looking for answers about US's color discs.

And thank you for reminding me that I need to get a silver atound to getting a silver Prophecy as I have 5 of the Dark versions.

One Dark Prophecy for every Dark Night suit I imagine  :)



I'm really liking the pics of some of those blade colors.  Almost like a sepia with color effect.  I can mail you some Lee sample books anytime as have a local source.  I have gone through some colors within a few books already.

Are you getting your's from Canada or the US ?

point  8)

Thanks  ;D  

It's too easy to take for granted how helpful our community is ... I totally would've asked/made a request for filters if I would've thought of it.  Thanks for the offer, I ordered a book directly from Lee Filter and it's coming from the U.S. $2 but it took a full week to process making me think they had to make one before it could go out.



Great job, Haz!

And I buuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrnnnnnn for a Prophecy.


Thank you, Davester! I'm sure it already goes with out saying but - a worthy investment it is 8)



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Post by: Dauntless Seven on February 25, 2018, 07:55:55 PM
That's a really good price if it includes mailing.  I think Lee still give one free sample book.  I have one book that I don't use but for a sample display with the color specifics.  You can likely get x3 1" circles while leaving a bit of the gel color attached to the book.  I don't think that you will want to take the book apart.  

I use a blade plug to trace the correct circle size for most sabers using the regular size of LED housing.  If you go too small they can slip underneath the LED rim and be difficult to remove.  If too large they could crinkle or sit in the emitter sideways.  I've often combined x2 filters and occasionally used x3 but the illumination can be greatly diminished.
  
An US disc with a filter can make a nice brighter shade.  2nd from the right are some US discs plus a deeper green cut to size filter.  There is a significant difference in size to the blade... therefore the plastic disc could rattle when saber is in use.  Also a few members have reported that the edges of the discs can melt if used for a more lengthy period on top of a tri-Cree Led.  Other members have had no problems with either the discs or the filters.

Sharp narrow curved scissors and a dental pick really help to get a smoother trimmed circle.  I just trace around the plug with the pick... also great for getting the gel filter out of the emitter as they tend to stick to the emitter wall.  :)

This information is mainly for the members who have not yet used the colored disc or the gel filters.  Thanks Haz for letting me jump on to your thread.  :D



(https://i.imgur.com/fQl4hWT.jpg?2)


Title: Re: Filtered Tri-AS Prophecy - Pic Heavy
Post by: hazard502 on February 25, 2018, 08:26:57 PM
Really appreciate those helpful tips, D7 thank you.

Shipping was $7 and if the book is as thick as I think all in I'm happy with what I spent.


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Post by: Biriv on February 25, 2018, 08:46:59 PM
Awesome combinations, i am using the same method of using the blade plug to trace and cut the filters (not Lee Filters as it seems they are hard to get in Europe, but something similar).
Your pictures look great, however i suspect in real-life the light is dimmer than in the pictures, at least this is how it looks in my case.
Do not forget to post an update when your swatch book arrives and compare the color discs from US with the Lee filters ..


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Post by: hazard502 on February 26, 2018, 03:24:52 AM
Thank you, Biriv  :)  It's nice having you, D7 (others are welcome) give some of your experienced input with this.

The brightness is diminished just so, but the more brilliant/clarity of colour is the benefit ... when the right filter is used.

I have some high expectations with what the Lee brand can do as I've heard good things many times. Especially looking fwd to what the results will be with the std midgrade blade.


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Post by: Zren Tobas on February 26, 2018, 06:25:14 AM
Nice. I actually kinda like that shade above the yellow color, its like more of a bluer silver color to me anyway :P (Think Goku's Ultra Instinct colors) Only comparison I can really think of :P Ultra Instinct Silver :P I personally always liked filters in Ultra Edge blades as well especially for blues, greens, yellows, oranges, and purples. Try I think is what its called moon blue and light sky blue together, makes an interesting blue color =] Kelly and lime green make a good green together too. I think that was one of the combos I always used to use before with those anyway. But the two blue combos is almost a Revenge Of The Sith shade of blue or Attack Of The Clones shade. Medium and light blue is a good combo to do too


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Post by: Karmack on February 26, 2018, 04:44:14 PM
That's a really good price if it includes mailing.  I think Lee still give one free sample book.  I have one book that I don't use but for a sample display with the color specifics.  You can likely get x3 1" circles while leaving a bit of the gel color attached to the book.  I don't think that you will want to take the book apart.  

I use a blade plug to trace the correct circle size for most sabers using the regular size of LED housing.  If you go too small they can slip underneath the LED rim and be difficult to remove.  If too large they could crinkle or sit in the emitter sideways.  I've often combined x2 filters and occasionally used x3 but the illumination can be greatly diminished.
  
An US disc with a filter can make a nice brighter shade.  2nd from the right are some US discs plus a deeper green cut to size filter.  There is a significant difference in size to the blade... therefore the plastic disc could rattle when saber is in use.  Also a few members have reported that the edges of the discs can melt if used for a more lengthy period on top of a tri-Cree Led.  Other members have had no problems with either the discs or the filters.

Sharp narrow curved scissors and a dental pick really help to get a smoother trimmed circle.  I just trace around the plug with the pick... also great for getting the gel filter out of the emitter as they tend to stick to the emitter wall.  :)

This information is mainly for the members who have not yet used the colored disc or the gel filters.  Thanks Haz for letting me jump on to your thread.  :D



(https://i.imgur.com/fQl4hWT.jpg?2)

D7, you should pin this in the FAQ.  Wow.  I thought I knew what I was doing with the Lee filters... 

For the record I also use a blade plug to trace the circle for filters.  I've never stacked them, though.  I can usually find a color I want with a single gel.  :-)  And the Tri-Cree AS is SOOO much better when you're filtering.  I have found "mixed" colors, ESPECIALLY yellow, are for whatever reason just superior when you filter vs mixing LED colors.  My SY blades are all AS with a filter.


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Post by: hazard502 on February 26, 2018, 05:37:45 PM
You're right, yellow is one of those great mysteries no one seems to get just right. Plus yellow seems to be a very personal thing for most people, I find.


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Post by: Karmack on February 26, 2018, 06:51:55 PM
You're right, yellow is one of those great mysteries no one seems to get just right. Plus yellow seems to be a very personal thing for most people, I find.

True.

Ironically, my "yellow" is ...  Yellow.  Yellow 101.  Though I also like Light Amber (102) and Lee Yellow 765 and Oklahoma Yellow 767.

My daughter is hooked on pink (Follies Pink 328) and I'm currently looking for a good filter for a very pale purple and Cyan or SRD.

But that's for the future.  I have my Emerald saber set for a really awesome light blue and my Consular is filtered to SY.  I am in happy land!  :-)


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Post by: hazard502 on February 26, 2018, 09:49:51 PM
That sounds fun I'm excited to get into it and ... learn the filters moniker lol.


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Post by: BatMike90 on February 26, 2018, 11:36:26 PM

One Dark Prophecy for every Dark Night suit I imagine  :)


Something like that.


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Post by: Diesel on February 27, 2018, 02:30:55 AM
Wow, I'm really liking the way the orange looks.


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Post by: hazard502 on February 27, 2018, 02:52:13 AM
Wow, I'm really liking the way the orange looks.

Yeah, it's one of the strongest out of the stock US ones ... that, the yellow and SRD disc are the best.

Purple, pink, a really solid green, red, and blue are in need of some help. That's what I'm hoping to see come from the ordered filters.


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Post by: IjediOctar on March 01, 2018, 02:43:25 AM
Very clever color discs mod.


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Post by: Son_Of_A_Sith on March 03, 2018, 03:52:07 AM
i use the lee filters also with my dark intiate v4 TRI CREE AS. I get much better brightness with them over the US discs. Iv sat down for hours cutting out and playing with all the shades. Iv gotten pretty much every color possi le to look reallly good except red. to get a true red you lose too much brightness. but for a way cheaper way to change colors of your saber the TRI CREE AS with filters is the way to go!


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Post by: hazard502 on March 03, 2018, 08:43:00 AM
I just got my swatch book today, and started cutting out colours and trying to keep them organized ... interesting about the red, _Sith.  I haven't gotten to those yet will be interesting to see the results for myself.

Will be taking some time to go through the book and hoping to post some new pics sometime in the next few days.


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Post by: Son_Of_A_Sith on March 03, 2018, 04:14:47 PM
Awesome! It's fun finding all the cool combinations of colors. The reds are nice just not as bright in my opinion. I organzided all mine in tiny little baggies with the color names written on them. (Guardian Blue, fire orange, etc.)


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Post by: hazard502 on March 04, 2018, 03:21:04 AM
Ready to roll ... just like you did, _Sith and also taken straight outta Dauntless Seven's playbook I went and got something to keep the filters organized.  A $3 photo album that'll hold up to 100 colours (photo's  ;)).

(https://i.imgur.com/0AerF0B.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/OcNtiqZ.jpg)


I've settled on 42 colours and may get into more detailed shades of blues etc. down the road but right now this is more than enough to mix/match and play with.


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Post by: hazard502 on March 04, 2018, 03:39:48 AM
I'm going to be showing only one shade of a colour at a time as by photo it's near impossible to tell apart one red from another side x side and so on.  
Some colours are duds, for the most part I'm impressed and these have met my expectations for quality colour filtration and brightness.

So starting off this time around ...

Scarlet #024 x 1(filter) (has a pink hue to it)

(https://i.imgur.com/KcqhgwR.jpg)


Dark Green #124 x 1 or 2.  Solid.

(https://i.imgur.com/JXoxffu.jpg)


Bright Pink #128 x 1 or 2.  So good!

(https://i.imgur.com/sht99oL.jpg)


Rust #777 x 1

(https://i.imgur.com/8GukIqe.jpg)


Shanklin Frost #717 x 2 (icy blue)

(https://i.imgur.com/TYrehad.jpg)


Dark Lavender #180 x 1

(https://i.imgur.com/cexRISs.jpg)


Lime Green #088 x 1 or 2  Also amazing!

(https://i.imgur.com/dTXARXI.jpg)



Yes, the Lime Green and Bright Pink are the most evenly lit I've seen in these colours and indistinguishable from a dedicated LED IMO.  #leeforthewin.

More to follow  8)


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Post by: Metal Mech on March 04, 2018, 04:09:58 AM
After seeing all these posts I am really tempted to go this route. This will allow me to change colors if I see fit, or if I get bored with a color. My only thing is you loose the ability for flash on clash. I am thinking I may buy one saber with FoC and then any sabers I buy/build after that use this method.


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Post by: hazard502 on March 04, 2018, 06:21:21 AM
As a suggestion you could get a silver main colour with FOC, then filter it to different main colours. Of course this would mess a little with your FOC though.


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Post by: Metal Mech on March 04, 2018, 06:32:18 AM
As a suggestion you could get a silver main colour with FOC, then filter it to different main colours. Of course this would mess a little with your FOC though.

That is an option. Most likely I will just get my next one with a standard color and FoC. See if I even like FoC. Then do my next couple this way for a more custom color effect and changabity.

I already got the saber bug and only just got my first stunt saber haha. I already have 5 more saber planned on my list.


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Post by: hazard502 on March 04, 2018, 07:08:30 AM
I hear ya, and certainly go with your plan. Took me 4yrs before I gave AS a try lol.


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Post by: BatMike90 on March 04, 2018, 12:02:26 PM
As a fan of AS, I have yet to try these. I am really tempted now.


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Post by: Son_Of_A_Sith on March 04, 2018, 12:41:12 PM
 Great job hazard!! that's more organized than mine by far! I love the photo album idea. Points for this!


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Post by: hazard502 on March 04, 2018, 07:42:51 PM
As a fan of AS, I have yet to try these. I am really tempted now.

For the actual material I'm $5 invested which is a huge payoff for what you get out of it. It was even relaxing taking the time to set up the album and filters :)


Title: Re: Filtered Tri-AS Prophecy - Pic Heavy
Post by: hazard502 on March 04, 2018, 07:45:32 PM
Great job hazard!! that's more organized than mine by far! I love the photo album idea. Points for this!

Thank you! Ideally I would've liked sleeves for coin collecting but at least this way there's lots of room to write down the filter information ... that and it's readily available.


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Post by: Taegin Roan on March 04, 2018, 11:44:33 PM
Beautiful pics and colors haz.


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Post by: hazard502 on March 05, 2018, 03:17:31 AM
Beautiful pics and colors haz.

Thank you, my friend.


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Post by: MavRick on March 05, 2018, 01:44:35 PM
Hey Haz, the colors look great, love the Prophecy!


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Post by: Master Medwyn on March 05, 2018, 09:39:49 PM
I'm going to be showing only one shade of a colour at a time as by photo it's near impossible to tell apart one red from another side x side and so on.  
Some colours are duds, for the most part I'm impressed and these have met my expectations for quality colour filtration and brightness.

So starting off this time around ...

Scarlet #024 x 1(filter) (has a pink hue to it)

(https://i.imgur.com/KcqhgwR.jpg)


Dark Green #124 x 1 or 2.  Solid.

(https://i.imgur.com/JXoxffu.jpg)


Bright Pink #128 x 1 or 2.  So good!

(https://i.imgur.com/sht99oL.jpg)


Rust #777 x 1

(https://i.imgur.com/8GukIqe.jpg)


Shanklin Frost #717 x 2 (icy blue)

(https://i.imgur.com/TYrehad.jpg)


Dark Lavender #180 x 1

(https://i.imgur.com/cexRISs.jpg)


Lime Green #088 x 1 or 2  Also amazing!

(https://i.imgur.com/dTXARXI.jpg)



Yes, the Lime Green and Bright Pink are the most evenly lit I've seen in these colours and indistinguishable from a dedicated LED IMO.  #leeforthewin.

More to follow  8)

Had to bump these pictures, this page is so empty without it  :)
That Prophecy is magical! I wish I had mine in tri-cree!


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Post by: hazard502 on March 05, 2018, 10:09:42 PM
Hey Haz, the colors look great, love the Prophecy!

Thanks a bunch, Mav really appreciate it!


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Post by: hazard502 on March 05, 2018, 10:14:05 PM
Had to bump these pictures, this page is so empty without it  :)
That Prophecy is magical! I wish I had mine in tri-cree!


Thanks very much, Master M! There shall be more filter colour examples coming in the near future as there's so many to try and share.

If in the future you're considering another purchase, you'll have to save up extra and order a Tri-AS LED too  8)

In fact I'd like to order a standard AS LED to compare performance.


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Post by: Karmack on March 06, 2018, 09:43:28 PM
Hazard, those are great pics!  I've been using straight-up Yellow (101) for SY but I am going to give Rust (777) a try.  And my daughter loves the Hot Pink!  And I'll be cutting the Lime Green and Lavender for my collection as well.  :-)


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Post by: hazard502 on March 07, 2018, 12:37:46 AM
Karmack, thanks so much!  I should've raved about the Rust colour filter because it was pretty fine I believe, and I'm STILL excited to try and display the other yellows including Yellow (101).  I'd like to know what you think of Rust once you give it a go(?) :)


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Post by: Karmack on March 07, 2018, 03:46:54 PM
Hey Hazard!

So I tried the Rust (777) filter, and I really like it!  But I wouldn't call it "yellow".  The color actually reminded me of a really cool orange color, very similar to the Fire Orange blades I've had.  In fact, on my saber it showed as a nearly perfect match for Fire Orange.

The straight yellow filter (101) I still prefer for SY.  A VERY close second is one called "Oklahoma Yellow" 767.  I used 767 for a long time in another AS hilt I had, but I eventually sold that one and the person who bought it was in love with the yellow blade so I sent the filters with it.  :-)  So I no longer have enough of the 767 filter left to make a blade filter, and I can't justify getting another swatch book for one filter.  Another one I've tried is Lee Yellow (765) which is very close to standard Yellow but maybe just a bit more golden.  Also a nice color.

I'll try to get a picture of 101 and 765 side-by-side, as I have them in my twin Catalysts right now.  :-)

And I took a picture of the rust and yellow (777 and 101) in the same hilt, same conditions, for a side-by-side comparison.

First the Yellow 101.  These pictures are VERY close to how they look to my eye, particularly the reflection from the tower the saber is leaning against.  This yellow is very "lemony" yellow.  And very bright but still a nice rich color.

(https://i.imgur.com/vn6GLoi.jpg)

And second is the rust 777.  This one looks more like Fire Orange to me, but is also a very rich color and fully saturated, not washed-out looking.

(https://i.imgur.com/jc8In55.jpg)

Anyway, I hope this helps!  And again, great post on the greens, pink and purple!  Looking forward to trying those out!


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Post by: hazard502 on March 07, 2018, 10:19:45 PM
Cheers!

Very nice comparison ... and the reflection on the tower is doing a shockingly good job of showing the colour on camera (a method some deem ... unnatural  :P).

I like this back and forth though, the Rust I tried was in my bedroom with a very woodsy tone and I may see more orange in better lighting conditions.


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Post by: hazard502 on March 11, 2018, 02:46:12 AM
Here we are with round 2 using Lee Filters and this time with a midgrade blade, so lets get right into it.  I'll give a few impressions afterwards.  I didn't have enough light in the room and the pics are a big over exposed because of it.


Argent Blue #525 x 1 (filter)

(https://i.imgur.com/aFOd583.jpg)



Rose Purple #048 x 1

(https://i.imgur.com/2rpnc0r.jpg)



QTR Mustard Yellow #643 x 1

(https://i.imgur.com/zrFcEEH.jpg)



Flame Red #164 x 1 or 2

(https://i.imgur.com/nFGpwFS.jpg)



Fern Green #122 x 1 or 2

(https://i.imgur.com/bgvJ4dJ.jpg)



Light Rose #107 x 2 (Pink)

(https://i.imgur.com/0siD5FR.jpg)



Steel Blue #117 x 2 or 3

(https://i.imgur.com/MfDNqj2.jpg)


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Post by: hazard502 on March 11, 2018, 02:56:06 AM
The stand out colours this time were Flame Red, Steel Blue and QTR Mustard Yellow (btw greens are always good, we'll just leave it at that :) ).

It's clear to me that while a few colours look good in a MG blade ... UE blades are the better choice here.  The colours are brighter and cleaner looking all around and I think I'll need to go back and re-use the filters in this round in an UE blade to get the most enjoyment out of them.

It seems yellows and pinks are consistently good after trying different shades of each - if these are your primary/favourite blade colours then I recommend you pick up a Lee swatch for sure.

I'll be doing another run of colours, excited to try more reds getting into darker shades of those and some more of those pinks(!)  :D


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Post by: Taegin Roan on March 11, 2018, 02:57:30 AM
I agree, the Steel Blue was definitely my favorite of the bunch. Another great batch of pics though.


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Post by: Rapine on March 11, 2018, 08:12:53 AM
More awesomeness from Haz!

That flame red looks cool. :)

Fern green!  :P

+1 Haz.


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Post by: hazard502 on March 11, 2018, 07:20:39 PM
Thank you, gents!


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Post by: hazard502 on March 12, 2018, 05:37:43 PM
Just noting that I've started checking the last batch of colours in an UE blade and the results are most satisfying, having shown these colours in true HD lol.


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Post by: Karmack on March 12, 2018, 08:09:03 PM
Nice batch!  I have to agree on the Steel Blue, that's an AMAZING color!  But I liked the mustard yellow and the light rose as well.  That very light rose color is a very unique color, wouldn't see many sabers with that!  :-)


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Post by: hazard502 on March 12, 2018, 11:26:26 PM
Thanks my good man  :D

So far this has been a lot more fun than I thought. I've only gotten through the first 3 colours with the UE on this most recent run ... Most impressive!


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Post by: Mielikki on March 14, 2018, 09:40:19 PM
How did you order a sample book from Lee's website? I can't seem to find that anywhere.


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Post by: hazard502 on March 14, 2018, 10:41:14 PM
How did you order a sample book from Lee's website? I can't seem to find that anywhere.

It was a totally random link I found doing a google search. I thought I was looking at a store website that offered the booklets but it ended up being an order form straight from Lee USA. TBH it felt fake and I wasn't sure if I was just giving my money away to the internet lol. Then I got a proper invoice emailed to me so then I knew it was all good.

Long story, not a lot of useful info lol. I'll have a look and try and find the correct link and report back.


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Post by: hazard502 on March 14, 2018, 10:53:25 PM
This is where I purchased my Lee Filter swatch book -

https://shop.leefiltersusa.com/main.sc


I picked up the Swatch Book - Designers Edition for $2.00.


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Post by: Karmack on March 15, 2018, 02:47:00 PM
Thanks for the link, Hazard!

I also have the Designers Edition.  For the same cost ($2) there's a LOT more options than the color disks.  Be aware, though, you can only get two or maybe three filters from each swatch.  If you want to do multiple sabers with the same color you might want to order 2 or 3.


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Post by: Mielikki on March 15, 2018, 03:02:03 PM
Thanks very much! Can't wait to get the saber my daughter ordered. Initiate LE v2 with Tri-Adegan Silver.


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Post by: hazard502 on March 15, 2018, 10:56:14 PM
You guys are welcome!

I had to put a decent amount of focus in getting three filters off one swatch, and it didn't always work out either.  Great advice on ordering extra booklets, Karmack.


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Post by: Karmack on March 16, 2018, 06:49:36 PM
Yeah.  The sad thing is the Lee swatchbook has about 500 filter swatches, of which you'll end up using about 10.  :-)  But its very hard to get more than two filters from each swatch, they're only about 3 inches long and about 1.5 inches wide.  And one end has a hole in it, so...  :-)


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Post by: MavRick on March 16, 2018, 09:17:28 PM
That still sounds like a pretty good deal for $2. That is a lot of color choices.


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Post by: Dyllan-Ame on March 16, 2018, 11:45:56 PM
After reading about the LEE filters on the forums I decided to buy two books and it is SO FUN being able to try out new colors with the adegan silver blade I got on my mystery box saber.  I just got the filters so I've only tried a few colors, and there are so many more to choose from.  Thanks for posting all the tips & suggestions 


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Post by: hazard502 on March 17, 2018, 07:29:51 PM
That's exciting, Dyllan!  Now that's getting the most out of a MB saber  :D


I've got another batch of colours coming soonish, just have to wait for the right lighting conditions to take good pics.


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Post by: hazard502 on March 18, 2018, 03:54:28 AM
Round three people!  Back with a good 'ol UE blade and there were a few that once again pleasantly surprised with their vibrant brightness.


Cold Lavender #703 x 2 (filters)

(https://i.imgur.com/P6DykWl.jpg)



Ald Gold #550 x 1 (yes it's bright)

(https://i.imgur.com/Bhv4Yq2.jpg)



Fire #019 x 2

(https://i.imgur.com/mvsAgvK.jpg)



Sunset Red #025 x 2 (orange)

(https://i.imgur.com/uokFuiR.jpg)



Soft Green #322 x 1 (like SRD)

(https://i.imgur.com/q3Boer0.jpg)



Follies Pink #328 x 1 or 2

(https://i.imgur.com/t3dCQBZ.jpg)



Spring Yellow #100 x 1 or2 (lime yellow)

(https://i.imgur.com/aTNAr11.jpg)



Medium Purple #049 x 1

(https://i.imgur.com/AItTU5o.jpg)



Burnt Yellow #770 x 1 (goldish)

(https://i.imgur.com/BYfdVK0.jpg)


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Post by: hazard502 on March 18, 2018, 03:59:53 AM
Soft Green ... Boom!  8)  possibly the best example of a SRD colour I've seen in person.  One filter keeps it on the green side and two on the blue - weird but that's what it does.  Spring Yellow - the yellow version of a Lime coloured blade, so cool.

I need to do more searching in the Swatch for blues as I've found the ones I've pulled and tested to be a tad underwhelming except Steel Blue #117 which is like AB.  I also feel the same about the purples, they photograph well but in person they're a touch too washed out.  There are so many more of each of these to try yet so my own filter book will be expanding once again.

To reiterate - the yellows and pinks are ridiculously good IMO with greens coming in as solid all around.

I also need to try more reds ... if I remember right Karmack said they underperform and he's right.  You CAN get beautiful reds but in order to do so you need to double up on filters and because of that they're just not bright enough to enjoy more than a short span.

It's trial and error really and this doesn't even come close to trying different shades or colours together.  This just means that there's a lot of fun to be had  8)


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Post by: Rapine on March 18, 2018, 10:44:50 AM
Right on Haz!  Soft green does look excellent!  Wow!

I don't mind fire...it does look dimmer though.

Great stuff though, and an excellent resource.

+1


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Post by: hazard502 on March 18, 2018, 03:30:36 PM
Thanks, brother  :)

One filter for Fire returns the brightness but the colour gets too whited out.


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Post by: Lady Agana Kath on March 18, 2018, 03:35:03 PM
Awesome Haz! I'm really attracted to the Cold Lavender and Sunset Red, a pity they are not as good looking irl.


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Post by: hazard502 on March 18, 2018, 03:52:00 PM
Thank you!  I agree ... I guess it says something that VA and DVA are hard to attain bright rich colours by LED so filtering for the same wouldn't be so easy.


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Post by: MavRick on March 18, 2018, 05:09:59 PM
WOW Haz, those are some cool looking pics!  :o
 Some of those look really nice and the reflection on the wall is usually a good rep of the color in person.
 Have you found a purple that looks like Mace Windo's saber?
 The two pics look close on here but not sure about in person.
 Perhaps one of those cold lav and a med purple filter?  MTFBWY!


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Post by: hazard502 on March 18, 2018, 07:17:36 PM
Thanks so much, Mav.

Thus far the purples have either a white or blue to them, not the deep rich yet bright purple like Mace's.  I'll need to keep looking through the book to find a purple I'd enjoy using regularly, something to the quality of what your talking about.  This would include trying a mix of different purples too, thanks for pointing that out.


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Post by: Karmack on March 19, 2018, 07:33:55 PM
Follies Pink is the one my daughter chose for her pink blade!  :-)  Awesome picture!

And I am SOOO  trying that Ald Gold 770...


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Post by: hazard502 on March 19, 2018, 10:41:04 PM
Follies Pink is the one my daughter chose for her pink blade!  :-)  Awesome picture!

And I am SOOO  trying that Ald Gold 770...

Burnt Yellow 770 or Ald Gold 550?  ;D


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Post by: Karmack on March 20, 2018, 01:39:59 PM
LOL  Both probably.  :-)


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Post by: Mielikki on March 20, 2018, 08:38:15 PM
I'm looking forward to getting my swatch books. Two books for $9 is an awesome deal.

Thanks for the help in getting them.


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Post by: Saso Is-kor on March 20, 2018, 08:41:31 PM
This thread is super useful Haz, it's pretty much the definite guide to filtering Adegan Silver to its ultimate potential. Keep up the fantastic work.


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Post by: Karmack on March 20, 2018, 09:10:41 PM
Agreed.  This one should be pinned...


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Post by: Mielikki on March 20, 2018, 09:11:45 PM
This should be pinned!


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Post by: MavRick on March 20, 2018, 10:25:56 PM
INDEED!


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Post by: hazard502 on March 20, 2018, 11:33:18 PM
I'm looking forward to getting my swatch books. Two books for $9 is an awesome deal.

Thanks for the help in getting them.

You're most welcome, Mielikki.  I'm excited for what you'll discover and I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on what you like/dislike.  Pics perhaps?  :)


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Post by: hazard502 on March 20, 2018, 11:34:31 PM
This thread is super useful Haz, it's pretty much the definite guide to filtering Adegan Silver to its ultimate potential. Keep up the fantastic work.

I'm honoured by the sentiment, Saso .. thank you.


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Post by: hazard502 on March 20, 2018, 11:39:47 PM
Thanks for the pin suggestion you guys that means a lot coming from you all.

My fire for this little adventure hasn't been stayed and I'm anticipating adding more content (them blues and reds cannot hide forever :)).

Also, there could be an opportunity for others to share their Lee/Roscolux filter pics here as well.  As simple as an AS LED filtered in a different hilt style could be inspiration for someone on the look out.


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Post by: IjediOctar on March 21, 2018, 02:09:49 AM
A color log book, really nice. Saber colors are radical.


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Post by: JediXIX on March 24, 2018, 03:53:04 AM
Dropping in to say EXCELLENT thread brother . . .  8)


This icy blue tone . . . it's calling to me  :)

Shanklin Frost #717 x 2 (icy blue)

(https://i.imgur.com/TYrehad.jpg)



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Post by: Dauntless Seven on March 24, 2018, 04:16:11 AM
Thanks for the pin suggestion you guys that means a lot coming from you all.

Also, there could be an opportunity for others to share their Lee/Roscolux filter pics here as well.  As simple as an AS LED filtered in a different hilt style could be inspiration for someone on the look out.


Hi Haz.  Definitely in agreement... this is really outstanding information and photos.  Let's see if I can do this pin/sticky thing lol.  Am going to have to purchase a Prophecy just like yours soon.  I do have some regular single diode AS sabers.  In fact the first US I bought years ago was with a white blade and GB FoC.  It's fun to see what color the flash will become with a filtered white main LED.  Think that one needs the tri to get the best effects.  :)



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Post by: hazard502 on March 24, 2018, 04:21:36 AM
Dropping in to say EXCELLENT thread brother . . .  8)

This icy blue tone . . . it's calling to me  :)

Thank you, my friend!


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Post by: hazard502 on March 24, 2018, 04:24:08 AM
Hi Haz.  Definitely in agreement... this is really outstanding information and photos.  Let's see if I can do this pin thing lol.  Am going to have to purchase a Prophecy just like yours soon.  I do have some regular single diode AS sabers.  In fact the first US I bought years ago was a white blade with GB FoC.  It's fun to see what color the flash will become with a filtered white main LED.  Think that one needs the tri to get the best effects.  :)


How excellent!  Thanks you, D7!

The Tri is proving a good companion ... I'd like to try the single AS too one day.  Having one with FoC would make for excellent effect I imagine.


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Post by: Rapine on March 24, 2018, 06:12:47 PM
Well this thread isn't stickied yet, but certainly gets my vote for being so...

Letting D7 get there though. ;)


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Post by: hazard502 on March 24, 2018, 06:15:14 PM
Thanks, bro  :)


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Post by: Dauntless Seven on March 24, 2018, 07:37:59 PM
Umm... I stickied it last evening.  Will try again and if I'm unsuccessful... Rapine please do the honors.  :D

Sorry Haz.  :)


EDIT:  Just checked again and this topic thread is definitely showing as stickied or pinned.  :-\

Haz... your subject thread is at the very top of the Gallery 1st page... you want more lol ?!  ;)


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Post by: Rapine on March 24, 2018, 08:04:05 PM
It is indeed.  It wasn't showing as that way before - at least not for me, but cool. :)

Yay Haz! 

+1 bro. ;)


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Post by: hazard502 on March 24, 2018, 10:05:55 PM
Lol ... that's lots you guys, thanks again!


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Post by: Therion Jinn on March 25, 2018, 02:10:52 AM
Hey, you earned this.
There was a lot of work that went into posting all of those pics


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Post by: hazard502 on March 25, 2018, 03:10:28 AM
Hey, you earned this.
There was a lot of work that went into posting all of those pics

Appreciate that, Therion thank you.


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Post by: hazard502 on March 25, 2018, 03:36:52 AM
The journey continues ...

A few days ago I really went after those blue filters cutting out another 12 shades/variations.  I have proof - of course this isn't all of them  ::)

(https://i.imgur.com/Y8tkY7e.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/WwOmqEv.jpg)



Why?  The blue filters are like the red ones; one is a tad too washed out and using 2 makes it too dark.  So I did some more looking around to find a single blue that's a DARK blue but still bright.

Results - fail  :-\  You can tell the darker blues have potential but they get too dim to be effective unless that's how you're willing to role.


What blue filters DO work good?  The ones meant to be light blue - like AB, Sky Blue, Caribbean Blue (not a thing, but I can tell you can picture it ;D).  Also, filters that are Teal/SRD are quality.

Here's a decent example of a good light blue, with the second pic focused on the blade so you get a good idea of the actual colour.


Bright Blue #141 x 1

(https://i.imgur.com/6b8pI4f.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/z6xC3ZI.jpg)


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Post by: Taegin Roan on March 25, 2018, 03:58:01 AM
Informative once again. I especially liked this.

Caribbean Blue (not a thing, but I can tell you can picture it ;D). 


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Post by: Rapine on March 25, 2018, 11:15:46 AM
Excellent Haz. :)  OOO - Caribbean blue!  Yes please.


I was just thinking to myself a day or two ago, that other that the "electric" or "lightning" shades of blue, we're kind of done there...lol  I myself would REALLY like to see a good, bright, deep blue.  Like twilight.

Another spectacular round though, so another big ol' +1. :P

(I notice that your circles aren't perfectly round.  What are you using to cut them out?)


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Post by: Therion Jinn on March 25, 2018, 03:07:50 PM
I can definitely see where the dark blues might run into troubles.
Again, thanks for sharing


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Post by: hazard502 on March 25, 2018, 07:18:10 PM
Thanks gents :)



(I notice that your circles aren't perfectly round.  What are you using to cut them out?)


I'm using an US plastic filter as a template to trace then just using scissors to cut them out. The ones that are really out of shape is me trying to squeeze a third filter off of a swatch :)


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Post by: Rapine on March 25, 2018, 09:02:37 PM
AHHH.


I instantly thought of of a metal punch deal, that you'd just hit with a hammer.

+1 bud. :)


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Post by: hazard502 on March 25, 2018, 09:56:15 PM
We might even have a craft 1 inch hole puch somewhere, Lord Bladewraith has that video tutorial he made on using one for this (can't find his atm).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTCAbcYU2js




Or this 1 inch punch  :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAUehkTi2D8&list=WL&index=13&t=0s

 


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Post by: Son_Of_A_Sith on March 25, 2018, 10:07:56 PM
That's a nice blue! I'm gonna try that one out right now haha


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Post by: Karmack on March 26, 2018, 02:38:49 PM
LOL  I use a blade plug to trace a circle on the gel and then cut it out by hand.  :-) 

I've had the same problem with any gel that's supposed to be a truly dark color.  Dark blue is the worst, but dark green and dark red, dark purple...  They all dim to far to be really good.
But there are dozens of lighter colors that work well.  The filters really shine, though, with teals and yellows/oranges, and light lavendar colors or pinks.  The red-end of the spectrum works better, I think, and "mixed" colors, colors that are a mix of red, green and blue somehow, filter better because you're letting more of the spectrum through the filter in the first place.  When you go for blue or red or green, you're automatically screening out 2/3 of the spectrum from a white light.  From my Emerald, it seems that a brilliang, vibrant yellow is red + green + a little bit of blue.  So a yellow filter is only screening out part of the blue and letting everything else through.  Hence its the best, brightest color to filter.

OK, science lesson done for the day.   :-)


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Post by: Xamon on March 27, 2018, 12:43:20 AM
We interrupt your regularly scheduled broadcast with this unimportant announcement:
So I finally got my lee filters and have a suggestion, Artic blue with 767, 768, or 769 for those of the corrosive sith persuasion.
We now return to your regularly scheduled program already in progress.


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Post by: hazard502 on March 27, 2018, 01:04:01 AM
We interrupt your regularly scheduled broadcast with this unimportant announcement:
So I finally got my lee filters and have a suggestion, Artic blue with 767, 768, or 769 for those of the corrosive sith persuasion.
We now return to your regularly scheduled program already in progress.

Ahhh nice tip, Xamon thanks 8)


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Post by: Rapine on March 27, 2018, 11:14:48 AM
Hey cool Xamon. :)

I like your post format too...lol

+1


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Post by: Dauntless Seven on March 27, 2018, 03:02:26 PM
Hey Xamon... where's the photo to back up your claim ?!  ;)

Guess it's on you Haz since it is your thread.  Still say that the effect won't be the same for a single white diode.  :)



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Post by: Mielikki on March 27, 2018, 03:52:01 PM
I'll have to try the Fiskar's punch.

I got my swatch books yesterday. For the darker blues, have you tried one blue disk and one of the neutral density filters? May eliminate some of the washout.


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Post by: Dauntless Seven on March 27, 2018, 04:50:48 PM
Unfortunately the Fiskar's punch has a rather large casing... therefore more difficult to place on that small filter size to get the most circles.  If you just want x2 gel discs then you will have ample room.  You should be able to find a bottle cap or something that is close for tracing.  If you want to actually place the disc lightly into the blade opening... then the US plastic disc size will work.  May be more challenging to remove later.  

One should use the 3/4 " punch as the 1" circle can be a tight fit and almost impossible to remove later.  As you will see on my photo there is a range of sizes that are needed for the various emitter styles.  If you make them too small... the disc can shift off the LED and not give as good/intense of a color as there could be.  

How about using that either metal or plastic plate that has various cut out circle sizes.  Could take a pen or some kind of scorer to make the circle on the gel filter.  Michael's crafts sells the plastic version.  :)


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Post by: Rapine on March 27, 2018, 05:19:18 PM
How about using that either metal or plastic plate that has various cut out circle sizes.  Could take a pen or some kind of scorer to make the circle on the gel filter.  Michael's crafts sells the plastic version.  :)

Or just "trace" it with an exacto knife.  ::)


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Post by: Dauntless Seven on March 27, 2018, 05:51:01 PM
Or just "trace" it with an exacto knife.  ::)


In areas other than Hoth Ontario a scorer is often an exacto knife... oh the things I shouldn't have to explain lol.  :P

But on a more serious note because the exacto tip is not circular like a pen tip or even a metal dental pick... it may be more difficult to maneuver for a smoothly cut round shape.  ;)

Sorry Haz... but you know how it ( he ) is sometimes...  ::)  ;D


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Post by: hazard502 on March 27, 2018, 05:58:43 PM
For the record - I'm quite ok if people wanna share their filter pics here, would add more content and keep some fresh air in the place :)



*



I didn't trace with a blade plug because it made the cut-outs too tight so the stock US filters seemed like a good compromise. Though in Sabers with MHS emitters there is the risk of them sliding out of place because of the larger surface area compared to the space in an MLS emitter.


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Post by: hazard502 on March 27, 2018, 06:01:45 PM
I'll have to try the Fiskar's punch.

I got my swatch books yesterday. For the darker blues, have you tried one blue disk and one of the neutral density filters? May eliminate some of the washout.

Not so sure that a neutral filter would bring back any vibrancy with a blue one, but further cut down on light exposure(?).


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Post by: Mielikki on March 27, 2018, 06:20:17 PM
It may, but sometimes a reduction in overall intensity can allow the colors to saturate better.


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Post by: Witchpig on March 27, 2018, 11:49:36 PM
Beautiful! The green looks quite nice! (I am biased, it is my favourite saber colour.)


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Post by: Xamon on March 28, 2018, 12:28:40 AM
I would post a pic of the colour if I could remember what host I was using for pics.
and no a n x-acto knife is a hobby knife, This is a scorer http://www.buyolfa.com/olfa-pc-l-model-1090486-plastic-laminate-cutter.html (http://www.buyolfa.com/olfa-pc-l-model-1090486-plastic-laminate-cutter.html)
There are several variations of them by assorted manufacturers. (and suddenly I hear crocodile Dundee in my head)


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Post by: Dauntless Seven on March 28, 2018, 12:36:32 AM
You are from Hoth Ontario as well.  ::)   Moving on.  :)


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Post by: Rapine on March 28, 2018, 12:41:30 AM
That's it - D7 gets all the snow from now on.

Not Vancouver; not Victoria...oh no!  Just her. :P


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Post by: hazard502 on March 28, 2018, 12:23:12 PM
It may, but sometimes a reduction in overall intensity can allow the colors to saturate better.

Ah ok then, would be interesting to try.


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Post by: hazard502 on March 28, 2018, 12:24:30 PM
Beautiful! The green looks quite nice! (I am biased, it is my favourite saber colour.)

100% agree!   :D


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Post by: Xamon on March 28, 2018, 01:18:13 PM
Actually I am from BC I just currently live in Ontario.
Oh and Picture:

(https://i.imgur.com/szugFoq.jpg)

It really does not do the colour justice but it is the best I can do with my ancient equipment. My camera is giving it a bit of a blue shift, it is a bit more towards yellow in person.


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Post by: hazard502 on April 03, 2018, 10:40:46 PM
Nice looking green blade, Xamon ... looks nice in that midgrade blade too.


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Post by: Xamon on April 04, 2018, 12:51:42 PM
That is actually a non-ultra heavy blade.


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Post by: Karmack on April 04, 2018, 01:21:30 PM
Hey Xanon!  Glad you got a good green!  I haven't tried the greens yet, but my quest for a deep purple from a filter is, I am afraid, doomed to fail.  I have found a nice violet, though.  :-)


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Post by: Malik Thanewulf on April 12, 2018, 10:49:36 PM
think ill change up my blades and see which i like better. thanks.


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Post by: Zren Tobas on April 14, 2018, 11:53:24 AM
Green and teal makes a nice cyan color =]


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Post by: Infinit01 on July 01, 2018, 10:50:38 PM
Green and teal makes a nice cyan color =]

I would love to see this color if you have a picture of it


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Post by: DarthTavion on July 17, 2018, 08:48:17 PM
That yellow looks awesome. Someone needs to come up with a way to cut the Lee filters that works like a hole punch for paper binders, but sized right for saber blades.
I've had the US colour filters for awhile and had only tried them with a midgrade blade (my preferred type) and liked maybe 2 colours they produced.

Recently I tried using an UE midgrade blade and the results were vastly different, in a good way.  So many more colours came alive and very likely due to the different type of diffusion white polycarbonate provides.

Why I took so long to try this I don't know.

So I took pics with all the US filters in an UE midgrade blade.  There's more but I'll touch on that in a bit ...


(https://i.imgur.com/Oe4jh0b.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/nC2jVsx.jpg)



(https://i.imgur.com/CKL5T8l.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/z2f4J5y.jpg)



(https://i.imgur.com/JcVEJgD.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/bQMFzzj.jpg)



(https://i.imgur.com/3XOHTab.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/6d9gCzs.jpg)



(https://i.imgur.com/wSdiJ7K.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/53pY0IM.jpg)



(https://i.imgur.com/uG0lhRJ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/4tBZTwb.jpg)



(https://i.imgur.com/wFcxpgl.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/tKxYbDg.jpg)



Ok, it's not all of the filters.  Some of them are so close in colour that on camera you can't tell the difference and those are more in the pinks/purples.  Speaking of which, the pink/purple filters are the weakest showing as very washed out and really not too pleasant to use.  The green/teal/yellow/ filters are much better - showing truer colour while at the same time being bright.

So if you're going to use a midgrade, the colours that work are yellow and teal/SRD and they look good.  The UE provides more range with these particular filters.

I've finally gone and ordered a swatch book from Lee Filters.  For those that don't know these are light filters for stage use, they can perform under high heat, are bright while keeping truer colour.  There will be an overwhelming amount of shades to try and I plan on updating this thread as I experiment with them and with different blade types.  

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Post by: Greywolf on July 18, 2018, 12:28:38 PM
That yellow looks awesome. Someone needs to come up with a way to cut the Lee filters that works like a hole punch for paper binders, but sized right for saber blades.

Like that one?
https://www.amazon.com/EK-Tools-Circle-Punch-1-Inch/dp/B00C90WM14
(Just google for '1 inch hole punch' and you'll get plenty of results...)


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Post by: Solstice Lacer on September 02, 2018, 09:25:21 PM
This is quite a helpful thread, thank you


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Post by: hazard502 on September 03, 2018, 03:54:27 AM
This is quite a helpful thread, thank you

That's a great compliment, Solstice thank you  :)


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Post by: StoryDtechtive on December 21, 2018, 08:56:48 PM
I’ve heard of Lee’s filters, but wasn’t quite sure how they worked. Looks like a book will be in my future :)


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Post by: hazard502 on December 23, 2018, 04:59:49 PM
It's something different to try and I think you'd have a lot of fun with the variety and quality.


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Post by: eratosthenes on January 21, 2019, 02:20:36 PM
I have a cree-tri in adegan, as well. I couldn't make up my mind for color and wasn't ready to go for emerald/diamond.

The Lee and Roscolux filters are loads of fun! Figuring out which ones have the best brightness/color has been a bit of an adventure. Looking for a red that comes off as just red (and not pink) has been difficult. Other colors have been pleasant surprises.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7805/45773149725_9cb38a842d.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cJPmGD)
This is Indigo #59. About as dark as you can get. Almost (but not quite) like black light. The reflection in the window is what it looks like more than the direct image.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7874/45773151405_395ea9f2d6.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cJPncB)
Chroma Green #389

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7826/45773153495_911aec82f2.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cJPnPD)
Deep Straw #15 (my favorite)

Now I'm thinking I'll develop a Sentinel character/outfit just because I like the gold so much.


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Post by: Solstice Lacer on January 21, 2019, 09:40:02 PM
Nice eratosthenes

I found 106 - Primary Red - to be quite red instead of pink
(http://i.imgur.com/qLZ9Euv.jpg)


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Post by: haydendavid380 on January 28, 2020, 03:46:01 AM
Here my AS Apprentice is on the right with a single blue disc. This is the single LED not the tri with a standard mid-grade blade. It came out to a very nice Arctic Blue. My wife's Aeon in Guardian blue is on the left with a single red disc. The colored LED's are noticeably dimmer than the silver, I'm still recommending they would be nice to have with any color saber for the added versatility.
(http://i.imgur.com/TZmZhaF.jpg)

Here is a single purple disc. A nice violet amethyst.
(http://i.imgur.com/DaZSKK5.jpg)

Two red chips made for a nice fiery red
(http://i.imgur.com/cX2WDx1.jpg)

A green and a blue made something close to SRD
(http://i.imgur.com/8s9FH63.jpg)

and lastly two yellow discs made a color as bright as a "Rey" of sunshine....or a color to guard the Jedi Temple  :D
(http://i.imgur.com/NGpZfRM.jpg)


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Post by: hazard502 on January 28, 2020, 05:52:25 AM
This is great  :D


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Post by: Infinit01 on January 28, 2020, 11:52:33 AM
This is great  :D

Agreed!


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Post by: Galef on January 28, 2020, 12:45:55 PM
Something I mentioned in the other thread that is that I'm starting to notice the color discs might look better in SINGLE AS rather the Tri-AS. US may have originally designed the discs to be used with the single LED, and so they are more saturated with the single.

Tri-cree with discs looks washed out in comparison because it pushes more light through, which is why Lee filters work better as the block more of then unwanted colors.

I've got a single AS stunt saber ordered for my wife and I'm now glad I didn't spring for the Tri-cree.

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Post by: Karmack on January 28, 2020, 05:37:15 PM
Something I mentioned in the other thread that is that I'm starting to notice the color discs might look better in SINGLE AS rather the Tri-AS. US may have originally designed the discs to be used with the single LED, and so they are more saturated with the single.

Tri-cree with discs looks washed out in comparison because it pushes more light through, which is why Lee filters work better as the block more of then unwanted colors.

I've got a single AS stunt saber ordered for my wife and I'm now glad I didn't spring for the Tri-cree.

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Even with Lee filters colors can get washed out sometimes.  But with the filters you can double them up, too.   I've done that with light colors, and had good results.


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Post by: Galef on January 28, 2020, 05:59:05 PM
I'm really anxious to try mixing some of the lighter colored discs myself. I've seen tons of pics and vids that mix some of the darker discs, but not many that mix the lighter ones. And none as far as I remember that weren't using Tri-cree.
The Single AS with 2 light colors discs might be the right combo of saturation without too much dimming

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Post by: hazard502 on January 29, 2020, 12:17:00 AM
I've wondered if my Tri-AS draws more power and, it may be a "fuller" white but maybe not much brighter than a single AS module. The same battery power to run through a single white dye could be just as effective but with slightly different results in how it appears. My son is waiting for his Fallen in a single AS LED to ship, I'm excited to compare both kinds.


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Post by: Metal Mech on January 29, 2020, 04:06:04 AM
I just ordered my first tri-Cree ever and it’s the AS. I’ve been told that they will light up the longer blades better. I do have a 40” blade I plan to test on to see if that’s actually true or not.


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Post by: BaliMawr on August 23, 2020, 04:17:51 AM
Something I mentioned in the other thread that is that I'm starting to notice the color discs might look better in SINGLE AS rather the Tri-AS. US may have originally designed the discs to be used with the single LED, and so they are more saturated with the single.

Tri-cree with discs looks washed out in comparison because it pushes more light through, which is why Lee filters work better as the block more of then unwanted colors.

I've got a single AS stunt saber ordered for my wife and I'm now glad I didn't spring for the Tri-cree.

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This is interesting.  I have a single AS stunt on the way, and was starting to have regrets about not getting the tri-cree.  Not sure how much I'll USE the color discs, but I got them anyway.  :)


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Post by: BaliMawr on August 23, 2020, 04:30:03 AM
Is it just me, or are the Lee and Roscolux filter books all sold out/on backorder?  I found one somewhere on sale for $2.50, but they wanted like $25 for shipping!  Anyone have a secret source? 


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Post by: Cyclops942 on August 23, 2020, 02:39:24 PM
Is it just me, or are the Lee and Roscolux filter books all sold out/on backorder?  I found one somewhere on sale for $2.50, but they wanted like $25 for shipping!  Anyone have a secret source? 

Try here:   https://shop.leefiltersusa.com/LEE-Swatch-Books_c4.htm (https://shop.leefiltersusa.com/LEE-Swatch-Books_c4.htm) — that’s where I got mine.


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Post by: BaliMawr on August 25, 2020, 02:32:20 AM
Try here:   https://shop.leefiltersusa.com/LEE-Swatch-Books_c4.htm (https://shop.leefiltersusa.com/LEE-Swatch-Books_c4.htm) — that’s where I got mine.


Out of stock.  ☹️


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Post by: Cyclops942 on August 25, 2020, 09:21:48 PM
Out of stock.  ☹️
Fooey...


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Post by: Red-Eyed Jedi on January 29, 2021, 03:02:16 AM
After reading through this entire thread I am so deeply compelled to get an AS saber and these swatch books you speak of.  These blade colors are all so beautiful!! I just received a silver prophecy in arctic blue in a mystery box and I so wish it were AS instead  :o Arctic blue is amazing though.


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Post by: Cyclops942 on January 29, 2021, 06:02:36 PM
After reading through this entire thread I am so deeply compelled to get an AS saber and these swatch books you speak of.  These blade colors are all so beautiful!! I just received a silver prophecy in arctic blue in a mystery box and I so wish it were AS instead  :o Arctic blue is amazing though.

You are right about that!


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Post by: DarthProdigal on January 30, 2021, 11:10:11 AM
After reading through this entire thread I am so deeply compelled to get an AS saber and these swatch books you speak of.  These blade colors are all so beautiful!! I just received a silver prophecy in arctic blue in a mystery box and I so wish it were AS instead  :o Arctic blue is amazing though.

Indeed. I have dual AS blades so I must dig up one of these fabled books as well (if they still exist in our current world/state of affairs). They are a double edged sword so to speak, the AS blades with color tinting I mean. The vibrancy of colors and the "fade/washing out" effect on some is markedly noticeable. Also having tested between UE and regular blades the difference is interesting. Note though that I only have standard AS not Tri so can't speak to the difference there. It's safe to say from experience and posts I've viewed Red is not the best color to try for sadly, at least in my experience/opinion. I still do want one of the Tri AS blades though. So far I love AS in orange or purple most, with greens and blues looking pretty dang good too. Just my 2 cents.