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I love hearing other folks' ideas for a standalone Star Wars movie, especially with Solo coming out sooner than it really feels. Do you have a particular character, event, concept, or piece of canon that you'd like to see on the big screen for two hours?

I know a Han Solo standalone film was a bit of a no-brainer, but what I'd really appreciate is a young Jedi Count Dooku swashbuckling around the galaxy fighting pirates, etc. Played by Benedict Cumberbatch, or someone similar. I say we need some of the prequel-era stuff filled in a little better like that.

I could totally get behind a Young Count Dooku (especially with Cumberbatch) movie. Personally I would love to see an Obi-Wan and/or Boba Fett movie. Mostly just because they would be awesome. But there are so many characters that could get their own movies. Mace Windu (because S.L.J. still wants him to come back ;D), younger Yoda maybe, there are just way too many.

I'm all for a dark-sider being featured. A tale of Palpatine's apprenticeship to Plagueis would be amazing on the big screen. Also echoing what Taegin said, Count Dooku is awesome, without a doubt one of the most interesting and underused characters in Star Wars. Even the Clone Wars series didn't give us quite enough of him in my opinion. There is something so interesting about a senior Jedi-turned-Sith with royal blood who is classy, sophisticated, and duels like a well educated fencer.

Move forward with their own characters. The universe has enough potential to explore. We don't need to keep shoving someone else's idea into an established character that wasn't made for it. I want to see what happens outside Republic space with Ezra, Thrawn, Sabine and Ahsoka. Or something like that with someone we barely know.

These are some INSPIRED choices (Benedict Cumberbatch as Dooku--or ANY Jedi/Sith TBH--would be AWESOME)!

Like TR, I would REALLY like another Obi-Wan feature; Ewan did such an incredible job AND he's aged with the character...

And Saso has some great ideas concerning the Dark Side!

But for myself: I would LOVE to see KOTOR with Jedi&Sith in power armor fighting e.g. the New Sith Wars  :)

I do agree with this. If we want SW to keep going, and stay good, they need to use new characters (like they did in R1). Still doesn't change the fact that I would like to see some already established characters get their own films though.

I want to see something from the old republic with Malgus, Arcen, Thexan, and Valen

Something looking at Imperial Officers could be very interesting as the story wouldn't necessarily have to follow the evil archetype and have a protagonist villain.

For instance, a personal favourite of mine is General Veers. We see precious little of him on screen (even though he's still an iconic character) and don't see him do anything villainous, really. The likes of Tarkin and Krennic wouldn't fit, but Veers, Piett, Jerjerrod are all officers who could have sympathetic stories (Jerjerrod WAS going to be quite 'grey' in deleted ROTJ scenes anyway).

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Seconded.

I don’t feel we need another Obi Wan story, but I’d love to see Ewan get another crack at the role if that makes sense.  The thing is, the cartoons have done a killer job with filling in the blanks (in my opinion anyway).  A movie centered around the clones, or even the 501st legions journey would be cool.  I doubt it would ever happen though. 

I agree and disagree with you about an Obi-Wan solo story movie. I really want one but only with Ewan. I want a movie that starts when he hands Luke over to Owen and Beru and ends with him saving Luke from the Tusken Raiders. They could do anything with those years. As long as they do a scene when Ben finds out Anakin is alive and has become the feared Darth Vader as we see him in A New Hope.

A movie about the clones or 501st sounds like an amazing idea!!

That's interesting, I was always under the impression that Obi-Wan just camped out on Tattooine all those years as he was staying close to protect Luke. And that the duel with *ahem* I won't spoil, towards the end of Rebels Season 3 was the most excitement he'd had in decades. Were there other canon or non-canon adventures of Obi-Wan sandwiched in there? Seems like a tough concept for a movie if he just sits around for years and clashes with the odd Tusken Raider, but I'm genuinely not sure. Then again, maybe a lot happened in those years that we don't know about, that the "Old Ben" persona was more than a "strange old hermit" as Luke puts it.

The Legends book "Kenobi" is a great story about what happened while he was on Tatooine. I also (though I haven't read them yet) know that he has an adventure in the "The Last of the Jedi" series. So generally it is assumed that he did something while on Tatooine.

Added to the reading list, thanks Taegin.

I'm reading the book about this now and it is a great read but not so sure it would translate well as a movie but I could be wrong.

I think one that would be cool is one centered around some unheard of Jedi fighting in the outer rim sieges, with the Colicoids and Annihilator droids. If you don't know what Annihilator droids are they are basically jumbo droidekas. one alone took out 3 platoons of ARC troopers on Colla IV

Obi wan and Made Windu..and i think netflix is comin out with a darth maul series which would be sick....but i dont know if that trailer video i saw was fan made or official. Hopefully it's real

sadly it was fan made

a darth maul one would be cool

The Force Unleashed. Just as it's told in the game.

that would be awesome!

Sadly, Comrade Mouse won't let that happen. >:(

thats a bummer. but we all know it would be awesome tho.

And then, and then, and then, and then, and then....we could have Sam Witwer do Starkiller. (Will the real Starkiller please stand up?)

lol

Well the "real" Starkiller was the early version of Luke Skywalker :P

It would have been weird if it was called "The Adventures of Luke Starkiller", so I'm glad they changed it.

This you have said before. But seeing as how it wasn't left incorporated into the story....

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Repulse was one of my favorite abilities in TFUII.

Repulse showed in the first game as well.

I haven't played the first one, so I can't say anything about it.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, If you liked II you HAVE to find some way to play the first one.
Pick up a used 360 or PS3 if you can. YOU MUST PLAY THIS GAME!

You poor thing. The first was the only one that should have been made.

The Force Unleashed numer one was definitely one of my favorite Star Wars games of all time! I would really love to see it made into a movie.

Other than that I would really go for a movie centered around an unknown young Jedi escaping Order 66 and trying to find others to help him fight the Empire even if we knew he/she'd eventually fail and probably die at Vader's hand. I knew as soon as I started playing TFU that my character was probably not going to make it as he'd have appeared in the OT otherwise...still I was completely on board with the story and really felt emotion for Vader's apprentice.
You could even add in things like encounters with other known SW characters while also showing that Obi-Wan getting a signal out at the end of Revenge Of The Sith did save some Jedi (I admit I haven't looked into what else happened between ep.III and ep.IV in canon besides Rogue One)

R2D2's backstory.

Appears in every film...

Pretty much most of what you just described is shown in Rebels.

Good to know. Guess I'll have to watch that.

Windu and the origin of the grapesaber.

Yoda, the double digit years. Party like your 99.

Fett, the story of a wounded bounty hunter who teaches a tribe of small furry creatures ground war tactics while he recovers.

Grievous, the story of how an arena fighter became a mechano-man that defeated multiple jedi for a master that keeps him supplied with what he needs to survive.

Palpatine, how a gungan broke his heart and he fell to the darkside.

You just reminded me of another great game arc that felt the purge. The story of Bounty Hunter: how Jango got the job.


:D ROFL +1

The one that takes a good four years to come out.  I'm starting to hit franchise fatigue.

Is there any SW material that explains to us how C3PO, a droid built by a rather skilled 10 years old slave on Tatooine, learned to master six million forms of communication?

If not, I think it might be interesting to have a movie of the adventures of R2D2 and C3PO, probably set between ROTS and ANH

Droids don't learn, they are programmed. More than likely it's a software package. Like most of the crap Anakin built, his proximity to a junk yard gave him access to parts that just needed a little love. My question is "what is the point of a slave building a protocol droid?"

Anakin said it was to help his mother around the house...  But that begs the bigger question: What kind of slaves have their own home (whether they own it or not) and seem to have free reign.  from all outward appearances they did not seem like slaves.  More like indentured servants or just very poor residents.

Sounds like part of the storyline from "Rebels".  I think one of the characters is a Jedi, or was a Jedi apprentice, who survived Order 66.

I know full well what was said. ⌐¿⌐ Why did it have to be a protocol droid. Why didn't he simply build a standard non-purpose-specific droid. "You, I suppose you're programmed for etiquette and protocol." - Owen Lars. Basically a protocol droid is tasked with making sure officials don't look the fool when dealing with customs of unfamiliar civilizations. Stuff like bow before the king, but don't break eye contact; when shaking the emir's hand, do not kiss above the second knuckle. And of course translating. I don't see the slave of a junk dealer having much use for a protocol droid. Oh well, I guess we made macaroni necklaces others build protocol droids. Still crap to give mom that she will never use. :P

I would like to see the Grand Admiral Thrawn trilogy as a movie along with the Emperor's Hand and Luke story just like the books.  That would be epic.

Considering those were struck from canon, don't hold your breath

Tell me about it. I want to see Thrawn played by Benedict Cumberbatch.

Apparently I'm not the only one who likes these proposals. But I would get rid of the pupils.

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If it can be screwed up, it can be fixed.

I'm not holding my breathe one bit but it would be awesome. That and the Force Unleash story would be awesome. 

Another story that would be great would be the Old Republic and the Jedi Temple or counsil origin.

You mean like a compilation of backstories of how the council members became council members?

I was always curious about that too. We do see a protocol droid serving drinks at the beginning of TPM, but that would certainly fall under the whole "etiquette and relations" function that they are built for. Would have been interesting to see 3PO actually doing menial labor around the house. It almost looked like that's what he was doing when he meets Anakin in AOTC, but he was probably just flirting with that Treadwell droid...  ;D

As cool as Cumberbatch is, I would just cast lars mikkelsen since he is already Thrawn in rebels.  Now, Cumberbatch needs to be in SW somewhere I feel....Revan perhaps

:-\......nah.

I wish there was a halfway decent picture of a blue Lars Mikkelsen to compare between him and Cumberbatch, I couldn't find a good one. Lars would also be my immediate choice but his facial structure is still a bit different from the cartoon. I came across the rumor that supposedly they used the basis of Lars' face for the actual character but can't confirm it. Still, it looks a bit different.

I'm just not seeing it.

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Thrawn's face has sharp angular features, that Lars just doesn't have. Not without severe prosthetics.

Pretty much, haha


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How about Christian Bale?

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Or Loki

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I'm 110% behind Mark Strong getting the role. He looks the part, sounds the part... he'd be just perfect. I mean if you pull up a side by side he has the same kind of face.

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I saw those too. And as much as I like C.B. as an actor, I think B.C. is just a better fit for the character. Plus he's got that cold malevolent baritone voice that made him so awesome as Khan. Tom as well is a capable actor as well, but still just doesn't have the presence I feel the character needs.

This has potential. But my vote is still for B.C.

Kahn, Smaug and now another Kahn....he's playing Shere Kahn

I can definitely see Mark Strong.  Loved him as Sinestro in the Green Lantern movie.  He would of been a great Yellow Lantern villain if the movie didn’t bomb


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When was this?

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I did not know, nice!


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Can't view ATM, but they're making another damn Jungle Book?

I have to say, Cumberbatch as Thrawn is brilliant casting...


...but so is Mark Strong.  Leave it to the community to come up with some truly inspired ideas  :)

The other one was just a live action version of the Disney Film, this is one "follows" the actual book and is directed by Andy Serkis.

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Interesting

Well who else is going to do it? ::)

Am I the only one here who wants to see a Mace Windu standalone film?

How he got his violet saber, how he invented Vaapad, how he came to be a Jedi Master?

This one looks really good, the other one was okay to me.  I watched it once and that was it.

this is AWESOME!! he would be the perfect Thrawn

I need a Boba Fett movie. The pre-Disney buyout of SW really had the full history of Fett nailed down. If they were able to make a movie of ANY part of that, I would be a happy guy.

I would definitely want to see a Boba Fett movie but would hope it was done right or else I would be very disappointed.

Prince Arcann

This

I like the way you think, Fedora.   Point incoming

Que?

From SWTOR

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Emperor Vitiate goes to the outer regions in a New body and starts  A New Empire and wages a war against The Sith and Republic.  its part of the Knights of the Fallen Empire expansion or SWTOR:



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This would be an incredible film. They could take a ton of concepts from James Luceno's Darth Plagueis novel for the script.

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Been meaning to ask about this; was it an essence transfer deal, or what. How else does a Sith become a Human?

IDK. I love the CGIs, but I'm not entirely sold on the story concept.

The Concept of the expansion or SWTOR as a whole?


As to the Emperor, forgive the copy and paste, time constraints.

"After a decade of uneasy peace, the truce collapsed, and open warfare between the Jedi and Sith resumed. The Emperor attempted to initiate his galaxy-wide ritual, but a powerful Jedi Knight known as the Hero of Tython thwarted his efforts and destroyed his Voice, a host body that encapsulated his essence and power, in battle on Dromund Kaas. His wounded spirit went into slumber on Yavin IV, but a returned and crazed Revan attempted to resurrect the weakened Emperor to a physical form to permanently destroy him. A coalition of Imperial and Republic forces, believing Revan's meddling would result in the Emperor consuming the galaxy, defeated Revan before the ritual began, but the Emperor’s spirit nevertheless fed off the battle and reawakened. Rejuvenated, the Emperor consumed the planet of Ziost to return to full power.

Valkorion once more, he revealed the Eternal Empire to the galaxy as his twin sons—Arcann and Thexan—invaded the known galaxy and captured a famous champion later known as the Outlander. Judging the Outlander alone to be a worthy adversary, Valkorion orchestrated his death at the hands of Arcann and embedded his consciousness within the Outlander's mind. Valkorion counseled and shaped the Outlander into a vessel of supreme power as the champion defeated Arcann, then his sister Vaylin, and disabled the Eternal Fleet. However, Valkorion then revealed his true plan—that he had allowed his children to ravage the galaxy so that, once overthrown by the Outlander, he would take over the champion's body and command the galaxy as a heroic liberator. In a final clash of wills, the Outlander, aided by Valkorion's own family, overpowered the ancient entity, sending him into oblivion. "

I honestly like it all and enjoy it. Prince Arcaan's story line is great and I think it would make an awesome live action trilogy that predates the three franchise. 

It's a neat overall plot, but......I found some holes (in the story or my knowledge of events).

Even though this is still non-canon:

1) Revan was left comatose and in the possession of Vitiate at the end of the book Revan. I would think this would make it a little difficult to fulfill this arc.

2) Consumed Ziost how? Ziost is populated and still exists in the events of TFU (as far as I could tell).

3) "Valkorion once more," How can he be once more before he just was? The Sith Emperor's name was Vitiate.

1)Revan was eventually released and tried to build an army at The Foundry, but was defeated by a task force.  He attempted to become one with the force but his dual nature prevented it.  His 'Dark" side remained in physical form while his "Light side" became one with the Force.

2.) It had been over a 1000 years between the time of SWTOR and TFU... the planet was still livable.  Not far fetched that people could have colonized it.

3.) He was both, at the same time.  Sometimes he would send his essence  to his Valkorion Body to build a rule the Eternal Empire then go back to his Vitiate body. 

So like Kame in DBZ, in an attempt to "purify" himself he unleashes his dark side upon the world in the form of Picolo.

True, I just needed clarification of "consumed"; physically or merely merely consumption of life force as he did originally on his home planet, leaving a hole in the Force.

Huh?!?  :-\

Sorry, yea he did the exact same thing he did to his home planet.    Vitiate could put his essence into other bodies.  He grew tired of the Sith and founded a new Empire using a different body.  He would hop between the two while he built his new empire. 

Yeah, that story alone would be awesome

Hmmmm..... By extension, was that a similar technique that he used to turn Revan against the Republic?

Aye, and similar to how Revan, while in stasis, attempted to influence Vitiate

Interesting

I will need to look into that.

One thing that opposes me to this arc is this:

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The owner of every saber, other than Malgus', was killed by Malgus. And he never struck me as the type to claim trophies. So where did the wonder twins get them? Zallow's especially, since after his death in the Jedi Temple, the temple was utterly razed.

Good question, I'm wondering that as well.

I highly doubt that those sabers actually belonged to those people. I think that the Jedi one was just a popular design and the sith is the same. if you look in the trailer where Arcann loses his arm, there is a red female Twi-lek who looks like she uses the lightsaber that belongs to Vindican. Malgus' I'm not sure.

I actually thought that she was using a Malgus copy. Maybe we're just over analyzing the images. ::)

That's what I thought at first too but the claws resemble Vindican's too well.

Yea, those are just reusing saber designs, most likely to save on animation costs.




Looks like a Malgus Clone to me

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Agreed. It's really to save on recreating a new saber and whatnot. Point

Damn you. I just found that image. Her name is Darth Atroxa.

But you know, Star Wars has never had strong interesting female characters until now....  :p

Again...bad writing. And beyond Ahsoka and Jin, I'm at a loss to find these strong female characters.

Srry, just got done with a "discussion" about how those of us that dislike Rey and Holdo...and the last Jedi just don't like strong women.

"Hello..McFly!"  Leia isn't loved just because she looked great in the Slave Bikini.  Not to mention ...ahem:

Bastilia and Satele Shan
Tenal Ka
Hera Syndulla
Jaina Solo
Mon Mothma
Admiral Daala
and of Course Freaking Mara Jade who's de-canonization single handedly cause many to write of the Disney EU all together.     Ugh  sorry  ..rant over.

Agreed, I often wondered why. It would made it a lot more interesting



Exactly.  I would like to see Mara Jade (obviously not happening) and Maul's mother. I bet that would be cool to see, a history of Maul's mother


Yes, Tenal Ka and Jaina Solo would be awesome! 

I'm not against strong women. Leia was a very strong character, even the young Leia from TFU. I'm against the predictability of the tropes that seem to litter the Disney canon. And even though I've only read one book with Jaina, I am beyond pissed that she and Mara are out, and all we get for influential female Force wielders are......Rey. :(

Exactly, I'm never one for a princess who always needs help.  Phasma alone gave a good idea that strong women are great and needed in the franchise, although they killed her.   Rey is pretty much the only Force wielder at this point. 

Despite hating the current trilogy, I don't think Phasma is dead...yet. But she's done absolutely nothing to show that she's earned the badass rep. I would love to see a character like that properly developed as a ruthless zealot. Like a female Boba Fett mixed with Capt. Rex. Oh wait.....they already had that....twice.

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I do hope that she returns, it would suck if it did going the Boba Fett route, well close to it.

Phasma's novel built some of her up, shes a survivor, at any cost.  She will do whatever, betray whoever to survive.  It even explains where she got her armor

Interesting thing about Phasma, I'm sure many of you remember the hype that she was getting before TFA came out: "she's the new Boba Fett!" or "one of the three people in command of the First Order is a woman!" or "the first true female villain is finally here, rejoice!" Then the movie came out and... it was like a strange bait and switch kind of joke. Of course there was talk that Phasma's inclusion was part of an agenda, but after TFA hit theaters it seems the opposite. It's like they went out of their way to make her useless, and then compounded the issue with her role in TLJ. So odd.... and I don't think she's dead by a long shot.

Back on topic, I'm halfway through Dawn of the Jedi - Into the Void and even though it isn't super good I really like the old-timey Star Wars feel. It takes tons of time to get between systems because I'm fairly sure there are no hyperdrives yet, and the Jedi (or Je'daii in the novel) don't even have lightsabers but classic metal swords. Seems unlikely that they'll go back that far into the mythos to make movies but it'd be cool.

that would be cool, but I doubt Disney would go for it.

I too hope for more screen time and action from Phasma other than her waling around or having a few sentences. 

Phasma seemed like an interesting character at first, but I'm not to big a fan of her. She had no development. Disney threw her in at the beginning with no context and she didn't really do anything during 7 or 8, she did have a scene that I really liked but it was cut from the movie, it was during her fight with Finn. I do not have a link but the vid is on youtube somewhere, and it was pretty cool.

If memory serves, this was a time before the hyperspace lanes were charted, and only Force sensitives were capable of opening up the "realm", and navigating it. Of course we are talking about a time period so ancient, TOR would still be classified as "current events".

I hope to see Disney realize the farcical folly of the current canon and reestablish a properly preened and pruned OC.

I too hope that Disney will one day wise up but I'm also not holding my breath

I can just see Ultron with the Rat's face; "I'll take the hope first." and we loyal fans being crushed under Sokovia.

Point for the accurate image there, Fedora.

Thank you Infinit. have one yourself.

EDIT: have one in an hour

Hearken to the OG.

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Yes indeed. 

2nd best star wars film right there. (just barely behind Empire)

Much lower on the list for me, I list based on enjoyment and ANH isn't one I can watch over and over.

I absolutely hated the deleted scene with Phasma and Finn. Absolutely terrible writing for that scene (unless we are thinking about different scenes).

She hardly had a story arc so it was hard to like her character since there really wasn’t anything to base it on. She was just there and gave orders here and there.  Her script was terrible at best, the book about her is much better than the cinematic counter part. 

If its the scene I'm thinking of, that actually meshed with the character they presented in the novel

I haven't read the novel, and the scene I saw a long time ago so I may have mixed up a few things but if I remember correctly it did show a bit more of her character (not really in  good way)

I think its safe to mention the deleted scene, its been well over a month since the dvd came out...but still if you dont want to know stop reading :P





If you mean the scene where Finn reveals what she did on Starkiller and she takes out her men....then it does mesh with what was shown in the Novel and her comic.

She survives at any cost and if she has to kill her own men to do it...she will.

I'm suddenly reminded of Boba Fett's rise to glory. He pretty much did the same damn thing Phasma did, and yet his appeal to the fans was unprecedented. I think one of the reasons for his rise versus hers is the costume. His costume had character to it: Wooliee braids, pauldron insignia, sneaky weapons, etc. Her costume: shiny armor (most likely due to high rank), cape (meh), standard blaster, only with chrome plating (to accessorize the armor) and car stock (that makes it "special"). The only real thing she had going was that she's an extraordinarily tall woman (which they already played out on GoT).

All of that.

Plus Boba Fett was always intended to be a cool background character, though he did rise a little in character development for his brief part in ROTJ. Phasma is one-third ruler of the First Order, not a background character and yet that's how they treat her. I think the whole Phasma/Finn conflict falls flat on its face because of her criminal lack of development. Unfortunately Hux gets the same treatment, he's as cardboard of a character as much as Phasma but with just more screen time and dialogue.

Her cape is to signify her Rank as Captain.  There was actually another Captain she killed who wore Red Armor with a cape.  Captain Cardinal.   As for her armor, she manufactured out of Palpatine's old Naboo Ship.  All this is in her Novel.






Hux came off as a competent villain in Ep7  It was a nice mirror to Kylo who wanted to be like Vader..Hux wanted to be like Tarkin (even had Tarkin's name on his uniform).   A three-way power struggle seemed to be building between phasma, hux and Kylo...BUT....Ep8 happened.

That's pretty cool that he had Tarkin's name on his uniform. Yet part of me groans upon learning that both Kylo and Hux are both wannabees. I kind of wish that Hux had been like 20 years older and a veteran officer of the old Empire. They wouldn't have been able to pull off the weird brotherly rivalry for Snoke's affections but the contrast between the old, seasoned Empire and Kylo representing the future would have been cooler to me. Meh.  

Edit: I'm not sure how a power struggle between the trio would have worked out. They'd have to bring the power that each individual represents to bear, otherwise in a one-on-one fight of course Kylo mops the floor. But then if the whole Stormtrooper corp is loyal to Phasma, Hux has say half the First Order, and Kylo has his (as yet MIA) knights of Ren... talk about internal conflict, it would have been epic.

Exactly. If she was really as badass as they built her up to be, she would have issued him as a new mop for his replacement in sanitation. Plus, if she survives at all costs: you have a truncheon, I have a blaster rifle and a squad of thugs. Hmmmm.....I wonder how this is going to play out. Same kinda thing in TFA: the only time she shows up alone is the time she gets attacked and forced to cooperate. Plus, let's face it, where is the computer security in this galaxy. I don't care if Snoke himself deactivated the shields, that didn't register elsewhere in a control room as fishy, and easily overridden?

Da fuq?


Meh. To me he was just another 2D villain. All his motives just said "I'm the bad guy, it's what I do."

Agreed, Boba Fett was a background character until he had a fan base that sprouted out of his small scenes.  Then novels and comic book stories came into the limelight building a character arc for him.  Phasma's story in the better is what should of been included into the last two installments or at least some flash back scenes to paint a better story.

Like that was likely? It the same stupid thing as to how the "map" to Luke was found. Would have made for a better movie had they explained how and why, as opposed to "we have this thing that will instantly solve everybody's problem of the F.O." News flash, the general movie-going audience doesn't want to read to get the full story. NTM, how is there a map to a single person in the galaxy.......that doesn't want to be found? :-\

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I won't argue that it improved on her character, but the whole scene was terrible, right down to the way it was filmed. It just looked fake. If they had done everything up to the point where she kills the other troopers, and then changed the camera shots they used to explain how she killed them, I would probably have a higher opinion of it. Plus, there is no way that the blaster Finn shot Phasma with at the end would have made her go flying back as far as she did. Even Chewie's bowcaster isn't that powerful, and bowcasters are one of the most powerful weapons in the galaxy.

The map was to the First Jedi Temple.  That just so happened to be where Luke was. 


Question?



I actually don't mind 2d villains...plus it makes perfect sense.  He was raised in the FO and only knew that under the tutelage of  his ahole father that hated him.

Still makes no sense that if he didn't want to be found, why he would have told anyone where he was going, and then they could have found maps to any of a trillion different locations.

1) What would be the significance of making armor out of an old Nubian ship hull?
2) What is the significance of it being Palpatine's?
3) Why did we need another useless throwback?

Meh. Too Hilter-esque and cliche.

That lies on RJ.  JJ had a planned reason for why Luke was there.  When RJ was given free reign he decided the only reason Luke would be there was to Die.



Basically Phasma comes from a planet that was decimated by a Nuclear disaster.  The factory was a droid factory that the FO had tried to get up and running until the accident.  Palpatines ship was there because the FO officer had it.  When Phasma left her planet to join the FO, she stripped the ship. Used what basically amounted to a giant 3d printer to scan her normal FO armor and stamp out new armor made from the metal from the ship.  It was somewhat symbolic for her..I'll have to go back and read it to give you a 100% clear answer.



And that's a bad thing?  I don't mind cliché's either as long as they work.  and that worked for me.  "relatable" villains are the cliché at this point.

JJ started the cock-up. "I'm Luke friggin' Skywalker. I'm disgraced and morose and don't want to talk to anybody. Why do I tell anyone where I'm going or what I'm seeking, giving them a clue of where to find me when I don't want to be found?" If there are ways to get lost on just this planet, surely there are ways of being hopelessly unable to be found in a whole galaxy far far away.


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Meh. Too stretchy.


I don't need relateable, just more than "I'm the bad guy, it's what I do." I want purer motives. Like with Sidious, his ends were total control and to rule forever. (2D) Bane, however, understood that power is a means to an end. "Congrats, you now have control over everything. What are you going to do with it?"

Or look at it from a different perspective. In Ready Player 1, before meeting Art3mis, Parzival (2-dimensionally) wants to win for the prize alone; he wants the money cuz he's spent his life being poor. After meeting Art3mis, and realizing what is really at stake, he wants to win in order to maintain what makes the OASIS great and loved by everyone, and to prevent its inevitable perversion by IOI. His motives now have depth, making them 3D. He's no longer fighting for himself.

My preference for 3D characters is equal for both pro- and ant- agonists.

maybe something like a fight club kind of thing, it isn't in-universe of course but it's with a bunch of jedi/sith who just fight it out. I saw the CW do something like that with it's heroes and it was pretty cool.

Just a film(s) following the War between the Jedi and Sith would be nice....

it would! maybe something like what was in the old republic cinematics. I want a movie of those so much.

The split of Force users which ultimately became the Jedi and the Sith would be cool. A trilogy of how these beings came to be and split ways leading into the division of Force sensitive individuals

I want to say the first Great Schism happened like some 9000 years BBY. To put that in perspective of the most popular sections of the timeline, Revan happened like 3800 BBY.

I’d say a first trilogy if the Great Schism and then the more popular period like 3800 BBY

If I remember correctly there was a splitting Of ways as far back as back as 20,000 BBY but the "Dark Jedi" that would eventually become the Sith happened around 9000 BBY.  Current canon is basically a stripped down version of the Old EU with no definitive date put to it.

EDIT:  I just checked and the First Schism Happened around 25,000 BBY During the Force Wars of Tython, it ended with those who wanted to follow Bogan (The Dark Side) being defeated by the Light side followers, this lead to the forming of The Jedi Order.  Then in 24,500 BBY Some Jedi took up the Dark Side and were also destroyed.  Then in 7000 BBY The group of Dark Jedi that would become the Sith were formed.

I would love to see the Rakata getting overthrown by their force sensitive slaves.

That would be cool, maybe a trilogy of histories of some of the more unknown worlds

What about the cheese?

I'd like a live action movie of what happened to the 501st after order 66 as they hunted down the remaining Jedi.

I feel like this would make a good 3-4 season tv show.

Maybe with a crossover with "The Mandalorian"?

Not likely seeing as the Mando takes place after ROTJ AFAIK.

Ah. I was unaware of that.

Would be awesome if it could happen though.

That it would. ooh I want a Republic Commando movie/TV show/just about anything actually

Anything from the Old Republic, not picky haha. TOR, KoTOR, Bane, and a ton of other great characters and interesting story lines to pull from.

You can sit next to me. ;D

More I hear about possible TV shows, the more I want Obi Wan to be a limited series.

An Obi Wan trilogy would be cool. The movie would be him as a child/teenager and getting trained by Qui Gon, sequel would be him and Qui Gon having more adventures and the third would be him spending time post ROTS and watching Like grow up along with his last battle with Maul.

Just me though and I understand Disney wouldn’t do it and would make one movie with everything I mentioned if they decided to versus a trilogy but one can always be hopeful  :D

Thats a really cool idea

Thanks, Fedora!

no problem. I really hope someone from Disney comes on here and sees all these amazing ideas

Agreed!

now I will go to Disneyplace and hand out every Ultrasabers business card I have

I like it. Point!
Though I would maybe change it a little and have it that way as to the movies in the trilogy:

1) Child/teenager: Before TPM, being taken into the Jedi Order, training, being picked by Qui Gon as his Padawan and going on missions with him.

2) Grown Up: Between TPM and AOTC, his adventures as a Jedi, having Anakin join him as his Padawan on missions (could give more meaning to what they talk about before meeting Padme in AOTC).

3) Older: Between ROTS and ANH, looking over Luke, fight with Maul, some interactions with Qui Gon as a force ghost would be nice.

Thank you, I'm glad you like the idea as well.  I really like your detailed description of each potential film making it even better!  Point for that!

Thank you  :D
Those a three different moments of Obi-Wan's life that I feel all deserve to be addressed. I'd be really interested in seeing him grow towards the Jedi Knight he is by the end of TPM (maybe confirm to us all that he was always quite gifted at mind tricks  ;D might give rise to fun scenes). Then his Jedi Knight and teacher years before AOTC would provide some nice adventures while showing him struggle to go from student to teacher (which can't be that easy a task). You could even throw in a little more of Yoda and Mace Windu (plus other known Jedi in the Prequel Trilogy) guiding him.
And finally, though he mostly spends his time in exile on Tatooine between ROTS and ANH, many would love to see what really happens. We know he fights Maul again. A falling out between him and Owen Lars, maybe saving Luke from the shadows while staying hidden, or having to eliminate a threat to his secret...seeing Obi-Wan become Ben basically would be cool.

I completely agree, and they don't have to add Anakin in a whole lot either and focus primarily on Obi-Wan's story from childhood until he sacrificed himself on the Death Star.  Also show where he went as a Force ghost. That would be cool

get our first glimpse of the Netherworld of the Force

Exactly

I've always wondered what that looked like.

Right?  Is there a Jedi Temple there where they all hang out and meditate?  Are there Force lightsabers there too? 

Not sure about that one.
I like it as a mystery and I fear anyone attempting to show it in a movie would probably ruin it (and possibly face even harsher comments than Rian Johnson did)

Agreed, I was just being silly about it all.  :D  It's one of those things that people will hate whatever direction it goes

I think that would make for an interesting series. TCW meets Seal Team. Just don't jump the damn shark too early.

Fat chance.

What?

I envisioned the "nether" of the Force to be an omnipresent realm that defies time and space. The manifestation of the "spirit" is nothing more than the Force's memory of the individual. Basically, what was in them while living never dies. It simply moves on to become part of the whole (aka the Living Force). I also envision these "spirits" to be similar in power, if not more so, to the entities of the Mortis arc. A saber would be a moot point. But it would be awesome to see one extend a finger and push a blade back into the hilt without effort. (This may have already been done)

Wow, complements of the Mortis arc from Logos! Look now fellows, because you may never see this again. ;)

I'm being sarcastic  ;D


Not to be taken seriously my good man but good point on it all.


I screenshot this....

I already took like ten and emailed them to my friends.

As a Force vision and representation, the story made total sense. As and actual place with actual flesh and blood characters...it was stupid. Trust me, I wanted to hate it.

What wasn't to be taken seriously?

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how did you know?!?!

He's saying that he doesn't like you.  The rest of us do  8)

Cuz you hang out with us. :P

good point. most of my friends are on here anyways.

See, you do have friends.

yay!

Here’s my list... something solely on the sith, something during the old republic, a Darth Vader movie like solo, botta fett movie, and my stretch goal that is nothing but a pipe dream but an hbo like mini series kind of like band of brothers that follows a unit of clone troopers (possibly the 501st) and showing the transition from rupublic troops too the empire from there perspective! God that would be amazing!

It would be a little different, but I'd love to see a horror/suspense style film where Vader is essentially the unstoppable threat. A concept where you have some survivors of Order 66 being relentlessly hunted by Vader; maybe a Jedi Master who has managed to find a group of 4 or 5 padewans, whose Masters have already been killed.

I think by placing Vader in that "killer" type of role, you could create something legitimately scary with thick suspense; but appropriate for all ages, or at least 13+. It's also a way you can involve more Vader and have a Vader film, yet the film isn't really about him as much as it is the Jedi running and fighting for their lives. In actuality, I think it would be more effective if you didn't see Vader all that much.

That would be badass! Only thing i'd add to that is it's a double trap - Jedi are trapped somewhere with Vader, but Vader has been trapped there too by Palpatine to test him - but only reveal that right at the end - great idea DPM. 

I kinda like that idea too DPM. Would be interesting for sure.

And then Broba's miniseries like BoB would be awesome.

Agreed, I like an anthology Order 66 film with Vader leading and hunting down the Jedi and the remnant of them. This will give them a chance to showcase Vader in his badassery like the glimpse of him that we got to see in Rogue One.  I also think, Vader starting out with hunting the Jedi with the saber that he ends up pulling and corrupting the crystal from to build his own saber would be a good start.

I like this idea. Of course I've been pushing for an R-rated SW movie for sometime.

the  you could see the side of SW that they can't really show in a Pg-13 movie

Yes. Let the Dark Side flow. >:D

Agreed, it would be a boon to the franchise if done right. 

One story that could be cool fitting with that darker theme is a film version of 'Nomad' - and EU comic series check it out of wookipedia - as a one off it would be perfect i think almost a straight adaptation (only 4 parts so ould be done in a 2 hr or so film easy).  Personally i think it was one of the best SW comics ever made, has some darker tones but still very Star Wars.

Unfortunately i don't think Disney will ever go for that more adult market in a big way, they may toss a few scraps in that direction but not enough to satisfy...

Well back to the fan fiction to do what they won't LOL.

I would love to see two "R" rated TOR trilogies, a light side trilogy and a dark side one that focuses on their upbringing and their perspectives

Already working on an R-rated Sith story. Not so much in language, but the violence would go all the way up to Deadpool.

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Logos is quite creative when it comes to using the Force to maim and kill >:D

Logos, finish yo book.

A SW movie with tons of language would just turn me off to it (same with sex and nudity). I have no desire to see those things in one of my favorite series, but a movie rated R for violence would be just fine.

I don’t think any of us care about nudity or gratuitous swearing in a SW movie. I wanna see a lightsaber do DP level of slicing and dicing and the Force used creatively. Choaking, throwing and lightning is a good starting point but I wanna see the Dark Side get down and dirty >:D

Exactly. Seeing some hardcore, realistic sith battles would be absolutely amazing.

I agree. For me, things that make an R-rating, when used without purpose, just make for a bad movie.

The end of Path of Destruction, when Bane bodily crushes Qordis, and leaves him a bloody and broken heap. >:D

Uhh. . . . SPOILER ALERT!!!
 >:(

 ;)

Though seriously, I still haven't gotten the chance to read them, so yeah.

My bad. But that is only a small glimpse of the awesomeness that is Darth Bane.