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Way of the Saber => Saber Combat => Topic started by: Gym Kirk on April 16, 2018, 04:54:17 AM



Title: Importance of balancing the saber
Post by: Gym Kirk on April 16, 2018, 04:54:17 AM
For dueling it seems real important to have the balance point of the saber at the choke point by the emitter. I would expect that a full sized mid grade should balance at the choke point. Do any of the ultrasabers do this? It seems like the other guys all balance above the emitter. I’m surprised that there aren’t pommels available made out of heavier metals to balance the blade better. Am I alone in this consideration? I’ve posted elsewhere and emailed manufacturers, and they don’t seem to share the importance of this idea. My Initiate v3 balances above the emitter with a 32” mid grade blade. I plan on using a thinner fencing blade for this saber, which I’m hoping will balance. I want to get a two handed dueling saber.


Title: Re: Importance of balancing the saber
Post by: JdiKnhtJMH on April 16, 2018, 06:14:13 AM
Balance is indeed important. a lot of U.S. hilts and lightsabers in general dont take this into consideration, but one thing I've noticed is that you can add steel socket pieces meant for a socket rench into the pommels of some sabers to add weightr, the reaper is good for that. I've also had some luck with cutting off parts of the emitter to balance them. There are also sabers that are naturally well balanced or near to it like the archon. If youre interested in a specific saber that I own I can get it out and check the balance for you if youd like to know to help you buy.


Title: Re: Importance of balancing the saber
Post by: Greywolf on April 16, 2018, 11:37:01 AM
As far as I know the location of the balance point really comes down to preference:
I think most saber manufactures place the PoB similar to the one of 'regular' martial arts weapons.

Side note:
Most two-handed swords have their PoB somewhere between 3 and 6 inches after the cross, Montante being an exception with 1 to 2 inches.
        (see e.g. http://www.regenyei.com/en_twohanded_custom.php)
'Regular' sabers vary quite a bit, too, as their PoB may be anywhere between 2 and 6 inches from the guard.
        (see e.g. http://www.regenyei.com/en_saber.php)
-> In that regard 'our' light sabers are quite 'realistic' ;)

On topic:
I love the idea of heavier MHS-compatible pommels (e.g. made of steel) as this would making a dedicated spinning / flow / contact saber much easier!


Title: Re: Importance of balancing the saber
Post by: Gar-Wi Musan on April 16, 2018, 10:28:07 PM
As far as I know the location of the balance point really comes down to preference:
I think most saber manufactures place the PoB similar to the one of 'regular' martial arts weapons.

Side note:
Most two-handed swords have their PoB somewhere between 3 and 6 inches after the cross, Montante being an exception with 1 to 2 inches.
        (see e.g. [url]http://www.regenyei.com/en_twohanded_custom.php[/url])
'Regular' sabers vary quite a bit, too, as their PoB may be anywhere between 2 and 6 inches from the guard.
        (see e.g. [url]http://www.regenyei.com/en_saber.php[/url])
-> In that regard 'our' light sabers are quite 'realistic' ;)

On topic:
I love the idea of heavier MHS-compatible pommels (e.g. made of steel) as this would making a dedicated spinning / flow / contact saber much easier!


Good point about the heavier pommels. I have an Aeon V4 with a Catalyst pommel and 32 inch blade, putting the balance point right at the emitter. I find this is perfect for me because it reminds me of a well balanced Katana and I personally like to hold a saber about as high as possible for single hand. But heavier pommels would be great for contact work.