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Hi all! Minor issue, the cable I received with my sound saber via the checkout selection process does not fit the soundboard interface slot. It seems to be a different type of connection cable required, can anyone feed me some aid? The cable US sent me seems to be a micro USB and not a mini USB.

I apologize for the double post, turns out the cable is for the battery charger I purchased, I’m just dumb.

Cables can be confusing. I'm glad you got it sorted out though. :)

Even if the cable for the charger had fit the usb connector on the card, it wouldn't allow you to access it. That cable only allows power for the charger, not data, so you would have needed another cable. Most stores carry affordable cables of various types, plus some devices you may have already will work.

Example: I had an old MYBook that used a mini usb cable and it works perfectly fine with my Obsidian V3 & V4 sound cards.

On a similar note to this, does anyone know if the diamond controllers use a different size? Because the one I ordered ([=https://ultrasabers.com/product/mini-usb-cord/]This one, which says it's compatible with obsidion sound board[/url) doesn't fit... :/

Answer: Whether it's supposed to be different or not, the size USB required for diamond controller is NOT the one listed om the site as working with the obsidian sound board... Not gonna lie, kind of pissed I spent money on it when it's the wrong size... I have literally nothing to use this cable for. I ended up going through the cable adapters that came with my Jedi Challenges headset to find the right size...

It uses a micro-USB like this one which much newer than the mini-USB: (Only the Diamond controller has this footprint)

(http://img.talkandroid.com/uploads/2017/03/micro-usb-small-featured.jpg)

Here's the mini-USB which is what you have: (The Emerald driver and Obsidian Premiums have this footprint)

(https://cdn.sparkfun.com//assets/parts/1/0/4/2/9/13243-02.jpg)

Well that's inconvenient :( wish they would sell both options...

Yep, it can be annoying. Several stores (too many to list) do sell different usb cables, plus many, many online webstores too.

Agreed

I have a lot of adapters because of my Jedi Challenges headset. I just wish it were more clear on the site so I wouldn't have wasted my money

Sorry to hear. I have an extra if you need one

Nah, I have one that fits. I'm just upset that it's not the one I paid money for.

Completely understand. I wish there was a standard that’s followed like cell phones, it’s either USB-C for new phones or Lightning chargers

That's the problem with electronics, there's no standard, because it's constantly changing. For UltraSabers to have the Obsidian V3/V4 cards updated with newer tech, it would be easier and cheaper instead to use other boards, like the competition uses -  just understand, UltraSabers is one company, alone, trying to make a living. Cell Phones are a whole different level of tech, which costs boat loads of money to develop, which is why they can use the newest connectors, faster chipsets, etc..

Note: over the last 40 YEARS, computer connections have changed many times. We went from 9-pin D-subport, mini-DIN/PS/2 port, serial/parallel ports, not to mention firewire port. USB did not become standard for decades, which started with usb 1.1, then 1.2, 2.0, to 3.2 which is current. Lightning, mini usb, micro usb are relatively newcomers to the field. All those changes didn't happen overnight & were very very expensive to develop.



I'm just surprised and happy that US makes the products they do, for the price they sell them for. Which is why I keep coming back to them.

That's the problem with electronics, there's no standard, because it's constantly changing. For UltraSabers to have the Obsidian V3/V4 cards updated with newer tech, it would be easier and cheaper instead to use other boards, like the competition uses -  just understand, UltraSabers is one company, alone, trying to make a living. Cell Phones are a whole different level of tech, which costs boat loads of money to develop, which is why they can use the newest connectors, faster chipsets, etc..

Note: over the last 40 YEARS, computer connections have changed many times. We went from 9-pin D-subport, mini-DIN/PS/2 port, serial/parallel ports, not to mention firewire port. USB did not become standard for decades, which started with usb 1.1, then 1.2, 2.0, to 3.2 which is current. Lightning, mini usb, micro usb are relatively newcomers to the field. All those changes didn't happen overnight & were very very expensive to develop.



I'm just surprised and happy that US makes the products they do, for the price they sell them for. Which is why I keep coming back to them.

Stupid double post.

Actually, there are standards to a degree. All PCs have USB ports standard for 25 years now. The power supply are proprietary to their brand alone which makes sense business wise.  Take cell phones for example, their chargers had no standard until the mid 2000s when most Android decides went to mini USB, then micro USB and now, USB-C.  Apple had their old apple charger until The Lightning charger came out years ago.

Yes, computers didn’t have a standard to begin with but then, the industry changed and they went from not
Having one and then in the 90s, standards like ACPI, AHCI, Energy star, ATX, BIOS, Integrated Drive Electronics (IDE, ATA/ATAPI, PATA), Bluetooth and USB

Let’s tjae the flash drive for example. We started out with  large floppy disks that started out as 8 inch, then 5.25, and finally 3.5 until CDs came out. There’s also the Zip drive that was short lived. That went on until DVDs and then BluRay but by then, solid state technology was already in its infancy in the form of flash drives thanks to Apple’s iPod tech. Computers went through all of those technologies and yes they were standards of their times speaking of solid states, look at hard drives, we we t from mere megs to, GB, and now we’re in terabytes and from actual moving disks to solid state drives now.

Computer changed from ports and connections aren’t that it wasn’t standard, it’s the evolution of these connections and ports. You just listed from the 9-pin which wasn’t efficient for that time period.  Each generation of ports are more reliable, more efficient, and much faster than the last.  That’s the way with USB, USB 2 was used widely until 3.0 came out but now USB-C is four times faster and it’s pretty the standard. Now, most companies are much slower to follow standards but you shouldn’t blame the lack of stabdarda in an industry when the manufacture doesn’t follow suit or is slow to change.   The industry is forever changing and manufacturers follow standards to keep up. Think about it, do you want to pay modern pricing for 20 year old technology let alone 5 year technology? I wouldn’t, technology evolves faster than man can buy or think. That’s the nature of it

Same thing with cell phones. When they first came out, all manufacturers had their own chargers and ports that was native to their phones alone. Then mini USB hit the market for non iPhones and the entire industry
Minus a few brands went that route followed by the micro USB that dominated the Android market until it evolved to the USB-C.  Speaking which, there’s only two major OSs for cell phones now, iPhone or Android but before there was Windows and BlackBerry in the market but they were popular and was killed off although in recent years, the Blackberry has made a return.  

My pint is that there are thousands if not millions of standards, most you won’t know or can’t tell u til you’re in the tech field or are just into it.

Not going to start an argument about technology. Different people, different ideas and viewpoints. All I wanted to state was that US could have the mini usb connectors updated on the Obsidian V3/V4 boards to micro usb, but is most likely keeping to the set up they have because; it works.

None taken. I added the newer version of USB tech into the wishlist thread since USB 2 is old and doesn’t work well