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Title: EVERYTHING GREAT ABOUT: SPIDERMAN - INTO THE SPIDERVERSE
Post by: Darth Knox on March 23, 2019, 06:38:16 PM
* Warning - Contains spoilers*
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Title: Re: EVERYTHING GREAT ABOUT: SPIDERMAN - INTO THE SPIDERVERSE
Post by: Infinit01 on March 23, 2019, 12:34:11 PM
I agree with all of it


Title: Re: EVERYTHING GREAT ABOUT: SPIDERMAN - INTO THE SPIDERVERSE
Post by: Darth Knox on March 23, 2019, 07:43:33 PM
Need to buy it on bluray (because discs RULE) so I freeze frame and catch all the tiny details they put in.


Title: Re: EVERYTHING GREAT ABOUT: SPIDERMAN - INTO THE SPIDERVERSE
Post by: Darth Tepes on March 23, 2019, 08:30:40 PM
Just rented it last night.  My expectations I cant say were low, I knew it would be a good film but was not expecting the "Wow" factor involved.


Title: Re: EVERYTHING GREAT ABOUT: SPIDERMAN - INTO THE SPIDERVERSE
Post by: Darth Knox on March 23, 2019, 11:21:53 PM
Just rented it last night.  My expectations I cant say were low, I knew it would be a good film but was not expecting the "Wow" factor involved.
Glad you enjoyed it. I think I said in my non-spoiler review that it was the best comic book movie of last year. Now you know why I said that. And one of the cleverest things they've done is establish the multiverse in an easy to understandable way, which opens up a lot of storytelling possibilities for both Sony and Marvel moving forward.


Title: Re: EVERYTHING GREAT ABOUT: SPIDERMAN - INTO THE SPIDERVERSE
Post by: scifidude79 on March 23, 2019, 11:32:55 PM
Definitely the best comic movie of last year. I picked up my Blu-Ray at work on Tuesday, as I was looking forward to watching it again. But, I also was smart enough to wait until last night, which is one of my nights off (the other is tonight.) I thoroughly enjoyed it the second time, just as I did the first.

I haven't watched the video yet, but I did see he posted it. (I follow his channel) I'll take a look at it later.

I was reading some of the history on Miles Morales on the Marvel Wiki earlier, and I like some of the stuff they changed for the movie. I think it works better than what they had for the comics. But, that's the advantage of adapting source material, you can tweak things.


Title: Re: EVERYTHING GREAT ABOUT: SPIDERMAN - INTO THE SPIDERVERSE
Post by: Darth Tepes on March 23, 2019, 04:29:55 PM
As much as I enjoyed it...I would still put Infinity War over it personally.  But thats just me.


Title: Re: EVERYTHING GREAT ABOUT: SPIDERMAN - INTO THE SPIDERVERSE
Post by: Darth Knox on March 23, 2019, 11:40:08 PM
But, that's the advantage of adapting source material, you can tweak things.
That's also the beauty of this movie. Who's to say that there isn't a "comic book accurate" Miles Morales out there in another dimension?

As much as I enjoyed it...I would still put Infinity War over it personally.  But thats just me.
Both movies are brilliant, for very different reasons. I will say I liked the emotional story in Spiderverse more than Infinity War. Plus, the voice casting was on point (Nicholas Cage and John Mulaney in particular).



Title: Re: EVERYTHING GREAT ABOUT: SPIDERMAN - INTO THE SPIDERVERSE
Post by: Darth Tepes on March 23, 2019, 04:48:19 PM
That's also the beauty of this movie. Who's to say that there isn't a "comic book accurate" Miles Morales out there in another dimension?
Both movies are brilliant, for very different reasons. I will say I liked the emotional story in Spiderverse more than Infinity War. Plus, the voice casting was on point (Nicholas Cage and John Mulaney in particular).



True enough.  Under the umbrella of "Comic Book Film" I prefer Infinty War.  But broken down both, in my mind, are in the same level of Logan.  Taking comic book inspired films to heights many though unlikely to ever happen.    Spoiler













The Post Credit scene with Spidey 2099 jumping into the 60s cartoon and acting out the meme made me spit out my tea.





Title: Re: EVERYTHING GREAT ABOUT: SPIDERMAN - INTO THE SPIDERVERSE
Post by: Darth Knox on March 24, 2019, 12:00:13 AM
The Post Credit scene with Spidey 2099 jumping into the 60s cartoon and acting out the meme made me spit out my tea.
Woah, woah, woah! Firstly, I thought it was illegal for Americans to drink tea. I thought you have devices injecting coffee directly into your veins?

Secondly, that scene was hilarious. And how awesome was it having Oscar Isaac voice Miguel.


Title: Re: EVERYTHING GREAT ABOUT: SPIDERMAN - INTO THE SPIDERVERSE
Post by: Darth Tepes on March 23, 2019, 05:02:43 PM
Woah, woah, woah! Firstly, I thought it was illegal for Americans to drink tea. I thought you have devices injecting coffee directly into your veins?

Secondly, that scene was hilarious. And how awesome was it having Oscar Isaac voice Miguel.

We drink tea...we just don't have a "Tea Time".  I drink hot tea (Chamomile) for my acid re flux.  But when I said tea...I meant Sweet Tea (or iced tea as Yankee's call it).

It worked, I was excited to see the 2099 suit on a film.....the only 2099 titles that was worth a damn imo.


Title: Re: EVERYTHING GREAT ABOUT: SPIDERMAN - INTO THE SPIDERVERSE
Post by: scifidude79 on March 23, 2019, 05:37:42 PM
That's also the beauty of this movie. Who's to say that there isn't a "comic book accurate" Miles Morales out there in another dimension?

I didn't even know Miles isn't that liked by comic fans. (CinemaWins taught me that) I've only really heard about him from friends and people at work before watching this movie. So, they probably made him more likeable in the movie. And, yes, Marvel's multi-verse is so well done that there can be endless versions of Miles out there. Hell, we saw three versions of Peter Parker in this movie alone. (four if you count the one in Spider-Gwen's universe) They even went as far as to give all three different voices, to punctuate the differences.


Title: Re: EVERYTHING GREAT ABOUT: SPIDERMAN - INTO THE SPIDERVERSE
Post by: Darth Tepes on March 24, 2019, 01:02:00 AM
I didn't even know Miles isn't that liked by comic fans. (CinemaWins taught me that) I've only really heard about him from friends and people at work before watching this movie. So, they probably made him more likeable in the movie. And, yes, Marvel's multi-verse is so well done that there can be endless versions of Miles out there. Hell, we saw three versions of Peter Parker in this movie alone. (four if you count the one in Spider-Gwen's universe) They even went as far as to give all three different voices, to punctuate the differences.

Miles...unpopular?  Since when?  honestly these movie Youtube channels just say things to have content or use their experience as the norm, it kind of irks me.  Miles had his detractors at first ranging from Extremists to those who were just unhappy that Peter died.  But he has gone on to become a very well liked character.  Maybe I'm guilty of the same thing I'm accusing them of but I have only seen positive feelings toward Miles from comic readers.


Title: Re: EVERYTHING GREAT ABOUT: SPIDERMAN - INTO THE SPIDERVERSE
Post by: Infinit01 on March 24, 2019, 01:19:37 AM
Miles has always been a fan favorite to myself and all of my friends that I know


Title: Re: EVERYTHING GREAT ABOUT: SPIDERMAN - INTO THE SPIDERVERSE
Post by: scifidude79 on March 23, 2019, 06:36:29 PM
Miles...unpopular?  Since when? 

I don't know, it was in that video.

Lots of things are supposedly unpopular, yet I personally know plenty of people who like them, especially movies.


Title: Re: EVERYTHING GREAT ABOUT: SPIDERMAN - INTO THE SPIDERVERSE
Post by: Darth Knox on March 24, 2019, 11:04:38 AM
Miles...unpopular?  Since when?  
If you know the channel, you will know the guy is not one for making statements purely for the sake of views. He is ridiculously positive, even in regards to some notoriously bad movies (you should check out his videos on the Star Wars prequels. He makes some good points about why there is actually some good in them).

It is true that there are some people out there who hate Miles for two reasons. 1st) Because he's not Peter Parker. 2nd) Because of his ethnic background. I think we can all agree that thee are two stupid reasons not to like a character. But it happens. Fortunately, it is a vocal minority, so has no bearing on anything. These are the same people who say that the Ghostbusters cannot be women, that Thor should always be a man and that anything apart from the original trilogy in Star Wars has ruined the franchise. They obviously like the status quo the way it is and do not like change or people trying something new. Yes, trying something new may fail, but that's no reason not to try.

Even though Miles is very popular amongst a lot of fans, there are still those who do not like the character. Which is fine. Just leaves more awesome for the rest of us.



Title: Re: EVERYTHING GREAT ABOUT: SPIDERMAN - INTO THE SPIDERVERSE
Post by: scifidude79 on March 24, 2019, 06:26:45 AM
Some people just take these fictional characters way too seriously. We're not talking about historical figures here, they can look like whatever or whoever someone wants them to. They aren't real. Also, it's not like Miles replaced Peter Parker in the Earth-616 universe, he's from the Earth-1610 Universe, it's a totally different reality. Peter Parker still exists in Earth-616. But, I digress. People will like or dislike something simply because they can, and that's all there is to it.

Judging simply from Into the Spider-Verse, I like Miles. I think he's a great addition to the Marvel Multiverse. I applaud Sony for making the decision to center a film around him, rather than yet another Peter Parker film.


Title: Re: EVERYTHING GREAT ABOUT: SPIDERMAN - INTO THE SPIDERVERSE
Post by: Darth Knox on March 24, 2019, 01:55:06 PM
Some people just take these fictional characters way too seriously. We're not talking about historical figures here, they can look like whatever or whoever someone wants them to. They aren't real.
This has always been my argument when discussing casting options with people. My opinion has always been cast the best actor you can in the role. Thanks to wigs/hair dye, wardrobe and a good personal trainer, anyone can be made to "look" like the character. What is more important is if they can capture the essence of the character. Plus, as you say, these characters are not real. So no actor actually "looks" like the character. Take Bruce Wayne for instance. The way he looks in the comics changes slightly depending on the artist who is drawing him. But he remains a fictional character.

I suppose I understand why people take these characters too seriously sometimes. We grow up using them as a form of escapism and entertainment. We are drawn to them as we feel a connection with them and through this connection we can feel like we're a superhero too. So any criticism of a character we love can almost feel like a personal attack.


Title: Re: EVERYTHING GREAT ABOUT: SPIDERMAN - INTO THE SPIDERVERSE
Post by: Golden Fedora on March 24, 2019, 06:47:22 PM
The Post Credit scene with Spidey 2099 jumping into the 60s cartoon and acting out the meme made me spit out my tea.

a bit late but I agree, This scene had me in stitches for at least 20 minutes.


Title: Re: EVERYTHING GREAT ABOUT: SPIDERMAN - INTO THE SPIDERVERSE
Post by: scifidude79 on March 24, 2019, 09:50:00 PM
I stayed in the theater for that post credit scene, so did a few other people. We were all laughing at that. ;D

This has always been my argument when discussing casting options with people. My opinion has always been cast the best actor you can in the role. Thanks to wigs/hair dye, wardrobe and a good personal trainer, anyone can be made to "look" like the character. What is more important is if they can capture the essence of the character. Plus, as you say, these characters are not real. So no actor actually "looks" like the character. Take Bruce Wayne for instance. The way he looks in the comics changes slightly depending on the artist who is drawing him. But he remains a fictional character.

I suppose I understand why people take these characters too seriously sometimes. We grow up using them as a form of escapism and entertainment. We are drawn to them as we feel a connection with them and through this connection we can feel like we're a superhero too. So any criticism of a character we love can almost feel like a personal attack.

One example I like to use of this is Hugh Jackman as Wolverine. People complained that he was too tall for the character. Oh, they complained endlessly. Yet, I'll bet a number of those same people had tears in their eyes at the end of Logan, as Hugh's casting as Wolverine was perfect. He looked enough like the character but, more importantly, his acting was spot-on as Wolverine. He had the essence of the character, which is way more important than his height. I'm sure there weren't any 5'3" (Logan's actual height, according to the Marvel Wiki) guys available who could have played that role as well as Hugh did. So, he was a bit tall. Who cares?


Title: Re: EVERYTHING GREAT ABOUT: SPIDERMAN - INTO THE SPIDERVERSE
Post by: Darth Knox on March 24, 2019, 10:48:41 PM
One example I like to use of this is Hugh Jackman as Wolverine. People complained that he was too tall for the character. Oh, they complained endlessly. Yet, I'll bet a number of those same people had tears in their eyes at the end of Logan, as Hugh's casting as Wolverine was perfect. He looked enough like the character but, more importantly, his acting was spot-on as Wolverine. He had the essence of the character, which is way more important than his height. I'm sure there weren't any 5'3" (Logan's actual height, according to the Marvel Wiki) guys available who could have played that role as well as Hugh did. So, he was a bit tall. Who cares?
I initially complained about his casting, but all was forgiven when I watched the first X-Men. He perfectly captured the essence of the character, to the point where, as you said, most people probably forget than Logan is actually supposed to be short, stocky and Robin Williams level of hairy.

Also, I'm so glad we have gone away from the early 00s practice of black leather and have finally embraced the colour costumes from the comics. I mean, how awesome does Benedict Cumberbatch look as Dr Strange. If ever there was a costume that would look on-screen it would be his. And yet, with the eastern martial arts influence with the costume, it looked amazeballs.


Title: Re: EVERYTHING GREAT ABOUT: SPIDERMAN - INTO THE SPIDERVERSE
Post by: scifidude79 on March 24, 2019, 11:45:46 PM
"You actually go outside in these?"
 "What would you prefer, yellow spandex?"

 (I think I was one of 10 people in the theater who laughed at that)

Yeah, leather was a big thing in early 00s comic movies, as was copying the successful Batman color scheme. Like you said, it's good they got away from that.