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Hey all, been awhile since I did any saber art, and all the old threads are positively buried, so I'm gonna be trying to draw a few sabers out every week, and encourage you all creative types to join!

Todays is just a work doodle and not too practical, but I got thinking "what if you could half-sword a lightsaber?"

(https://i.imgur.com/qKksqVL.jpg)

That's a pretty nice size saber, good artwork

Sweet!   Does the blade pass through the upper section with an exposed area for blocking?

Yeah, that was the idea. Half-swording as a martial art is when you grip the blade of a sword for precision and aiming for weak points in armor. Obviously grabbing a saber blade could be problematic so i added a shroud.

I've thought a few times of doing a staff config with a 'blocking zone' in the middle, where you could use exposed blade or maybe a force field like a ghaffi stick to block.  My bo techniques use the center of the bow to block so often, its VERY hard to translate anything directly to saber staff...

yeah, the cue stick comes to mind.  Ahhh! My fingers!


I can see somebody trying shift their hand forward, on PS's design, coming short, wrapping their fingers and Ahhh! My fingers!

Still a cool design, just tricky to wield...

form over function. As such with a doodle

This is awesome PS!  This evinces me of an ancestral weapon of (or influenced by) some ancient Jedi/Sith.  I would love to see more illustrations of lightsabers!  Speaking of...

If you haven't already, I would HIGHLY recommend visiting For Tyeth's thread concerning lightsaber design; he's got some truly remarkable hilts already posted  :)

And I WISH that I were that creative!  I can't even draw stick figures... :P

This gave me a laugh  :)

...But, then again, think about the concept of lightsabers as a whole: really, REALLY, REALLY dangerous!  Which is why I'd always thought that wielding such a weapon (or at least with proficiency) would require something like the Force  ;)  Which reminds me...

Since the person(s) who would use this (awesome!) weapon would most likely be a Forceuser, I'm willing to allow my suspension of disbelief to be comfortable with the fact that they wouldn't wrap their fingers around the plasma blade  ;)

Again PS: I'd really like to see more of this (and other) design(s)!

Point!

Many Thanks! Ive seen Tyeth's thread and the man has talent no argument. Im hoping to post a drawing or doodle a few times a week here. Would love to see other peoples designs too! :)

Beautiful pike design! :D

Hello PsycoSith,

Thanks for the kind words on my work. And I am eagerly looking forward to seeing a few more of your designs. Altenweg is fantastic and even if it didn't have the "half sword" extension it would be a beautiful creation (I like slanted emitters, though I haven't posted many myself yet).

Thanks ^_^ was gonna get another one done today

Tried a different style today. Really pleased with it. Went for a shorter hilt and more "ramshackle" appearance for this one.

(https://i.imgur.com/WpfKDxW.jpg)

Nice PS!  I love the features you included and I definitely interpreted the "ramshackle" feel that you were going for; yet, it is still has an elegance about it. 

Once again, the attention to detail is fantastic!  I could see an itinerant Forceuser having constructed this while hiding out post-Order 66.

Point!

Appreciate it! :D

The Scrap Queen is my kind of saber!

I don't tend to view these as hodge-podge or cobbled.  I tend to prefer a mix of materials in designs (part of my steampunk aesthetic blending in).  The sabers that look like all one part are too ultra modern, iSaber if you will.  Looks like Steve Jobs cranked it out on a lathe and had it magically assembled in China with no screws visible.

Hello PsycoSith....I can definitely see this one somewhere in Nima Outpost! How many portions does it cost?  ;D

And I'd say it was "carefully crafted"
point on it's way to you.

I like this!    A lot!

Not only is it ramshackled-looking and has a definite "spare parts" feel ... it looks functional as a weapon.  The forward choke is well placed, the emitter is guarded to prevent accidentally cutting your own fingers off, and the loop on the pommel is perfect for a carry hook.

The armored wire harnesses for control runs and power busses just adds flare!   Nicely done.  :)   

These are awesome PsychoSith. I've got to agree with everyone else, I love the Scrap Queen. THat emitter especially.

Good point on the Nima outpost - would love to see a fully realized For Tyeth blender collaboration on this sabre.

Hey all! great to see the positive feedback from Scrap Queen! ^_^

Was at a convention this weekend and didnt have much time to check or post so to make up, I drew a paired hilt today. Tried to expand on the style I used for scrap queen while incorporating a different aesthetic for the hilts.

(https://i.imgur.com/QqEmNlI.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/lnWxulb.jpg)

These ones were inspired by an idea a friend once shot me: "what if you put a stungun on a lightsaber?" This got me thinking of crowd control hilts, designed to work at low power and incorporate non lethal ways of subduing foes into their design directly.

A saber hilt with a tazer in the pommel...   That could be very interesting.   Reminds me of the stun wands from "Demolition Man" in a way....

Interesting.

What would a saber/taser look like with both danger bits on the same end?  I'd think a grip might fit best when held one way, this putting both bits on one business end and merely changing modes.

Both of these look sharp.

Id have to imagine it would be a perpendicular structure to the blade. Kind of like the "bunny ears" on the Graflex but extended further out and away from the users wrist. That or incorporate a "stun" setting into the blade itself, I know this has been done in Legends with training sabers.

That answers an unspoken question I'd had.  How do they teach newbs to use a saber without lopping off parts.

Legends covers that alot. Basically theres two breeds of training sabers. One are basically just sword-length cattle prods. The other are very low-power lightsabers that can still burn but not cut quite as well. Though as the darth bane books point out, if you put enough "oomph" behind them they can still be lethal.

Also! The difference of quality with Altenweg was bothering me, so i gave it a quick update with pens and did some minor redesigns (lost the tsuba, added a grip & engravings etc)

(https://i.imgur.com/Is8W9xt.jpg)

Hello PsychoSith,

As I mentioned in my reply to you on my thread I really like "Bulwark" and the nautical influences. I had only ever put lighted crystals in my pommel designs  :)
A tazer is definitely different.

Interesting fact, the training sabers seen in the Prequels were actually built from the lightsaber hilt handles that came with "Jedi Force Power" action figures - the saber had a clip on the emitter to attach your figure to make a handle so you could use it as a puppet. (I think the figures were called the Jedi Force Power range) The props guys just broke the clips off and weathered the hilts. As the handles were padawan sized they didn't need to make  and cast bespoke new models. This is the reason we see them holding mini Qui-Gon Jinn hilts!

Thanks very much! The cutlass guard was a gamble but i like how it played out.

I actually didnt know any of that about the training sabers from the movies - the ingenuity of the prop teams @ lucasarts never failed us.

Hi PsychoSith,

We seem to be at cross purposes as you just posted Altenweg II as I commented. I like the two perpendicular grooves on the lower hilt, it reminds me of a Fallen saber  ;D  (And it looks a bit sleeker without the tsuba).

One final trivia note about the training hilts, after Qui-Gon died his saber was returned to the Jedi Temple were it was stored in the Temple vaults. And as an act of remembrance the Council decided the training hilts should be modelled on his weapon. Not sure it was ever confirmed as canon (I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere) but it would have been a nice story if true.

Hey all!

Got a couple things for you. First off, I've been playing a LOT of Ace Combat lately, and thus inspired todays sketch of the Razgriz.

(https://i.imgur.com/UBNVKIg.jpg)


Now here's the REALLY fun bit. For Tyeth took upon himself the project of rendering the Altenweg II and did nothing short of a phenomenal job!

(https://i.imgur.com/QmskAqx.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/R7jyGGM.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/9EpVp5g.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/0J8qoQr.png)

All credit for those renderings to For Tyeth (obviously).

This is gorgeous!  Incredibly elegant design, I LOVE the wings!  Scratch that: I love the ENTIRE saber!!

Wow!  WOW!!  WOW!!!  OK, I have always maintained that FT is an amazing artist...but this goes BEYOND that!  This collaboration between you two: PHENOMENAL!!  This is EXACTLY why I love Fan-created work(s) so much!

Gentlemen: my compliments to you both!!

Looking good.  The RazGriz is definitely unlike other designs, a more delicate, artful look.  I could see River Song in a murder ballet with that thing.

Also, nice renderings of AltenWig by FT

FT really did the heavy lifting here - his skills in blender are really somethin. I just penned a doodle  ;D


I can see it. Firefly and Serenity dont get enough love.

Totally agree, very nice realisation of the doodle, a very unique sabre for sure, FT really captured how bright and sleek it is - great job both of you.

Hi Janx, Lord_S_Gray and TheDutchman, thanks for the kind comments on "my work" but I was only responsible for the renders and making Altenweg II a 3D model, the design and credit belong to PsychoSith for his original beautiful vision.

Also I need to say thanks to Lord_S_Gray for hinting at the idea that I make a render.

Got two more for y'all today.

The Chimera, made from Blaster components
(https://i.imgur.com/aJpGTX2.jpg)

And the Astartes, because why should Space Marines be left out of the fun?
(https://i.imgur.com/IHeuUUI.jpg)

I like the Chimera's ergonomic grip and the gritty fins.  Also reminds me of a Zippo lighter.

The Astartes cross-guard aligns with some thinking I've had since you started posting these.

The core problem with Kylo Ren's saber is that in real life, crossguards were meant to catch the saber, but in all cases, if the opponent's saber slid down the blade, it wouldn't do it's job.

The angled bits certainly reduce the risk of self-chopping a wrist. 

Take a ponder at a configuration that enables the prongs to properly catch a blade in the crease.  perhaps a tighter V or X.

I'd like to see what you come up with.

Thought of that myself. There are plenty of examples of perfectly perpendicular crossguards so Kylo's doesn't bother me too much - however I am a fan of the V shaped crossguards as you can see. Been wanting to do more sketches involving crossguards so i'll take your suggestions into account :)

Hi PsychoSith,

Congrats on another nice pair of sabers, and a nice nod to the armed forces around the galaxy!
Crossguards do have limitations because they don't catch and bind a blade like a steel edge but Kylo did adapt using the feature - using the quillion to inflict injury on Finn when close up.
 


And hello janx, I have made a few V and X guards and the problems still persist (well in real life designs because we need to find space in the hilt to place the LED modules whereas in the SW Universe they don't have that problem) However if you'd like to see my takes on the V cross guard and X-Guard (I hope you don't mind PsychoSith) I'll leave a few links to my models.

New Asguard (V cross Guard)
http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=40017.msg711168#msg711168 (http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=40017.msg711168#msg711168)

Throne Room Saber (X-Guard)
http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=40017.msg711168#msg711168 (http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=40017.msg711168#msg711168)

Thanks for sharing and I look forward to your next postings. Point inbound.

Thanks for saying so! Also might do another hilt before th day is out. Really thinking hard on crossguard designs and how one might make them work best on a saber

Hey all! Sorry I didnt get this posted yesterday, but I had gotten busy and also wanted to take my time with this one.

Following our conversations regarding x-guards, I wanted to create a saber that was primarily a practical weapon to wield.
I think I succeeded,

Meet the Crusader
(https://i.imgur.com/PCaL3vj.jpg)

So to review a few of the highlights here, this is a double-handed hilt with vertical grips for better orientation control on the xguard. Xguard has rear-facing shrouds so the user can use rest their hands on the choke comfortably without burning fingers, while also exposing the saber in the front for catching the opponents blade. Forward choke is placed to allow single handed use if needed, also the position of the longer "pressure" switch you've seen on a few of my designs, to ensure ignition control while single handing. Power indicator placed on the power matrix housing. Pommel ring for storing.

The real pride here is the "bladecage". On the xguard shrouds and emitter, you'll see a cage-like structure. This would be a cortosis "blade cage" that is kept out of contact with the important components of the saber, being mounted on the outer housing. For any who might not know, cortosis in Star Wars is a brittle metal alloy that can temporarily short-out lightsabers on contact with the blade. This is used here in the x-guard and emitter to catch then subsequently de-activate your opponents blade, leaving them defenseless for either a riposte, or forced surrender.


Whew! Think I covered everything. Let me know what you guys think / ideas you'd like to see!

Cortosis is a clever idea.  Definitely handy to have at any of the corners/tsuba where a blade might slide down and damage the hilt itself.


I think this design covers the safety and the "real sword fighting" factors I had in mind.  Well done!

Also, it looks great.

Wow PS, I REALLY like this hilt!  The cortosis construction is a nice touch (and like you said: the properties of the ore make for an excellent defensive measure  ;)).  Brilliant: the design is reminiscent of a Scottish claymore  ;D  I love the attention to detail (I can't even draw stick figures  ;)).

With the past examples of cross-guard sabers, I wanted to make a suggestion (since you and For Tyeth have the design/visual skills  ;D): I'd love to see a truly dedicated two-handed heavy saber (think in line with a German Zweihänder).  Something from the New Sith Wars (or similar provenance) where hand-to-hand was commonplace.  

Anyhow: yet another wonderful saber (just my opinion: your best yet) PS!

I do enjoy Zweihanders....

So, a Zweihander?

(https://i.imgur.com/PM6hetg.jpg)

I really liked making this one, the basic theme being an overcharged greatsaber that requires a lot more cooling power than your average hilt, hence the vents and radiators near the pommel. The large power unit allows both the power and size of the saber to be effective against lightsaber resistant materials such as Beskar'gam (hence the name), a fitting weapon for a Jedi defender against Mandalorian Crusaders. This is an inelegant weapon of brute force and size, more likely to be carried on the back than slung at the waist.

Oh, I like this....   :-)

Decided to get crazy and draw someone holding the saber this time.

(https://i.imgur.com/3KKLrkQ.jpg)

Side note, my 6B pencil is much shorter now.

Splendid.  Also, that's a wicked saber

Might draw just the saber in my usual style since I really like how it came out myself

EDIT: I did.

(https://i.imgur.com/hTimky8.jpg)

I'm a bit jealous of your drawing skills. That is awesome.

Thanks for saying so! I've stil got a long way to go, lol

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PS, you definitely delivered!  This is an incredible design! 

...Actually, it gives me an idea for its use in one of my stories...that is, if you don't mind  :)   Let me just put it this way: this is the EXACT kind of saber that the Vhal'Dan Cataphracts would use!

Use away! Happy you found what you were looking for!  ;D

Thanks!

So: are they called "Beskar" sabers?  I was thinking about "Cataphract Beskar Zweihanders" for the character(s) in question  ;)

Oh indeedy deed...    :-)

I was thinking of a slight modification: shorten the actual emitter and make is a single blade, with the cross-guard made of either Cortosis alloy or SongSteel....    :-)

"Beskar Breaker" was the name I came up with - but that was just a catchy title. Its your story so creative license on the name goes to you!


The idea here was to make a Zweihander which traditionally has the extra grip between two sets of xguards, hence the design. If you scroll back a bit your suggestions sounds pretty similar to the "Crusader" design I did a couple weeks ago :)

Yeah, much like that, but with the lower Zweihander cross-guard instead of the saber-blade cross-guard.   :-)  I guess what I've always wanted to see was a cross-guard made from lightsaber-resistant materials (like cortosis) rather than the cross-guard made from side blades.

might keep in mind for a future design. Next few aren't gonna lean so heavy on xguard i think. Good suggestion though, and definitely worth re-visiting!

Yes, AGREED!  I'd say that the guard underneath the sideblades would work perfectly as a reinforced cortosis weave (maybe a beskar/cortosis alloy?)  At any rate: WONDERFUL design!

Thanks PS  ;)

Oh: do you mind if I post the image of that design with the chapter?  I will, of course, give proper credit where credit is due  ;)

Go for it!

Also today's doodle.
(https://i.imgur.com/0sWLRkK.jpg)

You thought I had stopped? HA!

So who likes Lovecraft?

(https://i.imgur.com/W5quLe2.jpg)

Hi PsychoSith,

I have to say "Extremophile" reminds me of an early sci-fi rocket ship (in a good way) and it's quite a coincidence as I posted a saber on my website a week or two back based on "The Six Million Dollar Man" Bionic Transport and Repair Station, and it looks like a multi stage rocket!

I am not a Lovecraft fan myself but a guy who has a website on the same platform as I operate on has quite a few articles about H.P. Lovecraft.

And was the crystal feature on "The Dagon" inspired by the recent "Frankensaber" US built using the blade tip as a chamber? Either way it looks impressive.

point on it's way.

Thanks! The extremophile i was caught between a 1960's and a hazmat aesthetic, so i combined them a bit.

As for the Frankensaber, not specifically, no but that saber was especially impressive will say. It was a really unique way of part combinations and it *has* given me some ideas. I want my sabers to stand out a little more since currently they mostly all follow the pattern of Emitter->Choke->Power Unit->Grip->Pommel.

Thanks for the kind words!

Heres a question for y'all cause i have a few ideas floating around, what do you want to see next?

A) HEAVY METAL

B) Saberstaff/Double-bladed

C) Unique Saber config (tonfas, whips, shoto etc)

D) Sith it up.

E) "Remasters" (I touch up a lot of my sketches way after the fact so some of my previous doodles have been added upon/finished

ALL please  ;)

Don't be. Practice.

Agreed. Take time, and do them all.

All right, fair enough, ill go down the list. Ill probably include 1 "remaster" per original design post.

Project Heavy Metal begins today.

Alrighty, Heavy Metal is completed.

Result is the Durasteel Dove, a saber that would be at home in any urban jungle such as Coruscant. Easily disguised as a tool or broken machinery, the Dove features sharp edges and a four-pronged xguard with claws to deter close-range combatants and more easily scared street thugs. Designed for durability above all else, the original owner of the saber is long-forgotten; a tough heirloom passed from jedi, sith, and criminals alike, the Dove is a strong blade for the resilient.

(https://i.imgur.com/27qDrbb.jpg)

As for the re-master, I went back and shaded and detailed the first saber I did in my current style, the Scrap Queen. A good pair with the Dove, I wanted to place more emphasis on the questionable construction of such a weapon, highlighting battle and neglect scars alike, the Scrap Queen works, its blade always reliable-just don't ask how. The wielder sure doesn't know.

(https://i.imgur.com/uVfxMBm.jpg)

Nice I love the ferocious design and the story that goes with it, the idea of a sabre passing owner to owner - i wonder what each had 'left behind' in it over time.

Now that is proper Sithy. Would love to see an isometric view of this hilt.

Dont have my sketchbook on me quite this second, but ill be happy to oblige when i do  ;)

Okay have a lot for you guys today!

Firstly lets get the main show on the road, Tiding of the Owl

(https://i.imgur.com/bwBbvSo.jpg)

So the most recent thing on the list was a pike/staff. Usually these are portrayed as savage (Maul/Kun) or Noble (the Shans) but are unusually restricted to those themes. I wanted to approach it with more of an "evil" vibe. Not so much savage or even just dark side, but the idea of the saber itself having this air of death attached to it, this blood-lust of the wielder, this malevolent intent; intentions be damned. Not to simply cause pain, but to end. I loved the theme and ran with it, so this ended up being a more complete drawing than just a saber doodle. But I couldn't remove this image of the Owl's last owner clutching to it even in death, maybe an unwillingness to let it go, maybe an unwillingness to let it affect others, ill let you decide  ;)

Next is the "remaster" of Riot/Bulwark. Nothing special here, just wanted to increase the quality of the original doodles, as they were kinda quickly done.
(https://i.imgur.com/nM1edqR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IH4SLBz.jpg)

And lastly, to satisfy Logos' curiosity, a quick isometric doodle of Durasteel Dove
(https://i.imgur.com/h4q6BCU.jpg)
Not terribly happy with it, but it was a sub-5 minute doodle so i guess i have a minor excuse.

That's alright. I'm an engineer, so I can envision the original in the isometric with the details given. I would totally take one of these.



Oh For Tyeth....I have your next project  ;D

I wouldn't wanna pour event more projects on the guy, if he wants to i wont object, but im certainly not asking  :D

Hi Guys, I just saw this as I was busy typing up a new article for my other online platform (I have been fortunate and nominated for another blogging award) I just finished my "Master Series" collection of hilts (Rey Ep.9/Anakin Ep.2/Darth Vader MPP/Luke RotJ/Graflex ANH) and was about to start looking at building a DragonBall Z/Super Saiyan hilt....however if you'd like me to take a look at the "Dove" I can.

Hey all, sorry its been a minute posting.

Im brainstorming ideas for what unique saber configuration I want to go for my next design but until then, For Tyeth has been very busy.

And I am blown away.

(https://i.imgur.com/VVT1Hni.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/fSnfxFu.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/CJOfNDR.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/f5BtDl1.png)

I especially like this one, since it uses the same perspective as the original drawing, so its really cool to see it "come alive"
(https://i.imgur.com/0uzTEuY.png)

The Durasteel Dove in the glory of all three dimensions! Thank you FT!

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/6upv9yjUc1BAY/giphy.gif)


This need to be a thing.......NAU!

Totally agree, Logos.   This is one cross-guard saber I would love to have on my shelf!   Sweet!

Wow.

WOW!

WOW!!

These renderings are FANTASTIC!!  I LOVE the collaboration between PsycoSith and For Tyeth!!

_{Now to try to convince FT to do a 3D rendering of the "Beskar Breaker"...} ;D

Hello TheDutchman, Darth Logos and Karmack...

I am so glad you all liked "The Durasteel Dove" it truly is a fantastic design PsychoSith came up with (including the backstory). I have a few projects I need to polish up but I have already taken a look at modelling the "Beskar Breaker" so in a bout a week or so I should have something for you all ok.

points on the way.

I think were all eager to see the results! However, I also have a trick up my sleeve, as FT has been amazing at modelling my sabers, I figured I'd return the favor. ;) that should be coming soon, hope everyone enjoys!

Alright, got another collab for you guys today!

Dutchman, I believe you'll particularly like this one.

(https://i.imgur.com/7s8RNod.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/WDlA3Ul.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/1CvNvBC.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/y7vRccY.png)

Obviously For Tyeth's rendering are top-notch as per usual, but this saber represent something even cooler in my opinion. A three-way collaboration between TheDutchman (who requested a Zweihander design for his story), myself (who drew the design out), and For Tyeth (who brought it to life).

I gotta say guys this is just cool watching a design come to life like this  ;D

I'm confused on the name of this one. I was under the impression that beskar could not be phased by a light saber.

Normally yes, the idea here a saber named a little bit dramatically, a little bit out of hubris. It was specifically for Dutchman's story involving knights wielding massive overcharged greatsabers. The amount of sheer power going through the blade would theoretically be capable of damaging Beskar, but the weight of the hilt and the power of user themself provides the "breaking"

To be honest its mostly the dramatic flair. I know in old canon Beskar could tank starship crashes, but are you really gonna want to mess with a 7 foot tall guy holding a hilt the size of a child calling it the Beskar Breaker?

Hi there,

And I just copied the name from PsychoSith's sketch...I thought the strikeout through the word breaker was an intended part of the name   :-\

And I'm glad it meets approval again, it was fun to build.

It was intended, no worries. Was trying to "break" the word, lol

It's a curious idea. Although I know of beskar's energy resistant properties, I've never actually a) seen whether it absorbs or repels saber energy and b) seen how it holds up against physical abuse. I could see an oversized hilt with extra juice to the emitter field acting as a more of a physical object against a material that makes the typical blade useless. If the stronger emitter field was capable of being maintained while striking beskar, then I could see the metal physically wearing down and ultimately failing. 

That was the general idea, but i know the old lore was occasionally inconsistent with Beskar strength so i was leaving room for maybes

One day, ALL will be fixed.

your work continues to amaze.  The beskar breaker looks like an excellent melding of classic swords with light sabers

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OK this is INCREDIBLE!  I have to say that the collaboration between PS and FT is just AWESOME!  I really, REALLY wish that US could make this saber hilt (with proper credit/reward to PS and FT, of course  ;D).

Gentlemen...it's sabers like the "Beskar Breaker" that made me a saber enthusiast in the first place  ;)

I WISH that I had the creativity of PS and FT!  Points for both of you gentlemen  :)

Hi TheDutchman and thanks, but to be fair I was the final link in this project and worked off the inspiration you and PsychoSith provided. I couldn't have modelled/rendered anything if you hadn't come up with it in your fanfic or had PS not sketched it. (I hope you don't mind the little bits of artistic license I had to add - I only had a plan view to work off so had to fill in some details when looking at the hilt from different angles!)

Oooh ooh ooh. Can you modify BB to eliminate the crossguards and take the main emitter section from above the black stripe down to the base of the chamfer?

Hi Logos,
The emitter might need a bit of work (as the crossguard is one solid section) but do you mean something like this?
(https://ftsabersite.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/beskar-breaker-short-studio-mk.png)

I haven't posted a full render but I'll produce one if PS and Dutch don't mind.

Getting very close. I meant for you to make a single blade, but wasn't braining yesterday afternoon......or this morning for that matter.

Leave the length the same from the choke to the emitter. It's growing on me.

I would totally order this if available. Love the grip.

Hey guys! Sorry for being so quiet, but my work is in the midst of a property move so ive been pretty busy this week - should be back to regular posting by tues/wed!

Thank you all for the kind words, and thank you FT for the amazing work!

I'm with Logos.   Leave everything except remove the cross-guards - saber blade and physical - and make the emitter into a long version of the split emitter, with two long slits extending back almost to the choke.

HEY! It's my mod. I'd actually prefer the quad-split, but only extended by 1".

LOL   he credit is all yours, Logos!   

So ... a Catalyst on steroids!   Yeah....

Ok, I think I got it...similar to the Catalyst right?....Something like this?....

(https://ftsabersite.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/beskar-logos-edition-2-mk.png)

(https://ftsabersite.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/beskar-logos-edition-mk.png)

And one for the serious Sith out there...
(https://ftsabersite.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/beskar-logos-edition-dark-1-mk.png)

I gonna have a rest now...I still have my Anakin AOTC hilt coming up very soon.

Yeah, pretty much.

And it is sooooooooooooooooo much the pretty. :o :o :o :o :o :o

Now contact Emory, and get this thing going. I want one in my hands by Christmas.

Ooo!
OOO!!
OOO!!!

I LOVE this hilt!  "Beskar Breaker Shoto!!"

FT, can I use that in an upcoming chapter?

Hi Dutch, I have no objections...it is kinda your saber, PsychoSith and I modified your original design concept to produce this. Gotta thank Logos and Karmack for the suggestions.

Thanks guys and points inbound.

some cool drawings;  Looks like you might have utilized a nice charcoal pencil..  I have a twin set.

charcoal comes in raw sticks also and of many different consistencies, so some of them are not as easily marking as say colored pencils or pastels..

Good observation! I use charcoal for some shading stuff but i usually do 2B graphite for the base drawing. - More coming soon!

Continuing my list of saber that i wanted to do, next was a unique saber configuration. Came up with a few concept doodles, what do you all think?

(https://i.imgur.com/7ZXwo3J.jpg)

Hi Psycho,

Once again another sweet collection of hilts! You do like that knurled handgrip don't you?  :D

And it seems to me that "slotted" emitter shrouds are in vogue at the moment, it looks like Darkside Rey's new staff has them as well.
I like the "Great Flip" (the folded emitter looks a little like a Chiss Tie Fighter or Droid Tri-Fighter viewed from the top).

I shall give you a point if I can (but as I just gave you one on my thread it might arrive tomorrow)

I just always try to sketch mine out to be comfortable to hold, and that style of grip always looks like it would be easy on the hand. I admit Fallen Order re-ignited my love for slotted emitters, cant wait for that game! The Tident great-flip was a weird idea i had. No clue at all if it would be anything approaching useful - but it at least it looks cool! Still trying to figure out which on i really want to expand into an "official" doodle.

And dont worry, the other project is making good headway  ;)

Hello there, the knurled grips are nice as they give grip in all directions from my experience.
And again no need to rush your other project - I'm sure it will be worth the wait. Talking of waits I can now give you another force point from yesterday!

EDIT: OK maybe I need to wait another hour or two. ::)

Some exotic designs PS!

I have to admit that the light-halberd gives me some ideas concerning the Sith...

Wonderful drawings; I can't wait for more!

Point  :)

Digging the Great Flip

I did not realize that I had gotten so far behind on this thread. Some beautiful work since my last post, and the 3D renderings by For are incredible. I've gotta say though, I love how you post a hilt and Dutchman's like "Ooh ooh, can I use this in an upcoming chapter" and Logos is like "I need this NOWWW!!". :D This is definitely one of my favorite sections of the Forum.

Im happy you like this little corner so much  ;D

And dont worry, got a couple interesting projects coming down the pipeline  ;)

Beefy Boi

(https://i.imgur.com/GxiYQw0.jpg)



Do I hear the horn of Heimdallr...?

And another one!_{ive been playing too much Iceborne...}


(https://i.imgur.com/CwlsW1L.jpg)


indeed, the cry of gjallorhorn grows ever louder!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190916/5edea60fb6d044593dad8f7027df9254.jpg)

Not a saber hope y’all will forgive me

I really like this design PS, looks VERY aggressive  :)

This one actually reminds me of one of the organic Shardblades from the Stormlight Archives^^

I LOVE your use of negative space for this rendition of Revan's Mask.

Makes me wish that I could draw (I even butcher stick figures so...yeah)  ;)

Thanks for the kind words as always ^_^

Think i might turn the Revan one into a series where I draw darkside users in the same style. Will have to see. One big project at a time.

Agreed. I actually really love that that style.


Also, how did I not know that you read Sanderson? (Actually haven't gotten to Stormlight yet. They are sitting on my shelf waiting for me to finish Harry Potter since I've never read them).

Very nice! I used to draw for more than half of my life, but I've let it slip for quite a while (playing music). I feel like getting some art supplies right now thanks to you. -1
I love the Trident! So good!
As far as it not being a saber, IMHO this thread should be for any hand drawn art. Forgive me if I'm stepping on toes, but I just found this thread the other day and it made me want to draw. Sabers should be the focus perhaps, but a drawing like the one you did of Revan shouldn't have to come with a request for forgiveness. Sorry if I sound super serious. I'm not. I just think sometimes my fellow forum family members are TOO nice (oh noes!). I doubt anyone is upset that you drew an awesome Revan instead of a saber. I hope to add to this thread soonn, and it wont just be sabers... unless anyone has a problem with that? 

Not at all! I’d love to see what you come up with!

Alright im gonna need all you dark siders tips on this one.

Next on my list was a "Sith" design but i forgot my drawing kit at home today so i was doodling out some rough sketches.

My brain, apparently, has issues with Sith themes because i could not doodle a design that I myself was pleased with. I circled the three that i thought were getting there, but couldnt find myself fully content with any of these - you guys got any tips / suggestions?  :-\

(https://i.imgur.com/xGMQP7n.jpg)

I'm liking the Tyrants Word the most but I like the claws of the The Sith Path. I wish I had anything at all to draw with right now because I have an idea for the claws but I can't quite explain it. I'm thinking 8 claws. 4 higher than the rest, offset like saw teeth. Or if the claws on the Tyrants Word could have every claw that is only on the ring, lower than the rest by way of making the ring dip like a V in between each... I guess support claw? I hope some of that made sense. :)

Appreciate the feedback. Ill tinker with the two and see if i cant make myself happy enough to post the result

So writing this all out again cause my browser crashed right before hitting the post button  ::)

I'm pretty proud of this one, I hope you guys don't mind, I've attached a little writing experiment to this one.

(https://i.imgur.com/di7hZ4C.jpg)

The Acolyte looked down at the saber gripped in his hand; the device given so much love in its' construction and meaning.

y..you worthless wretch

The pommel stolen from the scepter of a master most cruel; the birth of a passion.

you think this is a victory? you th...

The grip three bones, cast in stone and wrapped in leather; the strength of the body.

...you think yourself powerful?

The power unit wrapped in chains; a Sith seeking only power is still bound by their weakness.

n-no. Heh. You'll never escape this place. You....

The chassis marked by tallies of the wielder's fallen enemies; each notch, a victory.

...you'll never escape me. You-you'll never be free of me.

The emitter adorned by a jeweled crown; the blade freely burning forth.

The Acolyte looked down at his bloodied master, whose blade now dripped with bloody irony. The Acolyte spoke.

"The Force shall free me."

Hi PsychoSith,

Another great design andI reckon this one would be a challenge to build. Bones used as the handgrip? But I do like that "crown" emitter.

Technically fossils at that. Not asking for a render on this one, it was a pain enough to draw  ;)

I will still have a look at modeling this one...I like a challenge. Luckily I used a technique that created "bone-like" textures so it may be possible to build.

Anyway I'm still enjoying all the art as is a friend of mine I know through my blog. She is an artist and left nice comments about Altenweg II asking me to pass on her compliments. You have more fans than you think.

Well doesnt that make me warm and fuzzy appreciated!  ;D

Good luck on the model and i'm pleased to announce youll have something in your inbox this week  ;)

Hey PsychoSith!   I love this latest creation!   It looks worthy of Sauron himself!

(I know, I know, he's not Sith ... but what a Sith Lord he would have made!)

I mean in all fairness he's very Vader-esque

True enough!

Though on retrospect this looks a LOT like the crown/armor of the NazGul that attacks King Theoden outside of Minas Tirith...and is then killed by Aowen's vorpal blade....

May not be Sith, but he is a Dark Lord.

(http://i.imgur.com/acq0Co8l.jpg)

Touche

Wow.

WOW!

WOW!!

These are phenomenal designs PS!  I especially like the 8th drawing; VERY nice marriage between "form" and "function"  :)


YES!  This looks FANTASTIC!

Question: is there a canon saber for Darth Bane?  If not, I vote for this one!

Hmmm...which makes me think...PS, I love your history for this saber...I'll PM you about an idea I've got  ;)


There is just so much AWESOMENESS in this picture, I'm surprised that the Forums could contain it  :D

I'm glad you like them, those were actually my rejects for the final design. I decided to incorporate bits for "The Sith Path" "The Tyrant's Word" and "Still kinda stupid"(i liked the grip but the emitter was way too much)


Inbox stand at the ready  ;D


Just wanted to say y'all are too nice. Thanks for the good words! Points all 'round  ;)

There was. It was curved.

Thanks

Gettin' spoopy

(https://i.imgur.com/iOVTFTi.jpg)

 :o I love it! Point!


YES!!! I can't wait.

Hey all, just keeping everyone in the loop; havent been as prolific as lately, between Inktober and some unrelated art ive been doing I've had a busy pen. I'll be back at it soon though once i come up with a new saber project list  ;)

Hello PsychoSith,

No worries from me, and I have just sent you a PM about something you may like to see. Looking forward to whatever you post whenever you can!

How's Inktober going for you? I'm about 3 days behind.

2 days myself

Hey all, came across one of my old sketchbooks, and behold there were doodles inside!

Specifically these are of my old, old OC Darth Teroril and her saber.

(https://i.imgur.com/1C6LyAv.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/mSozNOi.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/R3iSSWV.jpg)

Might re-do some of these, not sure.

Hi Psycho,

Wow some lost early works of PsychoPencils! These are neat and I like the second picture with two hilts. Is the smaller of the two intended as a Shoto off hand saber?

(Not sure if I can give you another point today as I gave one to you on my thread but there's another point on the way later ok!)

It was originally intended to be her master's saber, though i might re-purpose it into something all together new. This character has changed a LOT since these drawings and a lot of the details don't necessarily apply anymore.

Yet another awesome pic, PS!  I have to say that I wish that I had your (and/or FT's) creative talents  :)

But you do! Your writing is fantastic and requires just as much artistic creativity as drawing / modelling

Gave Teroril's saber a once-over. Think it came out good.

(https://i.imgur.com/uXh6j0R.jpg)

That pommel looks rather emitter-ish. You got somethin' planned, boy?

Excess energy vent/valve! Good catch!

Was trying to visually explain whatever the Force i was trying to depict here

UGH! You do realize that venting energy will only drain your power cell abnormally fast? Sounds like you need a better power reg.

It's not all the time. It was mostly because in the original version of Teroril she had a habit for supercharging her saber with lightning. Obviously the internals cant necessarily handle that all at once so emergency vent. Wanted to make it look like the pommel got blown off the first time so it was modified to be able to handle the energy without critical failure going forward.

Then what does a standard saber do when deflecting lightning? ô¿o

(https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-e65132ab43fcb8776ab6b5cdf256aebd.webp)



(And is it just me, or does this pic make it look like he's holding an Ultraedge blade? ::))

Nah she zaps her hilt where shes holding it (over the power unit) not the blade. Juice goes straight to the internals.

Just making sure you're paying attention to the details. ;)

Always!

/blush

Thank you my friend; I appreciate that  :)

But I still wish that I had your skill and drawing and/or FT's facility with 3D rendering  ;)

Regardless: you guys are AWESOME!  Speaking of...

"Good?"  No.

"Great?"  MOST DEFINITELY  :D

I love this hilt!

Thanks for sayin so! Was probably gonna get crackin on that second hilt in the pic and maybe re-do Ril's mask

Hi Psycho, sorry late seeing this beauty...I've been busy fixing up a Flex  ::)
Is that another "trigger" style activation switch on the upper handgrip?

Point for the another awesome artwork.

I have a weak spot for those ignition switches. It just makes ergonomic sense to me  ::)

You're right, I remember seeing a switch like this on one of those flashlights you powered by squeezing the trigger repeatedly...I'm surprised no-one thought of using one on a saber till you did!

Just a quick one with pen

(https://i.imgur.com/uIfmIQp.jpg)

Good stuff as always, PS. That emitter shroud is awesome!

Looks like your saber got a little melty.

Was going for bloody but i was short on time  :P

Allright! I have my next few projects. I continued to dig through my older sketchboks and i found even more cringey teenage PsychoSith works i can re-do!

(https://i.imgur.com/XXL9aVi.jpg)

One of my first all-pen doodles!......It shows.

(https://i.imgur.com/k9Z5dzO.jpg)

SWTOR Dark Jedi Nimrai. His bio exists somewhere on the older threads, which I'm not going to check because the cringe might kill me.

(https://i.imgur.com/F0zVyO3.jpg)

These I'm actually excited for! These were my first sabers that I designed and posted here on a thread from 2013. Sadly the image is no-longer viewable cause my Photobucket account is SUPER dead.

Should give me a few saber doodle projects!

EDIT: Okay these will come AFTER my newest project! Logos gave me an idea!

Please PS, I think that we ALL have SOMETHING in our past (especially as teenagers) that we'd consider "cringeworthy" (goodness knows that I do)  ;D

That said: I wouldn't mind reading the bio(s), I have to admit that I really like reading/writing character bios&stats (probably a reason that I used to love AD&D so much  ;)).

Those color hilts look fantastic!!  Hopefully you can find more^^

I will happily re-write it to my more modern standards

Wow! PsychoPencils and Coloured Crayons! Loving the coloured hilts, the first one looks like a tribute to Artoo and Threepio with the gold at one end and blue and white the other. Of course I'm drawn to the green blade too (< see what I did there?)

Great to see more early works, thanks for sharing.

As mentioned earlier, I have a small project I've been working on before i get to remaking the old stuff. Specifically, Logos and I had a small discussion on the Ultrasabers idea thread regarding the feasibility of lightsabers designed around Rapiers.

Well during my research it turns out the EU had already touched on this. Theyre called "lightfoils" and were a Sith / Noble light-sword based on lightsabers, but not exactly. Opting for an energy blade that doesnt appear to be powered by a crystal (due to the name being specifically distinguished away from "lightsaber"). They seemed to be parimarily used to settle personal duels, similar to the IRL Rapier/Foil they are based on.

Of course my brain immediately went to making it a full fledged lightsaber, and maybe even touching upon a flat blade design since TCW/Rebels opened up that can o worms with the Darksaber.

(https://i.imgur.com/bCx40fR.jpg)

So which design do you guys feel is the most practical / would work best with a flat blade? Obviously it would be centered around Makashi form.

Just a quick correction, there ARE crystals within lightfoils, but they are manufactured and of less quality than those in lightsabers. In fact, lightfoils are often used by Tampani Nobles and do not require any force connection to construct.

Interesting.

(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HauntingLateAfricanbushviper-size_restricted.gif)


Ok. I like the one on the top right. Just a simple (and elegant I might add) hand guard, but the length of the hilt and pommel would allow for 2-handed use. I can get behind a design like this.

What i was thinking as well - i might free up the right side finger guard into a small xguard cause looking at it critically having your fingers misaligned would not be terribly comfortable and might lead to the user "pulling" the blade to the right a little.

I wouldn't have put fingers through either of those loops.

keep in mind it does have a basket guard so theres plenty of room. Many rapiers have loops or ergonomic crossguards to allow this for greater blade control and tip precision

I like it. Forum veteran and master saber manipulator Darth Cephalus has a couple saber rapiers that I've seen him spin. They are pretty sick.

I will throw my hat into the ring for the one on the top right as well.   To me, the rapier is all about speed, and that hilt looks fast to me.  :-)

OK, I LOVE the saber on the right!  It has echos of the Guardian (Obi-Wan Ep1-2 saber) in it, but with far more style!   I could see a high-born Jedi or maybe better, a force-user not of the Jedi Order but serving as the head of some potentate's personal guard, carrying that hilt.

Nice.  :-)

I would have thought that the elaborate hand guards were a practical way of increasing the mass of the handle. The closer you get the center of mass of the sword in the actual grip, the more control you have.

When I look at this sketch, I see the guard as being narrowly conical; with a base of maybe 5" diameter, anf a strip roughly 2" wide for the finger guard.

Nobles got small hands, yo,
/joke

Widening some of that area up for ergonomic reasons on the final drawing. Still trying to get the "speedy" feeling though

While I like your drawings of the lightfoils (as always, plus they look incredibly graceful), I think I prefer the "heavier" sabers instead (although I think that the provenance behind "nobles wielding lightfoils" fits perfectly for the narrative).  That said, I'd love to see what you come up with for your own Darksaber analogue  :)

Much as the flat blade designs still irks me from a lore perspective, I can't hate on the design itself, yet another project to add to the list! Meanwhile;

(https://i.imgur.com/st41q4v.jpg)

Aaaand todays second project:

(https://i.imgur.com/F0zVyO3.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/fDy9T7z.jpg)

POINTS! ALL THE POINTS!

The flat blade idea irks me to hell and back. The idea of a lightsaber is literally a 360° cutting edge. What purpose does making it flat serve? I fear I'm going to get backlash for saying this, but I've never had an issue with the notion of a black blade. I've even worked out how it could theoretically be achieved within the fictional science of SW.

As far as the hilt of the Dark Saber, I still don't like it. The corners of the rectangular grip would destroy your hands on impact. Now if they had done it more like Ahsoka's SWR sabers, then yes. Much more ergonomic design.

100% agreement.   But that foil design...   It is SPOT ON.
Killer, PS.   Killer hilt.   :-)

Thanks Karmack! I was a little nervous as the popular vote between the three rapiers was probably my least favorite so I was real careful to make sure it lived up to expectations!


And y'know I'm a guy who is willing to waive some small amount of function for form, so im caught between those awkward two voices in my head of "A flat blade makes no sense!" and "Yeah but its really cool!". Ultimately its a little silly, but it would be interesting to see the visual applications beyond "glowy sword"

I am reminded of the weapons the Imperial Guard used in "The Last Jedi" against Rey and Kylo.   I'm not sure what they were actually supposed to be, but what if it was something like that?   A very light, thin frame holding some kind of energy blade?  It could be two-edged, or even very light and x-shaped with FOUR edges for cutting, allowing functional 360-degree usage but not a true plasma-blade like the ones "real" light sabers use.  It would also negate the need for the force-user connection to the weapon that is infused into canon.

Just a thought....

Recently re-watched. The appear to be normal vibroweapons with some kind of plasma torch or energy vent on the leading edge of the blade, allowing it to clash with sabers. Thats all based on appearances though so if someone has more elaborate canon content feel free to correct me.

I have reached a reasonable compromise on the physics of a flat blade, and especially for the lower power output of a foil, it makes sense.

The emitted containment field could be flat if the emitter matrix were a narrow rectangular configuration. By the nature of the blade, it would still be able to cut at any angle, but its appearance would be flat. But here's the kicker: the blade would have to be symmetric along the long axis, like a rapier blade.

I could have gotten behind the Dark Saber if a) it followed this guideline, b) didn't extend beyond the emitter width, and c) wasn't SHAPED. More akin to a gladius

(https://www.medievalcollectibles.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/WR-RSSPK.png)

BOOOO! Those suck.

BOOOOO! Canon content sucks.

I can get behind that. Especially if getting struck by the flat of the blade wouldn't fully cut due to it being less power over a wider area but still caused a nasty burn

WRONG! It is still a light blade. If it has the power to cut, then it has the ability to cut all the way around. Now I do know the initiate sabers used by younglings to train were underpowered so that any sustained strikes would burn and not dismember.

What I'm saying is if the energy is dispersed over a wider area like a flat blade (especially if we're talking lightfoils) a small strike would likely burn. Not saying that it couldnt dismember, it would just require more "force" heh.

OK, not only do I like this design but the name for it--"Makashi Master"--just...brilliant, simply brilliant  :D

Allow me to reiterate: these are beautiful!  Something about them elicits me of my own childhood ideas of Jedi sabers whenever my friends and I would play "Us-the Star Wars People" (how's that for cringe-worthy  ;D).  Anyhow--and like any smart kid  ;)--I WANTED to have a lightsaber, often times stealing my dad's flashlight while attaching a colored PVC pipe to it, happily smacking anything that came within proximity (...and getting me into trouble, naturally  ;)).  LONG STORY SHORT: these awesome pics remind me of that time  ;D

As an avid sword collector, I really like the gladius you included.  However, I really enjoyed your explanation for the flatblade saber.

Points gentlemen  :)

That would make for interesting handling characteristics, as the edge becomes important for its ease in cutting and you could purposefully strike with the flat to avoid a killing blow if you desired.  Not unlike a real sword blade.   Though any strike from a plasma blade would leave at the very minimum a nasty burn.   

But yeah, I could see that happening.   It would have to be a really light, pulled strike though.  As Logos pointed out, any forceful strike would penetrate even with the flat, barring something exotic like cortosis weave armor or song steel plate or some other lightsaber-resistant material... 

Oh to be sure it would cause damage, but instead of an arm flying off im more imagining a chunk of seared flesh.

The problem with that notion is that the power of the beam is coming from the crystal, not the emitted field. The field may have diminished power along the broad face from being oddly shaped, but the cutting energy is is released when the field is interrupted. So no matter which direction you swing from, the blade will cut.

BUT, if anything, the emitted field should be weakest at the "edge". I envisioned the emitter to resemble an orifice roughly shaped like a cat's pupil.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/19/17/2f/19172f1c783648166f6bea2dd15f5bdb.jpg)

Considering that the overall blade is lower power than a Jedi saber, I suppose it could be possible to achieve the desired effect. And since the tip would effectively be the absolute weakest point (no pun intended) in the field, the weapon would be most effective when stabbing.


There, now you have convincing fictional science to explain how your laser sword works. ;) ;D (WIN)

Mechanics aside, this is what I came up with.

(https://i.imgur.com/O65cW18.jpg)

Def inspired by Ashoka's sabers but as I drew it out, the hilt was taking a Katana-like curve so i rolled with it and ended up with a more Eastern theme.

LOGOS WINS!    :-)

Makes sense.   You could even say that the fact that the emitted field does NOT rupture, causing the plasma cut, could be what results in a bad burn and relatively minor damage compared to an edge impact or tip impact....

Nicely done!   POINT!

Not a bad explanation. I like. Point awarded!


Thanks for the compliments! And yeah when it comes to names I have an amusing affinity for artistic alliteration  ;)

Although, now that I think about it, emitter fields do not give off heat. This was an old explanation somewhere. So therefore, a side strike might physically push, but wouldn't burn. :-\

Re-did cringey 'ol Nimrai.

I gotta say its this kind of re-do that makes me happy I've actually improved.
(https://i.imgur.com/k9Z5dzO.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/MCUqDV3.jpg)


He used to be kind of an OP power trip character that had nothing cool about him, though after thinking on it, i liked the idea of a Dark Jedi using illusion abilities. Specifically, Nimrai only wields a single shoto saber as a weapon  ;)

So I've been in a Chinese Military History fix lately and I've been thinking.

Where I'm aware an advantage of lightsabers is their ability to cut from any direction, it would interest me tosee what people would think of a single-edged sabre? Specifically, lets say the single edge could be more potently charged than a full blade, giving it greater cutting power against lightsaber-resistant materials such as Beskar? I know y'all love greatswords, and I was thinking if I married all these ideas and made a lightsaber based on the Chinese Zhanmadao, it could be really interesting. For clarification, the Zhanmadao is a single-edged, long-hilted, two-hander anti calvary sword.

Keeping up with the flat blade ideas, and expanding on the Zhanmadao idea, I present the Lidao


(https://i.imgur.com/25FNign.jpg)

For this one, it was as much about the reason behind the saber as the saber itself. Okay why would a lightsaber (one that already an odd design with a flat blade) be single-edged? I could just hear Logos in the distance shouting WHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYY. So i thought given that a lightsaber blade is effectivley and energy circuit what if there was both an emitter and a receiver with the distance in between being covered in "energy repeaters" to keep a confined energy circuit with much higher power than a traditional blade? The result was my so-dubbed "Dual-Channel Emitter Thread". When powered off, the tang of the blade still maintains a physical edge, and the Emitter thread is sharp to a point, making a semi-efficient thrusting weapon even when facing off against opponents that might not warrant a lightsaber.

All well and fine, but who would use this frankenweapon? I imagined a Jedi Temple, forgotten by all but its' inhabitants who through Schisms and Wars remained unaffected through its' remoteness. The Guards and Masters there having generations to hone, adapt, and perfect both their understanding of the Force itself, as well as martial skills. Though few in number, anyone to challenge the Temple's masters would be brazen at best.

PS, this would be a great weapon for Cantors to carry - a lost sect of blade-masters who were once charged with guarding the Mak-Tor sacred sites on and under the Spire.   The Dual-Channel emitter thread could be a pre-Jedi form of lightsaber tech that the Mak'tor refined without input from the Jedi, and which was mostly forsaken when the Mak'Tor were incorporated into the Jedi Order after the re-establishment of the Jedi Temple on Coruscant.  But perhaps there is a small sect somewhere (M'Tzigon, maybe?  Or perhaps elsewhere?) where the technology and techniques of enhanced battle song are still taught and incorporated with their massive and impressive weapons....

If you're so minded, of course.   I wouldn't appropriate your design without permission of course!   :-)

It might surprise you to know that if you can explain it well enough, I usually accept the concept, even if the implementation seems a little stretched.

Last night I actually conceived of a reasoning behind the "thin blade" concept. I surmised that if a saber hilt has controls to adjust blade length, why not also have controls for blade width. I started to consider that a reduced blade thickness actually had greater energy concentration and therefore have a greater ability to cut, even through some materials that have innate resistance properties such as cortosis. But this strength would also come at a cost, primarily reduced ability to deflect, and require greater strength/ mental clarity on the part of the wielder.

This being said, I actually don't see an issue with the way you've designed this. It looks you've given it a drastically extended emitter shroud, which I assume is critical to how it forms the single edge, and possibly even a flat blade. I'm envisioning something akin to the melee beam weapons used in Gundam Wing. I'm not exactly sure what you mean by a "Dual-Channel Emitter Thread".

I just knew this one was a liiittle bit of a stretch. The name is mostly fluff that sounded good. Had a moment to sit down and give thought to the component name and I came up with "Linear Emitter Array".

Also...heh...I...uh....I've never watched gundam.


I post my designs public for a reason! I'd be honored to have it included!  ;D

That works even better. So am I correct in how I interpreted the function of your design?


Hey, it's your loss. Giant robotic war machines with weapons that make the Death Star look like a bb gun. What's not to love?

Would there be any incentive if I told you the primary beam weaponry are sabers?

Pretty close yeah, I imagined since the Zhangmadao is used as an anti-Calvary sword, I could imagine the Lidao being used against speeder bikes and light tanks without giving ground effectively. A very offensive weapon.

My problem is for whatever weird reason I could never quite get behind mechs as a concept.

Oy.   Mechs are cool.   My two favorite fictional universes are Star Wars and Battletech.   LOL   Star Trek comes in a very close 3rd...

Done!   :-)   It might be a bit before the concept comes to life in the fiction, but it will be there.   :-)

Well good news: the original Gundam series gave birth to the "real robot" mech genre. Hero mechs could run out of ammo, be over whelmed by enemy forces, and even occasionally suffer catastrophic ass whoopin's. There are numerous spin offs, but most try to exist within the real robot bounds. My personal favorites are (in order) 8^th MS Team, 0080, and 0083.

Well duh ST comes in 3rd; no mechs.

THIS is what I enjoy so much about these Forums: we can REALLY get a taste of the incredible creativity of our members!  Seriously PS, this is a fantastic character build!  Hmmm..._{something, something ideas...}

I actually really like this concept; furthermore, the in-universe explanation concerning the "single edge" is one that is both sound and valid, especially as it pertains to SW physics.  As for possible wielders...

I LIKE THIS!!!

WONDERFUL idea Karm!  Heh, looks like the Cantors had one helluva responsibility...

...Responsibilities (plural); I know that I've been remiss in posting chapters for "Storms of Exodus" but I promise that I'll rectify that shortly (as well as a reason for the "why" there are no Cantors in the current Forumverse timeline).

And like Karm said: these designs REALLY spark the imagination and creativity!  Case in point: the Beskar Breaker.  What a PERFECT weapon for the Vhal'Dan Cataphracts.  And...one more of PS's sabers will be coming up...soon!  I promise  ;D

And mechs are BAD@$$  ;)   Robotech got me hooked on mecha  8)

I have been an absolute mechaphile since ESB.

Dutchman, on the Cantors:   They would have been pretty impressive, these hybrid sabers would make a stand-out weapon for them.   Many thanks to PsychoSith for the image and permission to use.   :-)

I'll hit you up soon with the idea of mine soon for a possible re-emergence.  I want to make sure it meshes with your tracking.   :-)

I can't wait to hear about it Karm!

And likewise  ;)

And I COMPLETELY agree: PS's saber renderings are inspiring (literally as well as figuratively  ;))!

Y'all are too nice. Have two drawings coming up. One is a Star Wars OC cause I was bored. The other is a bit of fanart for Fallen Order.

As you've probably seen in other threads, I've been playing the Jedi: Fallen Order game a lot recently, and something the game does is it actually manages to make the inquisitors really cool/interesting characters! As such, I've thrown my pen into the ring so to speak.

(https://i.imgur.com/wnm8hb2.jpg)

The Inquisitors thus seen are all fallen Jedi with a nasty set of personal issues. So i thought it would be interesting to envsision not a fallen Jedi - but an Imperial Officer as an Inquisitor. Allistar Thayne went most of his life either not knowing or caring about his force abilities until they manifested during his time aboard a Imperial-II Star Destroyer. He was quickly inducted into the Inquisitor program, which he took to with the same fervor and ambition as his normal duties, forming an unquestionably loyal, and for more stable Imperial Inquisitor.

Much better if i do say so myself!  ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/XXL9aVi.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/CDFfMy2.jpg)

I have to say that something about this drawing reminds me back of my childhood, playing with the old Kenner SW action figures (although there was no such thing as the Inquisitorious at that time  ;)) where certain other characters were Force-sensitives.

I am really liking his backstory, PS^^  Wouldn't mind hearing more my friend!

PS, is that Ancient Sith writing on the lapels of your Sith character?  I don't think it's Aurebesh IIRC...

Point!

Meant to resemble Sith Runes to be sure, but its all nonsense scribbles to tell the truth  ;D

And uh....you ever look back at a drawing you did a bit ago and have a waaay different opinion. Ashla is cool and all, but blast he's got some big feet  ::)

With that line going through the middle of the page, it looks like this dude is mostly submerged.

It was supposed to be lens flare. This particular one didnt come out as good as initially thought  ::)

That's alright

A little bit of a return to form - just a simple saber for y'all today  :)

(https://i.imgur.com/6i6tHEI.jpg)

OK, I don't know exactly what it is about this saber but it's absolutely FANTASTIC!

Hmmm...this is the PERFECT hilt for...er, a character that I was thinking about.

PM on the way PS  ;D

Oh, and Point!

Also! Heres a project thats been floating in my head so I finally put pen to paper.

My new profile pic for the forums!

(https://i.imgur.com/kruUBfS.jpg)

Darth Vansi?

Good catch! Darth Vansi is my personal pick for Darth title. Honestly if the forums would let me, I'd have switched my username to that while ago.

Hi PsychoSith,

Great design, I love it but it shows how much we are alike...I just finished a model for a "more elegantly curved hilt"! I saw the suggestions from members Darth Tepes, hrafna, chalion and Bob Loblaw in the Ultrasabers Wishlist thread and figured I'd see what I could come up with.

Thing is, I kinda like your design better  ;D  Anyhow, I'll post my design in the new year as I have a few other hilts waiting that I need to showcase.

Again great work +1 point

Are we getting another For Tyeth/PsychoSith collaboration?!

YES!!!!_{if so} ;D

Hi Dutch, er sorry to disappoint but I hadn't planned a collaboration at the moment as several other members have been keeping me busy with projects.  ::)

Having said that I don't mind being busy and as a way of apology if you check your inbox I may have a sneak peek for you of my project.

If Psycho would like me to do another render or two of the Vicar i can add it to my "to do list".

I wouldnt want to overstress you - no pressure at all from me! Just do the projects that make you happy  :)

Points to y'all for the kind words   ;D

Hi Psycho, thanks man, I do have a few photo editing jobs on ATM but I will render the Vicar for you. I'm not the quickest worker as my laptop is slow but I will get round to it. In the meantime I'll send you pictures of the curved hilts I just finished (I just sent copies to Dutch too)

Thanks again and I'm loving the designs you are a producing.

In that case I can't wait to see it! Kudos to you as well, your designs continue to inspire!

Contact Ultra. He should be able to do it. I know Noctis changed from Jedi Nox because of all the confusion with Darth Knox.

Also, I think if you played your cards right, you might be able to get that blade effect pulled off on a flat from Ripper Blades.

So.......how long until we see this rendered? ::)

At this point I think I'd just confuse people if I changed it  ;D

Meh. Pretty sure Sakura No Kaze used to be Vivectius.

I think you are right, but I also think that the reason he changed his name is because he couldn't remember his login info for Viv, so he just created a new account.

I tried that once, but it wouldn't let me create a new account.

You would have to use a different email.

I have several at my disposal, and it wouldn't let me get on.

Simple one today.

I thought it would be interesting if a saber was abandoned on Ilum or some such - leaving the crystal within to continue to grow in the humid, icy caves.

(https://i.imgur.com/Vm8Q6sY.jpg)

This is a contradiction. If you have ice, then you don't have humidity. :-\

touche - bad wording on my part

Really like this one, another way to look at it is like the crystal grows with a semi sentience of its own based on the imprint from the jedi who owned it originally, as it grows across the sabre that strengthens as well...sabre and crystal become one object indivisible over time rather than the crystal being one component among many...
Great doodle spurs many ideas about what it is where it is from how it works for me! And looks super cool!

Thanks! I have a soft spot for crystals and ice so I'm surprised i didnt think of this one before!

Wonderful design PS!  Absolutely love the marriage between saber and crystal; the fact that the crystal seems to be growing out of the hilt looks awesome!

Agreed!  In fact, maybe this is what happened to Odjina's saber on Vyth over the centuries  ;)

Point!

A soft spot for ice and crystals?  Isn’t that rather ironic?  LOL

Heh. +1

Oh, you had to go and say that...    ;-)

It was just such a perfect set-up...  ;)

(https://i.imgur.com/0rTig8s.jpg)

Just a quick post-and-run for the end of the day!

Hi Psycho, nice saber and I see what you did there with the name and handgrip rails!

point incoming.

Thanks! I wanted to do something "inspired by" but still my own. I incorporated a few elements from Anakin's hilt as well

Oh, I like!

You know, you could almost "kit bash" this one from US and TCSS parts....     Hmm.....

I had that in mind at a couple points. Sadly the TCSS / US kitbash ive been planning isnt quite this...

I started our redoing the old "Sith" drawing I found and it just gradually became its own thing. So here's that.

(https://i.imgur.com/OQ2FVF4.jpg)

Nice has a cool Japanese look in the robes and a zen power vibe hovering with sabres behind.

Thanks for saying so! Also just a heads up -

Happy news! I actually over the past year have managed to completely fill the sketchbook I've always used for this thread! My new sketchbook is a different size, so the drawings may look slightly different. Just to keep y'all in the loop!

Keepin' it simple: one of our newer user gave me the idea to do a saber based on the old Lego lightsabers!

(https://i.imgur.com/XLoAe6X.jpg)

Hey For. Ju go' sum work tado.

Cool as that would be I know he's on a hell of a backlog right now, so there's not gonna be any pushing from me.


Anywho my next project is starting to take shape

(https://i.imgur.com/s9RPYL3.jpg)

Oh, my... this seems ambitious.  I look forward to the output.

Hi Logos and Psycho,

@Darth Logos:
I am still around but I have been a little rushed off my feet over the past month so haven't been able to keep with with projects. I sent you a PM and included a work in progress I have managed to knock up. I should have full renders to post in about a week or two.

@Psycho, really nice set of hilts but please don't ask me to build a hilt of "All the Jedi", I've already completed my Rise of Skywalker Collection!  ;)

This is beautiful.


But this, this is amazing. SO excited to see the end result of this project.

Not at all! I'm just doodling away - I get whats it's like to be behind the curve on art. Its important to take projects at your own pace.

Alright, I got that project done, and frankly, I'm pretty proud of this one.

(https://i.imgur.com/kYsKsSY.jpg)

Revan
Sidious
Maul
Tyranus
Vader

Bonus points if you can point out which saber I got each part from  ;D

The emitter is from Vader's
The neck is from Sidious'
The Claw (though not a direct copy) was inspired by Tyranus'
The body is Revan's
The pommel is inspired by Maul's emitter.

Perfect!  ;D

Here's a fun mini-game:

Im doing a doodle/sketch of my top three favorite SW villains. Whoever can guess the most right gets a point!

Um....    Luke, Leia and Yoda.  ;-)   

What?   He's a Sith!   Of course the Jedi are the villains of the piece from his POV...   :)

Tempted to give you a point for creativity alone  ;D

Fine, fine....favorite antagonists from a story perspective.

Sidious, Ren, and Revan.

No, no, I'm gonna have to say Maul, Grievous and Vader.

Ok, ok....

Palpatine, Dukoo and Vader.

Thus far Logos is the closest  ;)

Ill leave this going till I finish the sketch

Second (third?) guess:  Sidious, Revan, and Bane.

Jar-Jar, Porgs, and Ewoks

On the board. WOOT WOOT.

Revan, Sidious, and Maul?

I'll give you all a hint - 2/3 are from non-movie content  ;)

Drawing should be in presentable condition tomorrow.

Hmmm....

Sidious, Revan, Nihilus

Point for that!  :-)

Thanks!  I was beginning to think I might be the only one here who found them all incredibly annoying, useless, and distracting.

Not at all!

I never felt totally annoyed at the Ewoks.   Sure, they're teddy bears, but they at least held up their end in a fight.

But Porgs?   Chewie had the right idea in the first place.   And don't get me started on Darth Jar Jar....

Don't just don't.


(https://i.imgur.com/CDHdVe4.jpg)

Hi all,

Sorry but I just have to ask....If Vader skewered 5 or 6 Porgs on his saber...would that be a SITH Kebab?  ::) :P

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO..................<inhales>OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Hmm...

Sidious, Revan, Caedus. There are too many outside the movies.

Logos did get the closest guess with Ren / Sidious / Revan

Though Taegin's right I probably shouldve given a better hint. Oh well point to Logos and here y'all go


Correct answer: Trilla Suduri / Kylo Ren / Darth Traya

(https://i.imgur.com/k23OgfE.jpg)

Sadly the drawing isnt quite what I hoped. I decided to finish it at 2 am in a sleep-deprived state. went right for the 6B pencil without using lighter shades then used a pen with a frayed tip soo  :-\

You sound like you’re apologizing, and from what I see, you should be proud of your work, not ashamed or apologetic.  This looks great to me!

It'll be a warm day on hoth when I'm satisfied with my own drawings  ::)

(https://media.giphy.com/media/MUeQeEQaDCjE4/giphy.gif)

Technically Ren is the final realization of Caedus. -_-

They do bear a lot of similarities

Didn't even think of the Second Sister. Beautiful drawings for sure.

Thanks for saying so! I really really enjoyed Trilla as the main antagonist. Props to her VA.

Anywho its been raining a bunch here so I did a few nautical-themed sabers. Also trying a new style with the blade effects.

(https://i.imgur.com/8nkWOlr.jpg)

I know you're going for nautical themes, but the Seven Seas is bugging me with the sextant inspired guard. Reminds me too much of that dumb thing from that dumb movie. :P

Fair enough, though you said yourself, supposed to represent a sextant, not a...whatever that was. (Even I admit the dagger thing was kinda weird)

Mr. Fantastic couldn't have made that stretch.

All three of those are beautiful, but Poseidon's Law is my favorite. Poseidon has always been one of my favorite characters from Greek mythology, and that saber looks fitting of him for sure.

Gotta agree. I love the "trident" emitter.

Great saber Psycho, but for the second time (IIRC) I have to agree with Logos about the dagger thing. Wasn't the dagger described as being an ancient Sith artifact yet it had to have been made/modified what, 30 years ealier to point to the location of said second object?

@Logos: How about Stretch Armstrong making the argument?

point to Psycho once again.

That was my first choice, but I didn't want to use the word 'stretch' twice in one sentence.

I actually REALLY like this drawing, PS.  Darth Traya in particular looks...haunting (apropos considering her history IMO).  I think you did a remarkable job!

Some VERY interesting developments going on with these sabers!  All have some incredible details but I think that I like Poseidon's Law (great name!) the best out of the three  :)  These hilts look like they'd be right at home with some of the primal Jedi/Sith of Ulic Qel-Droma's time.  Awesome job my friend!

Point!

Yeah, TRoS was...not good.  But at least your saber's sextant-detail IS pertinent for the weapon, NOT just a "MacGuffin" for the lone, contrived sake of adding a convoluted quest to pad movie time...

Thanks for the compliments! I find it weird that everyone seems to be liking Poseidon's Law so much as it was my least favorite of the three! But thats also why I try to do stuff outside of my own aesthetic - I know people's taste on sabers is *super* variable.

I actually very much enjoyed TRoS (shocker, I know), but the dagger was weird. You can see more of my thoughts in the TRoS Thoughts thread http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=43272.0 (http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=43272.0)

Been feeling....unsatisfied with myself lately in regards to art. The next few posts here will be farther apart, but rest assured its because I'm actually taking my time and not doing 5-10m quick doodles.

You can’t rush art; it’ll be ready when it’s ready.

Alrighty, so.

You may have noticed any pencil-shaded drawings I have done recently the shading is more poorly done. I too noticed and am remanding myself to drawing boot camp so to speak. My next few sabers, labeled "back to basics" will avoid the common shortcuts I have previously taken on my saber doodles and just draw the saber as envisioned. I will include with each one a line diagram closer to my typical style at the top to give more detail since I tend to be heavy-handed with the pencils.

First one fresh off the notepad: the Shii-Cho

(https://i.imgur.com/MERRQ0c.jpg)

I like it. Simple yet functional, with a touch of personality.


Just please don't automatically do a curved hilt and call it "Makashi". -_-

I've already drawn a hilt titled "Makashi" - it was the hilt based upon a Foil

Hi Psycho,

I like the design, I have to say though I thought the etch on the shroud was Gallifreyan (I think I spelt that correctly) symbols and you'd done a Doctor Who themed hilt.

Not quite - was going for the "World Between Worlds" aesthetic especially based on the skill tree screen from JFO

Okay, so when will we see a “Doctor Who”-themed hilt, then?  Just, please, please, PLEASE go with the sonic screwdriver, not the sonic sunglasses!

Hmm....

Next addition to the BtB series:

(https://i.imgur.com/NYQdVfD.jpg)

Yes please. For, render this. Then get Emory. I have spoken.

Glad you approve! Decided not to do the line drawing to accompany this one as I already drew it in a profile view to begin with. Coming up with the BtB designs is harder than I expected! Already have a steadily growing pile of rejects, but I think the quality of the two I have finished thus far makes up for that

Wait....did you borrow for a certain....Epoch? ::)

Very nice!  That could be done on an Aeon or Initiate V3 or V2 with some PVC...

@Psycho: I like this design, the double angled slanted emitter and the windows work really well together.

@Logos: I think I could render this but it may take a little while as I am swapping to a new version of Blender 3D so I have to install everything and transfer my files over to the new version. I'll get onto modelling it as soon as I can.

points inbound

The Sith didn't take over the galaxy being impatient. ;)

Not sure what you mean here?

I REALLY like this one. Points!

BtB III

Started with a more western feel and the idea of "what if Smith and Wesson were to make a lightsaber?" I'm not sure if i achieved this and frankly this is my least favorite btb, but I put enough work into it I'd feel annoyed if i didnt post it.

(https://i.imgur.com/ovjgsiY.jpg)

PS and friends,

I've been chewing on this weapon and the concept of the Cantors - both their philosophy and the formation of these weapons and their use - for a while and I wanted to float an idea on the techno-babble aspect of the weapon.    Specifically: The Dual-Channel Emitter.

For the "Cantor" version of this weapon, I would postulate the following:   The original impetus behind the DCE (see what I did there?  Acronym - now its "Official") was a lack of adequate focusing crystals to build a "matrix" similar to that which Karmack and contemporary Singers in the Mak'Tor use to boost their more traditional blade's power and strength.  What they have are many smaller crystals, mostly in the 1-2 karat range, that individually are far to small to be effective.  But when arranged in a staggered, offset line they form a very powerful focusing matrix that channels and flattens the plasma blade.  The "cutting edge" is actually quite thin and the protective shroud that covers the crystals and their mounting system as well as the internal plasma conduits and vents are made of Song Steel, with the edges sharpened and honed for both precision in blade formation and to serve as a secondary cutting edge at need.  Even without the plasma blade the weapon is impressive, and training is done with an impact sheath which allows the Cantors to spar full-speed with their primary weapons without fear of death or dismemberment.

The weapon is nearly 2 meters long without the blade ignited and gains an additional 10-15cm of length when fully energized due to the blade tip.  The blades themselves are generally white, but the multiplicity of small crystals and the intense force-focus needed to build the weapon causes most guard weapons to have a very interesting rainbow "shimmer" effect along the very edge, leading some to refer to the massive weapons as "shimmer spears" or just "shimmers". 

The weapon is generally carried in a cross-back scabbard or via a carry strap affixed to the back-strap of the blade and the hilt, allowing the weapon to be slung over the shoulder.  For storage and maintenance the blade detaches from the hilt just above the Tsuba.

** Thanks again to PsychoSith for letting me play with his AMAZING hilt design! **

2m seems a bit excessive. Most people aren't even that long.

True 'nuff, I was going off of the doodle for scale, assuming the individual pictured is about normal size...

Let me do some research on Zhanmadao, and maybe conform the scale to that weapon.

I'd have gone 1-1.2m.

Nah.   That's barely longer than a normal lightsaber.  :-)

I think I'm going to stick with 2m overall.   Maybe 2m with the blade ignited, shortened by about 20cm when the plasma isn't flowing.

Put the Tsuba at the about 50cm, so a very long hilt behind the Tsuba and another 15-20cm ahead of it before the blade channel begins....

I'm not including blade length. Alright, with blade, and judging by the image of it being held, I'll estimate 60" tops.

I love it Karmack! Im honored!

And if it helps, the historical sword its based on, the Zhanmadao, is approx. 200 cm long from end to end, perfectly 2 meters.

Exactly.  So I'm going with 2m.   :-)   Its supposed to be HUGE, so....   

I had the honor of holding/handling an original once. It wans't as large as you would imagine (but I'm 2,03m tall ;) )

Let me help you on your research. The man behind this article is (one of) the leading persons in the field of historical chinese arms. Also the one who gave me the honor of holding a few of his sabers. Including the miaodao mine is based upon. Anyway, here's the article:
https://www.mandarinmansion.com/article/chinese-long-sabers-qing-dynasty (https://www.mandarinmansion.com/article/chinese-long-sabers-qing-dynasty)
When interrested in historical chinese (asian) weapons, his side is nice to have look around.

Fun fact about drawing a miaodao, zhanmadao of similar blades, sometimes you needed your collegue on the battlefield:
(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/0cde99_741db3b378924f658815509511dcb185.jpg)

Working on being less heavy-handed. Lighter shades and all that. Plus some inspiration from High Republic

BtB IV

(https://i.imgur.com/SDNtlRo.jpg)

I assume that's supposed to be a tattered wrap?

I was going more for torn rubber/formed leather grip

Just a quick doodle of Vansi

(https://i.imgur.com/ZSM3sdj.jpg)

OK, I have to admit that after your (INCREDIBLE!!) Beskar Breaker, THIS saber is my favorite!  From the angled emitter shroud to the finned pommel, the clean lines of this hilt is just...awesome  :).  LOVE this!

While it isn't my favorite either, I actually like the oblique perspective.  This hilt seems like it would go very well among a Jedi Sentinel's arsenal (apropos naming  ;))

Wow...this is...wow...

OK, now that I know better what the Cantors weapon of choice is, I can include this for an upcoming chapter in Storms (with your permission, of course PS  :)).

And I like the 2 meter length; matches the power of the Cantors (like Karm said)^^

Wow, learn something new every day  ;)

Awesome fact(s), TCCW!  I'd love to hear more!

I can TOTALLY see this as a "High Republic" weapon!  Elegant yet dangerous, beautiful and deadly...

You should include this with one of your story chapters, PS!  Fantastic  :D

Thanks for the kind words! The Lujing seems to be a bit of a hit - I think that one came out well myself (though of the BtB I still think the Shii-Cho came out the best). As for including the pic of Vansi i was on the fence about that. Sure I have an idea of what he looks like, but I like people coming up with their own interpretations too, and I didnt want to restrict any mental images people would have come up with :)

Still pretty busy with work right now, but I did do a doodle awhile ago based on the Hive swords in the Destiny franchise. Hope thisll hold yall over while i work on better stuff  ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/OG5JMyD.jpg)

I really like the hilt and pommel of this saber, PS (reminds me of "Highlander"  ;)).

And I can't wait to see what you've got for us in the future^^

We now return to our reguarly scheduled programming

(https://i.imgur.com/FDVLOye.jpg)

Nice Togruta. Nice saber too.

Awesome tells a story in that illustration and title. And the saber has a very old old republic feel.

Wonderful, PS!  Like LSG said, this hilt DOES have an "Old Republic" feel about it.  Great looking saber!

...And I like your Togruta, kind of giving a benediction to their padawan  ;)

Beautiful feeling radiates form that picture! Thank you.

This reminds me: one of the biggest pleasures of the FanFic forums are seeing all things SW rendered in incredible detail, and for that I really have to commend both PsychoSith and For Tyeth with their amazing work*!

*_{made all the more poignant since I have NO artistic ability whatsoever; I can't even draw stick people  ;)}

you give me too much credit! I'm just a schmuck with a pencil, I still struggle with some really basic concepts sometimes, and I've been drawing in some from or another since middle school

Gonna do a few iterations of this one, try out new ways to do shading, blades, and tweak the design.

(https://i.imgur.com/pi6M7Eh.jpg)

Ooooooooooo  :o

Glad to see you approve!  ;D

you do great pencil work i can barley write my name with one thats why i stick with 3d im not the greatest but i manage to get my ideas thru. if you would like perhaps we can work together on saber designs

Nice like the archaic/pieced together look, like its a different type of technology used to make it.

Wow PS...I mean...

WOW!

This is yet another fantastic saber rendering!  I really like this one, from the unstable blade to the differing diameters and textures incorporated in the hilt!  Wonderful job  :)

Point!

Im always up for collabs! For Tyeth and I have done a few.


I still dont know the precise aesthetic I was going for I just know I wanted it to look different.


Thanks to you and the others for the kind words as always! The v2 will be coming shortly. Going for lighter textures, cleaner lines, and a less weathered appearance for the next iteration.

Cleaner, lighter, and well-mainted. The Conqueror V2


(https://i.imgur.com/yDww0La.jpg)

another nice one sir !! with your permission may i reproduce this in 3d

Absolutely! Have at it - cant wait to see the results!

Thank you !!

first run at it sir, let me know if you wish changes, color scheme aging etc

(http://i.imgur.com/RfU0Woch.jpg) (https://imgur.com/RfU0Woc)

added a lil touch to it
(http://i.imgur.com/QCn3n5Uh.jpg) (https://imgur.com/QCn3n5U)

I don't think I said it when you first posted the Conqueror, but man, that is a beautiful hilt.

This is an absolutely wonderful design PS!  Definitely among the top 3 IMO  :)

Well deserved point!


I LIKE this, HH!  Fantastic rendering; reminds me of the collaboration between PS and FT (which I would HIGHLY recommend you check out  :D).

Great job!

Thats a great render! Love the sheen you got on the metal! You've got some definite talent! Point!



Thanks! Im surpised people like this one so much - it's got to be one of my most random design in terms of inspiration and aesthetic. Didnt really have any, just kinda drew it.

<golf clap>

Got some new pencils and blending tortillions. Ill post the "breaking in" of new art supplies

Tortillions? That sounds like corn chips.

Theyre an excellent tool for shading. I hate them. Reason being youre effectivley rubbing a carboard stump against paper which is - for me - equivalent to nails on chalkboard. But it makes shading a lot more precise and smooth. Imagine a small thick rolled paper cone.

EDIT: These new pencils are smoooooooooooooth. Love these.

Went for a fusion of WWI british Trench fighter uniforms and Jedi robes. Cause why not.

(https://i.imgur.com/AfQlf6X.jpg)

Why not indeed, looks really cool and unique, retro kind of look like out of some trench battle in the New Sith Wars.

I envy your skills sir i can not draw anything by hand

I'm the same. Fantastic work! I can't seem to get better and hand-drawing, but I always love seeing great work.

...Once again inspiration strikes with seeing one of your awesome drawings, PS!

PM forthcoming...

I do have plans for this one, though I'm still receptive!


Something like that...


Practice! I've been practicing since middle school and I'm never going to be satisfied with my own style/work. I find most people are better at drawing than they give themselves credit for.

In that case, I am really looking forward to seeing what you've got planned  :)

whats do you have cooking sir?

A slight hangover at the moment. As for drawing projects I've been working on a large non-SW drawing project lately hence my quiet here. Ill put out somethin this week though.

Been there done that

Can't wait  :)

There will be art soon, I promise. There's just SO. MANY. BOXES.


AND I DONT KNOW WHICH ONE HAS MY PENCILS

What boxes? Are you moving or better sending me you're entire saber collection?

Moved. Unpacking process.

My sabers!

Also, i still have some pencils at work so i shot out a 10-minute doodle for y'all while i find my actual drawing supplies.

(https://i.imgur.com/MiOFH0w.jpg)

Wonderful, PS!

I love the combination of the dual-shroud emitter and a thin neck  :)

Point!

Nice one +ds point

That explains the hold up in production.

Points for this. I love it!

Indeed!


Glad you enjoyed this one! I was afraid I didnt give it the attention it deserved.

Anywho, back to business as normal. Wanted to make a more ceremonial saber and futzed with the idea of an asymmetrical crossguard.

(https://i.imgur.com/N8vl9h3.jpg)

another great one sir

Hesa! For! Get on this render.

ok

Glad to see this one is “Logos approved”!

B-E-A-Utiful hilt, PS!!

Those are some CLEAN lines, my friend  :)

Point!

The Order of Knighthood saber is wicked, Psycho

Normally I disapprove of exposed crystals, but there's something....special about this design. It's elaborate without going too far. I also like the emitter shroud, and how it moves into the handguard. Well done.

Something I wanted from this design was for the parts to "flow" together, especially near the emitter, so im glad I conveyed that well!

And thanks to all others! Didnt expect a ceremonial style to be as popular but Im glad y'all like it!

I would actually like this hanging on my wall. HELL! I'd like to incorporate this into a cosplay. Something about a Sithy Capt. Rochefort

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lh91ibs5Qm1qg2k6lo1_540.jpg)

That would be really cool - and is very high praise! Thanks again

Got a character AND a saber for y'all today!

(https://i.imgur.com/InSUOmz.jpg)

Might do an independent drawing of the saber later.

Nice drawing, PS!

Is this a Devaronian Sith?  I shudder to think what messed up their entire left side...

Point!

Thanks! I’m really proud of this one - and yes! Master Sciro’os is a Devaronian Sith Sorceror injured via improvised explosives, courtesy of some of his workers.


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Sorry for the quiet! Just acquired a new drawing station so things should pick up a little bit

Hello PsychoSith and Darth Logos....

I'll just leave this here.....

http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=40017.msg778218#msg778218 (http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=40017.msg778218#msg778218)

Hope you like.

A little fun with the "forbidden crossover"

super quick sketch

(https://i.imgur.com/HNI3qvT.jpg)

Hi Psycho,
I can see what you've done here with the nacelle...but you do know the Enterprise is gonna be limping round in circles now instead of boldly going forward?  ;D

You might want to check your inbox as I have a link for you to check out ok! point awarded.

As a fan of both SW AND ST, this hilt looks absolutely amazing!  And I've always thought that the warp nacelles from the movies looked fantastic  :)

Point sir!

Just catching up, but see, this isn't fair. This "10-minute doodle" is better than anything I could do, no matter how long it took. And I have even done a bit of drawing (not much, but a bit).

Thanks for the kindness all! I've been out of the artistic loop lately as I have been dealing with a few IRL life projects but should be back drawing/writing soon :)

OI! Where'd the arts go?

Been busy, but otherwise point taken. Arts incoming soon

;D ;D ;D

Behold; art? Its a lot of graphite, thats for sure.

(https://i.imgur.com/BpWmr8I.jpg)

But it resulted in lots of great shading.

Wow PS, these look phenomenal!

You did these in pencil/graphite?!

AMAZING  :)

Point of course!

Thanks to both of ya! And yes, these were done entirely with pencil. (I used HB, 2B, and 4B iirc)

Hmm... Is anyone else seeing a sentence/motto in this photo?


Ambition in Spite of Disgust?

No, just me? Okay...

It's a Sith thing, you wouldn't understand.

Not quite that clever I'm afraid. Just a motif for each design. Though eagle-eyes viewers might notice "Disgust" does not hold its' origins within Star Wars...

Looks slightly Borg.

Not quite but Biomechanical is the right line of thought

You lost me.

In the grim darkness of the 41st millennium...there are only lightsabers.

In all seriousness though, I have a soft spot for Warhammer 40k, and the "Disgust" concept was based on the Skitarii of the Adeptus Mechanicus. A charming group of hyper-religious cyborgs who have open and deep-seated disgust and disdain for their own organic bodies - hence their predilection to replace much of it with cybernetics.

For reference:

(http://i.imgur.com/Qddo3y2.jpg)

Ah. Not familiar.

If you ever feel like designing one based on Tau, think if we ever get army wide melee weapons they would make sense that Tau have the lighsabers (that or Orks just believe it will work)

If only Tau could melee....yet I find the design ideas intriguing. Might have to pursue that one. And I have have kunserns about how an Orc lightsaber would go....

Wow, I haven't seen much with Warhammer 40k since high school...long, LONG ago  ;)

I had a nice miniature of some awesome skull-helmeted, power-gloved, chain-gun wielding Terminator armor (which got lost during one of my moves between teenager living->adulting)...makes me wish that I'd been able to find it again.

Awesome job, PS!  Keep them coming  :)

More incoming. Using drawing to get my mind off the utter vitriol, inevitable drama, and pervasive negativity that surrounds this season.

As a side note and life lesson (if there's any worth learning from a mid-20's IT worker), please remember to be respectful of other people. Full stop. I do not, can not, and will not listen to anyone who fights their battles by putting down others. Do not be that person. Narcissism is an intolerable trait.

(http://i.imgur.com/wELAB81.jpg)

This thing looks ancient and sinister. -1

Having trouble reading though:

"Holocron of the Mad S_ol

Never mind. I think you're only supposed to use cherek when you're actually make a "ch" sound, not when making a hard "ck" as in 'scholar'.

Hi Psycho, now this is how a Sith Holocron should look like. I wasn't a massive fan of the Wayfinder from TROS (well it's sort of a holocron) as it was too modern looking. This one you have created for Logos' collection really looks as if it has Sith magic inside.

Well deserved darkside point on it's way.

The Wayfinder was a blasphemous abomination.

Duly noted

Have been thinking about Flamberges lately...

Wow.   Kinda takes "If thy right hand offends thee, cut it off and cast it away..." to a whole new level....

Indeed, the Mechanicus are a....special group.

But enough of Warhammer! Star Wars adaptations of historically significant weapons await!

(http://i.imgur.com/HrbNREE.jpg)

The Flamberge (or more accurately, the Flammenschwert) was historically used as Zweihander-type weapon famed for its "flame-blade" that could cause grievous wounds that were far harder to heal / recover from. Now obviously, a lightsaber wouldnt necessarily benefit from a wave-shaped blade, however I thought it would be interesting if certain blade conditions could otherwise replicate the appearance. I decided on a unique combo of a flat unstable blade. The instability effect partially reminiscent of Kylo's but the "pulsating" waveform mostly taken from the Force Unleashed II's unstable crystals.

With the flat blade being traditionally Mandalorian in design, combined with the need for two guards as per the design of most Flamberges, I thought Beskar would make a fitting material for the metal of the hilt and guard. This also makes it an interesting parallels to my previous Beskar Breaker, which was designed to cut through the Mandalorian metal using a similar Zweihander-based design. The design here is unquestionably Sith, perhaps an ancient Dominus of Mandalore? That one I leave up to you.

If you are curious where the idea of a Sith with a Flamberge came from, look up the "Warmonger" hero from the game For Honor on youtube. Not gonna link it here cause that game is a bit visceral , and I wanna keep with forum guidelines.

And lastly I do apologize for the slight decrease in quality - I havent drawn in almost a full month thanks to work going into overdrive. Just wanted to let yall know I havent forgotten about you!  ;D

Looks pretty good to me, concept behind it is great too, can see people running in the opposite direction of anyone carrying that beast.

I'm now definitely a fan of Psycho Sith's work. Glad I noticed this thread, and looked through it a bit... I haven't seen your older hidden/buried works but I had thought I would draw out a concept sketch I had in mind for a few months. You inspired me to contribute, and put my design out there (even though I know it is nowhere near the level of your attention to detail.) I originally planned to only show it off after building my prototype (since I have looked a bit extensively and don't think there exists a similar design yet?). This is my own adaptation of the planned weapon inspired by US. I'm thinking I'll define the weapon type as lightsaber halberd, since I like that as the best description overall at the moment.

1st sketch of: Vi'kas iv qormuo kesmas
(https://i.imgur.com/fl5gUOA.jpg)

Meant to be a similar weapon to a saberstaff, or something I've seen for the first time online today (double checking I wasn't purely duplicating an existing idea unintentionally) the cross saber? They'd both have a relatively similar fighting style to what I'd envisioned. But like my saberstaff I'd see this as a whole weapon that can become two on the fly.
The axe head being made of beskar, and fashioned in the shape of a Sith symbol: the Black Sun. Basically being one giant emitter/weapon in it's own right. This accomplishing several things deflecting enemy lightsabers as almost a shield when wielded in Jar' Kai, it can still be used to cut through materials only lightsabers could with it's tip, but also beskar Mandalorian armor or other lightsaber resistant armor with the sheer force/puncturing of the axe tips & blade edges, and worse yet dismembering foes through chopping them up/ bloody gashes left wide open. Meant to inflict grievous harm without cauterizing like lightsabers do. Purposefully leaving victims suffering in agony but dying, with their pain and fear fueling the user's Dark Side rampage exponentially as they lay waste across a battlefield.
The other hilt is a standard lightsaber with a very long blade, closer to the 40" US blade inserted. So the full weapon gives the user a lot of reach, but separated a full length lightsaber. It's emitter having 2 protruding small blades (also likely beskar) so even unignited it can be used for stabbing, then you can ignite the blade and cut free of the target if it gets "hung up" in there or simply to instill terror in those watching.

Envisioned as a weapon crafted for a "Darth Maul" trained category of warrior, more Sith Berserker than anything else and fashioned in the old Sith Empire. Most likely for one who was a slave but proved skilled and effective to the point their connection to the Force was noticed. Then they were given the "honor of higher service" and trained as more than cannon fodder, actually trained in the lightsaber arts. So yeah, that's the basics of the design concept, fighting style, and character I'd have wield it. Viewing it as something my persona would have created, given to a worthy servant, and reclaimed for personal use after that servant's inevitable demise. But having been crafted for "a chosen one of promise" is where the name and design details started: translated as Prophet of Endless Suffering. It's truly meant to be a weapon for the middle of a chaotic battlefield, swung in any/all directions and fighting multiple opponents at once.

I know that's a lot, but I wanted to put everything out there with the initial drawing before improving it further.

Okay so first I wanna say that YES I am very happy to see other contributions to this thread!

Second YES! I love this design. I’ve played around with a light Halberd/Polearm a few times but never made it work enough to be happy with it - you did what I couldn’t! The incorporation of a physical axe blade also really helps the “beserker” feeling. Point! (When I get back to my laptop - can’t give points on mobile)

Thank you for the encouragement, I always loved art but lacked the results I could ever be happy with... no matter how much time and effort it always seemed impossible to physically synthesize what I see in my mind on whatever medium in the physical realm to a level I found satisfying. With age I suppose I've simply said F it, do what you can in limited fashion and just go from there, Rome wasn't built in a day style.

I just had the idea from parts and a desired style of movement, almost like your "scrap queen" IRL partly in action. The idea of like a siege/crowd control weapon with a Sith screaming "Bring it Jedi, I'll kill you all!" like Maul always craved, but able to amid the crazy full scale warfare of old. The big thought of crushing through armor (ironically like your beskar breaker, without knowing of it 1st), but mainly a nasty "long side" sweep at knee/shin level immobilizing opponents and naturally finishing the motion stabbing/slamming down the halberd axe tip into their torso in ruthless efficiency. It just in concept was such a fun and sadistic weapon I couldn't help sharing it once I found this topic. Your work and enthusiasm really bolstered my own into true action.

This GIF I found best describes the feeling you've give this Xmas
(http://i.imgur.com/MMqe6gV.jpg)
I appreciate such a gift.

So here is my slightly more detailed version of the sketch on my Lightsaber Halberd Vi'kas iv qormuo kesmas: since I finally got around to doing it in a bit more detail. I tried to show them separated and a bit closer to how I intended, while messing around with shading the sketch in a bit overall. Not crazy upset with the result "as is" for the moment, although I had no intention of double posting; I was moderately surprised PS hadn't released anything yet in the new year... I'd of course be happy to hear his or FT's opinions since they are artists whom I respect and feel could offer the best constructive opinions/criticisms. But everyone else is obviously free to comment as well, as desired/should they choose to, upon the design.

(http://i.imgur.com/XpXIqfm.jpg)  (http://i.imgur.com/hSxhHSz.jpg)

Looking real good! I like how you keep the Halberd design inspiration while also giving it the utility of a saberstaff.

And I’ve got some ideas for my first 2021 saber percolating but I haven’t decided on an idea yet. Was thinking something along the lines of High Republic but dark side? Maybe something elegant and high-style from the “bad guys”

That sounds great, since many Sith are so ostentatious in their affluence or seemingly avaricious. Wealth, prestige, and power do tend to comingle, and many Sith can't have enough of any of it. It sounds like an exceptionally good base concept, it's especially thought provoking for me already, and best of luck rendering it to your satisfaction.


Thanks, that was always the original idea, for it to be a "unique" yet familiar weapon. Then when separated to be very different weapons entirely. Old world savagery on the one hand that rises into higher tech brutality, yet far reaching destruction in the other which defends the old ways and the user in pure offense... The whole thing being relatively symbolic while keeping with "the best defense is a good offence" where even your "shield" is a weapon. Glad you enjoy the concept, I can't wait to piece together my first version (when funds permit).

Hmm, Interesting.....I can't promise anything as my current laptop isn't as fast as my old one that crashed but I do have this I have knocked up  ::)

(https://ftsabersite.files.wordpress.com/2021/01/prodigalhalberd-test-mk-1-1.png)

Give me a week and hopefully I'll have somethng a bit more finished.

That's terrible to hear FT, sad to hear that your computer met such a tragic end! But by all means, a profound thank you for rendering my design at all. It's seriously appreciated, that's the highest praise I could hope for. It'll be awesome to see it fully in a 3D render, I won't even slightly complain about that...throw it on the back burner as long as needed since I'm in no rush. Heck I like seeing just the axe head emitter already done in such a way. In fact you honor me, so again thank you For Tyeth; you're the best.

Hmm...more art is needed.

Something more....tech based this time. Some aeronautical influences. Imagined a Toroidal Spike as a way to increase efficiency of the blade, perhaps cutting a bit easier. Also it looks cool.

(http://i.imgur.com/BkfCEZ7.jpg)

Beautiful work, PS!  Yeah, I can see the aerodynamic influence to this hilt (wonderful details)!

...Reminds me of the Gamilon energy cannon in Pluto base from "Star Blazers" (yep, I'm THAT old  ;))

I love this design!!!
The grip section is it T-Grips or more like windu's grip?

Certainly closer to Windu's in the this case. I find vertical grips give really good orientation control so they find their way onto many of my designs.

Where I didnt grow up with the show ive seen quite a few clips through osmosis and general wandering through youtube - I admit my mind sometimes wanders into "superweapon" territory for star wars....

Regardless of the source of your inspiration, AWESOME looking saber PS  :)

Thanks!

hmm....been too long without a new saber design.

Then allow me to submit to you my PERSONAL favorite "PsychoSith Saber Design" during the interim:

The Beskar Breaker!
(https://i.ibb.co/fVWCmnw/Vhal-Dan-Cataphract-Zweihander.jpg)
...Which I co-opted for my own Vhal'Dan Zweihander_{with permission!}  ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/UCDfPqO.jpg)

This seems interesting, though I don't understand one of those words... May just be a word I don't know.

PS, you tease!

This (from what I can see) looks interesting.  Looking forward to the finished product!

Just the tip eh...?

Point for that, DP  ;)

(http://i.imgur.com/dai71Pm.jpg)

So obviously I wanted to draw twin sabers, but I wanted to draw to sabers that are tactically complementary beyond the normal "saber + shoto" combination. So i thought if we incorporated elements into the main saber to make it more offensive, such as a Bec de Corbin and hook, we could design something meant to not only attack, but pin and manipulate the movements of the opponent. To complement this, we have a small but very easy to wield shoto hilt, with finger rings and a flattened emitter to give it a similar purpose as a punch-dagger. Combine this with the flowing ribbons from the saber, the goal is to use the primary weapon to distract, wound, and immobilize the opponent, leaving them open to quick strikes from the shoto. Two predatory birds, working together On Corvid Wings.

This all being said, I'm probably going to step away from the Star Wars art for a bit, I've been in more of a horror/surrealist kick for my art lately. If people are interested might start a new thread for that, though I admit its not even tangentially related to SW.

I love the feel of this design pair. Stunning to look at, but also strategically meaningful. My kind of setup in that light, so I applaud the effort and ideology behind them as well.

I'm also a big fan of doing what one feels is fulfilling. So enjoy your chosen path, everything will still be here when you decide to return to it. (more likely than not...)

Im not leaving the forum or anything just redirecting my art to a new project for a couple weeks

More cowbell incoming.

I don't know how I missed this awesome drawing but this set looks fantastic!  From the organic lines of the hilt to the aggressive quillion and pommel, these weapons look FIERCE and DANGEROUS  :)

Oh, and I love the wrapped hilt; something about it reminds me of some of the manga/anime characters that I've read about/seen^^

Point!


/Anticipation  ;D

Glad you liked that pair! They were pretty fun to draw i gotta say. Also the Visions trailer has me all flavors of inspired for lightsabers right now, so the next designs are probably gonna be a bit more unconventional than my usual faire.

Sometimes when I'm bored I toy with TCCS' saber builder.

And sometimes this creates ideas.

I think art will be coming soon