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Title: "Daytime" saber blades?
Post by: Sir_Horus on June 02, 2019, 03:51:51 PM
While my first inclination is to always get my blades from UltraSabers, I was wondering if anyone had a good source that is known to work with UltraSabers hilts, for "daytime" blades.  I.E. Blades that are colored already.

There are times when I will need a pre-colored blade so that the blade color is known even when using the LED lights would be useless, like when one is outside in bright daylight.

Many thanks in advance...


Title: Re: "Daytime" saber blades?
Post by: Obese Wan Kenobese on June 02, 2019, 05:19:24 PM
The Custom Saber Shop.

Normally, we can't talk competitors for sabers, but this is about their compatible components like blades and MHS parts.

I'd recommend the 'enhanced' green and blue. They are lighter in ambient light, but really do enhance blue LEDs into the respective colors.

For red, just get red dayblades. The 'enhanced' red is pink.

Alternatively, someone came up with a method to make their own chaos color blades.
http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=41129.0 (http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=41129.0)

And I came up with putting color cellophane inside to make my own dayblades.
http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=31839.0 (http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=31839.0)

And, the search feature may bring up more discussions. http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?action=search (http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?action=search)


Title: Re: "Daytime" saber blades?
Post by: tx_tuff on June 02, 2019, 06:34:47 PM
Any 1 inch blade with fit US. Many companies make day blades, we can only suggest TCSS here. TCSS also sells the blade parts so you can put it together yourself. Much cheaper this way and not hard to do.

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Title: Re: "Daytime" saber blades?
Post by: S2mikey on June 10, 2019, 10:21:06 AM
Plenty of day blade choices out there for reasonable money.  I have a few that fit my Ultra Saber hilt just fine.


Title: Re: "Daytime" saber blades?
Post by: MandaloriansPride on June 11, 2019, 11:54:31 PM
Day blades are great, even in the dark. They give the blade a nice "Core" look.
Many of us have been asking for them for ages, maybe someday US will start doing them. Until then, there's a lot of choices out there - just can't mention them by name here. 


Title: Re: "Daytime" saber blades?
Post by: Ken at Sunrise on June 12, 2019, 12:58:44 PM
Another Day Blade question.

Question A) The above poster said the Day Blades even look great in the dark? Other than, now I'm stuck with this color; what does everything think of always using Day Blades? Do you miss that first Power-Up?  I was thinking of getting a Red, Blue and Photon Green. Then day or night I'm set?

Question B) I do like to duel with a friend of mine so we use a heavy grade blade. When considering Day Blades how much brightness do you loose for 1) the day blade itself and 2) from a mid-grade to heavy-grade.

Thank you for your thoughts.


Title: Re: "Daytime" saber blades?
Post by: Galef on February 11, 2020, 03:50:58 PM
I decided to perform some necromancy on this thread rather than start a new one as there are some good responses here already and this thread seems to be relatively recent compared to the many other Day Blade threads.

I just orders some Photon green thin-walled blades from TCSS. I plan on using them as day blades for my Tri-green staff, and eventually getting a Tri-Blue saber to really take advantage of that photonic affect.
But I have a few questions:

1) If I use a Tri-AS saber with a dark blue color filter, is it "close enough" to Tri-Blue to get the Photonic Green affect?
I ask because I also want to get a Purple Day blade, and I'd like to be able to use the same saber for both
Alternatively, how do you think a Purple blade would look with Tri-Blue? As that might be the best of both

2) For those of you that use day blades at night, just how much dimmer are they? Noticeably so, or is it a negligible difference worth getting the color saturation and "core" effect".
And do you always use a AS LED, or do you match the color of the blade?

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Title: Re: "Daytime" saber blades?
Post by: firehand10k on February 11, 2020, 05:39:57 PM
If you use the same color blade as you led it doesn't lose that much brightness. If you use contrasting or filtering colors you lose significantly. I use red TCSS blades in my Zweihander full time. It shows well in many lighting conditions. 40 inch main with 7.5 inch quillons.

(https://i.ibb.co/n8cN45n/20191212-103637.jpg) (https://ibb.co/x8jtwRf)



Title: Re: "Daytime" saber blades?
Post by: Galef on February 11, 2020, 05:50:16 PM
That's excellent, thanks. My sound saber is VA but I'm a bit let down by the color IRL. It's more pastel than I hoped, so using a purple day blade should get the saturation I want.
So would you say I'd get better results from a purple day blade with VA or a single LED AS? Or about the same brightness/saturation?

How would a Silver FoC work? I assume it will still be noticable even though it will show purple through the day blade.

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Title: Re: "Daytime" saber blades?
Post by: firehand10k on February 11, 2020, 06:00:55 PM
Actually purple is a notoriously difficult color. It can be challenging to find one that gives a deep enough tone while allowing light through in thick walled. If you want to try the TCSS version the tips are in the regular blade section but the tubes are in bargain basement. The thin walled work much better but won't hold up to dueling the way I do it. All of the parts for them are in the regular blade parts section.



Title: Re: "Daytime" saber blades?
Post by: Robyn_Goodfellow on February 11, 2020, 06:41:38 PM
If you use the same color blade as you led it doesn't lose that much brightness. If you use contrasting or filtering colors you lose significantly. I use red TCSS blades in my Zweihander full time. It shows well in many lighting conditions. 40 inch main with 7.5 inch quillons.

(https://i.ibb.co/n8cN45n/20191212-103637.jpg) (https://ibb.co/x8jtwRf)



Be still my beating heart!
That cross guard is beautiful


Title: Re: "Daytime" saber blades?
Post by: firehand10k on February 11, 2020, 07:05:13 PM
Be still my beating heart!
That cross guard is beautiful

Thanks. It still needs a bit more fine tuning but it is big and fun to fight with.  My favorite i own.  And looks just as good off with the day blades.

(https://i.ibb.co/DMW1Rq1/20200211-120321.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2MhFkbF)


Title: Re: "Daytime" saber blades?
Post by: Galef on February 11, 2020, 07:13:45 PM
Thanx again for the advice. Point inbound!

I will only get thin walled Day blades as I want these to be as bright as possible even in low light. I'll keep my HG ultra blades handy for dueling.
I intend to get a full 40" thin walled purple blade to cut a 32" and an 8" out of it. Couple my V5 Sentinel with sound in VA with my wife's V5 Dark Apprentice stunt in AS.
Long blade in the sound saber and the mini blade at the "pommel" end

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Title: Re: "Daytime" saber blades?
Post by: Greywalker83 on February 12, 2020, 01:24:23 AM
Like was said before we usually don’t talk about the other guys products. However, that being said I don’t see the harm in helping people find a product that US has yet to offer and I’m sure they’d understand. Like previously mentioned Tcss has some. You can also check out kyberlight. They’ve got day blades and some custom blades that look like katana, cutlasses and a couple other designs. Happy hunting though.


Title: Re: "Daytime" saber blades?
Post by: Infinit01 on February 12, 2020, 11:51:54 AM
Thanks. It still needs a bit more fine tuning but it is big and fun to fight with.  My favorite i own.  And looks just as good off with the day blades.

(https://i.ibb.co/DMW1Rq1/20200211-120321.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2MhFkbF)

What a beauty! I love the emitter that you used, firehand!!


Title: Re: "Daytime" saber blades?
Post by: firehand10k on February 12, 2020, 11:55:53 AM
Its the Dark Warglaive emitter but I drilled out the pin holes all the way through for added window highlights. I use the 4 claw screw mount holes as added blade retention since this is my HEAVY dueler.


Title: Re: "Daytime" saber blades?
Post by: Galef on February 18, 2020, 03:06:54 PM
So my purple blade arrived from TCSS and it makes my VA look much more like I wanted it to IRL. Very happy with it.

Next question: Has anyone tried using "off-color" LEDs rather than matching the day blade?  My oldest wants to save up for the Fallen with sound and wants it to have options for Blue, Yellow/Orange and Green, but there's absolutely no way we can afford the Emerald option.

So I think he'll want to get it in Tri-Silver and use color filters for the Yellow/Orange & Green and a thick-walled day blade for the Blue
I'm confident we can achieve the colors he wants that way.
But my other son usually wants Red but also wants some color variety. He is ok with no sound.  I was thinking of going the same route of Tri-Silver for his and getting a thick-walled Red blade, but I think there's a chance it might look a bit pinkish and/or too dim.

Then an idea popped into my brain: Tri-Orange + Red blade.  In theory, it should keep the brightness but still be very red (no pink at all), while still giving him an option to use a standard/HG blade to keep the Orange.  We may even be able to use color filters to edge it into a Greenish-Yellow (by block out some of the red light) if he wants

Can anyone confirm this theory? Is this a decent idea to have each saber with 2-3 color options on a limited budget?

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Title: Re: "Daytime" saber blades?
Post by: firehand10k on February 18, 2020, 04:36:38 PM
Your theories are sound and the combinations sound correct but with dayblades you will loose more brightness than through decent quality filters. You will also find that due to the limited shades available in dayblades you will have a harder time getting precise colors for some choices.

You seem to be having fun experimenting and doing well at finding results you like. I'd say just keep it up.


Title: Re: "Daytime" saber blades?
Post by: Galef on February 18, 2020, 04:58:10 PM
Your theories are sound and the combinations sound correct but with dayblades you will loose more brightness than through decent quality filters. You will also find that due to the limited shades available in dayblades you will have a harder time getting precise colors for some choices.

You seem to be having fun experimenting and doing well at finding results you like. I'd say just keep it up.
Thanx. This is certainly fun so far. I've always enjoyed color theory.
I've seen a few videos using Red blades with Orange LEDs. It comes out red and is fairly bright.
If Tri-Orange + Red blade is as bright or brighter than a single LED Red than it's a success in my book. And from the limited videos I've seen, it should be brighter.

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Title: Re: "Daytime" saber blades?
Post by: Robyn_Goodfellow on March 04, 2020, 12:11:45 AM
I’ve made a YouTube review of coloured day blades and special effects  blades BUT I’m not sure if I’d be breaking forum rules posting it as the day blade supplier also sells sabers and I don’t want to  upset anyone here or at Ultrasabers... maybe I can send a link to the video to a forum moderator to review for approval?

In the meantime I do have a photo of the special effect blade to give an example of what it looks like in my US Flamberge. I think that should be ok to post as there’s no info about ‘the other guys’ on there.

I frikken love that saber!

(http://i.imgur.com/EtbbRyS.jpg)


Title: Re: "Daytime" saber blades?
Post by: Galef on March 04, 2020, 12:22:40 AM
That's pretty sweet Robyn!  And agreed on the 'other guys'. I think the only one we can mention by name is TCSS as they are not direct competitors, but sell mostly US compatible accessories.  Which is where all my day blades are from

Speaking of, I now have enough day blades to do a video review, which I'll be posting on Friday.
We have Photon Green blades, Blue, Red and Purple. And I simply LOVE day blades. They really add that extra WOW to the already excellent craftsmanship of US

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Title: Re: "Daytime" saber blades?
Post by: Darth Andeddu on March 04, 2020, 02:58:13 AM
cool I'm going to check out the day blades for my wall display, rather than re-wire the hilts to accept a cord from a charger, and  then deal with the LED heat build up