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I've just heard that they are going to remake the Nicholas Cage/John Travolta/John Woo classic Face Off. Earlier this year they released a remake of comedy classic Dirty Rotten Scoundrels, this time with Ann Hathaway and Rebel Wilson (and apparently it was not good). This is without even mentioning all the Disney live action remakes that have been released.

So, my question to the group is this:

1) Which movie should NEVER be remade?
2) Which movie would you not mind if they remade?

*PLEASE NOTE* Try to be creative and not choose The Last Jedi. We all know how divisive that movie is and I'm sure people can come up with other choices.

Blazing saddles!

But totally P.C. for today's  snowflake culture.

Read that this weekend. That is a classic and should never have a remake.  I don't think any of the recent remakes should have been made but that may just be me.  To me, ANY Arnold Schwarzenegger, Disney, MCU, etc. should NOT have a remake.

I remember years ago watching a chat show and it had a well known director on (can't remember who), but I always remember something he said about remakes; either take something that wasn't well known to begin with or take something that wasn't very good and make it better.

Now, while they are considered a cult classics, I wouldn't mind seeing a remake of either The Last Starfighter (using today's gaming culture instead of arcade games) or They Live (with the intenet and the continued fascination with consumerism). I think both could do with being updated and could easily be remade into something really enjoyable and special.

Movies that should NEVER be remade: Back to the Future, Goodfellas, anything from Tarantino, The Lost Boys and Jaws (although every shark movie the has ever come out since Jaws has basically tried to recapture the majesty that is that movie and they always fail. As shark movies go, Jaws is perfection).

I was obviously joking about Blazing Saddles.

The last star fighter and They live!!! Great ideas. I don't think either of those movies would be harmed by an update for the current times. They live would be great.

Not necessarily a remake, but I'd like a sequel to Tron: Legacy. That movie got way too much flak.

Tron wasn't a remake perse but rather a sequel and I wanted the third installment but it bombed the US box office and in fact, it did better overseas so they place the third installment on hold, indefinitely or at least that's what the studios claim

Wasn't there supposed to be a remake if WarGames? That would be interesting in today's time.

I think they should remake Hot Dog... The Movie for all the current Teenagers.

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I would be totally down for a Tron:Legacy follow up.



For Last Starfighter I'd prefer a sequel maybe. You could still have a new protagonist, (maybe Lewis's kid?) through whom we find out what Alex and Maggie have been doing all these years. As for They Live, who're gonna find that's as much fun in the part as Roddy Piper?

It would be a cardinal sin for Disney to even consider touching the Emporer's New Groove ever again - its perfect, let it be perfect in peace.


That being said, I would love a remake of the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. I know it got panned bad but i loved it dammit! Would be great to see what could be incorporated with new effects.

The problem with remaking War Games is that the current events of the time period was critical to the plot. It wouldn't really have as much significance unless it was done as a period piece, just redone.

Just expand on the story universe. I remember a series on Netflix; Tron: Uprising. It was a prequel story to Legacy, with a Batman Beyond vibe. I loved it. Sadly it was short lived; maybe only 2 seasons. But wow.

As for my 2cents, the Alien trilogy should never be touched.

Speaking of Disney, I'd love a remake of The Black Hole. I remember loving the movie as a kid, but I think I was 8 the last time I saw it. Definitely left an impression though.

Either a sequel/reboot or a remake. Either would work. It's pretty much a no-brainer with gaming being so huge these days.

And as missed as Roddy Piper is, the movie would still work with the right actor cast. Could even have a cameo be Keith David.

I think I heard something about that. Maybe it's stuck in development hell.


There's a movie called "Hot Dog"? What's it about? (I'm assuming it's not about food).

I know Alien 3 gets a lot of flack. It's nowhere near as good as the first two, but isn't the dumpster fire some people believe it to be. But I agree, the first two should NEVER be touched.

I have always thought a remake of "The Wraith" would be cool.

Never heard of it. But after reading the synopsis on wikipedia it reminds me a lot of a story from a Twilight Zone comic I bought in the 90s. It also sounds like a Fast & Furious version of The Crow!  ;D

yeah it was an interesting movie back in the day, watched it recently and laughed  ;D some parts are you could say cheezy lol

I never got to see this film when it came out but I did own one of the 3D diorama cutout advert boards for the film. My folks knew the chief projectionist at my local cinema and I used to get a load of posters but this Wraith advertising was awesome.

And I agree the Aliens trilogy should be left well alone.

I wouldn't mind seeing  a remake of Dreamscape and also Gremlins.
I would also love a sequel to Beetlejuice! Kill Wynonna and give us the sequel.

So many great suggestions from other people! Thanks for starting this post Darth Knox. It's got me hoping someone from Hollywood sees it.

You're welcome. Although I may start a separate thread about sequels to help keep the discussion on topic.

NO! Gremlins must not be touched!

I remember all the reasons I enjoyed TheWraith when I was 14 but I also think MST3K would have a field day with it. Nearly every line is riffable . “A road block can’t stop something that can’t be stopped.” Or “I smell French fries but that don’t make no sense!”

Skank was a trip, I'm tweaking man  lol

The title is "Hot Dog... The Movie". So it's not just Hot Dog. It's the local guys at a sky resort vs the rich guys. Very teenage boy movie. Which is what I was when I seen it, over and over LOL. It's a comedy.

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I think the 1986 version of "Little Shop of Horrors" should never be re-made, because it far outstrips the 1960 version.  (Yes, I like my comedy-horror mashups to have a happy ending... so sue me!)

“This s#!ts got some kick!”

Also got a love Clint Howards character.

“It’s a wraith, man! A ghost! An evil spirit and it ain’t cool!”

Good News about back to the Future is Zemickis had it put in writing that no BTTF project could be done without his say so...and he has made it clear he would never allow a remake.



As for what movie should not be touched......  Labyrinth


What I would like to see a remake of.... The Running Man... but done closer to the book. 

I believe they filmed an alternate ending where Audrey 2 takes over the Earth, but changed it due to test audiences wanting a happy ending.

I heard the Zemickis deal also passes onto his children/estate, further proofing BttF after his death (cos you know some studios will just play the waiting game).

I agree, do not remake Labyrynth. K heard rumours they were thinking of doing a sequel to it though. If they did I think Tilda Swinton would be perfect as the Goblin King.

What happens in the book versipn of The Running Man?

No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!

Love it for the stand alone brilliance that it is.

WRONG! It should not be remade simply for the performances of Rick and Steve.
Because everyone being eaten by the plant wasn't a "happy ending"?

AWESOME

Preach.

Uh....we already agreed that nothing with Arnold gets remade.

There actually was an official sequel done in Manga form in Japan a few years ago..as well a Prequel comic book that finished up last month.  Tilda I think would be good if they decided to make a new Goblin Ruler.... or go Doctor Who with it and have Jareth Change form.  I always thought Lee Pace as Thranduil kind of had a Jareth vibe to him.




I never agreed to that....  There are many things Arnold did that were adapted from other sources and deserve (imo) a better adaptaion...no matter how much I may enjoy them.    As for the differences from the Novel (BTW  It was Written by Richard Bachman...which is the pseudonym of Stephen King) it does take place in a Dystopian Future but not as "advanced" as the film showed.   Richards is an impoverished peon who's daughter is sick and his wife has had to resort to prostitution.  He goes to the Government run game Network and gets chosen for The Running Man.   The rest is a quote from Wikipedia:

   "The contestant is declared an enemy of the state and released with a 12-hour head start before the Hunters, an elite team of Network-employed hitmen, are sent out to kill him. The contestant earns $100 per hour that he stays alive and avoids capture, an additional $100 for each law enforcement officer or Hunter he kills, and a grand prize of $1 billion if he survives for 30 days. Viewers can receive cash rewards for informing the Network of the runner's whereabouts. The runner is given $4,800 and a pocket video camera before he leaves the studio. He can travel anywhere in the world, and each day he must videotape two messages and mail them back to the studio for broadcasting. If he neglects to send the messages, he will be held in default of his Games contract and stop accumulating prize money, but will continue to be hunted indefinitely. Killian states that no contestant has survived long enough to claim the grand prize, nor does he expect anyone to ever do so. Richards simply hopes that he will last long enough to secure his family's future with his prize money."

      Much like the film he winds up being pretty good at evading the Hunters and meets a "resistance" of sorts.  It ends spectacularly but I highly doubt the ending could be done in today's climate. 

Interesting. I could get behind this IF they stuck to the book and not attempted to remake the OG.

Right, its less sci-fi more action-Suspense.  Total Recall was the same way, it was more of a direct remake of the ahnold film than then the book

Tilda has already played Bob Dylan in a movie. And she dressed up as David Bowie one Halloween (they were apparently good friends). She has that other worldly slightly androgynous quality about her that I think would be perfect for the Goblin King. If they cast her, I wouldn't even address her gender, as with the right costume and make-up you'd believe she was Jareth, just played by another actor.

This sounds very similar to an small independent film I saw years ago called Series 7: The Contenders https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series_7:_The_Contenders.

But Total Recall had the brilliant and satirical mind of Paul Verhoeven at the helm, who brought the equally amazing Robocop and Starship Troopers (and Showgirls to prove even great film makers have an off day  :D :D :D).

I think the recent remakes of Total Recall and Robocop prove to leave PV's movies alone. That includes Starship Troopers, that despite being made in 1997, still holds up. Even a lot of the CGI (which is weird when you consider The Phantom Menace came out 2 years later and looks dated as F when you rewatch it now).

Honestly a bit surprised no one has mentioned it yet. The Princess Bride. That movie should never be remade. Ever.

The Shawshank Redemption should never be remade.  It was close enough to Stephen King's short story to be an excellent story, and the performances by Tim Robbins and Morgan Freeman were superb!

It would be.........inconceivable!

I'm still amazed that it was considered a flop when it was first released. It only really got recognised as one of the greatest movies of all time when it hit the home video rental market.

Point for that, Darth Knox!  (Dark side, of course)

Counterpoint: David dressed up as her on the same Halloween. I think their androgyny actually add to their beauty. The first time I ever saw David Bowie, was the VHS cover of Labyrinth, and thought "WOW! She's kinda hot." My 8yo self was very confused when I saw the movie.

There is hope for you yet, young one. POINTS

Wholly agreed. And on the SK note, The Green Mile is also on the list.


Nightmare Before Christmas

QFT^^

Points for you gentlemen!

I saw the photo. They dressed as each other. Kindred spirits.

Definitely. The first time I saw Bowie was the music video for dancing in the street with Mick Jagger. I think I saw Labyrynth soon after and didn't realise it was the same guy. Fortunately, my university years opened exposed me to the wonder of his Ziggy Stardust days.

The first 3 Indiana Jones movies.

Correction, they are ONLY three Indiana Jones movies in existence. Officially. Fandom passed a law about this not so long ago.

Just had another thought: This Is Spinal Tap can/should never be remade. That being said, I wouldn't mind seeing a remake of Event Horizon, but with all the gore/horror sequences that the director was forced to cut left in this time.

Would like to see remakes of:

Ronin
Timecop

NOT see remakes of:

The Ten Commandments
13th Warrior
DragonSlayer
Outland

Phwew! <wipes brow>

Gonna have to veto this.

*NEW RULE*
Any movie mentioned can be vetoed, as long as it's seconded by someone else.

Seconded. Ronin is safe (and a bloody brilliant film it is too). Speaking of John Reno, Leon absolutely CANNOT be remade. Or True Romance.

Timecop would be a good remake. As they recently did a remake of Ben-Hur (which is awful as you'd imagine it was) I wouldn't put it past Hollywood to do a remake of The Ten Commandments.

Yes, which is why I was disappointed they chose to attempt to remake the Arnold version instead of directly adapting the original Story.





Point of Fact:  The Ten Commandments was itself a remake of the 1930s versions also directed by Cecil B. DeMille.   

Ronin? Thirded. That film is a masterpiece on so many levels.
Agreed. Leon and True Romance are not to be touched either. Can you imagine two other people doing the Walken/Hopper scene in True Romance? HA!!!!

I would like to see a remake of Highlander, with the right casting, tweak the story but keep the main gist of the immortals, beheading and gathering could be pretty epic, and done in a much more grisly way.

Even though it was directed by Tony Scott, it is very much a Tarantino movie. Very little of Tarantino's original script was changed for the movie, which was verg unusual in the early 90s.

NO!  Veto.

Speaking of the great Luc Besson, The Fifth Element, like the Ark of the Covenant, should only be touched at the risk of one's own life.

Ugh. Agreed. I foresee some politically correct steaming pile full of social reform agendas. "Let's make Moses a woman."

Well, they didn't do that with the Ben-Hur remake. It was just bad. Even Morgan Freeman in a dodgy dreadlock wig couldn't save it.

Agreed. It's so much fun. And kickass. And cheesy. And weird. And wonderful. And I love it. Definitely one of those movies that could be made in the 90s.

Topic aside briefly, love the new sig Logos!


That being said I agree. The Fifth Element is one of those where it would be fantastic or absolutely destroy the soul of the original. seconded.

Even despite some cinematic failures, this movie ranks high on my Love-It List. It's just timelessly awesome. Part of me wanted more films that expanded that movie-verse, but at the same time I'm scared that it would end up being too close to the FE, or worse ruining it. Like maybe a prequel that highlighted Dallas' service record. :-\

Thanks

Same here I always wanted to know more about the world and the creatures. I think now it’s too late, but I wouldn’t mind some books or graphic novels to flesh some things out more.

isn't it strange that a movie like Valerian and the City of 1000 Planets flopped and hasn't even managed cult status, and yet The Fifth Element has. I think the main differences between the two are T5E is fun and cheesy and doesn't take itself too seriously, while Valerian was so concerned with being visually spectacular and weird (like the comic) that it forgot to be fun and cheesy.

My next pick for a movie that could be remade may be controversial as I love the original and the tv multiple series it span-off: Stargate.
Don't get me wrong, like I said, I love the original movie and absolutely adore SG-1 and Atlantis. And even Universe had found its rhythm just before it got cancelled. But as the shows showed us, there is a lot of mythology there. And who doesn't love a good story surrounding Egyptian mythology?

I think enough time has gone by that a truly appreciative director could do something good with this idea. If I were doing it, I would put emphasis in copying the production style (don't try to improve), and focus on the story instead of pushing boundaries.

Ooohh. Tough call.

Second the veto!  As was said in a certain person's .signature file back when Highlander II: The Quickening was released...

Highlander: There can be only one.
Me, after seeing Highlander II:  There should have been only one! I want my money back!

^^^Yes. This! Although, I did like the Highlander tv series as it didn't contradict anything from the first movie. Plus some of the scene transitions in that movie are amazing. And of course, casting a Scotsman to play an Egyptian Spaniard in a movie set in Scotland. Genius! And the Queen soundtrack is hauntingly beautiful at times.

Same.  I felt the TV Series kind of served as a "reboot".  Better acting, choreography and expanded the lore.  Fun Fact:  The Creators of Highlander did not WANT to do a sequel...but the studio wanted one and leaned heavily on the production.  After the success of the TV series they were given more leeway with the third which is why it ignores part 2 entirely.  Honestly I Wouldn't be opposed to a Highlander Remake IF I knew only the effects, acting and choreography was going to be updated and the story would remain

That's too big an "IF" in my book.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_PVhhsELvA&app=desktop# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_PVhhsELvA&app=desktop#)

So began furthering the apprentice's training last night with Pitch Black, and thought..."Riddick Trilogy (soon to be quad ;D) can't be touched."

Riddick was so odd for me...like i know factually i watched them but i cant recall anything but Vin Diesel's voice, a lot of sand, and one specific line. Not to say it wasnt memorable it just felt like a weird fever dream. Should rewatch those movies.

So i went to suggest this and it turns out they actually *are* remaking this but ill say it anyway - Dune deserves a remake! The movie doesnt hold a candle to the book imo.

I have been disappointed by Dune, both the movie and the SyFy Channel mini-series, that I am filled with a mix of anticipation and dread regarding the upcoming remake.  The book is so good, and so detailed, I really don't see how they'll be able to make a movie worth watching and still not exceed the bladder capacity of movie audiences.

Yes you should. Yes they're a bit on the macho-cheesy side that we fell in love with in the 80s, but we wouldn't expect anything less from a Vin Diesel movie? I love them because I love a great anti-hero, and Riddick is exactly that.

Agreed. I've been told that the best one to date was the one from the 80s, and I felt that one barely scratched the book.

I really love Pitch Black found Chronicles of Riddick too drastic a shift in tone and storytelling. Riddick was better, although still not great. But Vin is great as the character.

That and the Director's cut completely undid the backstory of his eyes.

Major League

Remake?

NEVER

Sorry for not specifying.

Yea, for some reason I can't see that working

I wouldn't mind a Justice League remake. Either that or Snyder's version.

There is no Synder version. But a Justice League remake would be good. Maybe have a battle as amazing as the Gods/races of men/Amazonians/Green Lanterns vs Steppenwolf that we had as 1 min flashback.

Well technically the SnyderCut does exist. Snyder and Momoa have both confirmed it, and Momoa has watched it. Officially, it does not exist though.

Well if you count a version of the film nowhere near ready for release, with few if any special effects scenes, sound editing or colour grading added and a lot of greenscreen remaining, then yes, the Synder cut exists.

Yes, that is what people mean by the Snyder Cut.  According to Kevin Smith its about 3 hours long and is very rough.  But hard core DCEU fans want it released anyway

I know they are thinking of remaking this movie, but I'm hoping they don't, An American Werewolf in London.

*Edit* Just read that due to the allegations against Max Landis, his remake of this has been cancelled. And it's looking increasingly unlikely that any studios will want to pursue it, even with another writer/director attached. So, that's good news

Maybe I'm too much of a  movie purist but I don't count that as a "cut".

It is, for all intents and purposes, A Cut.  Generally Cut in this instance is used like "Draft" for writing projects.  The Snyder "Cut" would be the equivalent to a Rough Draft.  So, technically I guess it would be more accurate to call it the Snyder Rough Cut.

Unless it's good enough to be seen by mass audiences then it doesn't count. But that's just my own sensibilities.

Maybe you guys know something about it that I don't, but Zach Snyder has said that "it is finished". To me that sounds like everything, including VFX are done, and it is more than just a "rough cut". It is very possible that I am missing something though.

https://screenrant.com/justice-league-zack-snyder-cut-exists-confirmed/

Didn't they already do this as American Werewolf in Paris?

No. That was just a really really really bad sequel.

Ah

Need a couple of more "Really"s in there....


On the subject of Werewolf Films that should not be Remade.....  Dog Soldiers.



But Ginger Snaps maybe could use a remake....

They are supposedly working on a remake of Highlander and I’m really of two minds about it. Because part of me would just as soon they leave it alone. The original didn’t really open itself up for a sequel which is part of why the other films that followed were inherently awkward situations to begin with even before getting into stuff like Zeist. (Ugh).The TV series was probably the best thing that came out of any of that and they managed to muck that up to eventually.

On the other hand given hindsight you could build the story as something to be told over multiple films. You could elaborate on things the original film left mysterious which either could be good or turn out to be something where the explanation is much lamer than keeping the mystery on.  The sword battles could be much improved and other Immortals besides Conner and the Kurgan could be fleshed out. (Maybe even borrow some ideas from the tv series like Amanda or The Watchers).

You also wouldn’t have the Queen soundtrack or Michael Kamen’s score which are so much a part of the identity of Highlander for me.  Also who would make a good Ramirez? I can’t think of anybody who could bring the proper charm to that role.

Highlander has such a cult following remaking it, I think, would be a Mistake.  I would rather a continuation to get the bad taste of The Source out of my mouth. 

GODDAMN IT!!! There are talks of remaking The Princess Bride. Did somebody forget to forward this discussion onto Hollywood?

https://youtu.be/pGejqzfLn3I

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GODDAMN IT!!! What the frell is wrong with these damn Millennials thinking they can improve perfection? We don't need CGI. We don't need modern actors. We DON'T need socially progressive themes. We DON'T need throwbacks to an original. WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER WEAK ASS REMAKE. We need the original to be left alone in all its greatness.

We need to start a boycott of this film. Tell your friends and families to not see this. Let Hollywood know we're tired of lame redoes.

Nope. Just nope. Maybe with enough outrage, we can get them to not make it. Haven't watched the video yet, but I will in a little bit.

To be fair, I think I the people talking about it aren't millennial, which only makes it worse. They are old enough to know better. Plus, there's no evidence that a remake would feature any of the stuff you mentioned.

That being said, I agree 1000% with your sentiment. The best way to send a message to Hollywood is to not go see these movies. Hollywood is a business and despite online outrage or petitions, the only thing that will make them think twice about stuff like this is losing money at the box office.

If enough remakes of beloved classics fail at the box office, the studios won't want to risk their bottom line or their bonuses.

Besides, who the hell out of today's actors could match Cary Elwes, Wallace Shawn or Andre the Giant? Inconceivable indeed.

There is a staggering high probability that what I listed will be included. Otherwise why, WHY would they want to remake it.


That being said, I agree 1000% with your sentiment. The best way to send a message to Hollywood is to not go see these movies. Hollywood is a business and despite online outrage or petitions, the only thing that will make them think twice about stuff like this is losing money at the box office.

If enough remakes of beloved classics fail at the box office, the studios won't want to risk their bottom line or their bonuses.

Besides, who the hell out of today's actors could match Cary Elwes, Wallace Shawn or Andre the Giant? Inconceivable indeed.
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EXACTLY. That movie MADE most of the main cast. QUIT TRYING TO frellING REMAKE THE 80s.

Because money. Hollywood loves money without having to be original.

Yeah I saw that on Facebook shortly after we were talking about it. Rarely do I care enough to boycott a movie but this one I am. I won’t watch it ever. First one is perfect to me.

Same thing with Ghostbusters. I will never watch that abortion of a remake. But this remake needs to never happen. And WE need to make sure that this sentiment is heard.

I got no foreshadowing on IMDB. They usually having what's in the works or plans for upcoming stuff.

Mainly because it seems as if this was an offhand comment by some big wig.  Apparently there is no one on board with this.  Even Cary Elwes even weighed in on it as a negative

The funny thing is, my Mom told me about this asinine thought process in an email (along with the Twitter outrage that responded to it), and I had to tell her that we had been discussing that this is one that should NEVER be remade earlier this week.

Idiots.  Absolute idiots.

It's fake. Not going to happen. At least not yet thankfully.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgDwU4sKMdU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgDwU4sKMdU)

Only about the first minute of the video, but he breaks it down.

Is this guy reliable?  I sure hope so.

Yes. He recently made a mistake (very rare for him), and apologized and promised to make sure he always checks and finds reliable sources. He only says things are true if they are confirmed by the big heads of studios etc. Pretty much everything else is rumors.

EDIT: I've only been following him for a couple weeks, he likes to have fun on his channel, but his info is good.

<siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh> Oh thank God.

Amen, brother!  Amen!

I just watched Campea's video, and I've gotta say, he makes a good point. Does that mean I'd be okay with a remake? Heck no. I do not want one at all, but I don't know that I can say "IT SHOULDN'T EVEN BE CONSIDERED!!". But at least for now, it is not real.

Then I'll say it: IT SHOULD NEVER EVEN BEEN CONSIDERED!!


As one who can be considered potential to make griping about movies a pastime due to the frequency that I am picking apart short comings and oopses, for me to classify a movie as perfect says something. And the Princess Bride is perfect. I have watched it to the point of verbatim, and I can't recall any mistakes.

It was completely unnecessary, couldn't agree with you more Logos.  I saw the 1984 original in the theater and had one of the best moviegoing experiences of my young life.  For the remake, I waited and saw it on cable and from what little I can remember about it is that it was two hours of my life that I couldn't get back.  I mean it was woefully, tragically bad.

Again: absolutely unnecessary remake

While I fully appreciate Campea's opinion, I am of the firm belief that there are plenty of movies out there that had a good premise bit were poorly made/executed. There are also a lot of movies with good premises that just aren't well known. Why noy remake one of those?

But as Taegin points out, it was just an offhand discussion that was had, so hopefully nothing will come of it.

I wouldn't mind a remake of Blood Sport. Don't get me wrong, I love Van Damme and Blood Sport is one of his best. But martial arts fight choreography has come so far since that movie came out. Imagine a similar premise (martial artists from around the world) but with the guys from The Raid, amd Tony Jaa. Mayeb even throw in Donnie Yen for good measure because he's such a badass.

The problem with redoing Bloodsport is that it is (allegedly) a true story.  You'd have to get Frank Dux to sign off on it..doubt he'd do it.  But if they were to do it I would say Ray Park in the title role.

Now reports sre coming through about a remake of The Craft.
For the record, I feel this is wrong and a very bad idea. The Craft is a great movie already. Leave it be.

https://www.ihorror.com/the-craft-reboot-officially-announces-its-four-leads/ (https://www.ihorror.com/the-craft-reboot-officially-announces-its-four-leads/)


Lose the Frank Dux part and focus more on the tournament. The Frank Dux part was the cheesy/boring part of the original anyway. And they were "creative with the truth" for most his story anyway.

I was too young to see in theaters. Had to wait for VHS. BUT I was young enough that the gargoyles utterly scared the living frell outta me. Even though the effects for the day were outstanding, it wasn't about showing off what they could do.....I don't think. It was about making a horror comedy.

Ghosts from the OG: scary (even Slimer)

Ghosts from TRGB (animated series): had there moments (i.e. the Bogeyman)

Ghosts from hacky remake: cartoon-y

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I was having a discussion mast night with my to-be step-dad about the true horrors of the governments ability to monitor us, and got to thinking.....

I wouldn't mind a remake of Enemy of the State. Don't get me wrong, it was an excellent film. However, considering the post 9/11 age we live in, I feel that this movie could be taken to all new levels techno-terror.

Before I attempt to get the threas back on track, I will say this; the main problem the Ghostbusters remake had was the four characters all wanted to be the Venkman. No-one wanted to be the Egon. It was the differing personalities and how they reacted to the ghosts that makes the original so enduring and endearing. And, while the CGI was cartoony and the plot nonsensical, at it's core the characters are what made it flop hard.

And now back to the main topic: I actually wouldn't mind seeing a remake of The Wizard of Oz. Practical make-up for Scarecrow, Tin Man and The Cowardly Lion. But I think a visionary director could do wonders with that story with modern cinematic techniques.

And before anyone says anything, the Judy Garland version is itself a remake.

You probably could do a good remake of Wizard Of Oz but I bet Hollywood would probably give it to Tim Burton who would use it to dress up Johnny Depp as the Scarecrow and make him the protagonist.

Funnily enough, those fabulous people at What Culture discuss which 90s movie should be remade. I like the choices.

https://youtu.be/kopsM8leBkQ

If it was Edward Scissorhands/Beetlejuice wra Tim Bueton then I would have no problem. But it would probably end up Alice/Wonka era Burton which is awful. And keep Depp away from it.

Things like Wizard of Oz I can get behind since they were pre-existing stories (books, comics etc) that were adapted into film.  If they attempted a new adaptation instead of copying the Film (IE The Ruby Slippers which were created for the Film...in the book they are Silver).



By the Force The Bogeyman from the animated series was pure nightmare fuel... The Kriffing Voice they gave him....

Ironically he was voiced by the same guy who did Ray and Slimer. The one and only Frank Welker.


Ok, back to remakes do or don't.

Exactly.  I’m not sure who out there would be able to give a Wizard Of Oz film the kind of magic it would need.

I could.

Back on track again.

No remake of ANY John Wayne Western. Period.

Shouldn't touch his WWII movies either. I can't imagine any current actor who could pull off John Waynes' screen presence.

The original Craft was filmed in my old high school's band room. 

I'm really sick and tired of all these remakes. 

There's also talks of a New Jack City reboot which I will not watch since the original with Ice-T will be the only good one

Too late. True Grit has already been done.

Not really.  True Grit was a novel before it was a John Wayne film so the 2010 Coen Bros. Version was just another adaptation of said novel, especially since it was truer to the source material than the 1969 film. 

Agreed. To me, if it's based on a novel or a comic series, another movie wouldn't be a reboot from the first film but another movie based on the novel or comic.

Unless they copy ideas directly from the previous adaptation.  Such as Total Recall with Colin Farrel.  It attempted to straight remake the Arnold film instead of adapting the story

And failed. I liked the going to Mars bit.

Im not gonna say it outright failed but for me they are two very different movies. One is a pretty traditional cyberpunk "man vs corporation" type deal where the original felt more scifi than cyberpunk and for me the corporate war was more of a background to play with questions like are you more than just your memories? I liked the old more to be sure, but no particular hate on the remake

For me the only redeeming factor for the Remake was I got to look at Kate Beckinsale


The Seven Samurai should never be remade....

I'll have to see it again.

Seven Samurai has been remade (The Magnificent Seven).

I agree with you about the Total Recall remake. Kate Beckinsale is always a win. Away from that it was a failure in every other aspect (except the CGI was pretty good).

No Mars. No holographic double. No mutants. Yes, the Arnie version is a loose adaptation of the novel, but the changes make it it's own enjoyable film. Of course, as always, it's all subjective.

Wouldnt get your hopes up terribly high; try to just enjoy it as kind of an average action flick

I consider the western films base off Samurai Films (which there is a lot ) Re-Imaginings rather than remakes

Faur enough. But it's a well known fact that Magnificent Seven is a remake of Seven Samurai, just replacing samurai with cowboys. But, if you're going to remake a classic (and one that is generally considered to be one of the greatest movies ever made) you'd have to make changes to avoid direct comparisons.

That is what, to me, makes it a re imagining instead of a remake.  Same with The Man with No Name Trilogy ( A Fistful of Dollars (1964), For a Few Dollars More (1965), and The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (1966)..was a re imagining of Yojimbo....which is another film that shouldnt be remade.  There are some awesome Japanese Actors out there but Toshiro Mifune was one in a million.

Technically, this has been redone.....twice. The first was in the double Western adaption (Western in movie genre, and Western in geographic region of origin) The Magnificent 7. {already covered} The other redo was in the anime series Samurai 7. It's kind of a steampunky feudal Japan, where the bandits sacrificed there physical bodies for the power of being giant robots.

If I'm not mistaken,

Fun Fact #1: In Ready Player One, the avatar of Daito actually uses the image of Mifune's face in Seven Samurai.
Fun Fact #2: The same character's real world (in movie) name is Toshiro.

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Like with the Magnificent 7...I consider the anime a Re-Imagining.  A Remake would be literally making the same movie (setting, time period, characters) but usually adding or taking away some element that makes it a lesser film.  Once you change the settings and time period its becomes a reimagining.  With the Magnificent 7 making them Gunslingers does change some the character Dynamic than that of Ronin Samurai.  Just the Way I see it. 

You are correct. I like him in Yojimbo, Throne of Blood, Samurai Assassin, Samurai I: Musashi Miyamoto, These Foolish Times I and II to name a few

Yojimbo is by far my favorite...Often think of the What if he had accepted the Obi-Wan role

Then Ben v. Vader would have been waaaayyyy different.

It's my favorite, I often wonder that too

IKR.  There is a documentary about Mifune on Netflix and apparently he was such an aggressive/powerful fighter that the Stunt men did not want to work with him.  He was actually trained in Kenjutsu.




Harry and the Hendersons I don't think should be remade

IDK. I think we could have some fun with that. ::)

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I would be down for a new Sasquatch focused live action.... Just not a Harry and the Hendersons remake.   You know...I take that back.  Make it a Netflix Series.