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Title: will ray become a sith
Post by: B-706 on February 01, 2021, 02:12:06 PM
in the rise of skywalker, the emperor asks ray to kill him, and she does.


Title: Re: will ray become a sith
Post by: Hulk10 on February 04, 2021, 07:48:38 PM
That seems unlikely as she has faced the Dark Side and won.


Title: Re: will ray become a sith
Post by: Darth Logos on May 05, 2021, 12:49:44 PM
Despite my hatred of the character, it is more likely that she will evolve along the path of the Je'dai; with a balance of light and dark.


Title: Re: will ray become a sith
Post by: Darth Tepes on May 05, 2021, 01:52:42 PM
As I understood it (still actually haven't watched the "film") if she were to kill Grandpalpy it would have given him his "in" to take over her body.  So she would really have no choice.


Title: Re: will ray become a sith
Post by: Darth Logos on May 06, 2021, 02:28:14 AM
As I understood it (still actually haven't watched the "film") if she were to kill Grandpalpy it would have given him his "in" to take over her body.  So she would really have no choice.
Despite being the capstone of one of, if not THE shelltiest SW stories of all time, it's still worth at least a single viewing to give yourself some closure. Also, no. Rey didn't kill him. She defended against his attack by reflecting it back upon him. He killed himself, just as he messed himself up in ROTS.


Title: Re: Re: will ray become a sith
Post by: Darth Tepes on May 06, 2021, 02:46:06 AM
Despite being the capstone of one of, if not THE shelltiest SW stories of all time, it's still worth at least a single viewing to give yourself some closure. Also, no. Rey didn't kill him. She defended against his attack by reflecting it back upon him. He killed himself, just as he messed himself up in ROTS.
Oh I know what happened...I've watched the clips.  It was infuriating..... But I meant HAD she struck him down herself he would have used that anger as a conduit to enter her mind

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Title: Re: Re: will ray become a sith
Post by: DarthRondoudou on May 06, 2021, 10:53:52 AM
Oh I know what happened...I've watched the clips.  It was infuriating..... But I meant HAD she struck him down herself he would have used that anger as a conduit to enter her mind

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What if she had striked him down lovingly ?


Title: Re: Re: will ray become a sith
Post by: Darth Tepes on May 06, 2021, 10:59:09 AM
What if she had striked him down lovingly ?

You Kid but that could have been a better (imo) way for it all to go down.  Let me set the scene:

Grandpappy is kicking Rey and Kylo's asses.  The whole "strike me down" dialogue happens.  Rey gets smacked away...Kylo jumps in gets pinned down with lightening.  Rey in desperation throws jumps and cuts Palpy down...not in anger...but in defense of someone else.  Boom....Parallel to ROTJ, Rey has a heroic moment and Palpy gets defeated in everyway.


Title: Re: Re: will ray become a sith
Post by: PsychoSith on May 06, 2021, 03:05:01 PM
You Kid but that could have been a better (imo) way for it all to go down.  Let me set the scene:

Grandpappy is kicking Rey and Kylo's asses.  The whole "strike me down" dialogue happens.  Rey gets smacked away...Kylo jumps in gets pinned down with lightening.  Rey in desperation throws jumps and cuts Palpy down...not in anger...but in defense of someone else.  Boom....Parallel to ROTJ, Rey has a heroic moment and Palpy gets defeated in everyway.

I wanna poke my head in to say I, who does actually like the movie despite its' flaws; I also really like this idea. -1 for Tepes


Title: Re: Re: will ray become a sith
Post by: Beeblebrox on May 06, 2021, 04:28:24 PM
You Kid but that could have been a better (imo) way for it all to go down.  Let me set the scene:

Grandpappy is kicking Rey and Kylo's asses.  The whole "strike me down" dialogue happens.  Rey gets smacked away...Kylo jumps in gets pinned down with lightening.  Rey in desperation throws jumps and cuts Palpy down...not in anger...but in defense of someone else.  Boom....Parallel to ROTJ, Rey has a heroic moment and Palpy gets defeated in everyway.
I wanna poke my head in to say I, who does actually like the movie despite its' flaws; I also really like this idea. -1 for Tepes
I found the movie offensive personally but yeah… -1 to Tepes for this idea. Not only would it have been better, it would have actually been bad ass.


Title: Re: will ray become a sith
Post by: janx on May 06, 2021, 05:08:58 PM
That seems unlikely as she has faced the Dark Side and won.

This.  Also, Daisy Ridley says she's done with SW. So pretty much, a no.



Title: Re: Re: will ray become a sith
Post by: DarthRondoudou on May 06, 2021, 06:00:24 PM
You Kid but that could have been a better (imo) way for it all to go down.  Let me set the scene:

Grandpappy is kicking Rey and Kylo's asses.  The whole "strike me down" dialogue happens.  Rey gets smacked away...Kylo jumps in gets pinned down with lightening.  Rey in desperation throws jumps and cuts Palpy down...not in anger...but in defense of someone else.  Boom....Parallel to ROTJ, Rey has a heroic moment and Palpy gets defeated in everyway.
I was, for a minute I was afraid you'd take this seriously ^^'
I was going for something even cheesier. She stabs him in the gut, tears running down her cheeks as she whispers "I love you grand daddy"...


Title: Re: Re: will ray become a sith
Post by: PsychoSith on May 06, 2021, 06:10:37 PM
I was, for a minute I was afraid you'd take this seriously ^^'
I was going for something even cheesier. She stabs him in the gut, tears running down her cheeks as she whispers "I love you grand daddy"...

Stupid and silly? Yes?

But I LIKE to analyze stupid and silly s im gonna go all-in and say that since LOVE is a PASSION there is a chance, however small, that gran daddy Palpy would become grand-diddy Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeev Palpatine


Title: Re: will ray become a sith
Post by: the Sith Order on July 15, 2021, 03:34:58 AM
The Original Jedi Order is the Sith Order. Sith means Healer. There are infinite Jedi Orders and the Sith created the Jedi. Look within. Ray is a Skywalker and Palpetine, married to Ben Solo, they are part of a massive array of Jedi Orders, so yes, they are fully Sith as well, with a complete knowledge and Love of the Force.


Title: Re: will ray become a sith
Post by: DarthRondoudou on November 11, 2021, 01:04:45 PM
That guy was waaaaaaaaaaaaay high. to the point where I wondered if we actually watched the same movies xD


Title: Re: will ray become a sith
Post by: Lord Vaalic on September 12, 2023, 08:13:13 PM
This.  Also, Daisy Ridley says she's done with SW. So pretty much, a no.



Appears she is coming back for another movie


Title: Re: will ray become a sith
Post by: mrg149 on September 13, 2023, 02:14:09 AM
my reply…two words:

who cares?


Title: Re: will ray become a sith
Post by: TheDutchman on September 14, 2023, 06:16:43 PM
One of my cousins and I had a brainstorm/discussion way back when TFA came out that an interesting twist would be Kylo being redeemed and Rey falling to the Dark Side (indeed, I was thinking that might be the case in TLJ as I was watching it.  Yea gods was I wrong...).  Instead we got...well, we KNOW all about the Sequel Trilogy... :P  Which leads me to:

my reply…two words:

who cares?
Unfortunately, this seems to be the general consensus (can't say that I blame anyone with this opinion).


Title: Re: will ray become a sith
Post by: ThreadJack on September 24, 2023, 04:57:31 PM
I care...you never know it might be okay.


Title: Re: will ray become a sith
Post by: scifidude79 on September 24, 2023, 10:52:52 PM
I've actually known a few people who say they prefer the sequel trilogy to the older films, so I'd wager that a number of people care. I'd definitely watch a new movie with Rey. The Rise of Skywalker really left me with a sense that, while it was a conclusion to that story, there is still much more to be told. I'd like to see Finn come back and get some Jedi training too. I think John Boyega's feelings on the matter have softened a bit over the past couple years, so who knows what's possible?

One thing I'd like them to do moving forward is stop trying to rely on legacy characters. I don't think shoehorning in older characters to try to do fan service to longtime fans is doing them any favors, and I say that as a longtime fan. Stick with the established younger cast of characters, but give us some fresh supporting characters and villains. Just my thoughts.


Title: Re: will ray become a sith
Post by: TheDutchman on September 25, 2023, 06:33:55 PM
I've actually known a few people who say they prefer the sequel trilogy to the older films, so I'd wager that a number of people care. I'd definitely watch a new movie with Rey. The Rise of Skywalker really left me with a sense that, while it was a conclusion to that story, there is still much more to be told. I'd like to see Finn come back and get some Jedi training too. I think John Boyega's feelings on the matter have softened a bit over the past couple years, so who knows what's possible?

[size=15pt]One thing I'd like them to do moving forward is stop trying to rely on legacy characters[/size]. I don't think shoehorning in older characters to try to do fan service to longtime fans is doing them any favors, and I say that as a longtime fan. Stick with the established younger cast of characters, but give us some fresh supporting characters and villains. Just my thoughts.
THIS^^

One of the aspects of SWTOR I loved so much is that it expanded upon the greater galaxy without having to directly tie it into the OT.  Instead, it expands the mythos honoring Lucas' original story while presenting some excellent narratives, characters, and worldbuilding.

I care...you never know it might be okay.

/sigh  TJ has a point: if it is done RIGHT, I believe that more SW movies with Rey as the prime protagonist would be enjoyable (I like SFD's ideas concerning Finn, who was criminally misused throughout the ST).  Case in point: several episodes of "The Mandalorian" are excellent stories that stand strong by themselves without needing to "remind" the viewer "LUK, UR WACHING STAR WARS"

Time will tell^^


Title: Re: will ray become a sith
Post by: Lord_S_Gray on September 26, 2023, 12:13:34 AM
I doubt Rey will become a Sith, but I'd like to see her run into the same issues Luke found rebuilidng an Order, maybe dive into the struggles of working out an 'orthodoxy' keeping to the Light against the necessity of 'dark' actions etc. possibly facing her own splinter group of students who disagree with her, and working out the Jedi's place in a galaxy that has forgotten them, perhaps with a Republic that views her with suspicion s a Cult leader. Some dynamics like that could make for an interesting challenge, perhaps not even an overly action oriented movie but still engaging.

As always there is potential, but we've been burned before....


Title: Re: will ray become a sith
Post by: ThreadJack on October 05, 2023, 11:47:58 PM
I would definitely like to see her endeavor to avoid the mistakes of both the Old Jedi Order, and Luke. I think her aiming for something closer to the High Republic order, where the order is still squarely in the light, but it's members are free to play around and find their own path and connection to the Force, rather than all being cookie cutter like the prequels era Jedi were.


Title: Re: will ray become a sith
Post by: scifidude79 on October 06, 2023, 03:21:02 PM
There's a lot of indications of the Jedi Order being broken by the time of the movies. They didn't sense the Sith, which was a bad thing. They didn't take Qui-Gon's warnings seriously. They were too embroiled in politics of the Republic. There were a lot of mistakes made, those are just some of the worst ones. In a lot of ways, Qui-Gon represented the Jedi more as they were supposed to be, but the order had changed so much that he was considered a rogue. He tried to impart some of those teachings on Obi-Wan, but Obi-Wan clearly preferred the teachings of the broken Jedi Order. Being a product of two Jedi from that failed version of the Order, Luke never really stood a chance to do a better job. He even said it was time for the Jedi to die. He didn't mean there should never be Jedi again, but he felt that a better Order with better teachings should come out of the ashes.

Rey, on the other hand, had hardly any training. Unlike Luke, she read the sacred texts of the Jedi, meaning she had insights into the original order. I don't think Rey will become a Sith, she's too pure for that, nor will she be a Jedi in the sense of the movie era Order. I see her starting a new order based on better teachings as well as some of her own insights. In a way, she's starting fresh, as the original Force sensitive beings who founded the Jedi Order would have done.


Title: Re: will ray become a sith
Post by: DarthRondoudou on October 13, 2023, 12:48:03 PM
my reply…two words:

who cares?
Have some points xD


Title: Re: will ray become a sith
Post by: DarthRondoudou on October 13, 2023, 12:50:40 PM
I care...you never know it might be okay.
It might. I don't have a problem with the actress. I have problems with the writers and producers, and directors. A trilogy with no coherent stories, no guide line, no vision is more a trollogy than a real cohesive story. So yeah, they can keep the character and the actress. If they get rid of Ruin. But the damage is done. those films ruined the follow up. So I don't really care about what they can do in that era anymore.


Title: Re: will ray become a sith
Post by: scifidude79 on October 14, 2023, 02:55:07 PM
A trilogy with no coherent stories, no guide line, no vision is more a trollogy than a real cohesive story.

It's funny because the original trilogy didn't have a guide line or an overall vision at first either. Though, George Lucas had vision. He did have plans for a movie if the first one was a flop, but it was nothing too concrete. However, once the first movie was a smash hit, he came up with a more cohesive outline for the second and third films. But, that's the difference between George Lucas and the people who bought the franchise. He knew how to capitalize on the success of the first film. And you can't even say it was because they changed writers and directors for The Last Jedi, because different people wrote the screenplays and three different directors were assigned to the OT movies. But, they didn't have anyone like George overseeing the whole project, they let the individuals making the sequel trilogy do their own thing. That's not how you do a series that's as interwoven as the Star Wars trilogies. I like the films, but I can see the shortcomings due to how they were made.


Title: Re: will ray become a sith
Post by: mrg149 on October 17, 2023, 01:59:39 AM
It might. I don't have a problem with the actress. I have problems with the writers and producers, and directors. A trilogy with no coherent stories, no guide line, no vision is more a trollogy than a real cohesive story. So yeah, they can keep the character and the actress. If they get rid of Ruin. But the damage is done. those films ruined the follow up. So I don't really care about what they can do in that era anymore.
Points back at ya…My thoughts exactly!!