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Title: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: JoleeBindo on February 18, 2021, 12:54:45 AM
Having tried sabers from the others guys, I'm now an avid US fan.  I've seen really happy reviews of Mystery Box buyers, so decided to take a gamble and bought one of the $75 ones.  I will be posting updates!


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: DarthProdigal on February 18, 2021, 03:34:14 AM
That's great, I pray the Force is with you in this endeavor! If you got another consular I'd laugh my self to death though... I mean the odds of that. Heck I can't even remember which hilts are available for mystery boxes off the top of my head.


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: scifidude79 on February 18, 2021, 04:36:11 AM
Sweet. I can't wait to see what you get. I've never done the Mystery Box thing myself, just some Grab Bags. It's kind of fun ordering something that you don't know what it will be. :)


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: DarthRondoudou on February 18, 2021, 08:31:47 AM
I already tried my luck with a sound MB, got a saber I would have ordered eventually. I don't think I'll try it again ^^'


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: JoleeBindo on February 18, 2021, 02:16:43 PM
*shrugs* Half the fun of this is the Mystery.  The other part is the fact I get a cool toy in a box.

I'll be happy with whatever ships, and if I don't like it, I'll just figure out how to customize it.

DarthProdigal, that would be hilarious.  I don't think I could dual wield Consular very well.  That's a big chonkin' hilt.  I could do it, but I'd have to deduct -5 per strike for offhand with a longsword.....(showing my age there...)





Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: DarthProdigal on February 18, 2021, 10:26:03 PM
DarthProdigal, that would be hilarious.  I don't think I could dual wield Consular very well.  That's a big chonkin' hilt.  I could do it, but I'd have to deduct -5 per strike for offhand with a longsword.....(showing my age there...)

Nah, I'm sure you've leveled up significantly in that duration... You must be able to offset it by now with accumulated points, or unlock a skill to counter balance it. You're clever, if you have been waiting this long saving your level ups for a "time of dire need" you'll be fine unboxing a second one. Hit pause and break that stat list to smithereens. Because I know you didn't have auto-level turned on, surely not...


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: JoleeBindo on February 19, 2021, 03:27:34 AM
Nah, I'm sure you've leveled up significantly in that duration... You must be able to offset it by now with accumulated points, or unlock a skill to counter balance it. You're clever, if you have been waiting this long saving your level ups for a "time of dire need" you'll be fine unboxing a second one. Hit pause and break that stat list to smithereens. Because I know you didn't have auto-level turned on, surely not...

*looks innocent*

(https://i.imgur.com/Mi2CCLp.png)


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: scifidude79 on February 19, 2021, 04:09:09 AM
I already tried my luck with a sound MB, got a saber I would have ordered eventually. I don't think I'll try it again ^^'

Yeah, but the sabers in the box usually cost less than you pay if you go into the store and buy an identical setup. So, you saved money. :)


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: JoleeBindo on February 19, 2021, 04:35:35 AM
Yeah, but the sabers in the box usually cost less than you pay if you go into the store and buy an identical setup. So, you saved money. :)

I am nothing but hopeful that it will be something epic.


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: DarthRondoudou on February 19, 2021, 04:51:18 AM
Yeah, but the sabers in the box usually cost less than you pay if you go into the store and buy an identical setup. So, you saved money. :)
I did! And I was sooooo happy with the hilt I got. But there's not too many hilts I like left... So if I order more MB I probably won't get anything I like ^^'


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: JoleeBindo on February 19, 2021, 09:32:14 PM
ORDER MARKED COMPLETED.  I AM SO FREAKING EXCITED.


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: Jedi_Phoenix on February 19, 2021, 09:35:53 PM
ORDER MARKED COMPLETED.  I AM SO FREAKING EXCITED.

Congrats!  Looks like the wheels of progress are starting to roll forward once again down there.


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: DarthProdigal on February 20, 2021, 12:43:30 AM
ORDER MARKED COMPLETED.  I AM SO FREAKING EXCITED.

A lightsaber forged in chaos x2. Doomsday weapon on the way! Interesting to see what you'll get, all kidding aside.


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: JoleeBindo on February 20, 2021, 01:13:47 AM
I like that the Universe (Force) is choosing this one for me.  Whatever this saber is, it will be the center of customization and creative focus.  Old Uncle Jolee likes his weaponry.....

Oh, and Fedex says it will be here Monday.


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: Jedi_Phoenix on February 20, 2021, 02:51:45 AM
I like that the Universe (Force) is choosing this one for me.  Whatever this saber is, it will be the center of customization and creative focus.  Old Uncle Jolee likes his weaponry.....

Oh, and Fedex says it will be here Monday.

Slightly jealous; as of now I'm being told Wednesday for mine.    :D


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: scifidude79 on February 20, 2021, 02:52:52 AM
I am nothing but hopeful that it will be something epic.

I hope you do. I haven't looked at any pulls recently, but I know some people were getting some crazy stuff in Mystery Boxes when they first started selling them. I know you can do wiring, so would you prefer a lower end hilt with sound or a higher end stunt?


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: JoleeBindo on February 23, 2021, 12:24:05 AM
Honestly, a higher end stunt.  I have a lower end hilt with sound, and an upper end stunt, and I still prefer the upper end stunt.


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: JoleeBindo on February 23, 2021, 12:43:22 AM
Checked tracking, it was still in Houston yesterday, so am thinking maybe tomorrow?


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: scifidude79 on February 23, 2021, 12:54:12 AM
I hope you get it tomorrow. FedEx can be flaky sometimes. I've had packages go "off the radar" for 3 days on what should have been an hour drive.  ::)  (it happened several times, staring long before COVID)  I hope that doesn't happen to you.

Honestly, a higher end stunt.  I have a lower end hilt with sound, and an upper end stunt, and I still prefer the upper end stunt.

I agree. Sound can always be added later.



Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: JoleeBindo on February 23, 2021, 12:58:53 AM
I hope you get it tomorrow. FedEx can be flaky sometimes. I've had packages go "off the radar" for 3 days on what should have been an hour drive.  ::)  (it happened several times, staring long before COVID)  I hope that doesn't happen to you.

I agree. Sound can always be added later.



This one was shipped USPS. I dropped the ball on that one.


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: scifidude79 on February 23, 2021, 01:20:04 AM
This one was shipped USPS. I dropped the ball on that one.

In my opinion, they're slightly better than FedEx. Only slightly. I had a  package out for delivery that wasn't delivered today due to "no access to delivery location." Decoded: "I accidentally left it on the truck, forgot about it until I got back to the post office and had to BS a reason."


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: DarthProdigal on February 23, 2021, 05:21:00 PM
This one was shipped USPS. I dropped the ball on that one.

Yep, better get out the ole string and 2 cups to contact them for assistance. (I'm not knocking them, I really feel bad for them right now.)

I don't know Fedex hasn't done me wrong so I can't complain, but guess we'll see. Good luck getting that shipment, should have just hired smugglers! Or if it stays "lost" a bit too long find a good bounty hunter.


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: scifidude79 on February 24, 2021, 01:19:00 AM
I don't know Fedex hasn't done me wrong so I can't complain, but guess we'll see.

The company itself probably isn't bad, but I think individual experiences vary based on location and the meatbags running said locations. Example: I never have any issues with my local UPS, but I understand that there are areas where they're garbage.


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: JoleeBindo on February 25, 2021, 11:11:40 PM
Got in the saber today.  

I am completely UNDERWHELMED.

Don't waste your money buying mystery box sabers.  I got an Aeon v2 with an adegan silver blade, standard battery pack.  It has scratches all over it, and the silver av switch is the only thing that makes this worth more than $70.

I figured I'd be happy with whatever, but I'm honestly really disappointed.  This has definitely not impressed me. To a very severe degree.

This is an extremely plain hilt, and if there wasn't such a high restocking fee, I'd send it back.  The white blade with this very basic hilt makes it look like a flashlight.  Been a long week, was looking forward to this, oh well.


(https://i.imgur.com/1Zhgzkt.jpg)


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: JoleeBindo on February 25, 2021, 11:15:58 PM
And the battery pack is so tightly shoved into this hilt that you have to pry it out with a tool.


With this move I went from being a diehard Ultrasabers fan, to feeling like this was an excuse to pawn off a cheap scratch and dent saber.  I think I might be done with US, after this.

I'm so frustrated with this that it's back in it's shipping box already.  I don't know what I'm going to do, but this saber isn't staying, and I'm certainly not ordering the Fallen hilt I was planning on picking up this month.


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: DarthProdigal on February 26, 2021, 12:07:38 AM
Rolls a d20, gets a zero...? Character receives a critical hit and experiences perma death, cannot be revived or used in subsequent campaigns ever looks over at Dungeon Master and realizes it's Deadpool...

*wakes up screaming*

In all seriousness that is a tragic outcome, considering how motivated you were toward that new acquisition. I'd say something to the effect of "can't win 'em all" but that'd seem like a cheap consolation. More accurately I'd say, if it's a v2 hilt... well those are the "oldest" model hilts (short of PVC) if I'm not mistaken. So I'm not terribly surprised if it'd be a bit underwhelming, especially in comparison to the others you already own. It's like having high level gear already, looting a crate, and finding "beginner" gear that you instantly dismantle for base components. Seems like you now disdain 1/4 of your acquired US hilts... (if my math is right) so I'd say that's more of a reason to buy what you want specifically rather than roll dice in the future. But, I'd understandably also be pretty annoyed, so I get where you're coming from.

One of those moment's you wish you could respawn at the checkpoint or load an earlier save file, only to see it's been saved over or erased. It sounds like a tough break for sure. I (in part) feel your pain my good Jedi. I'd had my own apprehensions toward "mystery" (since I tend to lose on scratch tickets or drawing for sure), I like to stack the odds in my favor or guarantee success if possible. I think you just convinced me to not opt toward such and to instead just get my desired hilt(s) for sure. I'm much too particular and would probably be dejected as well by an unfavorable outcome.


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: JoleeBindo on February 26, 2021, 01:00:18 AM
Rolls a d20, gets a zero...? Character receives a critical hit and experiences perma death, cannot be revived or used in subsequent campaigns ever looks over at Dungeon Master and realizes it's Deadpool...

*wakes up screaming*

In all seriousness that is a tragic outcome, considering how motivated you were toward that new acquisition. I'd say something to the effect of "can't win 'em all" but that'd seem like a cheap consolation. More accurately I'd say, if it's a v2 hilt... well those are the "oldest" model hilts (short of PVC) if I'm not mistaken. So I'm not terribly surprised if it'd be a bit underwhelming, especially in comparison to the others you already own. It's like having high level gear already, looting a crate, and finding "beginner" gear that you instantly dismantle for base components. Seems like you now disdain 1/4 of your acquired US hilts... (if my math is right) so I'd say that's more of a reason to buy what you want specifically rather than roll dice in the future. But, I'd understandably also be pretty annoyed, so I get where you're coming from.

One of those moment's you wish you could respawn at the checkpoint or load an earlier save file, only to see it's been saved over or erased. It sounds like a tough break for sure. I (in part) feel your pain my good Jedi. I'd had my own apprehensions toward "mystery" (since I tend to lose on scratch tickets or drawing for sure), I like to stack the odds in my favor or guarantee success if possible. I think you just convinced me to not opt toward such and to instead just get my desired hilt(s) for sure. I'm much too particular and would probably be dejected as well by an unfavorable outcome.

That was a very accurate assesment of this outcome. 

I looted said crate, found a beginner piece of gear, and having paid $91 including shipping for this, am really disappointed.  I read the fine print, knew there could be dings and scrapes, but was expecting a mid tier cosmetically damaged item.  Not low-tier damaged item.  It still feels like a slap in the face. 


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: scifidude79 on February 26, 2021, 01:26:31 AM
This is why I only ordered a few grab bags back in 2016 and never touched the Mystery Boxes. The odds of getting something incredible are significantly less than a saber that costs just north of $75, and there's always the chance you'll get a saber you don't want. But, like you said, that's all in the product description.

I have to agree, Adegan Silver is a bland color. I intentionally ordered a saber once in that color (ironically, it was a Dominix LE V2.) I thought it might be cool, but it was boring. Eventually, I changed that saber to orange.


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: JoleeBindo on February 26, 2021, 01:35:44 AM
The fine print is pretty misleading, which is honestly why I'm honestly angry.  "You'll receive a saber worth at least $75."  So, I scrolled down to the sabers that all cost $75 base price.  I could live with any of them. 

Instead I was shipped a V2 hilt with one small upgrade putting it above the $75.  That's kind of cheap, in my opinion. 

I completely get selling off damaged sabers for a discount, in a grab bag way.  I have no issues with that.  But if you don't give your customers value for money with these things, they won't spend any more money with you. 

And that's where I find myself.  I've been spending a fairly significant amount of my fun money, per month, on Ultrasabers products.  That stops now.


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: DarthProdigal on February 26, 2021, 01:48:48 AM
This is why I only ordered a few grab bags back in 2016 and never touched the Mystery Boxes. The odds of getting something incredible are significantly less than a saber that costs just north of $75, and there's always the chance you'll get a saber you don't want. But, like you said, that's all in the product description.

I have to agree, Adegan Silver is a bland color. I intentionally ordered a saber once in that color (ironically, it was a Dominix LE V2.) I thought it might be cool, but it was boring. Eventually, I changed that saber to orange.

I agree in principle. It'd at least be a good gesture to have included a set of color discs with such a purchase. It's not like he chose an AS colored blade. So simply adding the option along with the random AS blade would have had the potential for less disappointment in theory.

I can also agree with the fact that if you're drooling over the wealth of "possible options" that qualify and you receive something bottom tier and plain as a result, it's easy to be unhappy. As you'd stated, you would have been fine with a slightly more ornate, interesting, or elaborate design even if it was in less than ideal condition. You went in with what you thought were reasonable expectations, and received less than what you'd term an "adequate return" on investment. I personally want a dark initiate v2, but would not be pleased with a silver v2 in comparison. Small details matter, like if even the blade color had turned out to be something stunning that you don't own like Orange or even Purple. I can't say your gripes are illegitimate by any means. It's simply sad we can't turn back the clock and have gotten you your Fallen instead. It's just a shame...


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: JoleeBindo on February 26, 2021, 02:06:19 AM
You sound like me, DarthProdigal.  Ever the diplomat.

Yes, I'm being a cranky old man because this saber technically meets the letter of their advertisement, it certainly does not embody the spirit of it.  Cheap carnival trickery makes me ornery, so yep, I'm ornery now.

I expected better from a company I'd grown to love, and now I'm disappointed in them.


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: DarthRondoudou on February 26, 2021, 03:50:21 AM
You sound like me, DarthProdigal.  Ever the diplomat.

Yes, I'm being a cranky old man because this saber technically meets the letter of their advertisement, it certainly does not embody the spirit of it.  Cheap carnival trickery makes me ornery, so yep, I'm ornery now.

I expected better from a company I'd grown to love, and now I'm disappointed in them.
I am sad to hear that.
Even though the fine prints said that could happen, receiving a saber worth a grab bag label is always disappointing.
The only way to flush out the v2s is to opt for the sound MB if I understand correctly.
This right here is the reason why I will not order any other MB. I had luck the first time. And the catalogue is not that appealing to me anymore. The odds are not in my favor.
That being said. The Fallen is a very specific hilt. And if you were going for a colored version, you should take time to think about it. Cause those are not easy to come across elsewhere. =/


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: JoleeBindo on February 26, 2021, 02:37:56 PM
I am sad to hear that.
Even though the fine prints said that could happen, receiving a saber worth a grab bag label is always disappointing.
The only way to flush out the v2s is to opt for the sound MB if I understand correctly.
This right here is the reason why I will not order any other MB. I had luck the first time. And the catalogue is not that appealing to me anymore. The odds are not in my favor.
That being said. The Fallen is a very specific hilt. And if you were going for a colored version, you should take time to think about it. Cause those are not easy to come across elsewhere. =/

You're right, it is a very specific hilt. I'll still have one, at some point.

 I still am not going to buy it here.  I'll find a used one off of someone, sometime, and get it that way. I don't buy retail US, anymore. This is a cheap way for them to offload unwanted product using verbal sleight of hand.  If I want a US hilt, from here on out, it comes from the big auction site. 


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: scifidude79 on February 27, 2021, 06:09:15 AM
Truth be told, Emory once said on this very forum that the Grab Bags were literally created to clean out his back room. He had no idea the idea would resonate so well with customers. I would assume the Mystery Boxes are an extension of that. They get hilts in stock in batches and they likely have ones that don't meet standards but are technically still serviceable. They also have returns and cancelled orders. That's why they're being sold at a discount. It's also been said by him that this isn't intended to be a primary way of ordering sabers.

I don't know if you do any kind of martial arts or spinning, but you may want to give that hilt a chance. The Aeon V2 is one of my favorite spinners. I own 2 of them (bought a staff) and a Dominix LE V2. The length, grip and weight distribution are supreme, in my opinion. I know you don't like the scratches on it, but most everything in the Star Wars universe has a beat up look to it. Also, those can be sanded and buffed out.


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: firehand10k on March 16, 2021, 01:52:59 AM
As Qui-Gon said, " Whenever you gamble, my friend, sometimes you lose."

That being said your got one of the more customizable hilts available. Its a blank slate that can be made into so much more. It 5akes a bit of imagination but what makes that hold boring to many gives it more potential than most of the others in the line-up. 

It amuses me how people in current society love to take things as a sleight when in fact they have been handed opportunity.  When I recieved one of the 2 hilts I never would have ordered from a game of chance I turned it into what is still one of the favorites of my collection.


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: DarthProdigal on March 16, 2021, 02:06:00 PM
Yeah, I volunteered to take it and "battle scar" the poor thing into almost oblivion, like a droid you'd see in the "delicate care" of Jawas or something. I mean I could use a hilt I truly don't like/care about at all to savagely weather into near oblivion. I mean what's a Sith Lord without a Jedi's lightsaber that he cut down somewhere as a trophy or in the arsenal. It's not my fault I swear, blame Disney for making bleeding Kybers canon! Technically that one move created countless Jedi deaths that otherwise "didn't need to happen" in old lore. lol, pure Dark Side move on their part. I mean EVERY Sith basically means one dead Jedi (unless they bled their own crystal, but the Emperor calls that "unthinkable") so if you dual wield Jar' Kai... or need 2 crystals for a saberstaff you designed. "Hmmm, have a few of the padawans disappeared of late?"

Seriously though, I will probably order a stunt mystery box for this purpose and with my luck get something I LOVE and want to keep pristine. But I need one to take a saw and blowtorch to for a display, or to wear as a trophy at Cons. Open up an outfit compartment and show off my stolen collection Grievous style...


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: nunya on March 16, 2021, 07:44:58 PM
If you like the mystery of it all then for sure go with the grab bag. 

My recommendation is to order the stunt of whatever hilt you like at the 75 or less range during one of the 10,15,20% off promotions.  Especially if you get free shipping.  Considering that the promotions cannot be used on the mystery box (can on grab bag though??) it might even come out to a better value.
My experience was a better price for two stunt sabers using 20% off and free shipping - under $120 before tax!  They both arrived with free AV switch upgrade (i chose guarded). 
i customized with sound cards and speakers from $2 plastic toy sabers - now they are duel worthy sound enabled sabers. 


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: firehand10k on March 17, 2021, 05:14:53 PM
If you like the mystery of it all then for sure go with the grab bag. 

My recommendation is to order the stunt of whatever hilt you like at the 75 or less range during one of the 10,15,20% off promotions.  Especially if you get free shipping.  Considering that the promotions cannot be used on the mystery box (can on grab bag though??) it might even come out to a better value.
My experience was a better price for two stunt sabers using 20% off and free shipping - under $120 before tax!  They both arrived with free AV switch upgrade (i chose guarded). 
i customized with sound cards and speakers from $2 plastic toy sabers - now they are duel worthy sound enabled sabers. 


I'd be mad if I ordered guarded and it came with AV. The best easiest upgrade to Ultrasabers is a 12mm av switch. That falls right through their av switch hole.


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: nunya on March 18, 2021, 03:59:42 PM
I'd be mad if I ordered guarded and it came with AV. The best easiest upgrade to Ultrasabers is a 12mm av switch. That falls right through their av switch hole.
true - one cannot make the switch hole smaller.  I wish they had a "no-holes" option for all purchases.
I was okay with the change since i already have some 16mm switches and only chose guarded because it kept the cost down.  I certainly got the feeling of "grab bag" even though i specifically chose those hilt styles - if that makes sense.  Sort of like 'oh look, we have that right over here in the returns/floor-model/etc but with a different switch" 
meh...


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: DarthProdigal on March 18, 2021, 05:28:28 PM
true - one cannot make the switch hole smaller.  I wish they had a "no-holes" option for all purchases.

I agree, "no additional holes" in comments when ordering may help? Idk. I can agree though, in principle.


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: Atanvarno on March 19, 2021, 01:44:16 PM
Don't you think you are a little bit too harsh on UltraSabers? As i understand, you still have 3 blades from them that you like. You got one that you hate at a game of dice, and you are mad? So, the other three hilts mean nothing to you regarding your opinion on Ultrasabers?


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: nunya on March 19, 2021, 04:01:19 PM
Don't you think you are a little bit too harsh on UltraSabers? As i understand, you still have 3 blades from them that you like. You got one that you hate at a game of dice, and you are mad? So, the other three hilts mean nothing to you regarding your opinion on Ultrasabers?
agreed.


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: DarthProdigal on March 19, 2021, 09:26:44 PM
Don't you think you are a little bit too harsh on UltraSabers? As i understand, you still have 3 blades from them that you like. You got one that you hate at a game of dice, and you are mad? So, the other three hilts mean nothing to you regarding your opinion on Ultrasabers?

Yeah I think it was toughly 2 US brand and 1 or 2 from the other guys... but the way I understood it, it was more a stark disappointment at the quality of received item for relative amount of money invested in that purchase. Basically it was deemed as far below the quality expected for ~ $85-90. Less about brand quality overall and more about extreme disillusionment with the idea of "fair play" in the outcomes. Too shoddy of a result to leave anything but a bad taste in the mouth, at least in my interpretation. It's simply an opinion generated by the general feel of the transaction at large.

That said, I do get part of what you're getting at, and said as much myself. Though I myself could very likely have had a similar reaction given such an unfavorable result; especially if I was as "pumped up" for it before hand and left feeling I did not get my monies worth... I've yet to have a truly bad US experience, and thus can't judge or predict how it'd leave me after (with any degree of certainty) though I do know I've sworn off brands in other categories once I felt their quality was excessively substandard or I'd been cheated on a high $ expenditure. So I endeavor to avoid such outcomes, and agree with some of the previous advice to avoid them. Namely buying what is wanted VS playing with dice. But that's just my opinion.


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: lowlead on April 23, 2021, 01:08:53 PM
...Yes, I'm being a cranky old man....

Well at least you're self aware.  I read through this thread and I agree with some above comments - give 'em another chance.  I'm around 10-ish sabers in, and have nothing but good things to say about US.  I was thinking about trying a $75 MB just for fun - you get whatcha get.


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: DarthRondoudou on April 23, 2021, 02:19:49 PM
Well. MB aren't for everyone. And I think Darth Prodigal summed up what happened quite clearly.
It's all about the outcome feeling like it's not a match for the price : cheaper hilt with a small upgrade = cheating. And I totally understand that. I did pick a sound MB. And was quite pleased with the outcome. But I probably won't try MBs again. Between my sound MB and winning the diamond price at the last raffle, it feels like I've exhausted my US luck. Plus there aren't that many sabers I like left. But that's just me.
And if JoleeBindo decided that he would not spend his money with US anymore, that's his choice. And I doubt demeaning him would change his mind nor encourage people to contribute to the forum.


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: DarthProdigal on April 23, 2021, 10:39:35 PM
I was thinking about trying a $75 MB just for fun - you get whatcha get.

I guess I'll have to echo my earlier comments to the effect of good luck with that... since the OP said something eerily similar to the latter part of your post at first lowlead. I guess we can all be optimistic prior to opening whatever arrives, but it's a wild game of russian roulette and I don't feel that brave just yet. Maybe you'll "win" although possibly you'll be disappointed. Guess we'll have to wait and see if you pull the trigger? Let us know the outcome if you do.

Btw, I like those images you chose for your profile lowlead; so may the Force serve you well if you end up rolling the dice on a MB.


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: lowlead on April 24, 2021, 12:21:13 AM
Greetings Lord Prodigal.

Thank you for your comments.  Dark Accolades to you.  Sienar Fleet Systems has indeed served their Masters well.

With regard to the MB purchase, I consider it as follows: I already have a well-rounded arsenal of precisely what I desired from UltraSabers.  Now it's time to have a bit of fun, perhaps.  US has successfully established a well-respected reputation throughout my past acquisitions, so I am already 'at peace' with whatever arrives.  And if I'm disappointed with my $75 MB weapon, I will toss it to my opponent to give them a fighting chance before I sever their Jedi head from their shoulders.

Revel in the Dark Side 


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: DarthProdigal on April 24, 2021, 03:48:48 PM
I appreciate the enthusiasm, and do hope it plays out as desired... I know only that I've heard almost the same words verbatim only to see such dreams reduced to cinders before my eyes. I am ever fond of a pet project or extra weaponry with which to arm my practice dummies. So, I share your sentiments more or less. I've been debating a project hilt to damage heavily, giving it the proper aesthetic. Though it's yet to be seen if this will be the proper route to make such an acquisition. I may yet follow Darth Rondoudou's ideology and be a bit more selective prior to "customization". I also find myself being rather particular, even with less desirable or expensive items, anger being swift for substandard hardware. We shall see, but it would be a victory if you succeed in your pursuit. At any rate, I'll eagerly await the outcome.


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: DarthRondoudou on April 24, 2021, 04:53:44 PM
I appreciate the enthusiasm, and do hope it plays out as desired... I know only that I've heard almost the same words verbatim only to see such dreams reduced to cinders before my eyes. I am ever fond of a pet project or extra weaponry with which to arm my practice dummies. So, I share your sentiments more or less. I've been debating a project hilt to damage heavily, giving it the proper aesthetic. Though it's yet to be seen if this will be the proper route to make such an acquisition. I may yet follow Darth Rondoudou's ideology and be a bit more selective prior to "customization". I also find myself being rather particular, even with less desirable or expensive items, anger being swift for substandard hardware. We shall see, but it would be a victory if you succeed in your pursuit. At any rate, I'll eagerly await the outcome.
Well, yeah that's another thing right there. I customized stuff because I was not happy with what I got. And they were free!!! That's a problem with me. There is so many hilts in US catalogue that only a few of them are appealing to me. So... getting free stuff is nice. But I can't imagine if I had paid for those as well... free initiates (so no way to pay for that), and free grab bag (that can be bought. And now I know not to do it either).
It all comes down to that. If you like/enjoy most of their catalogue, then MB/GB are a viable option to get sabers for cheap.

Now. IIRC, V2s can't be upgraded to sound with electronics sold by US. (Correct me if I'm wrong).
So... Do I agree with JoleeBindo that getting a V2 with AV switch is cheating/infuriating? Damn right I do. My personnal opinion is that they should not be included in GB/MBs. People should be able to buy them if they like them. But they are a very specific product. But I don't make the rules.
Would I have stopped buying US products if I had gotten a V2AV as an MB? Doubtful. It depends how many hilts are still missing from what I want from them.
BUT this won't ever be a problem. I like my sabers with sound. So even if I go for a MB again I would go for the 200$ ones. So no chance of getting a V2. But a V3/V4 would still be a HUGE disappointment for me.

Wether you get free stuff or opt for a GB/MB, you might end up getting lemons. And if you're not ready to make lemonade with them (like I did with my Liberator), then you should probably avoid those. Free stuff is free so it's not as "bad" anyway.


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: DarthProdigal on April 24, 2021, 06:18:18 PM
Wether you get free stuff or opt for a GB/MB, you might end up getting lemons. And if you're not ready to make lemonade with them (like I did with my Liberator), then you should probably avoid those. Free stuff is free so it's not as "bad" anyway.

I do find most of your statement something I'd agree with (but for the sake of saving a bit of space, it is right there above anyway for reference). I have recently shifted my viewpoint slightly in regards to the thought of US "free" products. Don't get me wrong, I love how much they basically give away to us consumers... But, I feel it's just inaccurate to deem these things truly free (although about as close to free as is reasonable). They're totally customer rewards for sure. But the label "free with purchase" has the truest ring to it... like those coupons that say "Come get your free (blank) today, with qualifying purchase." You technically have to order something, order within the right timeframe, enter codes at checkout, or follow the instructions for raffles. Again, I love all this stuff, and seriously appreciate these tempting "add-ons" to purchases I'd be excited to make anyway (when feasible) not to mention the sound upgrade events or infinite Franken Saber possibilities. But you do have to spend to get the additional "free" things. Heck, I do see the brilliance in it. It's great marketing, and surely tempts people to band together to make collective purchases on occasion (or gifts) and split up the rewards.

The Force served me well in delivering a beautiful blazing red initiate, with a sizeable blade, in v5 with that gorgeous windowed emitter. So I was super satisfied with my free initiate in the end. Though I was less impressed at first glance on viewing this "plain jane" silver saber on first impression, until I powered it up! Now, had I been a Jedi I wouldn't have likely appreciated the glorious red blade as much in theory... so basically luck of the draw can be a b****, but I love whoever packed/created my order for hooking a Sith up for real. The simplicity of the outer façade just made it preferable for light modification, thus a good project.

Basically, you can't please everyone. But in my experience US does a pretty great job trying and has served me well. I'll more likely than not keep purchasing during various events and raffles to get what I truly desire and free addons (or possible prize wins) that I also can live with. To me, that MB is the deep end of the pool, and I'm unwilling to jump in head 1st. $200 is too rich for my blood to still have options in the mix I may not like. Easier to just design/choose a lower end hilt I prefer to tinker around with if that's the goal. I like games of chance where I can affect the outcome or stack odds in my favor much more than blind luck. Either way, I'm envious of both of your collections in comparison to my own. My personal arsenal does require expansion.


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: DarthRondoudou on April 24, 2021, 07:09:17 PM
Yup, it's free stuff IF you buy that much first. Indeed. (See my other post about Diamond sabersx2 not qualifying for free MB...)
I totally get your point. I felt like trying for a sound MB. And got something I'd have bought eventually. Still... It was risky.
This should be a warning for everyone. If you love them all and are short on money, sure, give it a try. But if you really want one of the hilts, save money, then buy this particular hilt your heart is set on with as many bells and whistles you wish for/can afford.

As a reminder :
Grab Bag : no possibility for sound, and minor cosmetic flaws are to be expected.
MB 75$ : minor cosmetic flaws can happen, stunts are the norm with sound being a reaaaaaaally small possibility. You might end up with a V2 (<<75$) with an upgraded switch to match the 75$.
MB 200$ : guaranted sound (any sound but I'd say emerald and diamond are pretty rare), V2s are out.


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: jmacjedi on May 19, 2021, 05:08:30 AM
I am contemplating ordering 6 mystery box sabers for my groomsmen as a gift. If I order today, do you think I will have these in hand before june 18th?? Appreciate the help. 


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: DarthRondoudou on May 19, 2021, 12:42:43 PM
I am contemplating ordering 6 mystery box sabers for my groomsmen as a gift. If I order today, do you think I will have these in hand before june 18th?? Appreciate the help. 
Only the customer service can tell you if they have enough mystery boxes available for ongoing orders and yours.
If they are available, shipping can be really fast. (If you do not enter the raffle)


Title: Re: Just ordered my first Mystery Box Saber
Post by: DarthProdigal on May 19, 2021, 03:38:32 PM
I am contemplating ordering 6 mystery box sabers for my groomsmen as a gift. If I order today, do you think I will have these in hand before june 18th?? Appreciate the help. 

Things do seem to have been shipping out with relative speed recently, so I mean for a boat load of mystery boxes within a month... it sounds plausible enough. Sounds like a fun wedding to be at! Best of luck with that.