Darth Tepes
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« Reply #3240 on: July 24, 2019, 04:49:41 PM » |
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So I was thinking while mowing last night: In ANH, Han loses his $#!% and goes tearing off after a squad of troopers. This makes no sense. He's just screaming and running, not even shooting. What makes even less sense is that these are supposed to be the fearsome 501 st. You're telling me that 8 of the best clones in the Empire can't take down a nut job and his Wookiee? A lot doesn't make sense in ANH...I just chalk it up to it being such an ambitious project that no one thought would go anywhere.
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« Reply #3241 on: July 24, 2019, 09:51:50 AM » |
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A lot doesn't make sense in ANH...I just chalk it up to it being such an ambitious project that no one thought would go anywhere.
Even if you take out what would eventually become part of a larger story, it still doesn't make sense. Oh well. George should have never directed.
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« Reply #3242 on: July 24, 2019, 06:00:08 PM » |
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« Reply #3243 on: July 24, 2019, 11:34:03 AM » |
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« Reply #3244 on: July 24, 2019, 06:41:38 PM » |
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Shows how far visual fx have come. This shot makes his saber both off-center and look really scrawny
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« Reply #3245 on: July 24, 2019, 11:50:28 AM » |
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Shows how far visual fx have come. This shot makes his saber both off-center and look really scrawny
It's called 'perspective'.
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« Reply #3246 on: July 24, 2019, 06:52:26 PM » |
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It's called 'perspective'.
Not talking the length. Look at the overall width of the blade and how far the glow extends. Its really tight to the core of the blade, kinda similar to how Rebels did the saber but looks less intentional
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« Reply #3247 on: July 24, 2019, 11:54:36 AM » |
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Not talking the length. Look at the overall width of the blade and how far the glow extends. Its really tight to the core of the blade, kinda similar to how Rebels did the saber but looks less intentional
There are many that are fans of the "thin blade" sabers. That's why they did the blades the way they did in SWR.
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« Reply #3248 on: July 24, 2019, 06:56:25 PM » |
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There are many that are fans of the "thin blade" sabers. That's why they did the blades the way they did in SWR.
And thats fair, it just looks a little less intentional in this shot, especially combined with the blade extending off-center from the emitter
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« Reply #3249 on: July 24, 2019, 07:26:23 PM » |
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Logos is right. Look at my staff, most people thought the other end was short
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« Reply #3250 on: July 24, 2019, 07:41:34 PM » |
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Logos is right. Look at my staff, most people thought the other end was short Hi all, the film term for this phenomenon is "foreshortening", similar to when you hold both hands out in front of you but hold one hand at your shoulder and the other at full arm's length...it makes one hand look "bigger". Regards to VFX today the stunt prop hilts have GPS tracking locators and radio transmitters that send real time co-ordinates to track where the hilt and blade are in the camera shot. Another computer then applies the blade fx over those co-ordinates for each frame. This way the stunt prop and the fx are perfectly aligned, the correct length and most of the editing can be done automatically. (There were some BTS pictures of the British royal princes playing with the hilts of Rey and Kylo and you could see the small black radio antennae sticking out of the pommel - they can also trigger the FOC using radio signals using this radio link)
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« Reply #3251 on: July 24, 2019, 01:48:00 PM » |
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Not talking the length. Look at the overall width of the blade and how far the glow extends. Its really tight to the core of the blade, kinda similar to how Rebels did the saber but looks less intentional
You might be forgetting that Vader's hilt has an emitter shroud, and that the blade does not fill the radius that it makes. I'll try to remember to get a pic of my CO for you tonight. I thought US accurately captured that aspect in that hilt.
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« Reply #3252 on: July 26, 2019, 12:29:49 PM » |
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Hi all, the film term for this phenomenon is "foreshortening", similar to when you hold both hands out in front of you but hold one hand at your shoulder and the other at full arm's length...it makes one hand look "bigger".
Regards to VFX today the stunt prop hilts have GPS tracking locators and radio transmitters that send real time co-ordinates to track where the hilt and blade are in the camera shot. Another computer then applies the blade fx over those co-ordinates for each frame. This way the stunt prop and the fx are perfectly aligned, the correct length and most of the editing can be done automatically. (There were some BTS pictures of the British royal princes playing with the hilts of Rey and Kylo and you could see the small black radio antennae sticking out of the pommel - they can also trigger the FOC using radio signals using this radio link)
Much faster than in the OT where they literally Rotoscoped the blades onto each cell
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« Reply #3253 on: July 27, 2019, 04:20:03 AM » |
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They are also supposed to be precise with blasters yet they can't seem to hit Han in a narrow corridor or Luke and Leia who are standing on a tiny platform with no cover.
Just FYI, Precision and Accuracy are two different things. Stormtroopers may be precise, they just are not accurate.
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« Reply #3254 on: July 29, 2019, 12:43:15 PM » |
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Just FYI, Precision and Accuracy are two different things. Stormtroopers may be precise, they just are not accurate.
Very true. Though since they seem to always hit all around their target I'd say they are accurate but terribly not precise.
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