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« Reply #2640 on: July 28, 2018, 05:16:14 PM »

Interestingly, James Luceno, who wrote Tarkin, wrote some of the characters from Darth Plagueis into Tarkin, giving Darth Plagueis a back door into canon... from a certain point of view.

Plagueis, much like Bane, was always canon...its just the details that are not
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« Reply #2641 on: July 28, 2018, 05:50:00 PM »

I was referring to the book being backdoored into canon, due to the inclusion of characters from it in Tarkin.  Luceno has written some really good SW stuff, which is why I think he's gotten away with the change.
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« Reply #2642 on: July 28, 2018, 03:49:34 PM »

I was referring to the book being backdoored into canon, due to the inclusion of characters from it in Tarkin.  Luceno has written some really good SW stuff, which is why I think he's gotten away with the change.

I don't think it works that way, I wish it did.  Thrawn is in Rebels but that doesn't automatically make Mara Jade canon...sadly
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« Reply #2643 on: July 29, 2018, 01:49:40 AM »

I don't think it works that way, I wish it did.  Thrawn is in Rebels but that doesn't automatically make Mara Jade canon...sadly

Wish it did too, I hate those instances where the decanonization ended up removing material that supported Star Wars and made it better, especially if they aren't going to replace it with something else but just leave it a gaping hole.

On a side note, is there an instance where they actually made an announcement or something similar that brought EU directly into the New Canon totally intact? For example, "Walt Disney company announces that Darth Plagueis novel made Canon in it's entirety" or something like that? As far as I know they brought major items (like the OT) in, then decided to just start moving only forward with stories from there, but I'm curious if after the initial announcement of New Canon that anything ever got added.
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« Reply #2644 on: July 29, 2018, 04:23:42 AM »

I don't think it works that way, I wish it did.  Thrawn is in Rebels but that doesn't automatically make Mara Jade canon...sadly

Yes, but the character included is REALLY central to Darth Plagueis, and plays a VERY similar role within Tarkin.

Thrawn, meanwhile got retconned by Zahn (and a second book just came out), so while not wholly the same, at least the same author who created him is still working with the character and we get similar tales.

There could still be room for Mara in the interstitial years between RotJ and TFA - we still don't know who was at Luke's Academy prior to its destruction.  Mara might also show up as one of the aforementioned (but as yet unseen) Knights of Ren...
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« Reply #2645 on: July 29, 2018, 08:42:11 PM »

Wish it did too, I hate those instances where the decanonization ended up removing material that supported Star Wars and made it better, especially if they aren't going to replace it with something else but just leave it a gaping hole.

On a side note, is there an instance where they actually made an announcement or something similar that brought EU directly into the New Canon totally intact? For example, "Walt Disney company announces that Darth Plagueis novel made Canon in it's entirety" or something like that? As far as I know they brought major items (like the OT) in, then decided to just start moving only forward with stories from there, but I'm curious if after the initial announcement of New Canon that anything ever got added.

No announcements per se but little hints here and there...mostly from Rebels and The Clone Wars.  Malchor 5, mentioning the war between the Jedi and the Mandolorians, Pre Vizla mentioning the dark Saber was taken from the temple during the fall of the old republic (reference to Shae Visla helping Darth Malgus sack the temple in the Old Republic Cinematic Betrayal).   While they were adamant they wanted to make their own Eu they did say some thing would intertwine..."Truth in Legends" is their line on that.



Yes, but the character included is REALLY central to Darth Plagueis, and plays a VERY similar role within Tarkin.

Thrawn, meanwhile got retconned by Zahn (and a second book just came out), so while not wholly the same, at least the same author who created him is still working with the character and we get similar tales.

There could still be room for Mara in the interstitial years between RotJ and TFA - we still don't know who was at Luke's Academy prior to its destruction.  Mara might also show up as one of the aforementioned (but as yet unseen) Knights of Ren...

The difference is Thrawn is still Thrawn.  He still acts like Thrawn, speaks like Thrawn and (other than the eyes) looks like Thrawn.  He has just been placed in a different situation and given a backstory.  Second book is great btw.

But Mara Jade...well there really isn't any way to bring her in.  It would be just a character named Mara Jade...which would not go over well with the already pissed fan base. 
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« Reply #2646 on: July 30, 2018, 02:18:23 PM »

Woah.... I can't describe the look of utter glee on my face after watching that. Simply put, EPIC!

Just finished Darth Plagueis, a very well put together SW novel. Didn't realize going into it how infused with dark side characterization it would be, so much information about the dark side and the behind the scenes workings of the Sith pulling from the Force. I had to remind myself multiple times while reading that it wasn't canon, and every time I did I frowned a little. It just feels canon and such a shame that we got a great look at Plaugeis only to have it wrenched away to decanonization. Would love to see Plaugueis on the big screen somehow.
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« Reply #2647 on: July 30, 2018, 03:04:34 PM »

Welcome to the League of Disappointed SW Fans.

There are even shirts....
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« Reply #2648 on: July 30, 2018, 03:07:14 PM »

Welcome to the League of Disappointed SW Fans.
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« Reply #2649 on: July 30, 2018, 04:17:32 PM »

There are even shirts....
Really?
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« Reply #2650 on: July 30, 2018, 05:10:27 PM »

No announcements per se but little hints here and there...mostly from Rebels and The Clone Wars.  Malchor 5, mentioning the war between the Jedi and the Mandolorians, Pre Vizla mentioning the dark Saber was taken from the temple during the fall of the old republic (reference to Shae Visla helping Darth Malgus sack the temple in the Old Republic Cinematic Betrayal).   While they were adamant they wanted to make their own Eu they did say some thing would intertwine..."Truth in Legends" is their line on that.

Interesting, yeah it's such a strange scenario to have well established stories but then to throw them away and (seemingly) have no plans to immediately rewrite and reintroduce them. Star Wars is a really odd category of fandom because of Canon issues. I don't think there's anything else out there quite like it.
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« Reply #2651 on: July 30, 2018, 05:48:14 PM »

Really?

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« Reply #2652 on: July 30, 2018, 06:17:20 PM »


Now that's witty, I like.
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« Reply #2653 on: August 16, 2018, 07:49:04 PM »

Welcome to the League of Disappointed SW Fans.

that honestly should be a legit thing
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« Reply #2654 on: August 16, 2018, 07:56:16 PM »

that honestly should be a legit thing
According to Tepes, it is.

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