Random Star Wars Thoughts

[TheDutchman]

Thoughts?


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I usually hate crossguard. But this one is more thoughtful than those we've seen so far.

My feelings exact^^

However, there are some SPECTACULAR saber renderings (both with and without cross guards) in the Fan Fiction Forums in the threads posted by For Tyeth and PsychoSith.  I HIGHLY recommend that you check them out if you haven't done so already 

[Saso Is-kor]

Ugh, another crossguard 

Really though you have to try to hit yourself with quillions on a sword....the normal Crossguard saber is not as dangerous as it seems.

That's interesting. I made a PVC crossguard replica of Kylo's saber just for mock sparing, and the quillions constantly get in the way when adjusting grip on the handle and especially when doing any kind of spinning (I literally would have cut my hands, arms, and midsection in two a thousand times over by now.) I guess you just have to constantly be mindful of the quillions but that seems like a major inconvenience when in a duel.

[For Tyeth]

Ugh, another crossguard 

That's interesting. I made a PVC crossguard replica of Kylo's saber just for mock sparing, and the quillions constantly get in the way when adjusting grip on the handle and especially when doing any kind of spinning (I literally would have cut my hands, arms, and midsection in two a thousand times over by now.) I guess you just have to constantly be mindful of the quillions but that seems like a major inconvenience when in a duel.

Would this ^^ count as the first incident of a self inflicted "Death by a Thousand Cuts"? 

It's nice to see Disney/Lucasfilm are pushing their designs I guess but I think they still have a long way to go to beat the beauties PsychoSith has come up with.

Points to Darth Tepes for posting the artwork, one to Dutch for the kind shoutout and one to Saso Is-Kor if he survived his ordeal.

[Darth Tepes]

Ugh, another crossguard  :-

That's interesting. I made a PVC crossguard replica of Kylo's saber just for mock sparing, and the quillions constantly get in the way when adjusting grip on the handle and especially when doing any kind of spinning (I literally would have cut my hands, arms, and midsection in two a thousand times over by now.) I guess you just have to constantly be mindful of the quillions but that seems like a major inconvenience when in a duel.

There is the rub...... None of that is done much in actual combat.  See I hate the spinning and flashy stuff...I approach Lightsaber fighting with my knowledge of actual swordsmanship.  The saber forms were derived from kendo, wushu and sport fencing.... All three are derivatives of combat but made with sport in mind.   Don't get me wrong, I'm not disparaging it.... Just not my cup o tea.  Here is an example of longsword choreography using real techniques to give an idea of what i mean.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn36Pb8z3yI&amp;feature=youtu.be" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn36Pb8z3yI&amp;feature=youtu.be</a>

Indeed some of  Kylo's grips and stances were based on Longsword Techniques.  If you try to used a crosshilt like you would a "normal" saber...it is going to hit you.  Honestly though and I've said this before.... the Lightsaber is more light stick.  Round hilts are not found on swords so really Jo staff or Escrima would be a better fit for saber combat.

[Saso Is-kor]

Would this ^^ count as the first incident of a self inflicted "Death by a Thousand Cuts"? 

It's nice to see Disney/Lucasfilm are pushing their designs I guess but I think they still have a long way to go to beat the beauties PsychoSith has come up with.

Points to Darth Tepes for posting the artwork, one to Dutch for the kind shoutout and one to Saso Is-Kor if he survived his ordeal.

I survived... but from the waist down I look like post-spider legs Darth Maul.  

[Saso Is-kor]

There is the rub...... None of that is done much in actual combat.  See I hate the spinning and flashy stuff...I approach Lightsaber fighting with my knowledge of actual swordsmanship.  The saber forms were derived from kendo, wishy and sport fencing.... All three are derivatives of combat but made with sport in mind.   Don't get me wrong, I'm not disparaging it.... Just not my cup o tea.  Here is an example of longsword choreography using real techniques to give an idea of what i mean.


youtu.be/Cn36Pb8z3yI

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Good video. Yeah I figured as much with the spinning and stuff. Really couldn't see too many longsword users in history past whipping out an Ani/Obi spin. I still remember the kind of annoyed frustration when I finally constructed the crossguard and attempted to do Kylo's spinning antics from Ep. 7. I kept thinking "what a joke, this whole design makes no sense in a lightsaber at all." I think that's when my view of crossguards dropped quite a bit if I'm honest. Eh, maybe High Republic will change my mind.

[Darth Tepes]

Good video. Yeah I figured as much with the spinning and stuff. Really couldn't see too many longsword users in history past whipping out an Ani/Obi spin. I still remember the kind of annoyed frustration when I finally constructed the crossguard and attempted to do Kylo's spinning antics from Ep. 7. I kept thinking "what a joke, this whole design makes no sense in a lightsaber at all." I think that's when my view of crossguards dropped quite a bit if I'm honest. Eh, maybe High Republic will change my mind.

They are going to have to hire someone who knows longswords and not a kendo/wushu practitioner who thinks this is how a longsword is used.  I've wanted to do one myself for a while but there aren't many long sword users in my area.

[Saso Is-kor]

They are going to have to hire someone who knows longswords and not a kendo/wushu practitioner who thinks this is how a longsword is used.  I've wanted to do one myself for a while but there aren't many long sword users in my area.

There might be a strong possibility that they'd do that. I mean if Crossguards are a totally normal weapon in the High Republic era then it stands to reason the practitioners would be lightyears ahead of Kylo. We might even see a whole new form of lightsaber combat introduced. Ok, now I'm starting to get really excited for this.

[TheDutchman]

There is the rub...... None of that is done much in actual combat.  See I hate the spinning and flashy stuff...I approach Lightsaber fighting with my knowledge of actual swordsmanship.  The saber forms were derived from kendo, wushu and sport fencing.... All three are derivatives of combat but made with sport in mind.   Don't get me wrong, I'm not disparaging it.... Just not my cup o tea.  Here is an example of longsword choreography using real techniques to give an idea of what i mean.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn36Pb8z3yI&feature=youtu.be




Indeed some of  Kylo's grips and stances were based on Longsword Techniques.  If you try to used a crosshilt like you would a "normal" saber...it is going to hit you.  Honestly though and I've said this before.... the Lightsaber is more light stick.  Round hilts are not found on swords so really Jo staff or Escrima would be a better fit for saber combat.

Tepes, that was awesome!  I've seen some of the reenactments done but rarely at full speed.

Point!

Good video. Yeah I figured as much with the spinning and stuff. Really couldn't see too many longsword users in history past whipping out an Ani/Obi spin. I still remember the kind of annoyed frustration when I finally constructed the crossguard and attempted to do Kylo's spinning antics from Ep. 7. I kept thinking "what a joke, this whole design makes no sense in a lightsaber at all." I think that's when my view of crossguards dropped quite a bit if I'm honest. Eh, maybe High Republic will change my mind.

Yeah, I'm reserving judgment for the High Republic until I see more (I like the idea but...well, to say I WAS excited about Ep.7 & 8 is an understatement...and look at what we got  ). 

It's nice to see Disney/Lucasfilm are pushing their designs I guess but I think they still have a long way to go to beat the beauties PsychoSith has come up with.

I COMPLETELY agree!  PS's sabers ARE works of beauty!

...As are your own, FT 

[Taegin Roan]

Thoughts?

I don't hate it, but for some reason, I'm not loving it either. The blade to hilt length is off though.

[PsychoSith]

I *really* like that xguard design.

And thanks to both Dutch and For, I appreciate the compliments, but I think ive still some ways to go before hitting the design stride High Republic apparently has. We'll see as to the quality of the books themselves, but I can find no fault in their aesthetic.

[Darth Logos]

Thoughts?

God #$%&ING DAMMIT. Does every #$%&ing thing have to have moving parts? Way to show that your new series is nothing but a thinly veiled ploy to sell more crap toys.

Why couldn't we simply have had everything from the pommel to emitter on this without the kitsch? It would have been beautiful. Like these:



Plenty of flash and glitz without the hokey junk.

(To the mods, I'm not sure if any of these are from competetors. I just looked up "elegant lightsabers")

[TheDutchman]

God #$%&ING DAMMIT. Does every #$%&ing thing have to have moving parts? Way to show that your new series is nothing but a thinly veiled ploy to sell more crap toys.

Why couldn't we simply have had everything from the pommel to emitter on this without the kitsch? It would have been beautiful. Like these:



Plenty of flash and glitz without the hokey junk.

(To the mods, I'm not sure if any of these are from competetors. I just looked up "elegant lightsabers")

Wow those are some amazing hilts/mods.  I could easily see those on the belts of the Jedi circa the High Republic.

[Darth Logos]

Wow those are some amazing hilts/mods.  I could easily see those on the belts of the Jedi circa the High Republic.

EXACTLY! So why the crappy mechanic? I wouldn't even be that disappointed if the cross guard opened up, but they were simply cortosis or frick. But those stupid side beams are just trash.

[Darth Tepes]

I like it.  Moving parts don't bother me and I will get the Black series version if it does actually move.  Couple of things...when looking at promo art his is pretty much the only crossguard..they rest are similar to what you posted.  Secondly.  The write up for the character describes the function of the cross.  Unlike Kylo's saber in which the cross are vents for the unstable crystal...this saber is actually made with the side emitters and the cross acts as a "cap"....now I'm sure its not gonna make a difference for your opinion but I thought you should have all the facts