Li-Ion Battery Setup HIGHLY RECOMMENDED (Please Read Me)

[chimpyman]

question to anyone who knows. i just bought my first US, it was a grab bag single lightsaber. it comes with these battery's? and not the charger? or both or neither?

[Kresnik]

question to anyone who knows. i just bought my first US, it was a grab bag single lightsaber. it comes with these battery's? and not the charger? or both or neither?

99% of the grab bags ordered from the site come in the standard set up which would be 4 triple A batteries or 2 double As in some cases. 

The best bet imo is to invest in a good set of NIMh rechargeable batteries like the Sanyo Eneloop and a charger. 

[chimpyman]

99% of the grab bags ordered from the site come in the standard set up which would be 4 triple A batteries or 2 double As in some cases. 

The best bet imo is to invest in a good set of NIMh rechargeable batteries like the Sanyo Eneloop and a charger. 

hmmm ok, just curious why the NIMh ones over the ones on the website? http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-battcharcombo.htm

[Kresnik]

hmmm ok, just curious why the NIMh ones over the ones on the website? http://www.ultrasabers.com/product-p/z-electronics-battcharcombo.htm

Those are Li Ion, you would buy those if you had a saber with an Li ion set up.  It is not recommended to put Li Ion batteries into a standard set up saber.

There are essentially two battery options from Ultrasabers

Li Ion
Standard Battery

The Li Ion rarely if ever shows up in Grab Bag Sabers

Grab Bags are usually Standard Set up which are regular alkaline or Nimh rechargeables. 

[Choco]

NIMh and Li-ion batteries use different voltages so no it is not advised to use batteries not designed for it's intended purpose. For standard Setups Rechargable NIMh batteries work best for them for something to recharge. You usually need to buy the charger only once though stick with same brand batteries. Mixing batteries and chargers is not advised.

Sabers with sound and Emerald have higher power needs so they would be found in a Li-ion setup

[chimpyman]

NIMh and Li-ion batteries use different voltages so no it is not advised to use batteries not designed for it's intended purpose. For standard Setups Rechargable NIMh batteries work best for them for something to recharge. You usually need to buy the charger only once though stick with same brand batteries. Mixing batteries and chargers is not advised.

Sabers with sound and Emerald have higher power needs so they would be found in a Li-ion setup

hmm cool. thanks for the info. so when my grab bag comes, i need which charger exactly? since you said "Mixing batteries and chargers is not advised." but they only sell one charger on the US website. does it matter which charger i really get? i cant go to like best buy or radioshack and get a Universal Battery Charger??

[Choco]

hmm cool. thanks for the info. so when my grab bag comes, i need which charger exactly? since you said "Mixing batteries and chargers is not advised." but they only sell one charger on the US website. does it matter which charger i really get? i cant go to like best buy or radioshack and get a Universal Battery Charger??

The Chargers UltraSabers Sell is for the Li-Ion Batteries so unless your saber has that setup then don't worry about that. Standard Setups use 4 AAA batteries or in some cases 2 AA. These are the same type of batteries you would regularly find in a TV Remote, Flashlight etc

So you would go to any electronics stores they should carry rechargeable NIMh batteries and a charger they arn't hard to find in most stores in pharmacy stores and even connivance stores may also carry them. They arn't too expensive either though because they are rechargable are higher in price then the non-rechargable batteries you could get for your saber

[chimpyman]

The Chargers UltraSabers Sell is for the Li-Ion Batteries so unless your saber has that setup then don't worry about that. Standard Setups use 4 AAA batteries or in some cases 2 AA. These are the same type of batteries you would regularly find in a TV Remote, Flashlight etc

So you would go to any electronics stores they should carry rechargeable NIMh batteries and a charger they arn't hard to find in most stores in pharmacy stores and even connivance stores may also carry them. They arn't too expensive either though because they are rechargable are higher in price then the non-rechargable batteries you could get for your saber

awesome! thanks for the info! totally helped me out, ill know what to do for my grab bag on friday when it gets here

[Muddywilson]

I'm currently attempting to build a lightsaber and would like to know if i can charge the batteries that the ultra sabers website offers within the hilt or where i could get something i could set up this way, also i would like to purchase a recharge port to install if ultrasabers offer one i'd like to know, or where i could get one and also can i use the battery/speaker setup ultrasabers offer and recharge the batteries or where i could get something that works similarly.


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[Racona Nova]

Easiest way is just getting the recharge port setup if you want an in-hilt charge possibility.
You can ask at [email protected] if they can prepare your hilt for the recharge port and send you the port for your DIY project. I'm quite sure they will agree to do that for you.

[Darth Azuule]

Hey guys! Sorry if this question has been answered already but how long should I let the batteries charge? Last time I took them out once the light turned green but the saber didn't last long after that.

[sedstiskyfaller]

Hey guys! Sorry if this question has been answered already but how long should I let the batteries charge? Last time I took them out once the light turned green but the saber didn't last long after that.

The charger is designed to stop charging once they are fully charged, so you won't get any more juice out of them by leaving them longer. It is typical for them to last 2-4 hrs. on average, but if they are going out very quickly then there might be a problem with them.

[Darth Dyracus]

So there are four options of battery configuration when selecting a saber with sound:  buckpuck with batteries and charger, buckpuck with just batteries, resistor with batteries and charger, or just resistor with batteries.

What's the best option if you factor in cost efficiency?
And what is the universal charger?  What's the difference between getting batteries and charger or just batteries?

[Racona Nova]

Best options are definitely the BuckPuck configurations. They work more precisely than the resistors, you have much less heat development and a more constant current to the LED (both extend your LED's lifetime), leading to more energy efficiency and thus, cost efficiency (in regards of charging - you need less charging cycles because the batteries last longer in a BuckPuck config).

The Universal Charger from US is a two-battery Li-Ion battery charging cradle, either for charging spare Li-Ion batteries or the batteries that have been removed from the hilt. The other charging option is the Recharge Port setup which allows you to charge the Li-Ions while they're in the hilt.

The difference is just that you either get the Universal Charger with your saber or not You can always order it separately from Ultrasabers, but it's cheaper to get it directly with your saber. So better stick to the 'BuckPuck with batteries and charger' option!

I always recommend taking a Universal charger (for charging spare Li-Ions) and, if money allows it, also the Recharge Port with the 1.2A Fast Charger.

[stell869]

I recently ordered a saber with the standard setup. This may be a silly question but what are the downsides of this compared to the Li-Ion setup? This saber won't have sound so I'm just curious if the LED won't be as bright or if the Li-Ion batteries would last longer. Basically, are there any performance differences? Thanks!