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Airk Tobruk
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« on: September 30, 2013, 06:47:53 PM »

Can anyone, experienced with the form or otherwise, offer an opinion as to why Shii Cho is called the way of the Sarlacc?
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2013, 07:40:52 PM »

I believe it's linked to its 'third' name - the Determination form. The Sarlacc doesn't quit once it engages with its meal; It just silently digests it, not letting it escape at all. Similarly, the Shii Cho user doesn't do anything fancy, they just use unrelenting, simple attacks, never (in theory) giving their opponent the chance to regroup and try a different attack.
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2013, 09:05:04 PM »

I believe it's linked to its 'third' name - the Determination form. The Sarlacc doesn't quit once it engages with its meal; It just silently digests it, not letting it escape at all. Similarly, the Shii Cho user doesn't do anything fancy, they just use unrelenting, simple attacks, never (in theory) giving their opponent the chance to regroup and try a different attack.

Like a bulldozer on the battlefield.  Smiley

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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2013, 10:13:44 PM »

I believe it's linked to its 'third' name - the Determination form. The Sarlacc doesn't quit once it engages with its meal; It just silently digests it, not letting it escape at all. Similarly, the Shii Cho user doesn't do anything fancy, they just use unrelenting, simple attacks, never (in theory) giving their opponent the chance to regroup and try a different attack.

Yes, this I'd definitely agree with. Sarlacc's are indefatigable, relentless and determined; hence "the determination form". I suppose the Form name (rather than the animal) could also be linked to it being a padawan learner starting point, the learning of which will allow Masters to "determine" the suitability and likelihood of success of each padawan.
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2013, 10:26:23 PM »

Yes, this I'd definitely agree with. Sarlacc's are indefatigable, relentless and determined; hence "the determination form". I suppose the Form name (rather than the animal) could also be linked to it being a padawan learner starting point, the learning of which will allow Masters to "determine" the suitability and likelihood of success of each padawan.

I like your take on this Arkanus. I'd never thought of a master using the form to 'determine' how well his/her padawan could do. Perhaps the form could also be used to instill determination into a padawan as well.

My own take on the reason for Shii Cho being the Way of the Sarlacc is the patience aspect. Just as a Sarlacc must be patient and wait for it's next meal to get close enough, a padawan must also exercise patience to avoid any accidental self dismemberment while learning the form.
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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2013, 01:23:52 AM »

I like your take on this Arkanus. I'd never thought of a master using the form to 'determine' how well his/her padawan could do. Perhaps the form could also be used to instill determination into a padawan as well.

My own take on the reason for Shii Cho being the Way of the Sarlacc is the patience aspect. Just as a Sarlacc must be patient and wait for it's next meal to get close enough, a padawan must also exercise patience to avoid any accidental self dismemberment while learning the form.

Yes indeed, Form I teaches the basics of how to handle the weapon safely. The finesse and control (as well as power, speed and all the other good stuff) comes later, as the padawan moves through the other forms.

This I am learning myself, as a TPLA LX.
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« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2013, 04:27:44 AM »

Like a bulldozer on the battlefield.  Smiley



While some of the Masters and I have our different takes on Shii Cho, that's generally how I've put it. It's not fancy, it's not sophisticated, but it's fluid and dogged and is meant to cut a hole through whatever is in it's path.
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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2013, 04:30:12 AM »

While some of the Masters and I have our different takes on Shii Cho, that's generally how I've put it. It's not fancy, it's not sophisticated, but it's fluid and dogged and is meant to cut a hole through whatever is in it's path.

More like a cauterized chasm through enemy forces
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« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2013, 04:34:08 AM »

More like a cauterized chasm through enemy forces

Mmm, cauterized meat chasms
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« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2013, 04:44:15 AM »

While some of the Masters and I have our different takes on Shii Cho, that's generally how I've put it. It's not fancy, it's not sophisticated, but it's fluid and dogged and is meant to cut a hole through whatever is in it's path.

It was probably the TPLA video that I heard you on then.

Mmm, cauterized meat chasms

Sounds like a death metal band.  Cheesy
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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2013, 05:03:32 AM »

Mmm, cauterized meat chasms

Nom, nom!!! "Cauterized meat Chasms", I knew there was a reason I'm a Shii-Cho stylist (mainly!)

You do realise that, add a "y" in there, and you have an advert for Dog Food?

"Cauterized Meaty Chasms". lol
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« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2013, 08:40:37 AM »

Lol this conversation is brilliant, and gives me some insight into how Shii Cho is perceived.  Points all round! :-)
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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2013, 04:06:37 PM »

While some of the Masters and I have our different takes on Shii Cho, that's generally how I've put it. It's not fancy, it's not sophisticated, but it's fluid and dogged and is meant to cut a hole through whatever is in it's path.

I tend to agree.  I always figured the Sarlacc title for the Form referred to the Sarlacc's nature - simple and destructive, patiently destroying the opponent over a thousand years (though hopefully your duel doesn't last that long).  The Sarlacc doesn't use a fancy strategy or camouflage or the skills of other predators, it simply wants for you to get to it and then it eats you... doesn't get more simple and straightforward than that!
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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2013, 05:53:12 PM »

I tend to agree.  I always figured the Sarlacc title for the Form referred to the Sarlacc's nature - simple and destructive, patiently destroying the opponent over a thousand years (though hopefully your duel doesn't last that long).  The Sarlacc doesn't use a fancy strategy or camouflage or the skills of other predators, it simply wants for you to get to it and then it eats you... doesn't get more simple and straightforward than that!

Haha, you know Master, I'd never quite thought of it like that! So true!
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