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« on: December 26, 2013, 10:06:05 PM »


Unless you’ve been living in a log cabin trying to avoid all things pop-culture for the last few months, then you know that Wonder Woman is soon going to be making her official feature-film debut, and that she will be played by none other than Fast & Furious 6 actress, Gal Gadot.

The casting of Gadot and announcement of Wonder Woman’s debut in the upcoming Batman vs. Superman sequel to Man of Steel has elicited quite an… impassioned response from fans, critics, and pretty much everyone except the people who probably have more right than anyone to address the issue; in other words, the ladies who have played (or will play) Wonder Woman.

First of all, check out what Gal Gadot had to say in her first interview (via Batman-News) since being cast in the role of Wonder Woman – addressing all the criticisms (and outright hate) that has been tossed her way:


Regarding those crass comments about the required bust size for the role:

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Hmm. I represent the Wonder Women of the new world. Breasts… anyone can buy for 9,000 shekels [Ed: Israeli currency] and everything is fine. By the way, Wonder Woman is amazonian, and historically accurate amazonian women actually had only one breast. So, if I’d really go “by the book”…it’d be problematic.

Regarding her training regiment for the role:

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It’s the physical preparations that I’m starting now. A very serious training regime – Kung Fu, kickboxing, swords, jujutsu, Brazilian…1,000 and 1 things…I’ll gain body mass.

We’ve pointed out (ad nauseam) that – while she may look very thin in movies like F&F6 - Gal Gadot’s casting actually makes sense. She was once enlisted in the Israeli Defense Force, where she served as an athletic trainer. Not only does that make her equipped to handle a strenuous training regiment, and adapt at learning different deadly combat techniques, it also means she has knowledge in experience with the specific types of training that result in things like body mass vs. lean muscle.

Gadot is also right in pointing out the absurdity of the Amazon argument. People keeping trying to lay claim to which actresses are (or are not) qualified to play the mythical female warriors – but Amazons are just that, mythical, as in not real – and to my own knowledge bust size was never one of their defining physical traits. Cutting off one breast to better fire arrows certainly was…

The point: If your knowledge of Amazons is limited to what you saw in a Wonder Woman comic book (which almost no one today still reads, BTW) then you are probably arguing for the fantasy of an ideal, rather than an ideal itself.

Wonder Women Lynda Carter & Gal Gadot

Meanwhile, former TV Wonder Woman (and 70s icon) Lynda Carter ironically enough seems to be the most positive voice out there regarding this new casting. Check out what she had to say to Metro UK:

Regarding Gal Gadot bringing a new version of Wonder Woman to the screen:

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I care more about the character continuing than holding on to my piece of it. I hope she has fun with it.

Regarding what it is about Wonder Woman that helps her endure as an icon (SPOILER: it’s not body type!):

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There’s an identification factor. She’s not your average superhero. It’s not so much about her super powers as it is about her ethic. I always thought of her as a figure who stands for what’s right. We all know what’s wrong with the world today, so maybe we need her right now.

Let all the so-called fans and “defenders” of Wonder Woman take note of that; it’s not what’s on the outside but on the inside that defines the character. Sure, some degree of physical resemblance is always expected; but hopefully, Zack Snyder saw something about Gadot’s attitude and poise that made him recognize a quality Wonder Woman in her.

Finally: One thing that’s been unclear in all this heated debate about who is cast as Wonder Woman is just how much Wonder Woman we’ll be getting in the film! Is it a major arc? A minor arc? A button-cameo at the end? Well, one thing is certain: a growing number of fans are concerned that there won’t be much room left in this film for that Superman guy.


However, the other side of that same argument is that by having so many DC heavy-hitters in one film (Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman all confirmed, so far), the new heroes won’t be given adequate time to establish themselves. So how does Carter feel about Wonder Woman having to share her debut with two of the big boys?

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…maybe that’s better. She won’t have to carry the whole film. It takes the pressure off. I wish her well. I’m just glad she’s going to be out there again. Maybe she’ll get her own show again.”

Right now, honestly, there are still too many unknowns to freak out all that much about this Wonder Woman/ Batman vs. Superman issue. However, after two recent stalled attempts to launch Wonder Woman onto TV screens, Carter’s hopes for a new show probably won’t come to fruition anytime soon.

As for Gadot? Personally, I like the frankness of her responses and the seeming confidence behind them. Can’t wait to see what the training regiment results are.

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Batman vs. Superman (featuring Wonder Woman) will be in theaters on July 17, 2015.

Sources: Metro UK (via Coming Soon); Batman-News (via CBM)


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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2013, 04:49:53 PM »

There is no way to make this sound any better, but I really hope we get to see a fist fight between Clark and Diana at some point.

The best way to convince me that Gadot is WW, is have her clock Supes right in the Jaw. A fight not unlike the scuffle between Thor and Iron Man in 'The Avengers.' Bruce being the one that's all "Are you children done?"  Cheesy

All of that reads like I want to see a woman get hit, but the beauty of WW to me is that she can take a hit and dole it out.  Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2013, 02:49:19 AM »

I honestly don't care if a woman gets hit or not, but that's really just because it's all make-believe. Violence against anyone in real life is a big no-no for me.

As for the fight idea, I think it could work with the proper execution. It's just odd to imagine for some reason.
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« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2013, 03:24:13 AM »

I honestly don't care if a woman gets hit or not, but that's really just because it's all make-believe. Violence against anyone in real life is a big no-no for me.

As for the fight idea, I think it could work with the proper execution. It's just odd to imagine for some reason.

You already know I'm against physical violence in RL, there's no issue there.

Like you said though, "Execution is key."

Those that aren't familiar with comics aren't going to truly understand the inherent violence involved with superheroes (i.e. MoS). Maybe they are, I just don't want offend anyone that may be ignorant to this mythos; that's fine, this stuff doesn't interest everyone.

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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2013, 04:55:26 AM »

You already know I'm against physical violence in RL, there's no issue there.

Like you said though, "Execution is key."

Those that aren't familiar with comics aren't going to truly understand the inherent violence involved with superheroes (i.e. MoS). Maybe they are, I just don't want offend anyone that may be ignorant to this mythos; that's fine, this stuff doesn't interest everyone.



I didn't mean anything by it, I was just saying Smiley

What I meant by "odd to imagine" is that it just seems odd... the idea that Superman and Wonder Woman would get into a fist fight. I mean, I know there was that time when Hal Jordan provoked Wonder Woman into fighting him, but that's Hal. Superman would never do something like that. And for them to have any other reason to fight... I don't know, just seems weird to me. Unless you're talking about a "first encounter" deal, then yeah, it would make sense I think.

Oh wait, that is probably what you meant. Derp.
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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2013, 05:07:40 AM »

I'm very excited about this one. I like Gal's comment on the matter. I told you guys she'll be a great WW, and this is why.
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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2013, 05:15:32 AM »

I didn't mean anything by it, I was just saying Smiley

What I meant by "odd to imagine" is that it just seems odd... the idea that Superman and Wonder Woman would get into a fist fight. I mean, I know there was that time when Hal Jordan provoked Wonder Woman into fighting him, but that's Hal. Superman would never do something like that. And for them to have any other reason to fight... I don't know, just seems weird to me. Unless you're talking about a "first encounter" deal, then yeah, it would make sense I think.

Oh wait, that is probably what you meant. Derp.

No worries at all.  Smiley

I'm very excited about this one. I like Gal's comment on the matter. I told you guys she'll be a great WW, and this is why.


This will again sound somewhat misogynistic, but I can't wait to see what the training will transform her into; Henry Cavill was not built like Supes when they hired him, they made him humongous.
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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2013, 05:36:51 AM »

No worries at all.  Smiley


This will again sound somewhat misogynistic, but I can't wait to see what the training will transform her into; Henry Cavill was not built like Supes when they hired him, they made him humongous.

How is that misogynistic?
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« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2013, 06:00:53 AM »

How is that misogynistic?

I'm just trying to protect myself, I can't really relate my feelings on the matter in text and quite a few of the arguments leveled against Gadot sound incredibly sexist (most having to do with body/breast size).

The last thing I want to do is inadvertently categorize myself with that way of thinking.

I honestly didn't see her as WW when announced, but I also haven't seen her as WW; hopefulness is the best way I can describe it. I am not supremely critical of films, but if the illusion of the character isn't there (in any film) it detracts from the experience; that experience is very subjective.
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« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2013, 06:23:13 AM »

I'm just trying to protect myself, I can't really relate my feelings on the matter in text and quite a few of the arguments leveled against Gadot sound incredibly sexist (most having to do with body/breast size).

The last thing I want to do is inadvertently categorize myself with that way of thinking.

I honestly didn't see her as WW when announced, but I also haven't seen her as WW; hopefulness is the best way I can describe it, I'm not supremely critical of films.

Yeah, that's one of the biggest problems I have with most arguments. Saying she's too skinny, maybe, but who cares about her breast size. She is a fictional character, and AFAIC fictional characters should be cast mostly on personality(or ability to act certain personality) than physical appearance, unless a certain physical characteristic is an integral part of a character. Like a character needing to be a certain age, etc.
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« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2013, 03:53:36 PM »

You know, if she were about 15-20 years younger, I would cast Lucy Lawless (Xena: Warrior Princess) as Wonder Woman. Just putting my 2¢ in. But she would be great for the role of another Amazonian if there were a movie just for Wondie, the leader Hyppolita(?) would be awesome for Lucy Lawless to play!
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« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2013, 04:02:08 PM »

You know, if she were about 15-20 years younger, I would cast Lucy Lawless (Xena: Warrior Princess) as Wonder Woman. Just putting my 2¢ in. But she would be great for the role of another Amazonian if there were a movie just for Wondie, the leader Hyppolita(?) would be awesome for Lucy Lawless to play!

Interesting, Lawless would definitely fit well as Hippolyta, especially if you've ever watched the Spartacus series that she is in.
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« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2013, 04:14:24 PM »

Wonder Woman should be a guy.

On a serious note, the point about Amazons isn't worth crap. WW is part of the fictional Amazons, which is hardly related to the "actual" (to use a more accurate term, alleged. Since when did people talk about Amazons as fact?) tribe. That's like saying a scrawny kid could play Hercules because real Greek soldiers weren't necessarily that intimidating. Hercules isn't related to the actual Greek military, and the same goes for WW and the Amazons, although even moreso because WW wasn't even a part of Amazon mythology.

I don't have high hopes for the movie in general, but I'm neutral, if skeptical, about Gal.
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« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2013, 09:18:17 PM »



Let us be honest here...boobies catch ones attention but their are terrible actors and even worse singers.

Her face is quite pretty and classically beautiful.

A very pretty lady who looks to be able to pull off a fighter.

Most likely she will be given this outfit...





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I do not need or want Diana to look like a porn star with $20k invested in the boob zone.

Wonder Woman deserves to be treated with the respect and consideration the other supers have gotten...if it is a True Ms Universe Beauty Pageant movie well then by all means have her wear a skimpy outfit...though I suspect then the True Mr Universe Contest would also kick in close behind, and banana hammocks are just unwelcome in my wheelhouse.

Leave something to the imagination.

I like her for the choice.
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« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2013, 11:34:45 PM »

I hope when WW finally get her own film, they use some elements from her New 52 version.

HUGE SPOILER is you are interested in reading or haven't read yet.

Diana is found out to really be the daughter of Zeus instead of being made from a wish from the Gods to Queen Hippolyta. Later Ares dies and she fills his spot as God of War.
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