Seven Forms of Lightsaber Combat: A Discourse

[KashiAtaru]

Alright, so I have a question

I've been thinking of this for a while now, and I wanted to get your take on it all. I wanted to do a video guide for this paper. By that I mean a look at the form, including showing martial arts examples, as well as looking at people within the community and interview them on it. It wouldn't be for money () and it wouldn't be me saying THESE ARE THE FORMS, BOW, but try and show what I attempted to write. Would anyone be interested in that?

I'm also a film editor if you need any help with some cuts.-Kashi

[Solinus]

Count me in as well.

[Veldryne]

Alright, so I have a question

I've been thinking of this for a while now, and I wanted to get your take on it all. I wanted to do a video guide for this paper. By that I mean a look at the form, including showing martial arts examples, as well as looking at people within the community and interview them on it. It wouldn't be for money () and it wouldn't be me saying THESE ARE THE FORMS, BOW, but try and show what I attempted to write. Would anyone be interested in that?

Sounds like a great idea mate, cant wait to see the finished version. You could do a kickstarter project for it to get more budget, and advertise it on all the led saber forums.

[Viourr]

Fantastic info dude, major props, I would also love to see a video, keep it come this stuff is gold.
PS to author, thanks for being okay with the prints, a hard copy will come in handy

[Master Uilos]

Fantastic info dude, major props, I would also love to see a video, keep it come this stuff is gold.
PS to author, thanks for being okay with the prints, a hard copy will come in handy

Again, the price of printing is to discuss what you've learned.

[DarthThantos]

cool. im personally a juyo/makashi user how do u jedi control ur emotions in a fight?

[Master Rel]

cool. im personally a juyo/makashi user how do u jedi control ur emotions in a fight?

Hmmm...I'll take this one, from my side anyway...because a fight is no different than a chess match or cooking a large meal...there are elements that must be managed, focus must be maintained, and there are stages to be processed.

If you lose control, well the fight is over...if you go all emotional and crazy and win, then you would have won anyway but now you have to deal with the excess energy and chemical signals...

All that and in a fight or more precise a duel the emotion at hand mostly will be a measure of fear...it will most likely be in the form of apprehension or anxiety, but this still leads to a destructive energy.

Better to stay calm and focused, clear minded, and just deal with the issues at hand...

[Volund Starfire]

cool. im personally a juyo/makashi user how do u jedi control ur emotions in a fight?

Prozac.

Being from an Aikido background, I consider myself a Master of Form 0.  “The best way to win a fight is to not be there when it begins,” is what my first sensei told us all the time.  However, you can’t really demonstrate Form 0 and make it look all flashy.

For that reason, I am learning the ways of Form I: Shii-Cho.  Everyone says that Shii-Cho is just a beginner form, but the same can be said for all martial forms until you get past the beginning stages.  Being Aikido, I am drawn slightly toward your descriptions of Form V: Shien.  However, there is some little things that I do not entirely agree with regarding those.

As for Shii-Cho, even Jedi Masters specialized in it (Master Kit Fisto, for one).  However, the true sign of Mastery is to take something and make it your own; adding your own flare and knowledge to build an art.  For me, I plan to do so by demonstrating it in a Dynamic Sphere.  Also, learning Shii-Cho for the use of other weapons, such as a saberpike, saberstaff, and twin shoto sabers.

Finally, spinning.  I believe that spinning is essential to lightsaber forms.  It is not just flashy and showy, it has a practical purpose.  It limbers the wrists, teaches blocking and striking principles, and aids with misdirection.  Anyone who has ever dueled knows the pain that can come from tight muscles.  Even basic kata work without proper stretching can hurt.  Moving the saber quickly from one zone to another to block is a necessity whether dueling one person or many.  Finally, with a twirling blade, who knows where the attack will come from… only your choreography partner.

[Viourr]

Hmmm...I'll take this one, from my side anyway...because a fight is no different than a chess match or cooking a large meal...there are elements that must be managed, focus must be maintained, and there are stages to be processed.

If you lose control, well the fight is over...if you go all emotional and crazy and win, then you would have won anyway but now you have to deal with the excess energy and chemical signals...

All that and in a fight or more precise a duel the emotion at hand mostly will be a measure of fear...it will most likely be in the form of apprehension or anxiety, but this still leads to a destructive energy.

Better to stay calm and focused, clear minded, and just deal with the issues at hand...

I would have to argue this point, I know the original question was issued to jedi's style, but from a sith point of view you shouldn't underestimate you passion, focus is good, but you should focus the rage and anger of the situation to increase you potential.
Never underestimate the power of concentrating your rage

[Master Rel]

Here is the problem with fueling your efforts with rage...adrenaline dump.

The issue is the spike eventually drops and then its all concrete legs, blood pressure swings, and related.

 

[Viourr]

your assuming it ends, let it be a never ending torrent my friend

[Veldryne]

Playing a sith character is one thing. But applying those sith tendencies to saber play is dangerous. You can and will hurt someone doing it that way.

Many members have expressed their reluctance to duel someone focusing on sith variants of vaapad for this very reason.

The way of the saber thread is really for us to share ideas about how to interpret the forms and build lightsaber fighting styles for display and light dueling.

These are weapons, every but as dangerous as a solid oak bokken. If you start "hulking out" with one in your hands you are a danger to yourself abd any potential dueling or choreography parts.

Acting like a sith, ie pretending to be one during a public display is fine but it's just that: acting.

This is one type of performance art that method acting should absolutely never be used in.

We have other threads we can discuss Jedi/sith/barranco/potentium/jenseerai philosophy in.

[Master Rel]

This...but you just just gestured to all of me...lol

[Master Lucien Kane]

Berserk style fighters have been employed to great success throughout the years, but the problem is they become a danger to their own team as well as the other side. Not to mention they're a danger to themselves. They're just dangerous.

I've fought as a Sith personae a few times... Make sure to put the foam on the blades so it's safer... It's intimidating, and wild, and dangerous, but my experience has always been that someone who is in control. Guiding themselves, not being torn in a million different direction by their emotions will have a more solid base of power to draw from

You will never rise to the occasion, you will always fall back on your training.

That being said drawing from your anger can work. With respect to sparring it's dangerous because you can actually hurt someone.

[Darth Nonymous]

To all Sith: Flying into blind rages is not the way of the Darkside. That is Jedi superstition. They underestimate us. LET them.