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Author Topic: Saber customizations, that make them look more like they do on screen.  (Read 79354 times)
BlindJedi
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« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2015, 12:29:16 AM »

I'm betting everyone is wondering which sabers I plan to purchase, well my list is below..
I'm planning to get adjustable couplers for the staffs, because I'm a little OCD, and both parts of the staff need to line up.
Some of the sabers are meant for duel wielding.
Film Inspired:
1 - Guardian - Guardian Blue.
1 - Consular - Consular Green.
dOUBLE bLADED - Menace - Blazing Red.
1 - Prophecy - Guardian Blue.
1 - Graflex - Guardian Blue, Episode 3 style.
1 - Chosen One - Blazing Red, Episode 3, with a bit of 4, 5, and 6 for good measure.
1 - Arbiter - Guardian Blue.
1 - Archon V2.1 - Consular Green.
Below are sabers I don't concider to be based on anything cannon, or what is current cannon.
Unless a saber appears in the movies, Rebels, or The Clone Wars, I don't concider it to be cannon.
Dark Jedi:
2 - Dark Liberators - Fire Orange.
Double blade - Dark Standard Issue - Fire Orange.
Sith:
1 - Dark War Glaive- Blazing Red.
2 - Dark Mantis - Blazing Red - Each will have a different Pommel.
1 - Dark Monarch - Blazing Red.
Double Bladed - Dark Prophecy - Blazing Red.
1 - Bane - Blazing Red.
1 - Malice - Blazing Red.
Jedi:
2 - Scorpion - Violet Amethyst.
1 - Reaper - gUARDIAN bLUE.
1 - Overlord - SunRiders Destiny.
Double Bladed - Manticore  - Consular Green.
Double Bladed - Bellicose - ArcticBlue.
2 - Ravens - Guardian Blue.
2 - Sentinal V4 LE (Staff) - Consuler Green.  Pleas recommend different pommels.
Double Blade - Apprentice V4 LE Staff - Consuler Green.
2 - Phantasm LE V4 (Staff) - Guardian Blue.  Please recommend different pommels.
Double Blade - Phantasm Initiate  LE V4 Staff - Guardian Blue.
2 - Dark Sentinal V4 LE (Staff) - Guardian Blue.  Please recommend different pommels.
Double Blade -Dark Apprentice V4 LE Staff - Guardian Blue.
2 - Phantom V4 LE (Staff) - Consuler green.  Please recommend different pommels.
Double blade - Phantom Iniciate  V4 LE Staff - Consuler Green.
1 - Shock - Dark Violet Amethyst.
1 - Shock LE - Sentinel Yellow.
1 - Dark Shock - Emerald Green.
2 - Dark Menace - Consular Green.  Please recommend different pommels.
1 - Dark Arbiter - Violet Amethyst.
1- Monarch - Guardian Blue.
Double Bladed - Standard Issue - White.
Not sure about:
1 - Renegade - Not sure what color yet.
1 - Flamberge - Not sure what color yet.
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« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2015, 07:25:22 AM »

Chilly, your descriptions really did help. The Sabres I'm most interested in are the Graflex, Raven, bellicose, menace, and the chosen one.
 I'm interested in most Sabres that you mentioned, but the ones I've listed above are the ones I have the most questions about, especially their hilts.
 As for my vision, in short it sucks. I can see light and shadows at this point. So that is why I got interested in Ultrasabers. Because I can see the blades. 

i only see out of one eye and i have blood particles that float around in my good eye, ultrasabers are great for visually challenged people since they are very bright and it helps a lot to see what is happening
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« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2015, 05:03:38 AM »

i only see out of one eye and i have blood particles that float around in my good eye, ultrasabers are great for visually challenged people since they are very bright and it helps a lot to see what is happening
I'm sorry to hear that.
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BlindJedi
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« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2015, 11:34:04 PM »

I'd like to thank everyone for their amazing answers thus far, but I have a few more questions.
I'm basing my information of the sabers accuracy on the toy versions I had back in the 90s.  So my information may be a little off.  This is mostly because I could never see the finer details on screen.
Lets start with the blade depth.  Can anyone tell me the blade depths of all of US's sabers?
It would be nice to know how deep the blade sits in the hilts so I can order a blade that works with said hilt.
Next, can anyone tell me the difference between the Sentinel, Aeon, and Dominix?
Can anyone help me find a new pommel for the Sentinel, Aeon, Dominix, Apprentice, and Initiate sabers?
Basically what would look good on the sabers listed above.
As for claws, do most sabers with them, have them attached to the emitters?
Now a really specific question about the Reaper.  Is there a way to align the twop and bottom claws, with the saber, and make it look good?
The slanted pommel and emitter would bug the crap out of me, if they weren't aligned.
Ok, some movie questions about the Arbiter and Archon V2.1.
Do both of these sabers look close enough to the movie versions to fool people?
If I remember correctly, the Arbiter had a black grip, and an activation box on its mid section.  Actually the Archon had the activation box in the same place.  Both shared a lot of the same parts.  Emitter, pommel, and overall body shapes were the same on the toys.  Is this true for the US versions?
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BlindJedi
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« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2015, 10:07:12 PM »

What would need to be done to the Prophecy to make it look more like Anikin's saber from Episode 2?
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« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2015, 10:34:57 PM »

Painting the center raised section black, attaching a black activation box to that center section, and filling in the rear handle grooves with some grip material (the slimmer Mace Windu style rubbber grips should fit the slots) would be about as close as you can get with a Prophecy. T-track grip like what's on the Graflex and Chosen One would be more accurate, technically, but the Prophecy grip is already too wide as it is, so the slimmer grip style would flow better with the saber as US produces it.

However, the Episode 2 saber was designed as a slimmer, light-side interpretation of Vader's hilt. If you're going to be modifying a hilt anyway, a blue-blade Chosen One works as a base with the appropriate detailing, just with a slightly thicker diameter than the Episode 2 saber. To turn a Chosen One into Anakin's first saber, you'd just need to pop off the emitter shroud, file off the hard corners, and sand off the rest of the black finish. Pop the now-silver emitter back on, and you're good to go.
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BlindJedi
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« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2015, 11:01:33 PM »

I'm not exactly sure where to find the grips you mentioned.
Plus I am not much for painting, given the vision thing and all.
I'm also surprised that no one has answered my questions about the Reaper, Arbiter, Archon, or any of the other questions I asked a few days ago. 
But, I do appreciate the answers I've gotton thus far.  You are all amazing individuals, and you all deserve force points.  Which I've added to your posts already.
Thank you guys again.  And may the Force be with you always.
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« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2015, 02:08:59 PM »

Ah, missed that post. Let me see what I can sort out~

Can't really comment on blade depth. It seems to vary about 1-2", depending on the emitter. As far as blade length, I've only ever used mid-grade blades, and as a 6ft guy, I really like 32" blades for one-handed sabers and 36" for two-handed. When goofing around in the house, I've no problems with a 32" blade, but the 36" tends to bump into the floor and ceiling.

Aeon and Dominix are always the same hilt in their series - Aeon is just raw silver aluminum while Dominix is anodized black.

Sentinel and Dominix vary in the detailing, but size and proportions are similar since they're machined from the same aluminum blank. On the pommel-end grips, Sentinels tend to have many very small, closely-spaced ridges detailing the grip. Imagine the teeth of a comb wrapped around the hilt. The Aeon/Dominix tend to have fewer, deeper, more widely spaced grooves machined around the the lower grip.

Based on past reading, the V3 hilts seem to be more comfortable, while the V4 have more room for electronics. V3 can have Sound or Emerald, while V4 can have both installed at once.

Finding a  new pommel is personal stylistic choice. Only thing I'd really recommend is, if you're getting those sabers with sound, to avoid the basic vented pommels, as they leave a gaping hole where you might accidentally reach in and poke a hole in the speaker. Any of the premium pommels have a vented cover to let sound out while protecting the speaker. I don't have time now, but digging around the forum, there are posts about which pommels offer the best sound or offer nice counterweights to the blade.

Claws are typically installed on the emitter, but I think the Scorpion might be an exception. As far as I can tell, it seems attached to the body with a screw that's only accessible while the blade is removed.

As for the Reaper, it looks like the slanted pommel is made in two parts - a threaded portion that screws into the body, and the slanted portion that can rotate separately from the threads and locked into position with a set screw. Should be no issue to align with the emitter.

Arbiter is a tough call. It's got a flat-topped Obi-Wan-like emitter and the grenade section underneath, as well as the right pommel. However, it's missing the neck and the body under the grenade section looks to be about 3-4 inches too long to really pass as an Obi Wan.

Archon 2.1 and Archon 3 are both based on the Luke Episode 6 saber, which itself was based on the less-detailed stunt version of Obi Wan's Episode 4 saber. The Archon V3 has a brass neck similar to Obi Wan's Hero saber, while the V2.1 has a black neck similar to Luke's Stunt saber (which actually sees more screen time than Luke's Hero prop). Perhaps you might want the V2.1 in Consular Green and V3 in Guardian Blue for Luke's and Obi-Wan's sabers?

Neither of the Archon models have the activation box installed on the hilt, but there is enough space to install replica Graflex clamps that look just like the original props. I'd offer more specific help, but the appropriate clamps, circuit boards, and bubble strips need to be purchased from competitor sites that I can't link to. On the other hand, I think the US Graflex activation box and clamp would look nice in that spot, but I don't think Ultra Sabers is willing to drill a hole in that part of the hilt, and the ribbed section prevents properly screwing a box over the existing switch.
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« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2015, 04:31:09 AM »

Well, I have a couple more questions.
First, are the grips on the Graflex, and Chosen One glued on, or is there another method being used to attach them?
I just want to know if there is any chance of them falling off.
Second, I was reading some of the saber descriptions and came accross the Malice Square Pommel, and was wondering, what makes it square?
Finally, which blade type is best for video, and photos?
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« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2015, 01:16:49 PM »

I don't own either hilt, but my understanding is the US Graflex and Chosen One grips are attached similarly to a Force FX hilt. Rather than just being adhered to the surface, the hilt has holes machined into it under each grip so that the grips are mechanically secured from the inside.

Malice Square Pommels are named as such because they're basically cubes that screw into the saber, rather than the more cylindrical nature of most pommels. On top of that, each of the four edges parallel with the hilt are embellished with what I can best describe as rectangular pillars, giving the square pommel an "X" shape when viewed from below.

Either of the mid-grade blade options will prove brightest for the camera for the simple fact that the light has less material to travel through. Something really neat about these sabers is that, in-person, they have a vibrant blade in whatever color you select. However, on camera, the light is so intense you get the movie effect of a white blade with a colored aura.

Between the two colors, standard mid-grade blades are truer to the color of the LED, but the clear polycarbonate doesn't diffuse light, so you wind up with something akin to a thinner lightsaber beam with a clear forcefield surrounding it. The ultra-edge mid-grade blade is made with a diffusing white polycarbonate, so the color stretches from edge-to-edge, producing a fuller blade. The trade off in this scenario is the colors are *slightly* affected by the  white material, producing somewhat more pastel colors. They're not washed out, by any means, but just noticeably different when put side-by-side against a standard blade. Either blade photographs really well.
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« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2015, 03:49:17 AM »

Do the Archon and Arbiter share an emitter?
If so, can the neck from the Archon be added to the Arbiter?
Keep up the awesome answers guys.
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« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2015, 04:43:21 AM »

This is an awesome thread. I am even more blown away that there is another leagaly  blind saber enthusiast!what are the odds?
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« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2015, 04:53:58 AM »

This is an awesome thread. I am even more blown away that there is another leagaly  blind saber enthusiast!what are the odds?
I use to think the ods were not good, but I'm starting to think there are more legally blind saber enthusiasts out there, than I had originally thought..
I'm also hoping that this thread, and possibly others in the future, along with the amazing forum members will help out those legally blind individuals, like me.
So may the force be with you always.
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BlindJedi
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« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2015, 04:15:20 AM »

Do the Archon and Arbiter share an emitter?
If so, can the neck from the Archon be added to the Arbiter?
Keep up the awesome answers guys.
I had a few things to add to this post, but didn't think of them at the time.
Is it possible to get an Archon with a granade grip?
Is it possible to have the neck section anadized in gold?
Because if either of these are possible, I think that would be my new Obi-Wan saber, and the Arbiter could be on the shelf as just some random saber.
Thanks again guys.
May the force be with you always.
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« Reply #29 on: December 22, 2015, 03:52:06 AM »

Archon and Arbiter use different emitters. Necks not interchangeable.

Archon not available with grenade section. Only the Luke and stunt-style rings.

Archon V3 neck is gold on the emitter-half, black on the body-half.
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