Sith Academy: Korriban

[Darth Calon]

And I completely agree with Logos, Zannah is the absolute best example of how a saberstaff should be used.  Maul is probably the worst I can think of.  The saberstaff is best used as a defensive weapon, not an offensive one.

Which is odd, I would imagine Maul is a very offensive fighter.

Duel of the Fates was pretty good. Not as good, but pretty good.


So he manages to sever only Vader's remaining natural limbs and completely miss his previously damaged right arm? ô¿o

Duel of the Fates is my second favourite lightsaber duel so far. Too bad Maul didn't win. Always wondered how the prequels would have played out if he killed Obi-Wan.

He didn't want to make it too hard on Palpatine's droids.

That made me think of this:

*droid voices*

"We're almost done connecting Vader's suit to his remains."

"We've encountered a problem, he lost his right hand again."

"Oh come on. Stupid Jedi."

[Vivectius]

Which is odd, I would imagine Maul is a very offensive fighter.

He is.  Which is why he lost. Too many people forget that a saberstaff is, in functional terms, really a single bladed weapon.  Which, other than choreography reasons, is why Maul had to keep separating Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon.  He didn't know how to use the staff defensively, and couldn't cope with more than one opponent at a time.  Fighting cooperatively, Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon should have beaten him.  Unfortunately, jedi had long discarded the saberstaff (with a few exceptions, like Krell), so they didn't know how to effectively fight around it. In Universe, the jedi came to consider the saberstaff as "too offensive" a weapon, which is ironic given that it's put to best use defensively.

I will give Maul credit for using the "terrain" to separate and keep separated Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon.  If you cannot beat them together, try fighting them separately.

Useless Maul trivia:  the only time we see Maul blink in the entire movie is when Obi-Wan cuts him in half.

Last thing to consider regarding the Obi-Wan/Vader Mustafar duel, in a comparison to the Obi-Wan/Maul duel: having the high ground doesn't help if you don't remember to cut your opponent.  Vader tries to jump, gets cut down.  Obi-Wan jumps over Maul, doesn't get cut down.  And he didn't go that high over him either.  Seriously, all Maul had to do was stick out his Lightsaber, and Obi-Wan would have bisected himself vertically as he jumped.  So the high ground is only an advantage if you use it.

[Taegin Roan]

  And he didn't go that high over him either. 

No he didn't, he was jumping with his arm strength.

[Darth Calon]

He is.  Which is why he lost. Too many people forget that a saberstaff is, in functional terms, really a single bladed weapon.  Which, other than choreography reasons, is why Maul had to keep separating Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon.  He didn't know how to use the staff defensively, and couldn't cope with more than one opponent at a time.  Fighting cooperatively, Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon should have beaten him.  Unfortunately, jedi had long discarded the saberstaff (with a few exceptions, like Krell), so they didn't know how to effectively fight around it. In Universe, the jedi came to consider the saberstaff as "too offensive" a weapon, which is ironic given that it's put to best use defensively.

I will give Maul credit for using the "terrain" to separate and keep separated Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon.  If you cannot beat them together, try fighting them separately.

Useless Maul trivia:  the only time we see Maul blink in the entire movie is when Obi-Wan cuts him in half.

You're making good sense.

Last thing to consider regarding the Obi-Wan/Vader Mustafar duel, in a comparison to the Obi-Wan/Maul duel: having the high ground doesn't help if you don't remember to cut your opponent.  Vader tries to jump, gets cut down.  Obi-Wan jumps over Maul, doesn't get cut down.  And he didn't go that high over him either.  Seriously, all Maul had to do was stick out his Lightsaber, and Obi-Wan would have bisected himself vertically as he jumped.  So the high ground is only an advantage if you use it.

Yeah, but the "good guys" have to win, so of course Maul won't think if that.

No he didn't, he was jumping with his arm strength.

Um, no. The Force was heavily involved in that "jump".

[Darth Logos]

He is.  Which is why he lost. Too many people forget that a saberstaff is, in functional terms, really a single bladed weapon.  Which, other than choreography reasons, is why Maul had to keep separating Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon.  He didn't know how to use the staff defensively, and couldn't cope with more than one opponent at a time.  Fighting cooperatively, Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon should have beaten him.  Unfortunately, jedi had long discarded the saberstaff (with a few exceptions, like Krell), so they didn't know how to effectively fight around it. In Universe, the jedi came to consider the saberstaff as "too offensive" a weapon, which is ironic given that it's put to best use defensively.

I will give Maul credit for using the "terrain" to separate and keep separated Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon.  If you cannot beat them together, try fighting them separately.

Useless Maul trivia:  the only time we see Maul blink in the entire movie is when Obi-Wan cuts him in half.

Maul used a staff because his Master commanded it. So he would have had to be proficient with it in all cases. The difference in technique between him and Zannah could easily been accounted for by the mere fact that he is built stronger.

No he didn't, he was jumping with his arm strength.

[ithekro]

From what I remember, Maul used a staff because he kept getting beated by a reclusive Jedi with a staff when he was still using only a one bladed weapon.  He then forged a duplicated of his on weapon and merged them into this double bladed lightsaber and was able to catch the Jedi offguard and kill him.    To reflect on the 4,000 years gone Sith Lord  Exar Kun.

[Taegin Roan]

Um, no. The Force was heavily involved in that "jump".

Yes I know, but you still wouldn't have as much power in your jump if you were using your arms as you would with your legs.

[Darth Logos]

From what I remember, Maul used a staff because he kept getting beated by a reclusive Jedi with a staff when he was still using only a one bladed weapon.  He then forged a duplicated of his on weapon and merged them into this double bladed lightsaber and was able to catch the Jedi offguard and kill him.    To reflect on the 4,000 years gone Sith Lord  Exar Kun.

Uh.........................<_<

What generic discount store are you shopping for EU?

[ithekro]

Uh.........................<_<

What generic discount store are you shopping for EU?

Star Wars Tales #10 (Dark Horse Comics)
Story:  Nameless
December 2001

[Darth Logos]

Star Wars Tales #10 (Dark Horse Comics)
Story:  Nameless
December 2001

Yeah......no. I give comics as much credit for having convincing storylines as I do the cartoons.

Read Shadow Hunter.

[Darth Calon]

Yes I know, but you still wouldn't have as much power in your jump if you were using your arms as you would with your legs.

Does it matter when the Force is involved?

Read Shadow Hunter.

I really want to, but haven't yet. Have you read Maul: Lockdown?

[Darth Logos]

Does it matter when the Force is involved?

I really want to, but haven't yet. Have you read Maul: Lockdown?

No.

and No

Currently reading the Fate of the Jedi series. Looking forward to getting to Omen which involves the Sith from Lost Tribe.

[Darth Logos]

Does Sith Lightning last for durations beyond the wielder's control?

Referring to the Emperor cooking himself twice; once against Windu and the other during Vader's coup.

Also referencing Darth Bane's self-toasting at the end of Rule of Two.

[Taegin Roan]

Does Sith Lightning last for durations beyond the wielder's control?

Referring to the Emperor cooking himself twice; once against Windu and the other during Vader's coup.

Also referencing Darth Bane's self-toasting at the end of Rule of Two.

I think it does, but not for very long. When Sidious zaps Luke in ROTJ, after he stops, there is still electricity flowing through Luke. I don't think it is for very long though.

[Darth Logos]

I think it does, but not for very long. When Sidious zaps Luke in ROTJ, after he stops, there is still electricity flowing through Luke. I don't think it is for very long though.

Not what I'm asking