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« Reply #255 on: July 29, 2020, 02:08:43 PM »

if your trying to "simply " clear your mind thats just about practice ( one of the early ways i was taught was to stare into a candle flame then later put the candle flame just in my mind )  but in SW and this would be pure conjecture on my part, The Master would assign the padawan mental practice drills to help to connect with the force. we saw in new hope how obi wan had luke reach out and  feel the remote then once luke got a sense of that obi wan put the helmet on him. I could get all metaphorical and such but i will refrain

Just noticed this.  It would be interesting to see if there's a difference in meditation-ability for people who hear a narrative voice in their head.  It comes to great surprise of those who have this, that others don't.  The whole "clear your mind" is a lot harder when your snarky commentator is in the room with you. In fact, it sounds just like something a non-internal-monologuer would come up with and expect everybody could do because of not realizing it exists.

https://www.iflscience.com/brain/people-are-weirded-out-to-discover-that-some-people-dont-have-an-internal-monologue/
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« Reply #256 on: July 29, 2020, 03:05:41 PM »

Just noticed this.  It would be interesting to see if there's a difference in meditation-ability for people who hear a narrative voice in their head.  It comes to great surprise of those who have this, that others don't.  The whole "clear your mind" is a lot harder when your snarky commentator is in the room with you. In fact, it sounds just like something a non-internal-monologuer would come up with and expect everybody could do because of not realizing it exists.

https://www.iflscience.com/brain/people-are-weirded-out-to-discover-that-some-people-dont-have-an-internal-monologue/


I have an internal monologue...in fact I have both.  But me and the asshole in my head (who just sounds like me but deeper) both agree on the meditation.  So my "mantra" is internal.  I worry about the physical and he takes care of the mental  (yep...sounds crazy Tongue).  Interesting topic though...never knew some people didn't speak to themselves.
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« Reply #257 on: July 29, 2020, 03:52:40 PM »

if your trying to "simply " clear your mind thats just about practice ( one of the early ways i was taught was to stare into a candle flame then later put the candle flame just in my mind )  but in SW and this would be pure conjecture on my part, The Master would assign the padawan mental practice drills to help to connect with the force. we saw in new hope how obi wan had luke reach out and  feel the remote then once luke got a sense of that obi wan put the helmet on him. I could get all metaphorical and such but i will refrain
Thanks for the memory jog. In the novelization of the Force Unleashed, Starkiller would stare into the blade of his lightsaber to meditate.

I have an internal monologue...in fact I have both.  But me and the asshole in my head (who just sounds like me but deeper) both agree on the meditation.  So my "mantra" is internal.  I worry about the physical and he takes care of the mental  (yep...sounds crazy Tongue).  Interesting topic though...never knew some people didn't speak to themselves.
You're not crazy, I have it too. But the asshole in my head believes that everyone wants to hear what he has to say. Undecided
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« Reply #258 on: July 29, 2020, 03:53:35 PM »

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« Reply #259 on: July 29, 2020, 05:30:58 PM »

Most likely it's just meditation. But being ADHD my mind is never clear.
tell me about it... lol
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« Reply #260 on: July 29, 2020, 06:53:36 PM »

tell me about it... lol
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« Reply #261 on: July 29, 2020, 07:54:04 PM »

You know my pain?
totally lol
why do you think I was asking how Jedi achieved and maintained a clear mind, wanted to see if any of it could be applied to me lol
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« Reply #262 on: July 29, 2020, 08:22:47 PM »

totally lol
why do you think I was asking how Jedi achieved and maintained a clear mind, wanted to see if any of it could be applied to me lol
You on meds?
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« Reply #263 on: July 29, 2020, 09:29:37 PM »

You on meds?
used to be on adderall xr years ago but I stopped taking everything, don't even take tylenol anymore
I drink a lot of tea now but that only helps so much
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« Reply #264 on: July 30, 2020, 01:20:17 PM »

used to be on adderall xr years ago but I stopped taking everything, don't even take tylenol anymore
I drink a lot of tea now but that only helps so much
Yeah, I was on Ritalin forever. Tried some other things that didn't work. Was on Stratera at the end. After doing some reading, I opted to get clean. It's had both pros and cons. I still get easily distracted, but I'm more aware of a greater number of things. The biggest thing was getting clean seemed to open a pharmaceutical floodgate, and all the information that I had been exposed to over 30 years came rushing into focus to be analyzed and sorted; I felt myself grow smarter. I was able to read people better. I had a better handle on my emotions (not a Sith by accident or choice of bad attitude).
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« Reply #265 on: July 31, 2020, 04:46:40 AM »

Just noticed this.  It would be interesting to see if there's a difference in meditation-ability for people who hear a narrative voice in their head.  It comes to great surprise of those who have this, that others don't.  The whole "clear your mind" is a lot harder when your snarky commentator is in the room with you. In fact, it sounds just like something a non-internal-monologuer would come up with and expect everybody could do because of not realizing it exists.

https://www.iflscience.com/brain/people-are-weirded-out-to-discover-that-some-people-dont-have-an-internal-monologue/


I have the internal monologue. One of my sisters doesn't. It is so weird trying to understand how those who don't, think. I can understand some pretty confusing stuff, but this messes me up.
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« Reply #266 on: July 31, 2020, 02:17:15 PM »

I have the internal monologue. One of my sisters doesn't. It is so weird trying to understand how those who don't, think. I can understand some pretty confusing stuff, but this messes me up.

Add to the mix "clear your mind of all thought"

Sister: Done.

Us: um, hang on, would your shut up already! No, not you sensei! Me! I know you are the very model of a modern major general.
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« Reply #267 on: July 31, 2020, 06:47:25 PM »

I have the internal monologue. One of my sisters doesn't. It is so weird trying to understand how those who don't, think. I can understand some pretty confusing stuff, but this messes me up.
I never would have even thought about people not having an internal monologue. How are they operating? They probably sleep like logs though. 
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« Reply #268 on: July 31, 2020, 07:23:14 PM »

I never would have even thought about people not having an internal monologue. How are they operating? They probably sleep like logs though. 
Some people can't picture things in their minds. Therefore they can't dream or at least not like most of us do =/
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« Reply #269 on: July 31, 2020, 07:34:48 PM »

Like I said me and the ahole in my brain came to an understanding on mediation...but still fight about sleep.

Brain:  Pssst.  Hey.
Me:  Yea?
Brain: You're tired aren't ya?
Me: Yea.
Brain:  You took your sinus medication and acid reflux pills right?
Me: Yea....shut up.
Brain:  Yea. Ok..........Hey?
Me: What?
Brain: Remember that really embarrassing thing from 15 years ago/anger inducing comment you read/guy that pissed you off in high school etc.
Me:  Fine.  I'm up.


But I do still have images....I just narrate them.
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