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« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2016, 04:47:23 AM » |
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just out of curiosity and future reference
whats the potential downside (if any) of just leaving the batteries in the saber when not in use
i mean besides not having a full charge. is it dangerous to the batteries and/or saber
The saber will drain the Li-Ions fully and stop the batteries from ever charging again. |
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« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2016, 04:52:28 AM » |
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The saber will drain the Li-Ions fully and stop the batteries from ever charging again.
i see so its safer to just leave the batteries out? |
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BurceChuat
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« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2016, 04:54:50 AM » |
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i see
so its safer to just leave the batteries out?
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Darth Blightus
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« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2016, 04:58:14 AM » |
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Yes.
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Vyk
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« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2016, 05:57:47 PM » |
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just out of curiosity and future reference
whats the potential downside (if any) of just leaving the batteries in the saber when not in use
i mean besides not having a full charge. is it dangerous to the batteries and/or saber
It depends on how long you leave them there and on the configuration of your saber. For a few days from a decent charge, no problem. However, batteries will drain over time; Obsidian boards do draw a small amount of power while asleep, and a lithium-ion battery will also drain slowly even if it is just sitting on a shelf. If a lithium-ion battery drains below a certain point, it can be permanently damaged, possibly to the extent of never taking a charge again. I believe Ultrasabers has stated that, in sleep mode, Obsidian will be fine for a couple of weeks on fully-charged batteries; personally, I wouldn't bet my batteries on that. If you will not be using the saber for more than a couple of days, or if you think the batteries are drained more than halfway, you should put your batteries in the charger. If you have a recharge port, it's good to get in the habit of plugging it in just to be safe, since it's so easy to do. edit: Wow, somehow I completely missed BurceChuat's response and said the same thing but twice as long and 14 hours later. Sorry about that. |
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« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2016, 06:29:28 PM » |
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Awesome first order. The Manticore is a very popular dueling saber, and an all around solid choice. And welcome to the recharge port minority  . I think Racona Nova and I are two of the very few that always get recharge ports. I even got lucky and my 1st place prize from the last raffle (Archon 3.1) came with one.  I agree Always thinking of taking the batteries out will eventually lead to not taking them out or at least not regularly...just talking of myself right now And since I have an Emerald saber with an "Always On" AV switch, it was clear that it also gets a RP...all my four sabers have it, and if I ever get more, they also get it! It also has a simpler reason - I just want to have the best, most complete setup for my sabers. Since I live in Europe, it's quite pricey to let it upgrade if I decide to do so. So I always try to get the best out of it |
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Darth Blightus
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« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2016, 08:09:54 PM » |
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It depends on how long you leave them there and on the configuration of your saber. For a few days from a decent charge, no problem. However, batteries will drain over time; Obsidian boards do draw a small amount of power while asleep, and a lithium-ion battery will also drain slowly even if it is just sitting on a shelf. If a lithium-ion battery drains below a certain point, it can be permanently damaged, possibly to the extent of never taking a charge again. I believe Ultrasabers has stated that, in sleep mode, Obsidian will be fine for a couple of weeks on fully-charged batteries; personally, I wouldn't bet my batteries on that.
If you will not be using the saber for more than a couple of days, or if you think the batteries are drained more than halfway, you should put your batteries in the charger. If you have a recharge port, it's good to get in the habit of plugging it in just to be safe, since it's so easy to do.
edit: Wow, somehow I completely missed BurceChuat's response and said the same thing but twice as long and 14 hours later. Sorry about that.
thanks for the insight Vyk |
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« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2016, 10:25:02 PM » |
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I think this needs some clarification (and if it doesn't, I'm doing it anyway). If you DO NOT have a recharge port, you should take the batteries out if you're not going to be using it for a few days, and put them on the charger. If you DO have a recharge port, you should just always plug the saber in when it's not in use. You do not need to take the batteries out if you have a recharge port and use it. This is per Emory, and he has a saber he leaves plugged in all the time. If the owner of US does it for his sabers, I think it's safe to say that it's a good idea for the rest of us as well. Here:  |
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« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2016, 04:18:00 AM » |
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I take mine out, but I don't usually leave them on the charger....oops.
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« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2016, 04:34:45 AM » |
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I think this needs some clarification (and if it doesn't, I'm doing it anyway). If you DO NOT have a recharge port, you should take the batteries out if you're not going to be using it for a few days, and put them on the charger. If you DO have a recharge port, you should just always plug the saber in when it's not in use. You do not need to take the batteries out if you have a recharge port and use it. This is per Emory, and he has a saber he leaves plugged in all the time. If the owner of US does it for his sabers, I think it's safe to say that it's a good idea for the rest of us as well. Here: wait so keeping the batteries in the charger wont overcharge them and cause them to explode? |
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BurceChuat
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« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2016, 04:41:32 AM » |
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wait so keeping the batteries in the charger wont overcharge them and cause them to explode?
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« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2016, 05:00:03 AM » |
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sorry i was thinking of lithium batteries instead of lithium-ion (big difference) i was watching this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYon5KOdgVcemory said you could overcharge them with the vp1 charger (at 2:17-2:40) if you use 1 amp setting. but the regular charger can trickle charge since its set on .25 |
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« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2016, 05:53:00 AM » |
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sorry i was thinking of lithium batteries instead of lithium-ion (big difference) i was watching this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYon5KOdgVcemory said you could overcharge them with the vp1 charger (at 2:17-2:40) if you use 1 amp setting. but the regular charger can trickle charge since its set on .25 Ah, makes sense. I have the VP2 Plus charger and it's always set to .5A. |
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« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2016, 06:03:01 AM » |
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so you cant leave the batteries out in the open either right
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« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2016, 06:46:42 PM » |
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so you cant leave the batteries out in the open either right
For a little while (days), yes. For a prolonged period (weeks), no, it's not a good idea. |
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