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« Reply #51330 on: October 08, 2019, 12:22:02 AM »

When an author sells the movie rights to their books, unless they are someone like JK Rowling, the studios are free to make any changes they want. Obviously JK Rowling has massive amounts of input and say in the Harry Potter movies, but not all authors negotiate such good deals.

And within the Potterverse, there are those who say that anything outside of the original seven books (or 10 books, if you count Quidditch Through the Ages, Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them, and The Tales of Beedle the Bard) is non-canonical, no matter what JKR might add in after-the-fact interviews, tweets, or whatever.  I'm not squarely in that camp, but I can see where they're coming from.
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« Reply #51331 on: October 08, 2019, 08:24:33 AM »

And within the Potterverse, there are those who say that anything outside of the original seven books (or 10 books, if you count Quidditch Through the Ages, Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them, and The Tales of Beedle the Bard) is non-canonical, no matter what JKR might add in after-the-fact interviews, tweets, or whatever.  I'm not squarely in that camp, but I can see where they're coming from.
Sometimes fans get a little carried away and take ownership of these franchises because they love them so much. If JKR adds more stuff to the Potter-verse then she is then only one who can decide what is and isn't canon. She is the creator, what she says goes. It's like George Lucas and Star Wars.
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« Reply #51332 on: October 08, 2019, 10:09:35 AM »

I found out that the whole Orc fiasco, as well as the Battle of the 5 Armies in the Hobbit was complete Hollywood BS. I always wondered why it left a foul taste.


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Adapting a book into a movie is very hard ... but I have to admit that books I love the most generally become movies I do not like (except first seasons of GOT).

LOTR/hobbit movies are beautiful, well made with great actors but the choices were made that disappointed me ... (the worst was Theoden and Worm Tongue)
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« Reply #51333 on: October 08, 2019, 11:05:44 AM »

I always prefer the book but do watch the movie with an opened mind. A lot of things won't transfer to screen correctly or at all but that's the beauty of some of it in my opinion, I just look forward to the story on the big screen
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« Reply #51334 on: October 08, 2019, 01:19:07 PM »

I always prefer the book but do watch the movie with an opened mind. A lot of things won't transfer to screen correctly or at all but that's the beauty of some of it in my opinion, I just look forward to the story on the big screen

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« Reply #51335 on: October 08, 2019, 01:49:18 PM »

When an author sells the movie rights to their books, unless they are someone like JK Rowling, the studios are free to make any changes they want. Obviously JK Rowling has massive amounts of input and say in the Harry Potter movies, but not all authors negotiate such good deals.

Yea..why I specified "allowed input" on behalf of the author.  In the case of World War Z though its was bureaucracy  nonsense and a poor agent that made it where Max Brooks had no say so on selling the movie rights.
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« Reply #51336 on: October 08, 2019, 04:52:26 PM »

Sometimes fans get a little carried away and take ownership of these franchises because they love them so much. If JKR adds more stuff to the Potter-verse then she is then only one who can decide what is and isn't canon. She is the creator, what she says goes. It's like George Lucas and Star Wars.
I'm still trying to figure out where I come down on that whole discussion, to be honest. 

When she said in an interview that she'd always thought of Dumbledore as gay, I pondered it, and thought, "Well, okay, I can see that.  Doesn't really change how I read the books, but I can see how that would work, and it does make some things make a LOT more sense.  Okay, accepted as personal head-canon." 

When the big kerfuffle arose because they cast a black woman to play Hermione in "Harry Potter and the Cursed Child," I really couldn't see the reason to get upset, even though my personal image was a (much less attractive) version of what we saw in the movies.  I know some folks point to the text in Prisoner of Azkaban where she and Harry are rescuing Buckbeak right outside of Hagrid's hut (with their "earlier" selves inside the hut under Harry's Invisibility Cloak) and it says, "Hermione's white face was sticking out from behind a tree," and claim that she MUST be white, but frankly, I can see that as merely an expression rather than as a prescriptive description of the character.  Other than that one mention, there is nothing (that I remember) in the text that demands that she be any particular ethnicity, so mixing it up a little bit for a stage performance causes me no grief.  I feel a little bit smug in having some validation for my personal head-canon, but if they want a non-white actress to play Hermione in a play, so what?  Anyone who isn't Emma Watson is going to be jarring for me, anyway, now that I've seen her as Hermione so many times. 

When she said that Ron & Hermione probably needed marital counseling, I thought that was just common sense.  Heck, I figure several of the couples might have needed it.  You KNOW Harry needed some counseling to deal with his issues, and Ginny had been possessed by Moldy Voldy, so HER head wasn't exactly on perfectly, so it stands to reason that the two of them as a couple just might have gone to seek counseling, too.  I didn't take Queen Jo's comment about Ron and Hermione needing counseling (or her comment in the same interview that in some ways, Harry and Hermione were a better fit) as her saying that what was in the Epilogue was wrong, or that the Harmony shippers had been right all along; I took it as some common-sense observations.  The Harmony shippers were wrong, but they weren't basing their hope off absolutely nothing-- there WAS something special between Hermione and Harry; it just wasn't the kind of special that leads to marriage.

However, when I read Cursed Child, and found out she thought that the plot was just peachy-keen and could be regarded as canon, I said, "Nope! Not canon for me!"  When she removed (or allowed to be removed) the original birthdate for Minerva McGonagall from Pottermore that CLEARLY showed she could not be the same Minerva McGonagall we saw interacting with a younger Dumbledore in "Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald" -- as if we fans wouldn't notice -- I decided that she no longer got to retcon MY head-canon.  When she started contradicting earlier canon, I started choosing what I would accept.
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« Reply #51337 on: October 08, 2019, 05:07:18 PM »

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« Reply #51338 on: October 09, 2019, 05:52:38 PM »

I has a new avatar!!! Tongue
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« Reply #51339 on: October 09, 2019, 05:59:40 PM »

I has a new avatar!!! Tongue
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« Reply #51340 on: October 09, 2019, 07:11:43 PM »

I has a new avatar!!! Tongue
I noticed that earlier today... it looks good!
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« Reply #51341 on: October 09, 2019, 07:41:03 PM »

Two questions for the group:

1) Favourite movie to watch on Halloween?

2) What are you wearing for Halloween this year?

In case you haven't noticed, Halloween is one of my favourite times of the year
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« Reply #51342 on: October 09, 2019, 08:31:43 PM »

Two questions for the group:

1) Favourite movie to watch on Halloween?

2) What are you wearing for Halloween this year?

In case you haven't noticed, Halloween is one of my favourite times of the year

1) Dracula: Dead and Loving it. I know its not exactly "spooky" but I love it all the same.

2) Big hoodie and the wrappers of the leftover kit-kat bars.

Just as a quick edit to expand on point 1; where i dont do scary movies all that much, i think playing some Bloodborne will be called for.
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« Reply #51343 on: October 09, 2019, 08:35:07 PM »

Two questions for the group:

1) Favourite movie to watch on Halloween?

2) What are you wearing for Halloween this year?

In case you haven't noticed, Halloween is one of my favourite times of the year

1.) Tie between Nightmare Before Christmas and Hocus Pocus
2.)  Gonna be Thor this year.  Not any definite version. Kind of mish mash of different versions.
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« Reply #51344 on: October 09, 2019, 08:38:21 PM »

1) Hocus Pocus
2) What else?


Also got to see Ghostbusters on the big screen Sunday. 35yo and it still kicks ass.
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