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« on: January 15, 2018, 03:42:56 PM » |
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I’m working on a samurai inspired hilt. Has anybody tried to curve a blade.
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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2018, 05:30:39 PM » |
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Could you be more specific with diagram/pics if possible. You are wanting to curve an US midgrade blade ? I'm thinking if that's possible... that there will be dead spots where minimal illumination gets through but need more details. The only ones I've seen that are samurai inspired are those flat acrylic mostly for display blades. The concept including the saber itself seems quite interesting.  |
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2018, 08:12:11 PM » |
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You would have to heat it at the area you want curved, this would entail removing the diffusion film, heating the tube with the cap on, bending and holding the tube as it cooled.
The problem is three fold:
1. Not getting a weak spot in the blade at the bend. A hair dryer might work but it might not be hot enough.
2. Not getting burn marks on the blade if you use flame.
3. Making sure the light goes through and diffusion film not crinkling.
Other than that it might work. Cool concept I hope it works out.
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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2018, 09:38:13 PM » |
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I don't have the experience or knowledge of how to bend the blade, but I have noticed that if you leave your saber leaning against the wall at an angle, the blade gets a bit of a curve on it's own. You might be able to get a pretty decent bend out of it that way. Don't know for sure though.
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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2018, 10:38:43 PM » |
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The only way I can think is using heat.. but you'll likely compromise the blade strength that way. As a display piece, fine, I would not dual with it.
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2018, 10:45:09 PM » |
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How much of a curve are you trying to get? It SHOULD be possible using proper heat application
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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2018, 01:37:54 PM » |
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I've started with a standard hilt and have been modding it. So far I am happy with the way its going, although I still have a bit of time before it is needed. A friend of mine is doing a Samurai Stormtrooper and asked me to make something up. It does not need a major curve, just enough to give it that authentic look. I know that a US blade is made to take a beating and I do not think he will be doing any hard dueling with it. I noticed that If you try to bend a blade the film inside does not move evenly with the blade housing. This gives it a spot that will be highly reflective, I need to find a way around that.
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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2018, 02:08:11 PM » |
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I’m not sure the film inside will bend well. Even if you took it out, bent the tube, then placed the film back in. It’d most likely still create kinks
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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2018, 02:35:00 PM » |
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I've conceived of this before. It would be possible, if you have the time, to apply a weight in the tip of the blade, and simply let the plastic......plastically deform. It's the biggest reason why I don't store my blades in my hilts. If you wanted to speed things along, you could use something like a hair dryer to apply some heat. But I am with those saying that the deformed blade would probably only be best suited for cosmetic use and not for dueling. I’m not sure the film inside will bend well. Even if you took it out, bent the tube, then placed the film back in. It’d most likely still create kinks
I think if you put just the right amount of curve in, the film will react the same way it does when you flex a blade normally. |
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2018, 03:32:13 PM » |
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While there will no doubt be some loss of light getting to the tip the more you curve it, I can't see it being a super substantial loss in illumination. Case in point, the "lightwhip" attachments made by "the other guys" all appear to be relatively bright and that is about as curved and flexible as it gets. Of course that is on video/pictures, in reality might be drastically different.
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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2018, 03:40:38 PM » |
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While there will no doubt be some loss of light getting to the tip the more you curve it, I can't see it being a super substantial loss in illumination. Case in point, the "lightwhip" attachments made by "the other guys" all appear to be relatively bright and that is about as curved and flexible as it gets. Of course that is on video/pictures, in reality might be drastically different.
But, without getting into too many details, those are fiber optic. They are effectively solid blades and therefore work differently. |
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« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2018, 03:42:43 PM » |
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But, without getting into too many details, those are fiber optic. They are effectively solid blades and therefore work differently.
So it is, my bad. |
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« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2018, 04:18:13 PM » |
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I think I’ll go ahead and buy a grab bag blade and see what I can do with that one. That way if it fails dramatically I’m not out a lot of money.
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« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2018, 04:34:38 PM » |
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I think I’ll go ahead and buy a grab bag blade and see what I can do with that one. That way if it fails dramatically I’m not out a lot of money.
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« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2018, 09:03:52 PM » |
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I would buy a piece of pvc or abs tubing that the blade fits in snug. cut it in half long ways. use four to six blocks and attach them to the cut tubing making the bend you want. you won't need much being a samurai blade. I would clamp down one side, heat very lightly with a heat gun and clamping as you go. you shouldn't need very much heat if any really. keep it clamped in the jig for awhile and hopefully it will stay bent. that is what the heat would help with.
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