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« Reply #30 on: February 15, 2018, 12:42:09 PM »

Aftermath Trilogy is OK...its not brilliant...not bad...some strained crossovers with the Movie characters (Han/Leia), don't take it too seriously and you can enjoy it, if you're after something that discusses the srategic and political situation in the new canon...you won't get much.

Bloodlines another new on in the new cannon which focuses on Leia has some good moments but really doesn't work that well, notably Ben Solo is relegated to being off somewhere doing something as a 'major' revealtion (PSOILER Darth Vader is Leias Father!!!) is revealed...This was likely to free up the future movies to use Ben/Kylo as they saw fit but having no conversation between Leia and Ben was a massive let down and simply made no sense.

Honestly both Aftermath and Bloodlines, and i fear any future books set between the original and sequel trilogies suffer from something that the original EU did not, and that is everyone knows where the cannon is headed (ep VII) except the characters in these books, it is a hard trick to write a book in that context and i'm not sure anyone will really be able to pull if off. But just my opinion...a well done Snoke book or Ben's fall to Kylo could be awesome though.

But yeah original EU Traitor was the best!!! Poor Jacen what a waste to kill him off when he could've played an awesome Hannibal to Luke's Clarice....


During Bloodlines Ben was off training with Luke, which did give us a timeline on to how long he has been Kylo Ren...I thought the revelation to the universe that Vader was Leia's Father would have some kind of influence on Ben's fall.  Apparently it didn't as far as we've been shown.  As I stated before unless it is focused on Thrawn or Vader the new EU isn't very good.  A lot of superfluous characters that go nowhere and plot threads that seem to just dangle.  Like the Acolytes of the Beyond.
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« Reply #31 on: February 15, 2018, 12:57:01 PM »


During Bloodlines Ben was off training with Luke, which did give us a timeline on to how long he has been Kylo Ren...I thought the revelation to the universe that Vader was Leia's Father would have some kind of influence on Ben's fall.  Apparently it didn't as far as we've been shown.  As I stated before unless it is focused on Thrawn or Vader the new EU isn't very good.  A lot of superfluous characters that go nowhere and plot threads that seem to just dangle.  Like the Acolytes of the Beyond.
I have only read the new "Thrawn" book by Zahn of the new EU.  Admittedly I don't care for the post-Disney works with the exceptions of the above mentioned book and "Rogue 1."

But the Legends EU was FULL of poor showings e.g. "The Jedi Academy" trilogy.  Actually, just about any book by Kevin J. Anderson (SW, Dune, DC) is, in my opinion, a waste of time.
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« Reply #32 on: February 15, 2018, 01:22:35 PM »

I have only read the new "Thrawn" book by Zahn of the new EU.  Admittedly I don't care for the post-Disney works with the exceptions of the above mentioned book and "Rogue 1."

But the Legends EU was FULL of poor showings e.g. "The Jedi Academy" trilogy.  Actually, just about any book by Kevin J. Anderson (SW, Dune, DC) is, in my opinion, a waste of time.
Thanks for the heads up. But I gotta ask if he does anything with Sith.


During Bloodlines Ben was off training with Luke, which did give us a timeline on to how long he has been Kylo Ren...I thought the revelation to the universe that Vader was Leia's Father would have some kind of influence on Ben's fall.  Apparently it didn't as far as we've been shown.  As I stated before unless it is focused on Thrawn or Vader the new EU isn't very good.  A lot of superfluous characters that go nowhere and plot threads that seem to just dangle.  Like the Acolytes of the Beyond.
DAMMIT! I read Luke and Ben and was immediately hopeful you were referring to Ben SKYWALKER. Sad
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« Reply #33 on: February 15, 2018, 02:50:13 PM »

I have only read the new "Thrawn" book by Zahn of the new EU.  Admittedly I don't care for the post-Disney works with the exceptions of the above mentioned book and "Rogue 1."

But the Legends EU was FULL of poor showings e.g. "The Jedi Academy" trilogy.  Actually, just about any book by Kevin J. Anderson (SW, Dune, DC) is, in my opinion, a waste of time.

Yea, but without the Academy Trilogy we would have no Kyp Durron or Exar Kun
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« Reply #34 on: February 15, 2018, 07:37:01 PM »

Thanks for the heads up. But I gotta ask if he does anything with Sith.
No.  I take that back: he briefly talks to Vader and the Emperor.  That's it.

Yea, but without the Academy Trilogy we would have no Kyp Durron or Exar Kun
DT, I'll give you Exar Kun but Kyp Durron...eh, he's the book's "Kylo Ren"  Wink
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« Reply #35 on: February 15, 2018, 07:49:24 PM »

No.  I take that back: he briefly talks to Vader and the Emperor.  That's it.
DT, I'll give you Exar Kun but Kyp Durron...eh, he's the book's "Kylo Ren"  Wink
Actually, Tepes answered that. I figured if I'm going to write a book that brakes new ground, I need to know, to the best of my ability, what has already been done.

Also, Ren is a cheap shadow of Jacen Solo. Maybe they threw in other traits of other characters.
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« Reply #36 on: February 15, 2018, 09:36:18 PM »


During Bloodlines Ben was off training with Luke, which did give us a timeline on to how long he has been Kylo Ren...I thought the revelation to the universe that Vader was Leia's Father would have some kind of influence on Ben's fall.  Apparently it didn't as far as we've been shown.  As I stated before unless it is focused on Thrawn or Vader the new EU isn't very good.  A lot of superfluous characters that go nowhere and plot threads that seem to just dangle.  Like the Acolytes of the Beyond.

Yeah that was my problem with it, that revelation should've lead to at least a scene with Ben and Luke discussing it, but it didn't and that is really a big miss in my eyes. 

I think they still need more work on Ben to Kylo its not just Luke tries to kill me I change my name, there must be at least some evens in-between that really need to be brought to light.

I feel like thy are playing it safe so they don't contradict any future movies and the plots are suffering as a result.

DAMMIT! I read Luke and Ben and was immediately hopeful you were referring to Ben SKYWALKER. Sad

We all wish...that would mean Mara Jade...
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« Reply #37 on: February 15, 2018, 10:30:39 PM »

We all wish...that would mean Mara Jade...
Luke marries fire hot redhead that used to try to kill him or Luke becomes grumpy old hermit. Hmmmm.........which makes a story.
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« Reply #38 on: February 15, 2018, 11:17:43 PM »

Luke marries fire hot redhead that used to try to kill him or Luke becomes grumpy old hermit. Hmmmm.........which makes a story.

Can't argue with that.  I was willing to quietly mourn Mara and see where they went with Luke...but what Johnson gave us...was...just....words fail.  Though, my wife disliked TLJ so much it lit the fire under her to read the old EU.  

Yeah that was my problem with it, that revelation should've lead to at least a scene with Ben and Luke discussing it, but it didn't and that is really a big miss in my eyes.  

I think they still need more work on Ben to Kylo its not just Luke tries to kill me I change my name, there must be at least some evens in-between that really need to be brought to light.

I feel like thy are playing it safe so they don't contradict any future movies and the plots are suffering as a result.

We all wish...that would mean Mara Jade...

Yea, the reason that Johnson gave for Ben's turn was so out there and unsatisfactory.  Really shows that the cohesion they said they were going for seems to have went right out the window.


No.  I take that back: he briefly talks to Vader and the Emperor.  That's it.

If you mean Thrawn, just wait till the sequel.  Thrawn: Alliances.  It is all about a Mission Thrawn and Vader are sent on.  That is a dangerous duo.
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« Reply #39 on: February 15, 2018, 11:30:20 PM »

If you mean Thrawn, just wait till the sequel.  Thrawn: Alliances.  It is all about a Mission Thrawn and Vader are sent on.  That is a dangerous duo.

Can not wait for that book. Can't believe I'm looking forward more to a novel than any more Episodic Star Wars films... but such is the state of the franchise.  Undecided
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« Reply #40 on: February 19, 2018, 05:06:52 PM »

Can't argue with that.  I was willing to quietly mourn Mara and see where they went with Luke...but what Johnson gave us...was...just....words fail.  Though, my wife disliked TLJ so much it lit the fire under her to read the old EU.  
The phrasing is making me want to Rebel.
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« Reply #41 on: March 14, 2018, 09:57:43 PM »

I enjoyed the first two X-Wing books. It's a shame I never got my hands on the others...
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