The Death of Superman

[Taegin Roan]

Do yourself a favor and skip Batman: Ninja unless you're really into anime.

Already decided upon. I don't care for Batman as it is, and honestly, that movie didn't look that great to me.

[Infinit01]

Do yourself a favor and skip Batman: Ninja unless you're really into anime.

Batman Ninja was good to me

[BatMike90]

Do yourself a favor and skip Batman: Ninja unless you're really into anime.

I concur with this statement.

Already decided upon. I don't care for Batman as it is, and honestly, that movie didn't look that great to me.

Don't care for Batman? Now I am sad....

Batman Ninja was good to me

Curious, do you follow anime regularly?

[scifidude79]

Batman: Ninja had such great promise. I mean, Batman is already a ninja, and putting him into a feudal Japan setting was a great idea. However, it's just an anime with Batman dressing. Now, Gotham by Gaslight is an awesome film. (yes, I have the comic on my Kindle) I also have Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay, which is a good one and the two animated 1960s Batman films starring the late great Adam West, Burt Ward and Julie Newmar. Those are a lot of fun. Those are my newest DC animated films, and I have some older Batman and Green Lantern films. The Dark Knight Returns is a really good one from a few years back, and it's a great adaptation of the comic.

[Infinit01]

Curious, do you follow anime regularly?

I watch anime here and there, I wouldn’t say regularly since it has to be something I whichwjich falls into the action, sci-fi, and fighting types of anime.   I’m pretty selective on what I watch.  I’m more of a sci-fi and comic book kind of guy so any animated Marvel and DC series are my go to but I did give Batman Ninja a chance and liked it. 

[Edon Bluewolf]

I didn't like Batman Ninja and has kind of kept me from seeing Gotham by Gaslight.  But maybe I'll give it a chance since Sci mentioned it was good.

[Taegin Roan]

I concur with this statement.
Don't care for Batman? Now I am sad....

There are many things about Batman that I like, and a few portrayals that I like, but in general I just don't see why a lot of people think he is the greatest person ever. I don't have a problem if you like him, he just isn't me. I'm really more of a Green Arrow, Green Lantern, and Flash type of guy, though I do like WW, Aquaman and Martian Manhunter quite a bit too. Overall however, I prefer Marvel of DC.

[Infinit01]

Curious, do you follow anime regularly?

Adding to my statement, anime doesn't automatically mean that I'll like it and watch it.  It has to follow my taste which are action, sci-fi, and some humor either separately or collectively. 

I didn't like Batman Ninja and has kind of kept me from seeing Gotham by Gaslight.  But maybe I'll give it a chance since Sci mentioned it was good.

Give it a try, you'll either like it or not but it's still a good watch in my opinion.

There are many things about Batman that I like, and a few portrayals that I like, but in general I just don't see why a lot of people think he is the greatest person ever. I don't have a problem if you like him, he just isn't me. I'm really more of a Green Arrow, Green Lantern, and Flash type of guy, though I do like WW, Aquaman and Martian Manhunter quite a bit too. Overall however, I prefer Marvel of DC.

Agreed.  I think he's a great character for the DCU; however, he isn't the be-all-end-all characters and my preference is Marvel as well from comics to cards and the MCU.  I may take DC seriously when they stop making movies so dark and give them vivid colors, filming them in the day time like WW.  Aquaman looks really promising as well.

[scifidude79]

I didn't like Batman Ninja and has kind of kept me from seeing Gotham by Gaslight.  But maybe I'll give it a chance since Sci mentioned it was good.

Two totally different movies by different studios. Ninja was made by one of the top anime studios in Japan, Gotham by Gaslight was made by Warner Bros. Animation. Basically, the same people who made The Death of Superman.

[Darth Tepes]

What irks me is when people call superman Overpowered and boring then turn around and say "Batman always wins".  Batman was not supposed to be unbeatable....just unstoppable.   He could be beat...but he was coming back and not going to get beat the same way twice.  One of the things I loved was when Dark Knight III finished ( continuation of  The Dark Knight Returns) some Batman fans were not happy.  Superman had to fight 3 Kryptonians, and he was not holding back.  Batman was watching the fight and realized that Superman could have killed him at anytime over the years. 

[scifidude79]

Superman is so powerful that he holds back in almost every fight. There are a few enemies he's gone at full strength, but not many. Obviously, anyone Kryptonian would have the same powers as him, so he can't afford to hold back against other Kryptonians. He also gave Doomsday everything he had.

Batman always "wins" (and, technically, never really has in canon comics) when fighting Superman by using Kryptonite. Plain and simple. It's one of Superman's weaknesses, his main one in fact, and Batman knows it. Superman even gave Batman Lex Luthor's Kryptonite ring to use against him in case he ever went bad. Superman also has a weakness to magic and witchcraft. He's got no real defense against it and it has been used against him on more than one occasion, though it's a less frequently exploited weakness.

And, yes, Batman can certainly be beat, and has been on many occasions. After all, he's only human. He just learns from his losses and figures out how to beat his opponents. He's even been killed more than once in the comics. The Golden Age Batman was eventually killed, and Robin continued fighting crime with Bruce Wayne and Selina Kyles daughter, the original Huntress. Then, of course, there was his defeat at the hands of Bane.

[Edon Bluewolf]

I would like to have this issue:

"In Superman: Speeding Bullets, rather than crashing in Smallville, Kael-El crashed in Gotham City where he was discovered by Thomas and Martha Wayne who raised him as their son. Following the same tragedy that befell the Batman we’re familiar with, Kal-El became The Flying Batman!"

[Taegin Roan]

One thing I hate about Superman is that a lot of people will use electricity against him, and hurt him with it. He isn't weak to electricity, so that always ticks me off when they do that. I like when he has to fight magicians, because that is something he can't deal with (as he he doesn't know how). Kryptonite just beats him down so much that anyone can beat him with it (Alfred), but it is so overused. There is supposed to be only a very small amount of it on Earth, yet every single big bad seems to have some. But I would love to see Supes go full power against Darkseid in the DCEU (like we saw in Justice League Unlimited). I think that battle would be cool.

[scifidude79]

Yes, Kryptonite is majorly overused. As for its availability, certain genius scientists such as Lex Luthor have been known to synthesize Kryptonite. In 1950's Atom Man vs Superman, that's what Lex Luthor did. Though, his synthetic Kryptonite quickly weakened to the point of being ineffective. But, it was pretty darn effective at first.

[Darth Tepes]

Many people mistake Superman being vulnerable to Magic as being the same as Kryptonite.  Of course it isn't.  Magic just negates his invulnerability, if he gets around a magicians spell he can still knock them across the park.  Kryptonite (green at least ;P) doesn't just zap his powers, but slowly kills him.  Just a distinction so many overlook.  Why I'm looking forward to the rematch of He-Man vs Superman in the injustice comics.   I once read an article years ago that talked about how technically...Superman is faster than the Flash.  I don't know how the science holds up but basically it boiled down to this.  An object weighing as much as the Flash weighs (about 195 for Barry Allen so we'll use that) would cause a lot of havoc on the environment around him moving at the speed he runs.  But the Speed Force acts as a buffer for that allowing him to move through the atmosphere with minimal affect.  Superman however does not have the buffer of the speed force and also weighs even more ( 235lbs is generally given).  If he truly moved at his top speed on earth he would cause massive damage (like Neo in the Matrix when he was rushing to save Trinity and was upturning cars and breaking windows), but in space he can move at his top speeds. Which haven't been measured.