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« Reply #150 on: October 15, 2018, 03:07:28 PM » |
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So, I hate to be a stick in the mud, but I have a point to make.
The new Initiate and Aeon v5 line will cost $20 more than the v4 line.
So a v4 with windows and AV switch upgrade would cost the same as a v5 which has them standard.
Obviously you are getting different aesthetics, and US can charge whatever they want, and I'm not saying they are not worth the money.
But you're not actually saving any money on an Aeon or Initiate v5. In a way, making the widows and AV switch standard and then charging $20 more just prices the hilts out of range for someone who might be ok with no windows and a normal switch.
That being said, the apprentice and sentinel v5 line is only $5 more expensive that the v4 line, so you are in fact saving $15 on the windows and AV switch with those.
I'm guessing the difference in price between the Aeon v5 and Sentinel v5 is due to the claws and possibly grenade grip, but that is pure speculation.
Sorry for raining on the parade, but I gotta call them like I see them. If I made a mistake in my calculations I do apologize, and please let me know
That is because the new Ini's and Aeo-nix hilts now have claws and more elaborate pommels. Taking these things into consideration an extra $20 is a steal. The reason for the difference to the +$5 for the new Apprentice/Sentinel is because they only have new milling. Sentinel/Apprentice = more machine time vs. Aeo-nix/Ini = more more machine time (more machining of hilt + machining of claws) + more metal (claws) + more assembly (putting claws on)
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« Reply #151 on: October 15, 2018, 03:28:26 PM » |
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That is because the new Ini's and Aeo-nix hilts now have claws and more elaborate pommels. Taking these things into consideration an extra $20 is a steal. The reason for the difference to the +$5 for the new Apprentice/Sentinel is because they only have new milling.
Sentinel/Apprentice = more machine time
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Aeo-nix/Ini = more more machine time (more machining of hilt + machining of claws) + more metal (claws) + more assembly (putting claws on)
This. Machining = more money and time for installation and what not. Also, the claws come anodized and are removable so for the price and what you can do to the sabers in the hilt alone, $20.00 more is still a heck of a deal.
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« Reply #152 on: October 15, 2018, 05:35:02 PM » |
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Good points and pretty much what I suspected. They are definitely beautiful and I'm sure worth the price
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« Reply #153 on: October 15, 2018, 07:29:30 PM » |
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Most of the time in any production rather a US saber or a new car the new version will cost more money, this is nothing new. Not only that but cost of everything goes up every year, we are lucky right now that prices on all sabers have not gone up $10 to $20 or more this year.
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« Reply #154 on: October 17, 2018, 05:58:31 AM » |
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Hi Rapine,
No the mistake was all mine using the wrong term to describe the blade.
Now to find someone who wants to buy some old internal organs from a worn out Jedi to fund my next saber...
It's not that bad. I'm sure you can find some Imperial Credits to acquire the sabers with.
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« Reply #155 on: October 17, 2018, 11:23:00 AM » |
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It's not that bad. I'm sure you can find some Imperial Credits to acquire the sabers with. I have twenty thousand Republic dataries
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« Reply #156 on: October 17, 2018, 11:49:29 AM » |
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I have twenty thousand Republic dataries
why do I see Watto yelling at you for this?
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« Reply #157 on: October 17, 2018, 11:56:49 AM » |
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why do I see Watto yelling at you for this?
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« Reply #158 on: October 17, 2018, 06:24:08 PM » |
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They look nice, but so did the V4s. Although im not really a fan of the claws. The real kicker for me will be how they feel though. Ive noticed the upper choke point on the new Dominix/Aeon is completely slanted as opposed to the flat cutoff on the V4s, thatll make it about 1000 times more comfortable. Still kinda narrow though. Nothing beats the wide, slanted chokes on the V3s, hoping to see those again someday even if it limits the aesthetic space ever so slightly.
Edit: actually, looking at the pictures, the claws hang down over the upper choke making it pretty much completely useless with them on. Looks like this will be an either pretty OR duel worthy saber, but never both which is unfortunate.
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« Reply #159 on: October 17, 2018, 07:27:04 PM » |
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Aeon V5, Blazing Red, black claws and av switch, perfect set up ;o
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« Reply #160 on: October 17, 2018, 09:04:47 PM » |
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Going to try to resist the urge to buy the Initiate LE v5 until I can handle one at a con or see some reviews regarding those downward claw points.
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« Reply #161 on: October 18, 2018, 01:11:20 PM » |
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I keep dreaming of an Phantasm Ini. LE V5 in BR. Going to try to resist the urge to buy the Initiate LE v5 until I can handle one at a con or see some reviews regarding those downward claw points.
Good luck. From the posted images, the overall contours look identical to the corresponding V4s. They've just added some more aesthetic milling and greeblies.
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« Reply #162 on: October 18, 2018, 07:26:28 PM » |
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At the very least, I'm holding off until they're off preorder-the wait for the Butcher has been bad enough
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« Reply #163 on: October 19, 2018, 03:06:41 AM » |
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No kidding, you are sure right about that Therion, but looks like our suffering is soon coming to an end.
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« Reply #164 on: October 19, 2018, 06:32:40 AM » |
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At the very least, I'm holding off until they're off preorder-the wait for the Butcher has been bad enough
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