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« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2018, 04:02:22 PM »

Pretty good side by side comparison there DL. 

The Darth Bane books are next on my reading list Saso, so many have recommended I am very much looking forward to them just hard to find the time.
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« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2018, 06:56:44 PM »

Darth Scourge turned against Revan when they were planning to face the Sith Emperor together. I'd like it if Scourge didn't wuss out of that fight. Together, they defeat The Emperor. Revan takes over as the leader of the Sith, teaching his Jedi and Sith Apprentices, ushering in a new era of Sith with different knowledge and rules.
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« Reply #32 on: October 12, 2018, 05:28:45 AM »

Pretty good side by side comparison there DL. 

The Darth Bane books are next on my reading list Saso, so many have recommended I am very much looking forward to them just hard to find the time.
You will be so sad that they aren't canon any longer. Sad
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« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2018, 07:17:29 AM »

StarKiller versus Kylo Ren. To me, StarKiller will take Kylo out with Kylo putting up a good fight but with StarKillerís background of being trained by Vader himself and then General Kota among his own experience fighting, heíll overtake Kylo with saber combat alone but adding his skills with a force powers, Kylo will be in over his head. I also donít think that Kylo would be able to match StarKillers fighting style either
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« Reply #34 on: October 12, 2018, 08:47:19 AM »

StarKiller versus Kylo Ren. To me, StarKiller will take Kylo out with Kylo putting up a good fight but with StarKillerís background of being trained by Vader himself and then General Kota among his own experience fighting, heíll overtake Kylo with saber combat alone but adding his skills with a force powers, Kylo will be in over his head. I also donít think that Kylo would be able to match StarKillers fighting style either

In the end, no matter how powerful Kylo is...he has very little experience in one on one saber combat..per out discussion about training the other day.  Saw a good example of this in the Power Rangers comic.  Tommy faced off against his Evil counterpart from another dimension (Lord Drakkon).  While Drakkon had amassed power and used it to conquer, Tommy had kept training and using his skills over his power.  When it came down to a hand to hand fight..Tommy easily won.
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« Reply #35 on: October 12, 2018, 09:06:34 AM »

StarKiller versus Kylo Ren. To me, StarKiller will take Kylo out with Kylo putting up a good fight but with StarKillerís background of being trained by Vader himself and then General Kota among his own experience fighting, heíll overtake Kylo with saber combat alone but adding his skills with a force powers, Kylo will be in over his head. I also donít think that Kylo would be able to match StarKillers fighting style either
Skill vs. skill, or power vs. power; the result is the same: (unbiased by canon favoritism) Starkiller outclasses Ren in every aspect. Of course SK was trained by a true master of the dark side.
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« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2018, 09:12:32 AM »

Skill vs. skill, or power vs. power; the result is the same: (unbiased by canon favoritism) Starkiller outclasses Ren in every aspect. Of course SK was trained by a true master of the dark side.

I feel Kylo has just as much raw (not to quote snoke Hefner directly) power as SK.  But, as we've all said...One was trained by Vader...the other was trained by....whatever snoke was
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« Reply #37 on: October 12, 2018, 09:31:58 AM »

I feel Kylo has just as much raw (not to quote snoke Hefner directly) power as SK.  But, as we've all said...One was trained by Vader...the other was trained by....whatever snoke was
Raw power is one thing, ability to control it is another. Even if Ren is more powerful, he continually shows that hasn't learned how to control it. SK on the other hand does know control, and in my mind that makes him more powerful.
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« Reply #38 on: October 12, 2018, 10:06:25 AM »

Raw power is one thing, ability to control it is another. Even if Ren is more powerful, he continually shows that hasn't learned how to control it. SK on the other hand does know control, and in my mind that makes him more powerful.

This is soo true, even in real life. There apparently is lightsaber combat championship tournament in the USA and one particular person I know of took part.
He was bragging about how he won the previous year and how he was gonna defend his title by having this grand weight lifting and strength building regime to prepare.
He was gonna win cos he had "greater reach and strength to overwhelm my opponent" then he got his backside handed to him as his opponent ran rings round him with superior technique.

I laughed soo hard when I heard he became a Number Two.
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« Reply #39 on: October 12, 2018, 10:22:47 AM »

Raw power is one thing, ability to control it is another. Even if Ren is more powerful, he continually shows that hasn't learned how to control it. SK on the other hand does know control, and in my mind that makes him more powerful.

This^. I'm one of the few people that actually like Ren, but come on, SK would mop the floor with him.

Shout outs to Snoke Hefner and Big Daddy Bane.  Grin
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« Reply #40 on: October 12, 2018, 10:59:42 AM »

Raw power is one thing, ability to control it is another. Even if Ren is more powerful, he continually shows that hasn't learned how to control it. SK on the other hand does know control, and in my mind that makes him more powerful.

Of course.  Ren vs SK is the perfect example of how natural talent is useless without training to hone it.  Both were born with immense reserves of power...but SK had superior training.  I think we're all on the same pager about this match up.  Ok...Rey vs Mara Jade Grin
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« Reply #41 on: October 12, 2018, 11:58:36 AM »

Ok...Rey vs Mara Jade Grin
All depends on the writer. Are we going to Mary-Sue Rey? Tongue


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« Reply #42 on: October 12, 2018, 12:00:35 PM »

Of course.  Ren vs SK is the perfect example of how natural talent is useless without training to hone it.  Both were born with immense reserves of power...but SK had superior training.  I think we're all on the same pager about this match up.  Ok...Rey vs Mara Jade Grin

Wait!!!
Let me just get behind this blast shield before this debate starts...

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« Reply #43 on: October 12, 2018, 12:15:29 PM »

All depends on the writer. Are we going to Mary-Sue Rey? Tongue




Rey as she is presented now Tongue   Not what she should have been *Cough* Jaina *Cough*



Exar Kun vs. Darth Maul

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« Reply #44 on: October 12, 2018, 01:03:22 PM »

In the end, no matter how powerful Kylo is...he has very little experience in one on one saber combat..per out discussion about training the other day.  Saw a good example of this in the Power Rangers comic.  Tommy faced off against his Evil counterpart from another dimension (Lord Drakkon).  While Drakkon had amassed power and used it to conquer, Tommy had kept training and using his skills over his power.  When it came down to a hand to hand fight..Tommy easily won.

Iím late into the mix.  SK outclasses Kylo in every way from skill, to experience, and knowing how to control and use his powers. SK also knew how to control his emotion and use it in battle.  Kylo, well, as we can see, Kylo doesnít. He let his emotions run amok and his training isnít from someone like Vader who had Jedi and Sith training and experience. Vadernknew how to harness the Dark side and taught SK the same techniques that he uses while Kylo was trained in whatever way that Snoke taught him. 

This^. I'm one of the few people that actually like Ren, but come on, SK would mop the floor with him.

Shout outs to Snoke Hefner and Big Daddy Bane.  Grin


I have nothing against Kylo and actually like the character. I just believe that heís no match to SK in combat
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